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Body Battles to Sustainable Success with Rebecca Hourston

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Imagine standing on the scale after nearly two years of consistent effort and seeing exactly the number you'd been hoping for—10 kilos lighter than when you began. Now imagine the even greater victory: no longer being terrified of that morning weigh-in ritual.

This candid conversation takes us through one woman's journey from reluctant health-seeker to confident self-coach. As a self-proclaimed "anti-diet person" who had tried dieting for exactly "one day" in her entire life, she shares how finding the right approach transformed not just her body but her entire relationship with health.

Living in a household of tall, naturally lean males who could devour "five fried eggs and 20 rashers of bacon" for breakfast posed unique challenges. How could she make meaningful changes without becoming "that person" eating separate meals or following rigid rules that separated her from family life? The answer came through personalization, patience, and perhaps most importantly—time.

"We're scared of things that take time," she reflects, "and yet actually the time will pass. I mean, that's all we got." This profound realization underpins her entire journey—that sustainable transformation doesn't happen in weeks or months but unfolds gradually over years of consistent effort.

Among her most powerful tools: a daily practice of writing down what she's proud of, which literally "rewires your brain to look for the wins." This simple habit, alongside finding her own path through tracking and measurement methods that worked for her personality, created lasting change where previous attempts had failed.

Whether you're considering making changes to your health, feeling stuck in your current approach, or wondering if lasting transformation is even possible, this conversation offers both practical wisdom and emotional reassurance. Listen in and discover how sustainable health isn't about perfection—it's about finding what works for you and giving it the gift of time.

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Speaker 1:

I would like to take you back, if you can remember, I'd like to take you back to way before you knew anything about Feed my Health and tell us what was going on for you with your health at that point your health and your fitness.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's always been for me this kind of voice in the back of my head that just is bothersome. So there was this sense of creep, I guess, in terms of not just my weight on the scales but just that sense of the years going by and amazing things happening, having kids and you know, running around and doing all sorts, but just sort of I don't know almost like trying not to think about my body whilst at the same time very much thinking about my body and just feeling in this. You know, I've always been this total anti-diet person. Like I can't, I I've. I'm. I'm 52 now and I can honestly tell you that I think I went on a diet for one day. I was trying to think about this.

Speaker 2:

I went on a diet for a day when I was about 18 and I remember I was, I was being an au pair in Paris and I was in this house with this French-Italian family and so, as you can imagine, there was lots of yummy food and it was the first time I'd lived away from home properly like that, because it was just before I went off to uni and anyway, we kind of got partway through the year and I was like crap. You know this is help, what's happening. And so I remember I tried to go on a diet. I decided, right, I'm going to start tomorrow, I'm going to eat spinach or something, and obviously, not surprisingly, it lasted for, like I mean, literally I could not keep that up for more than a day, so it was. And then I just thought, right, I'm never doing diet.

Speaker 2:

So I'm kind of always I've always been sporty. I've always been, you know, doing lots. I've always been, you know, doing lots. I've always enjoyed. For me, exercise is not, has not got a heaviness to it, no pun intended. It's something that's generally enjoyable. So that side of the equation, fine. It's the food. You know a foodie, love food, and I also kind of come from this backdrop of having been sporty I mean not like top sporty at all, just like your average person kind of sporty doing stuff. I kind of had this stuck mentality still of, oh, I'm a rower, like I used to a bit of rowing at university. But here I am at 50 something at the time, and I'm right. No, actually I stopped rowing like literally 30 years ago. But my brain is still saying I'm a rower, I can eat whatever I want. Look at this big mound of pasta. Look at me. So this kind of yeah anyway, stuck in this mentality and just therefore feeling increasingly like it's not badly wrong.

Speaker 1:

It was never badly wrong, but it's wrong enough in terms of the feeling that I have in me yeah, so do you feel like from that that maybe it was more to do with this identity of yourself that you'd got that? Maybe then you felt disconnected from?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I think so, although actually interestingly and brilliantly, since being with with you on this program which I have been now, for I think it's it's a year and a half, it's like a bit over a year and a half.

Speaker 2:

I think it's kind of coming towards two.

Speaker 2:

It's like a bit over a year and a half, I think it's kind of coming towards two years. And I'm sort of at this point now where it's so lovely to speak to you because I mean, apart from being lovely anyway, but it's also I've now decided to bring to a close my time on the programme because, working with the amazing Alicia of whom I will say more, I'm sure, but it just feels like do you know what I've? I've got the tools and I've got to trust myself now, so that's sort of the point that I've got to, but it has been this really long arc of time and that's been really, really, really, really, really important. The time factor, yes and I think we don't actually give that enough credit often is that there's all these things that you know intellectually, you need to learn and discover and realize about your body and yourself, and you know all the stuff to go and do like we'll move and eat in this way and you know, choose, make all these choices, but actually then got over all of that.

Speaker 2:

You've just got to apply the layer of time absolutely um, it's a bit like the, you know, I think they say for like I think they talk about often with professional musicians or sports people or something. You know the 10,000 hours rule, like you've got to do 10,000 hours and it'll just be really great and something mastery. And I don't think I've done 10 000 hours on this, but it's like I don't know. I haven't added them up, but it you just got to put time to it yeah, because with that time comes the shift that actually needs to happen.

Speaker 1:

So it's not about yeah, it's not about kind of creating these new habits and routines as such, but it's actually about you embodying them as a person. Yeah, totally, totally like back in your that day when you ate spinach. You know you didn't identify as a person that ate just spinach, you know no definitely not. It didn't align with your values no, no exactly so when did you first find out about feed my health?

Speaker 2:

I was on this brilliant. It was actually a women's well, kind of yoga but more than yoga retreat run by an amazing woman called Dori Walker. And there was this other woman there called Sue, and Sue and I got chatting and so this retreat and I mention it because it was called Alchemy it just happened that the woman who was running it had called this retreat Alchemy. And so actually, when I knew I was going to be chatting to you, I was sort of thinking about you know, really thinking about these last couple of years, and it's like there is this kind of I don't even really know what alchemy is, by the way, and it's like there is this kind of I don't even really know what alchemy is, by the way, but it's this sort of idea, I suppose, that things transform. And the whole concept of that was that retreat was well, what do you want to transform in your life?

Speaker 2:

And anyway, I was chatting to Sue and we were all talking about the sort of more quote unquote more worthy things. You know, the things that you might be wanting to do in your work and in changing the world, and you know all of these things. And actually I found myself chatting to and say you know, actually the thing that one of the things, a big thing really, that I keep coming back to, that keeps just bugging me every single morning. I wake up and roll over and feel my tummy just being a bit more rolly than I want it to be, let's say, is it's so boring? It's so boring, so boring every single morning and every single moment, and every, not every moment. Actually it wasn't quite that much for me, but yeah anyway, and Sue said I know just the person you should speak to and it went from there fantastic.

Speaker 2:

I love that and actually Sue was, so yeah.

Speaker 1:

Sue was referred from another good friend who's on the program still as well, so that's really nice. It's like a little snowball effect, oh yeah, that's brilliant.

Speaker 2:

Well, and then I've referred somebody to you as well. So it's like I do feel like that doesn't happen by chance and it's know, I think when you're looking at these things and you're you're sort of I mean, frankly, at that point I mean you're feeling desperate. I mean I was feeling quite desperate. I was feeling like I, I feel like I, at a head level, I know the stuff I should be doing.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's really not rocket science, is it? Eat less, exercise more off, you go, lovely, except then it turns out, no, there is actually quite a bit more to it and most of all, it's that it's not just that, it's that it's it's it's doing it and sticking to it and making it. This you know you talk so much about making a lifestyle, or you know, just literally a way of life, a way of living, and that's the bit for me that's made, honestly, the biggest difference. And I really, I really I knew when I joined you that I, I wanted to, I wanted to sign up, for I think I signed up for a year when I joined it was a year, wasn't?

Speaker 2:

it was it was six months or a year did I sign for six months.

Speaker 1:

I think I did sign, you didn't? I remember now, because this leads me on beautifully to my next question. So you actually signed up for a month, yeah. So there was obviously an element of like, oh, I'm not sure how this is going to go. So then you were in the program for maybe like a couple of weeks and then you were like I cannot sign up for a year. Now I remember yeah so what was that reluctance? What were you thinking in your head?

Speaker 2:

well, you know it's a lot of money isn't it?

Speaker 1:

I mean, you are investing in yourself.

Speaker 2:

And I think in a way, we don't talk about that. I think, as women especially, you know we're happy. Well, we're maybe not happy, happy, but we'll be more likely to spend money on other people. And then also, this is I don't know it's. I think at that point point, foolishly really, you think, well, I'm not, I'm not buying something tangible. You think like I'm not going, I'm renovating the house at the moment. You know I'm not buying a sofa for this money, no, I'm not going to sit on it and look at it.

Speaker 2:

But so you have this moment of of partly you know the value of something, and then, and then you go through the whole thing of, okay, well, I should be able to do that by myself, which is ironic, especially for me. It's particularly ironic because I am actually a coach. I'm a executive and leadership coach and I work with people as their coach. So I totally know and I totally get and I've worked with lots of coaches over the years, not on my nutrition, but yeah, I get the accountability thing and yet somehow the I don't know. It's like I hadn't really allowed myself. Well, that's not strictly true because I have. I mean, I can share a bit if you want. But I've had a few forays into other things before, but I think, yeah, it was that sort of investing in yourself caused me to slightly hesitate.

Speaker 2:

And then the other thing was you know, it's really hard to know what's in the program and I'm quite a details person. I like to know, well, what am I going to be actually having to do? And do I like that way of doing it? And does it sit with me? And I know we talked about my nemesis, tracking. We talked about that and we'd laughed about it and I'd said, oh, do I really have to write down every teaspoon of, you know, whatever that I eat, to which you'd, of course, sensibly said, well, no, you'd have to write down every teaspoon of what you eat. But you know, there is a period where it's really useful to do the full tracking and I did do that for a period and it was really, it was insightful and it was been really for me.

Speaker 2:

It's been good to find some other ways through that, but that's, that is a way and it's quite. It could be quite a core way to the feed, my health way of doing things, but it actually doesn't have to be, and that is one of the things I've been so grateful to, to you and to to Alicia for is that there's been this openness to to work with. So it's not just this is our way, this is our program, this is the method and this is what we do and this is what you must do. It's that I remember clearly, alicia saying to me once who was my coach you know you've got to meet me, you know, let's, let's meet each other halfway, bex. No, so we don't need to fully do that, but just just like let's meet halfway. Can you think you might be able to do a bit of this?

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, tracking, tracking meals, like, really like, calorie counting, essentially, what is it? What is going on my plate for me is something that I I do kick and scream at and for me, long term, was never going to be something that I wanted to be doing regularly. For others and I've listened to some of the podcasts and it's actually really lovely hearing that for some people it is just a brilliant method and it's the thing that kind of snaps you in place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that flex I loved and then, yeah, so I guess, I guess it's just was a sense of, I think, really what I knew, roz, is that I was never going to be the person who wanted to buy three months or six months.

Speaker 2:

It was either. This is going to work for me and if so, I've got to commit to it, because I've done other things. I've done a six-week raw food thing and I've done a, you know, go and see a kinesiologist, nutritionist person, for but that was probably the longest previous one. That was probably for about nine, 10 months, and then COVID happened and that stopped and I just I just got to where I wanted to be and then it just sort of all fell away. So I knew that that longevity piece was what was missing for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and that's really the key ethos I would say behind Feed my Health is that like going back to the tracking thing, I would never, ever want anybody to feel that they came to Feed my Health and they had to track forever, like that's not for me, that's not a goal, but the education that you get around, that is, is stuff that you can never unlearn, like I always.

Speaker 1:

I always joke that I can completely free pour 150 mils of red wine into a glass like bang on, because I've done it so frequently and it's and it's the same when you look at your food when you go to a restaurant and you know it's that kind of ingrained knowledge that you get from it. That that's why it's so, and for me, like for you tracking, you go kicking and screaming.

Speaker 1:

For me it's exercise. I do exercise because it's a means to an end. It's not like I like the goal, I like how I feel, I like how I look.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't love doing it yeah, whereas I love doing that bit like I actually do. I mean, okay, I don't love running, for instance, I will functionally go for a run once a week because it gets the job done, but my other movement that I do is all stuff that I actually really enjoy doing. So I'm like for me, that bit, that bit. So the point is that it's not a one-size. It really really has felt true that this is not a one-size-fits-all yeah, and I think, whether you're doing this program specifically or you're, you know, you're trying to look after your health by yourself. I think it's. It is really really you can't just look at what your friend's doing or what you know. Even you know, even frankly, what Roz is saying she's doing. Yeah, because that might not be your thing.

Speaker 1:

I agree, I 100% agree, and I think that's where a lot of people do go wrong is they want to feel like they're part of some kind of a not like a cult as such, but people do like to have rules and they feel like if they're following rules then they're doing it all right. But I think that that kind of leads to a little bit of all or nothing mentality, and I really, really don't like. Especially on social media, there's a lot of influencers who will put things like here's what I eat in a day and these are the calories and I just think, oh, you know that's yeah, I don't know what kind of a message that that is sending out.

Speaker 1:

Really, I don't fully back that. But you're so right is it isn't a one-size-fits-all, and I think if anybody could know that about feed my health, that would be one of probably the key things to know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What have been, would you say, your biggest wins?

Speaker 2:

Well, you know what I came to you and I know I had in my head, I had in my head 10, as in it's only 10. It's only 10 kilos. So I work in kilos partly, but I was thinking partly because I'm oh, I'm very you know, that's what people do these days, they work in metric and I was like, partly that, but really honestly it's because it sounds I don't know, it just sounds like, oh, it's only 10 kilos. And then I was reading yesterday of something about the Lionesses trophy that they've just won with the football and somebody was saying, yeah, in fact one of the players was saying, yeah, it's really heavy that trophy, it's a good 10 kilos. And so I think the biggest thing that I've got is that for me it was only ever 10 kilos and I'm proud to say that literally, as I speak to you today versus literally I went back and I looked at literally the very first time I stood on those scales, which obviously that first time of getting into the habit of standing on the scales is horrible and you don't particularly want to, but it's definitely been a really like.

Speaker 2:

It's just, oh, the habit of standing on the scales is horrible and you don't particularly want to, but it's definitely been a really like. It's just oh, I just stand on the scales and sometimes I like what it says and sometimes I'm not so keen on what it says, but it's, I like it. That is the demon is broken. But from that moment when I first logged a weight for Feed my Health to literally this morning, that's 10 kilos difference and by the way it changes and I'm still like I'm I've still got my struggles around that the fact that it, my weight, definitely tips up and down like literally by two. It was two kilos more a couple of days ago when I stood on the scale. It fluctuates by quite a lot, my scale weight, but I'm I'm less freaked out by that now and I feel more able to know what to do to bring it to where I want it to be. Yeah, so you know, bottom line is I wanted to lose some weight and I have achieved that.

Speaker 2:

But I think, as I know so many others have said, it's way more than that and it really is. I think, as I know so many others have said, it's way more than that and it really is. I think you know the, the, the habit that I'm finding the most, the most helpful at the moment. Well, there's some practical ones which I can talk about in a sec, but the probably the biggest, most life-changing, really habit is what are you proud of? And so I'm in this habit now, and Alicia has really kind of coaxed me there and now, because I'm about to move away from the confines, the kind of structure of the program which I'm still slightly like I'm.

Speaker 2:

I've got some apprehension about that because there's still that okay, and can I do this but this? But I'm more and more so I've been, over the last month or so, I've been building up what are my equivalent of some of the systems and the trackings and what's going to work for me. So I now have got a note on my phone and I write down every day what I've been proud of and it just over time, it really does rewire your brain to look for the wins and the good at, and then you feel pleased with yourself and then yeah, and then you do. I mean, I've always been a bit of a labrador, anyway, you know, give me a pat and I'm. Oh yeah, you know what can I do? What's more, um, but it's, it is crazy. You know, you can, yeah, that you can, you can do that. So I think that is one of my probably my most precious thing to hold on to is what am I doing well? What have I done right? What am I proud of?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I love that because that is one of the most challenging things for women to do for themselves, and that's why I'm so like. I encourage it every week for people to share what's going well, because it's not for my benefit, it's for their benefit, because the more you can recognize what you're doing. Well, what you've showed up for yourself doing, even if it's on a very small scale, the more you grow your self esteem, and that's the most important thing above and beyond anything, yeah, so I love that.

Speaker 2:

I think that's something that I really hope you continue to do yeah, I really I want to and I commit to, and actually part of my thing and coming and doing this now in chatting to you was, do you know what? That's an accountability for me as well, because I'll, I can listen back to this as well and I am saying now I will, I commit to continuing to doing that because it feels like and I certainly, for the time being, commit to physically writing it down. I mean, in time I might evolve and I might not physically write it down, but yeah, it's the writing it down as well. And then you go, oh, and you know what I should have taken to at the end of the day, at the end of each week, I'll copy it all, because I do it like in a chunk and then I just stick it into AI yeah and I say could you summarize for me please what I've done this week to be proud of?

Speaker 2:

and it kind of spews this back and you're like bloody hell. I think I'm amazing, it's great it's really good.

Speaker 1:

Do you know?

Speaker 2:

actually, I think you did that recently on a check-in yes, I did, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, oh gosh, yeah, very she's very precise with her writing. I know it's like wow, she's taking so much time, uh-uh. No, she enlisted the help of a little friend, but you know still, but it's but joking aside. It's like how do I make that sustainable? Because I'm not going to sit there and write, you know, journal three paragraphs of my reflections on myself. I just know I'm not.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You have to find what works for you, right.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and just on the Proud of thing, I know I mean it makes me think of the community at Feed my Health and you do post that every week week and I've every week been incredibly terrible at not ever posting anything because I just I just decided quite early on the community part of it has actually felt really important in as much as you feel like you're walking alongside lots of other people and you see some of those people stay around, you know, and their names and stories become more familiar, and then others you know as kind of a bit more in the background, probably like me, and I decided early on I give myself permission to to not feel like I've got to, you know, be fully like, give loads to this community.

Speaker 2:

And I guess one thing I want to say is to the people who are currently in the female health community is that it's been so fantastic actually seeing everybody and even though I've not been that person who's been commenting loads and writing loads and sharing, I haven't shared that much of myself and sometimes I felt a bit bad for that.

Speaker 2:

But I guess you know you've got to make your choices as to where you put your, your energy and your time and for me I've had, I've had a huge amount from from watching and kind of being with everybody, and it is incredibly supportive, like I mean I was going to say there's never a bitchy comment, but it's so utterly opposite from that. But to even even kind of have that thought in your mind, that it could possibly be the case, is just I don't know. It's so. It's a lovely group of people that you're walking, there's a sense of walking alongside others and that you can you know what, you could put your arms around them and chat to them loads if you want to, or you could just have a sense of do you know what?

Speaker 1:

I'm quietly going for a walk and I know there's other people around and that makes me feel nice yeah, I love that and that's, honestly, for me, a massive piece of it, because, I mean, I've always said this, I've always been very open about the fact that, you know, growing up and being in school, I was never around a community of women like that. It was the complete polar opposite. We were always in competition with one another and it creates this ingrained thought pattern that this is what, this is what's normal. You know, it's not normal to actually celebrate another woman or or walk alongside them, like you say, and I'll be damned if I let in a bad egg.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, well, good for you, whatever you do, keep doing. I mean, I'm a women's leadership coach, so that's my, my professional yeah, thing as well, bringing groups of women together, and it's true, you know, it's so powerful. I mean there's, there's, there's some men in the program now and it's been. You know, it doesn't doesn't have to just be about women, of course, but it's.

Speaker 1:

I think, yeah, what, what you do and what you bring definitely, I think, speaks to us pretty loudly as women that's lovely and actually one thing that might be interesting to share is that one of the chaps who's in the program actually sent me this massive long message and he said like it's so interesting reading everything that's going on in their worlds because it's exactly what's going on in their worlds, because it's exactly what's going on in mine, and I don't think that a lot of women would realize that.

Speaker 1:

But I have all the same hang-ups that all of these women have struggled with in terms of how they feel about themselves on holiday and the clothing choices that they choose. And we are very similar beings and I just I don't feel that we give we give each other enough credit for how similar we are and I think we are stronger when we are together. And that sounds very like cliche, but it is. It is a reality.

Speaker 2:

But it's a real, it's a, it's a, it's very much the reality to me. The stronger together thing I think that you know the men thing for me, how that shows up and how it's shown up for me and through this program is I live in a house. I live in a male house. You know, I've got six foot three husband and a six foot five 16 year old and a six foot 19 year old and a 13 year old boy as well, and so I'm like this has been one of my things which I, you know weirdly, actually it's not even I've not mentioned it in this conversation so far, because it's like it's there in front of my nose. You know, my son, my the six foot five one, he casually, for breakfast yesterday, had five fried eggs and 20 rashers of bacon wow, I kid you not. Oh, and some toasted muffins alongside, naturally as well. Oh, and then had an enormous pizza for lunch as well.

Speaker 2:

For me, that kind of living in a house where there is food and people consuming it who are all, like you know, tall rakes, it's been. That's that's why your approach really resonated, because I'm not, I cannot be, and, apart from that, I have no interest in being that person who goes on. You know, here's my little. You know I eat only these things from the fridge. It's like it's got to integrate with my family yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to be that person who's sitting there eating entirely different meals all the time. I've actually got much better now eating different bits in the same kind of theme.

Speaker 1:

Um, but yeah, that was incredible, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you then, yeah, that that element of it was incredibly important for me, because that was the reality for me when I thought that that's what I needed to do to lose weight. I would really go to town on buying, you know, even pre-packaged salad bowls that were bland as anything, because I thought if it's there and it's already made for me, I'll be more inclined to eat it.

Speaker 1:

Well, not really when they're sitting there eating your equivalent of kryptonite and you've got this limp lettuce leaf to eat. So whatever was going to happen with female health had to be family orientated. Yeah, really, really important in terms of. Obviously, you've answered so many of my questions that I've that I've jotted down as you've been speaking, which is what would you say to somebody who was potentially thinking about joining Feed my Health or was feeling like I need to make a change, but I don't know what that change needs to look like. I don't know if I believe in myself enough to be able to make a change. What would you say to that person?

Speaker 2:

What would you say to that person? I mean, I would say, if they've come as far as Feed my Health coming onto their radar, then, whilst it's definitely not going to be the programme for everybody I mean I really don't think it is the programme for everybody because I think you do need to be prepared to put I'm going to say, put an effort into it. It's so supported. And so what would I say? I'd say trust that there is support waiting for you just around the corner that you can't even see. And I'd also say around the corner that you can't even see. And I'd also say, I know it's really tempting to feel like you've got to do it by yourself, but you don't. And I'd also say, because there's a financial piece, you know, I'd say, yeah, it does cost some money, but I'd say that and I'm not just saying this to puff smoke up you know, whatever, you know, it's truly, truly exceeded my expectations. This program, you know, I thought oh, you kind of even that word program isn't, I don't know. You have preconceptions about what that means. It's like oh, I said this earlier like there's a method and we're going to do this, and it's even.

Speaker 2:

When you mentioned coach, I mean, I did noom briefly and I didn't, I just didn't, I wasn't interested enough. Frankly, I just literally wasn't. I'm just not science, science, the science of it doesn't fascinate me enough to be kind of gripped by it. But you know, on Noom you get a coach. Oh, no, you don't. You have somebody who writes you some messages in a group of about 40 people once every so often. It's not in the way that you have here.

Speaker 2:

You know, this is a real live, human person, human person. Of course you're human. You know what I mean a human being, yes, a human whatever, yeah, but and and it's, it's small enough, like you're a team, you're like, you're real people, you're totally genuine. Your podcasts, roz, are amazing and I also would say look, you know, if, if somebody, if that person is thinking, thinking, you know, I just really can't do this right now, like it's not something that I can invest in right now, I would say don't lose heart, you know, there's still things you can do, just even just listening to your podcasts, brilliant resource. And do you know what? In time in time, maybe, maybe that person would feel that they could come and and have a go at this. But I also would say you know, don't come and do this expecting it to be done and dusted in like two months or something. It's back to this time thing. I think we're scared of things that take time and yet actually the time will pass.

Speaker 1:

I mean, that's all we got.

Speaker 2:

It's all we got, really, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, that's life, because life is time, yes, and we hope it's time, yeah, but but then it's that it's kind of back. I think one of the things I've really been, I still I don't think I've concluded on it properly, but is time the links to well, when is it enough? You know, when have you done enough? And I that's definitely where I'm at now is, and I've had some conversations about that with with Alicia, my coach, and I don't know. I mean, I honestly picked a number that I wanted to be from a scale, weight point of view, which had a lot to do with being I didn't say that earlier A big driver for me was I hate being in the overweight statistic on BMI, and I know BMI is I don't know, people have their different views on it and is it a good metric or not.

Speaker 2:

But I just had this thing of like I'm in the overweight category and you know how they say oh, x percent of the British population is overweight or obese. I'm like I'm in that statistic. I don't want to be in that statistic. And now I'm just not, but not by very much. I mean I'm very top end of my BMI. I'm five foot eight. I'm like 101 meters 74. So I've got height as to sort of spread it around. But yeah, I wanted to, I wanted to to kind of to bring that down. But it definitely is a question of you know, when is it enough? Should I go for more? Who's what's the magic number? What should that actually be?

Speaker 1:

yeah, and I I mean everybody's very, very different, and that's why one of the questions I always get asked very frequently is oh, how long will it take me to X?

Speaker 1:

And I just think that mindset is you're already limiting yourself by the beliefs that you're holding around time.

Speaker 1:

But I also know as well that a lot of women can achieve a lot more than they think that they can, and I I feel that if a woman is open to it and I share you know, actually I feel that you could achieve x, y and z they're actually usually quite thrilled because in their mind they're hoping for this specific goal or this specific outfit that they've created. In their mind. Maybe it, maybe for you it was the 10 number, for other women it's like, oh, a dress size or whatever. But it's their belief in themselves that they could, they could actually achieve more. And sometimes you know, like when you're a parent, a lot of your parenting is showing your kids what, what's possible for them and giving them that opportunity. And I feel like with coaching, yes, you might come in with an idea of what you can achieve, what you want, but I also think there's a lot of things that you probably, even in your job. You'll be showing women like this is actually what you're capable of.

Speaker 2:

I feel like you're frozen now, yeah, no, it's true, and Alicia's been a great Say again.

Speaker 2:

You have frozen, but I can still hear you. Yeah, alicia's been a brilliant. Oh, have I? Oh, no, that's okay. Sorry, I've had such signals. That's why I'm sitting in this really shady kind of. Can you hear me again now? I can hear you. Yeah, it's fine. Can you hear me again now? I can hear you? Yeah, it's fine. Can you hear me right now? Yeah, ross, yeah, hello, can you hear me? Yeah, but my picture is my picture frozen? Yeah, have I got my head like pressed up on the screen? Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, no, you're't. You haven't. I promise you that. Okay, oh, yeah, yeah, anyway, what I want to, I can't remember when did we get to there?

Speaker 1:

It's okay. What I have to do now, unfortunately, is I have to wrap this up. Oh, you're back now. Amazing, you're back now. There you go. I feel like I want to talk to you for so much longer. Maybe we need to do a part two or something, but I just want to ask you one final question, if that's okay, one of the most important questions, because I feel like you don't truly know what this is until you've kind of come as far as you have on this journey. So for you, what does feeding your health now mean to you?

Speaker 2:

it means. It means for life, it means doing stuff for life in every sense of that phrase, actually, as in for a lifetime, but also for life and vitality. And it also means finding much more peace. I'm not saying I don't sometimes have that kind of spike of struggle, but finding more peace with the fact that I can't just eat however I want, whenever I want, and get away with it. I think that's it, the kind of get away with it factor. You know, I do feel like. You know, I kidded myself that no one will notice. It's just, I can carry this, it's fine. You know, nobody notices, I can still dress myself nice, I can still look quite nice, and the kind of get away with it mentality.

Speaker 2:

And the thing that I've really realized is that I mean, so many people have said lovely things about you know, complimenting me on my, on my physical appearance, yes, but I suppose just in it's, I don't know somebody said, oh, bex, you're aging backwards, which is obviously very nice to hear, and I, you know, when you, when you have, when you have that happening, then you're, you're kind of I don't know, you're sort of I don't know where I'm going with that, but it's it just really I don't know where I'm going with that, but it's it just, really, I don't know. It makes you feel like I don't know. Just. I feel like I'm ending on a kind of damp squib there trying to convey but it's, it's just, it's this, it's this, this thing of it's, it's, of course nobody's going to turn around and say, well, actually, if they do turn around and say that you, oh, you look awful. You've put on a load of weight there, haven't you? Oh, I don't think you're looking quite as good as you used to. Well, frankly, you maybe don't be friends with that person, because that's not a very nice thing to say.

Speaker 2:

But so you could just sort of extrapolate that the fact that people kind of pounce on you and say nice things as your physique improves and your energy improves and your skin looks better, and you know, because you're doing that, you decide, you know, I'm going to have some facials, I'm going to do like I'm going to do things that make me look nicer, because I feel nicer, because that makes me feel better in myself, me feel better in myself, yeah, so you sort of start all of that, but it all comes from you know, you had, you had to, you had to do something to kick that off. Yeah, you can't just sit there and hope. And you got it. And then for me I had to and I said I still that is going to be my next test honestly is really sticking with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that extra kilo like I've figured out my red lines now but do you know what? Just two or three kilos or four kilos or five kilos more. I used to think that didn't really make much difference and it would just sort of melt all over me, as it were.

Speaker 1:

but nah, it makes a difference yeah, it does, but you've done so incredibly well, and I know it's not always easy, because changing anything in life is never easy, but it's not supposed to be, otherwise we'd all be walking around with a six-pack, right so? But you have done an incredible, incredibly well and it's been a privilege to have you as part of you in my house. It really has, so much so that I would love to, like I'd love to have a conversation with you again, because I feel like I've got to rush now and get on another call which I'm now 20 minutes late for.

Speaker 2:

No, no and I not because I told you I had silly setup issues which I'm in this funny anyway carried on and we cracked on.

Speaker 2:

We've done it, but that's one of your methods. Well, like I had my nice setup and then I couldn't use it, so I'm on this, my mobile anyway. Just you know, do it, don't get it perfect and I continue like I'm not a paragon of brilliance at that. You know, I definitely struggle with that, but I'm learning and I'm trying, and you know that's the thing, and that's the most important thing.

Speaker 1:

Actually it's the most important thing actually it's the most important thing is to not don't choose perfectionism, because if you choose perfectionism, you'll never do anything. And look how far you've come. I know you've been in the program a while, but look what you've achieved, and more so from a mindset perspective, because you can't lose what you've learned and you can't lose who you've become.

Speaker 2:

It's hugely that yeah, it's hugely that mindset stuff, Because actually I lost I pretty much lost the main chunk of weight that I wanted to lose, Relative. I was looking back, you know, relatively, relatively quickly, relatively early on, and then it's been more of a OK, how to help me maintain, help me keep this rather than just have it.

Speaker 1:

You, you know the peaks and troughs, and here we go again. Roller coaster time. Yeah, yeah, we've done amazing.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for taking your time you're very welcome and I think that you need a graduate school. That's the one thing I would say have an amazing time in Scotland.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much again, and I've loved chatting to you, so thank you yeah, good to all right, take care bye.