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E143 | This Is Why You're Getting Sick...
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You power through the holidays, then January takes you out. Sound familiar? We unpack why that crash is so common and how to turn a predictable dip into a plan you can trust. From the cortisol cliff to sugar-fueled immune slowdowns, we connect the dots between December habits and January colds, flares, fatigue and even injuries that force you to sit down.
We walk through the biology in plain language: how chronic stress blunts T cells and NK cells, how blood sugar swings reduce neutrophil function, and why delayed recovery hits hardest once the rush ends. Then we rebuild from the ground up with practical steps that actually work: protein-forward meals, mineral repletion with sodium, potassium and magnesium, and smart vitamin D, zinc and vitamin C support. We talk gut integrity, simple winter remedies like brothy soups and steam, and why sauna beats cold plunges when you’re run down. Women navigating low estrogen or low protein intake get targeted advice to avoid strains when restarting workouts.
For listeners curious about advanced tools, we outline where peptides fit—and where they don’t. Thymosin alpha 1 for immune balance, BPC-157 (oral) for tissue and gut repair, and longer-term options like Sermorelin to improve sleep depth and recovery. We also explain when glutathione and NAD+ shine and why none of these replace sleep, nutrition or nervous system care. The goal isn’t perfection; it’s predictability. If you know the stress is coming, you can shore up your defenses, train smarter, and protect your immune system before it taps out.
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Welcome And January Illness Pattern
SPEAKER_00Any views, thoughts, and opinions expressed on the Rejuvenating Health podcast are solely those of the speakers and are intended as such. Please consult your trusted healthcare practitioner for medical advice. Let's go, girls. Hey ladies, welcome back to the Rejuvenating Health Podcast. I'm nurse practitioner Lindsay, and always we're here with Coach Lakin.
SPEAKER_02Hello, hello.
SPEAKER_00So we're gonna talk about something a little bit fun today. And the sickness that occurs in January, holy moly. Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if it's fun, but not fun for the people that are experiencing it. Literally, like everyone is sick right now. Um, I thought I was getting sick earlier this week, but I think I supplemented and glutathione my way out of it. But it's not like it's not random sickness, right? It's not just cold and flu season. It's not bad luck. It's not that your immune system just like suddenly sucks. If you look back, it's pretty predictable, right? It happens around the same time every year. It's pretty predictable physiology if you take a step back and look. And so we're gonna kind of dig into why it happens and maybe some ways to combat it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and and the the good thing about that, right, is like, well, it can work to your advantage or to your disadvantage, depending on how you want to look at it, just like anything else in mindset. And if I can look at patterns and recognize, okay, there I can have discernment, right? So it gives me a sense of predictability, which means that it is preventable, but I have to take actions to offset it, knowing that it's going to be right around the corner, versus accepting the doom and gloom and just saying, well, it's cold and flu season, so I'm gonna get sick, right? Yeah, then you are gonna get sick. Or you could say, well, cold and flu season are coming up. So I know if I do these things to take care of myself, then there's a portion of this that's preventable.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I feel we might be doing this a little bit late because a lot of the reason why this stuff has happened occurred six to eight weeks ago. So maybe you need to listen to this next November, but it's good information anyways. But so like a lot of what we're seeing right now with the cold, the flu, the autoimmune flares, the fatigue, the anxiety attacks are really delayed consequences of things that probably happened six to eight weeks ago. So let's like kind of dig into what I mean.
SPEAKER_02So you mean all that stressful amping up for the holiday season? Had a nice sugar down the chain.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And the crap food that you ate for eight weeks.
Cortisol’s Timeline And Immune Suppression
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So weird. Let's talk about immune system at like a high level. Your immune system is your body's way of protecting itself against disease and infection and bacteria and viruses and all that type of stuff. And it requires adequate protein and micronutrients like zinc and selenium and magnesium and stable blood sugar and sleep and a regulated nervous system. And December kind of removes all of those things, right? Yeah. We eat sugar, we're stressed out, we're like in this busy season, and we do not take care of our bodies at all.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Then we have our good old pal cortisol. And pal of 25. That affects our immune system. So, Lindsay, can you explain cortisol's role here? Because I I feel like people hear stress, right? But they don't really understand the timeline or how it has a compound effect.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I mean, cortisol is immunosuppressive by design, meaning immunosuppression means that we're suppressing your immune system. So we're kind of stopping your immune system from doing what it's supposed to be doing, right? So in short burst, cortisol can be protective, right? But when we have this like long chronic cortisol, I literally talked to this about a patient or with a patient earlier. It suppresses your T cell activity. So it reduces your natural killer cell function. And so it starts to shift immunity towards inflammation instead of defense, right? So in December, your cortisol stays elevated to keep you functional, to deal with your family functions, to deal with the stress of holidays, to deal with the busyness, to deal with the late nights and the travel and the alcohol and the emotional stress. And then in January.
SPEAKER_02Where historically cortisol was just there to be like, hey, cold is coming and we have to make sure we have enough food.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. And then in January it suddenly drops. It's like, oh, all that's over. But by then, your immune system that you've been suppressing finally just collapses. And that's why, you mean you always hear people say, I was fine all through the holidays and then I got sick. Well, yeah, because in the holidays you were just like and then now it's hitting you.
SPEAKER_02But we see this happen outside of the holidays too, right? Like you see this happen a lot, um, like for students taking finals, right? Like, and I think we've all been there. Like if you were at university, I can almost guarantee there was a time where you were like cramming, studying, getting all the things done, push, push, push, you get through all your finals, and on the other end of it, you're finally able to relax and you get sick, right? Or in career, if we have like a really big project that we're amping up for and we're pushing, pushing, pushing, and we're able to make it through fine. And then once our nervous system is able to take a step back, then we get sick, right? There's a reason for it.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you can almost look at it as like a defense mechanism in your body saying, like, hey, I need you to rest, so I'm gonna make you sick.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I've told so many clients because I've either had people, you know, have to reschedule because of being sick, or they get on and they've told me that they're sick, or injured, which is crazy. I've had I've had a good number of women that have been injured to the point of being required to rest. And I'm like, hmm, that's really interesting that I've had at least now four women that I can count since the holidays that have either broken, fractured, or sprained an ankle, knee, or um foot. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, well, if there wasn't a louder signal that said, okay, if you're not gonna rest, we're gonna make you sit down. Right. Like it's going to happen, it's gonna manifest itself at some point, whether it's a careless accident because you're not be able to think clearly because of brain fog or fatigue or whatever it is, or if you're literally just going and pushing too hard until your body can't continue to do that anymore, it can't keep up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. And like one thing that really triggers this, and this is also why if you don't take care of your body, you get sick a lot more often. But one of the most one of the most overlooked drivers of January illness is blood sugar instability. So you're eating the cookies. Our other best friend, insulin. Yeah, you're eating the cookies, you're eating the things that you know you're not like normally eating in those high glucose levels. What they do is they impair neutrophil function. So they reduce phagocytosis, which essentially what that means is your immune cell's ability to eat pathogens. So phagocytosis in your immune system eats the germs, essentially, right? Um, so it reduces that ability. Um, it increases your inflammatory cytokines, and it just makes your body a place where the pathogens or the bacteria or the viruses can come in and spread because your defense system isn't working because the blood sugar is all over the place.
Injuries, Nutrient Gaps, And Recovery
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's not just about weight gain. I know a lot of people put their emphasis there when it comes to the holidays and you know, the pressures that are there and the choices that get made during that season. And they, you know, they put a lot of emphasis on, oh, I gained, you know, what is the average, like five to 10 pounds on the average American will gain over the course of just a month between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Um, and it's not just about that, right? It's actually suppressing your immune system. And imagine, like what Lindsay was explaining, is your body's always seeking homeostasis internally. And essentially there's kind of always a battle being waged, right? Because there's always going to be environmental influences of bacteria, germs, whatever's, you know, whatever you're inhaling, whatever you're ingesting, things that we are being exposed to that are trying to cause harm to our body. And there's the good guys that are in there that are either defending or keeping things at balance, right? Because a little bit of stressor and a little bit of irritation are good for us. It's good to have that resistance, just like when we're at the gym. But essentially what we're doing is when we're plaguing our system with high cortisol and um levels of blood sugar instability, then we're eradicating a lot of our good team, right? Or our troops that are there to help to fight off all the bad. So then we get this similar to the gut, right? We get this imbalance of good and bad bacteria where it's not possible to fight the good fight. And then we have to like rest and be able to recover and sometimes, you know, seek medicinal help to be able to rebuild up those troops so that way we can maintain that homeostasis again.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And I'm not talking about like the cookie and the piece of cake that you had. I'm talking about like you didn't watch what you were eating for a good six to eight weeks and you just flew off the handle, right?
SPEAKER_01I mean, yeah, even you let the slope become slippery and you were like, oh well, we're here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. So even temporary high blood sugar reduces your immune defense for hours, right? So when you stack that day after day, week after week, you're getting that slower viral clearance and more severe symptoms and longer recovery. And this is why people not only get sick in January, but they get sicker. Like everyone I know right now that is having what I don't know what they have is like out for like seven to ten days, like fevers lasting forever.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, body aches, like feeling like just really, really fatigued, right? Like they can't continue to do the things that they were doing before. They can't push.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So the injury thing is really interesting that you brought up, right? Because injuries are not accidents, they're actually like nutrients that are being depleted during the holidays. So the reason why you're seeing so many injuries is because people are deficient in magnesium, right? Like your nutrients just kind of fall off. People fall off their supplement plans, they fall off, they're eating their fruits and vegetables, they fall off all of that, right? And so you miss some key nutrients. So, like magnesium helps with muscle relaxation and ATP production. If your muscles are like tensed up and they're not relaxing, you're gonna strain your muscles, right? Zinc is really important for tissue repair. So if you're deficient in zinc, you're not gonna heal as fast. Sodium and potassium are really important for nerve signaling and hydration. If your nerves aren't signaling and firing, you're probably not moving properly and you're gonna be at risk for injury, right? Um, protein.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, your coordination is gonna be messed up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Which, yeah. Um, protein helps with muscle connection and your immune cells. And so low magnesium, dehydration. Oh, I'm gonna start a new sudden intense exercise plan January 1st. Oh, okay. Well, now you're just really putting yourself at risk for strains and tears and a slip disk in your back and all of these things because you ate like trash, and then now you're gonna go start some crazy workout plan, and your body is like, nope, nope, nope.
SPEAKER_02Right, right. And women are especially vulnerable here, right? Especially the demographic of women that we primarily work with, because there's already a lot working against them in those same departments.
Nervous System Burnout And Immunity
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, when you lose estrogen, it affects your collagen, right? Um, that high cortisol impairs your tissue repair. The women that eat 50 grams of protein, like they're it accelerates their muscle loss. And so when you're jumping back into workouts in January, your tissues are literally not prepared to handle that type of stress, right? Yeah. And then we get into the like nervous system burnout type of stuff, which I feel like is on fire right now. People are crazy right now, it's wild out there. Um, and this is where functional medicine can really shine. So uh your immune system is like directly tied to your nervous system health. Like if you're in chronic fight or flight, you're gonna suppress your digestion, you're not gonna absorb your nutrients, you're gonna reduce your immune surveillance. Like you literally cannot rest and digest. So you can't repair anything, you can't produce antibodies, you are gonna have leaky gut, like you're gonna have all kinds of issues.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And we talked about this a little bit on a previous episode where we were reviewing like goals and New Year's resolutions and talking about the idea that it's actually more beneficial to take things off of your plate rather than try to assume that your capacity is just gonna increase and you can add all these new things onto your plate to get the goals that you're going for. But if you are constantly overstimulated, like if your notifications are going off, because guess what? It's a new year. So new projects are on the docket and we're seeking out, you know, everything for Q1 of the new year and go, go, go, and we have all these deadlines and we're probably ingesting more caffeine, right? Like if you're upregulated all the time, then your immune system actually never gets the chance to turn on because you're not going into that parasympathetic response.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, this is what I said. This is your body actually making you stop and rest. It it's your it's that moment that your body is forcing parasympathetic parasympathetic activation. Like it is forcing you to slow the heck down. So we talked about why it happens. How do you help it? Maybe not this year.
SPEAKER_02It's gonna be super surprising.
Food, Minerals, And Winter Remedies
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, I bet you don't know what we're gonna say, right? Uh, we should eat protein because it helps with your immune cells and your antibodies and your cytokines and your white blood cell counts and your low protein equals a weak immune response. So when you are sick, I know you don't want to eat protein, but like maybe drink some bone broth. Like that protein is gonna help you a lot. Like, don't go towards the carbs, right? Like try to get some nutrients in your body. Try to get some sodium in for cellular hydration, adrenal function, blood volume. Try to get some magnesium in for ATP production and muscle recovery. Like, this is why brothy soups and mineral-rich foods are like the hype in the winter because you need those things to help repair your body.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, there's, you know, other things too that can help like naturally boost. Like, I do a lot of fermented foods. I do like a fermented garlic honey that helps boost the immune system. Making sure like your gut integrity is high is gonna be the number one thing that you can do to help boost your immune system. Um, especially if we're talking about like ingesting anything. So just keeping tabs on that turmeric is really good, but there's there's a lot of options. It's just not reaching for the quote unquote like historical comfort foods that you think are making you feel better, but they're not actually making you feel better. Yeah. I mean, one of my world did like uh saltine crackers and ginger ale actually help anyone. I don't know why that's a thing. If you're maybe if you're like so stomach sick that you can't keep anything else down, but still I I would opt for like pediature and um or some salt and a banana.
SPEAKER_00My favorite thing to do when I'm sick is get in the sauna. Like the big thing of electrolytes, get in the sauna and just sweat it out, like yeah, sweat detox out those toxins. I mean, you definitely have to make sure that you hydrate because you're sick and dehydrated, but if you have a sauna and you can get in there and just like don't be cold plunging, right? Like it's probably the worst thing you could do if you were sick, but a good sauna session like is super good for you.
SPEAKER_02You can also if you don't have access to a sauna or if you don't want to go to a public sauna if you are sick, right? Like nothing beats like a good old-fashioned remedy of just taking, like, if you have an electric kettle or you just boil water on the stove and put it in a bowl, put VIX in it in the hot water, and then put your face over it with a towel draped over your head and just like let the steam get into your system. Do that, sit there for like 10 minutes longer if you got it, and that will definitely do something for you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. And then there's always supplementation that you can add in those winter months, right? I everyone needs to be on vitamin D. I like every person that I talk to is vitamin D deficient. It's ridiculous. But vitamin D is a hormone, but it also like it modulates your immune response, it reduces excess inflammation, it improves your viral defense. Like the lower your vitamin D is, the higher risk of infection. My kids are in wrestling, and ringworm is disgusting and it's legit in wrestling kids. And I'm like forcing immunity gummies down my kids' throat. Like, you need vitamin D and zinc and all this stuff so you don't get ringworm because yeah, ringworm is nasty. But it's like a thing, and I'm like, okay, I gotta boost your immune systems up because you just ate a bunch of crap over Christmas and now you're getting ringworm from wrestling.
Smart Supplementation And Dosing
SPEAKER_02Now you're getting all sweaty on the S mat.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Like vitamin D matters, zinc matters, um, magnesium matters, vitamin C matters, and all of these things are things that you can take all year round because guess what? These things also support your thyroid function and your ability to sleep, and like they're just good supplements to take.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And like that's because that's what I was gonna say. Across the board, it's like it's definitely not gonna hurt you to take these year-round. If anything, um, potentially, if you do take them year-round, thinking about increasing the dose during the colder months, right? So I know like I always double my dose of vitamin D and magnesium during the winter months just because I'm I'm often low on those anyway, and I'm not gonna be outside, things are gonna be different around the winter months. Um, not gonna get as much sun exposure, and I have a hard time converting anyway. So it's like being um, just being attuned to that, and that's where like labs can really help to come in, like if you get them done at different seasons to see how your body's responding. But none of the, and again, supplements, like we always say, are just that they are supplemental, right? Supplements do not replace healthy habits, they are not gonna offset the other things that we mentioned as far as nutrition and um taking care of yourself, and they most certainly are not going to override sleep deprivation, and that's a huge one that we see as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so the next topic we're gonna talk about is like sprinkles on top, right? We're gonna talk about like how peptides can help with being sick. You cannot add peptides in until you add the supplements in, and you can't add the supplements in until you add the lifestyle stuff in. Like, yeah. You gotta do all that stuff.
SPEAKER_02There's levels, it's a progression.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and there's a ton of hype about peptides out there. Like literally they're everywhere, right? And not everything that people talk about is actually available or legal or Appropriate. So I'm going to talk about the stuff that is legal and appropriate and supported by science, right? So one peptide is um biomycin alpha one. So it's probably the most relevant one for sickness. And what it does is it enhances that T cell deferation and maturation. So it improves your immune system regulation. Like it doesn't overstimulate it, but it helps shift that immune system from that inflammatory chaos to more of like an organized defense, right?
SPEAKER_02It's like getting your troops in line.
Peptides: What Helps And What Doesn’t
SPEAKER_00It's like about balancing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so it can be really helpful if you're having recurrent affections or you have some like post-viral fatigue, or for people that like catch everything and don't recover very well from illness, but it works best for those people who are eating protein and sleeping and depleting repleting nutrients. Right. And I have not tried this one. That's not, I've I've not messed with it, but I do know that it is it's a it's a good one, right? Um BPC 157, you can get it orally, you cannot get it injectably legally. Do not be buying BPC off of someone because then you're getting a research peptide and you shouldn't be buying a research peptide unless you get a certificate. That's a whole nother rabbit hole to go down. But BPC, if you get it legitly, can really help with the injury aspect that we were talking about. Not the sickness, but the tendon, ligament, muscle, gut health repair.
SPEAKER_02Like so I was gonna say the only thing that would be like tangential to the sickness would be like if you're having gut imbalance, right? And you need to improve the integrity of your gut barrier.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, especially after like the alcohol and the stress and the holiday eating and stuff like that, right? So BPC is really good for some gut health and the like joint pain and injuries and kind of stuff like that, right? The next two are the ones that I do like and I do. Well, you've done BPC.
SPEAKER_02Like we we both also have experience of BPC 157.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've used it. I love it for injuries. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've not used it really for gut stuff, but I have used it for injuries and it works like a charm. But you have to make sure you're getting it somewhere legit. So that's like the caveat to that. You're not just buying it off the black market because you could literally be injecting water and spending hundreds of dollars on it and not and not know, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you want to make sure it's through a vetted source, but you also have to make sure that you're doing the other things right. Like BPC 157 is not meant to treat injuries where we're overtraining or we're not or under sleeping or we're under-eating or essentially under-recovering, right? I'm not using it to like push through something that's a signal that my body is telling me that I need to redirect or I need to recover better. It's not intended for that purpose because you're just gonna, it's it's not gonna do what it needs to do and you're gonna be wasting money.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. The next two I really like though. So Cermaralin, we don't normally think about it in an immune system. We normally think about it um for like muscle enhancement and growth, but mechanicalistically, it does stimulate exogenous or endogenous growth hormone release. And what that does is supports tissue repair, sweep, sleep quality, and recovery. So I like it for like muscle growth and body composition changes, but if you're feeling wrecked after the holidays and you're getting poor sleep, that means you're getting poor immune recovery and delayed healing. So that's where that can help. It's not really gonna help short term, like boost your immune system, but it's gonna help you get in that deeper sleep and help you just recover a little bit better.
SPEAKER_02So it's more of like Yeah, and also this is like, like you said, this is a long-term um peptide, right? Like this is something that you would be supplementing for months.
Action Plan, Mindset, And Prevention
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like BPC is a three to six months.
SPEAKER_02Before you see anything.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Surmeralin, you do three to six months on one month off, and you like you're not gonna get immediate leaf from it. Now, glutathione on the other hand is one that I really like when I'm sick, or if I'm gonna travel or something like that, it's like a really good antioxidant support, and antioxidants can really help you fight off sickness. So if I'm gonna travel, I'm injecting glutathione. If I'm like the other day I was feeling sick, I'm like injecting glutathione to try to get to try to help with that. I do NAD plus too, just because like you can take glutathione orally.
SPEAKER_02Well, you can take both of those orally, right? So it's like, can you explain to people what would what would be the difference between taking an NAD, either an NAD precursor or an NAD plus supplement and like a glutathione oral supplement versus the injectable?
SPEAKER_00I mean, anytime you inject something, you know you're legit getting it to your tissues, right? A lot of people have messed up guts and they're not actually absorbing what they're taking. So you know whenever you're taking stuff and it has to go through your GI system, you never really know how much dosage of it you're getting. Where if you're injecting it, you're getting a big surge of it and and it so I would say like orally is more like maintenance. Like when you inject, it's like, ooh, I'm giving myself a big boost of it here. So yeah. So let's talk about what peptides don't do. They don't replace your sleep. Everything we don't talk about, everything else, everything that GLP1s don't do, right? They don't replace your sleep, they don't replace your under-eating, they don't protect you from burnout, they don't override poor training decisions. Peptides are signals, right? And if your body doesn't have the amino acids and the minerals and the energy and the rest, there's not gonna be anything to respond to. Like they're gonna be signaling the air.
SPEAKER_02So you just flushing that money down the toilet, essentially.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that's literally actually.
SPEAKER_00But that is why a whole nother topic, why GLPs don't work for some people. GLPs are a signaling hormone, right? If you don't have anything to signal, then they're not gonna work for you. Which is a whole nother rabbit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like if the system is not set up to be able to receive the signal, then it you can throw that shit against a wall all day. It's not gonna make a difference.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So they always sit on top of protein and blood sugar stability and sleep restoration and nervous system regulation, right?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02So it's all data at the end of the day, right? It's like, what's predictable? What do we know is upcoming? What do we know if if we're willing to take a look in the mirror and have that self-reflection of like, what are we doing now? What could we improve? What are we struggling with? Right? It's all just data points.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And this is like, I hear so many people like, I don't want to start on a new health journey because I'm going through this stressful event. And I'm like, woman, this is the time that you need to be starting on something because you're just setting yourself up for not good stuff if you don't do something now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And so you have to like be intentional about what you're trying to do and where you want to go. And again, be honest with yourself about what your capacity is and what you're able to add to your plate and what you are able to remove and what you're able to, how you're able to show up for yourself.
Share, Reviews, And Closing
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. And if you understand your biology and how this stuff works, it can be more empowering than frustrating, right? It like a lot of what's happening is your body saying slow down and repair and repeat and regulate it, right? So if you're someone who gets sick after the holidays every single year, you now know why. And it can be predictable and you can support, support it, right? So if this episode helped you understand your body better, share it with someone who you think might need to hear it, right? Um, or someone that's maybe going through a burnt out period of life. Yeah. Um, just to help help them understand what's going on.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and be like, you know, I'm sharing this with love. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to kick you when you're down. It's just like, hey, this is valuable information because again, we can prevent this from happening in the future if we're reflecting on where we've been. So respect the science, be open to change.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. So share, give us a five-star review. We appreciate it, and we will catch you next week. Bye, ladies.
SPEAKER_02Bye.