Finding Worth: Leadership, Voice, And Change | Sarah Barnes-Humphrey

What does it really take to find your voice, build something that matters, and stay well while you do it? Hannah sits down with entrepreneur and podcaster Sarah Barnes-Humphrey to trace a vivid arc from family-run logistics to leading two shows and a nonprofit that funds diverse voices on global stages. Along the way, we get honest about the messy middle—rebranding under pressure, learning new skills overnight, and letting imperfect audio ship because intention beats polish.

The heart of this conversation is self-worth as a living practice. Sarah shares how using your voice, creating safe spaces, and staying curious can turn setbacks into leverage. We explore human design as a lens for honoring differences without shame, and we reframe productivity through cycles, seasons, and capacity. Instead of chasing perfect, we celebrate progress: 40 percent today, 60 percent tomorrow, and permission to call both a win. That shift lowers burnout risk for creators, founders, and leaders who want sustainable growth.

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Transcript

Meet Sarah Barnes Humphrey

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Hello, welcome back to the podcast Journey to Well. My name is Hannah. Today we are doing a really fun conversation, blending a little bit more in-depth human design and leadership, self-worth. We get to hear Sarah's story. We have a lot of fun conversation coming your way. Um, so let me briefly introduce you, Sarah. Sarah Barnes Humphrey is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, self-worth advocate. She also has not one but two podcasts, which we'll get to. So she's the founder of Let's Talk Supply Chain and Blended. Um, so somebody that has their hands in a lot of different pots, and I'm very interested to hear what led you here to where you are specifically in your life, Sarah. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. And you know, I just said this, this is my favorite question, but who is Sarah and what's a little bit of your story?

From Family Business To Podcasting

SPEAKER_04 2:09

Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me on the show, and congratulations to you because you know, content creation podcasts, you know, it's not easy. And you've done a really great job with yours and curating some cool content for your audience. So congratulations on that. Um so yeah, Sarah Barnes Humphrey. Um I didn't start off in content creation. I mean, I spent 25 years in supply chain and logistics. Um, we had a family business, and I spent majority of you know, my career and sort of my journey in that industry. Like we talked about it at the dinner table when I was nine years old. So I feel like it's in my blood. Um, but I started this podcast back in 2016 while I was director of sales and marketing, and it was at a time where not a lot of people listened to podcasts, but I wanted to start it. I asked a guy from a colleague to come and be my co-host, and we called it Two Babes Talk Supply Chain because I wanted to see how far we could push the industry. Um, and then 10 days before my 37th birthday, my dad closed his doors and I was out on my butt with nowhere to go. But I had companies paying to come on the show, so I had obligations to fulfill, even though I didn't know how to I had to learn graphic design, social media, website design, you name it, to try to put out a podcast episode because I lost my team. I lost my team, I lost my co-host. Um and in January 2018, I started the Woman in Supply Chain series because I wanted to learn more about how women navigated the industry and like their career path and what did that look like. And by April, no women would come on a show called Two Babes Talk Supply Chain. So I had to rebrand it to Let's Talk Supply Chain, which is probably the craziest week of my life. Um, because if anybody's tried to change, I think our slug for our podcast, like our podcast hosting thing is still two babes. Because you can't change that. If you change it, you like lose everything. Yeah. Um, the woes of content creation. Um, yeah, and so I just sort of started out on that journey and tried different things. There wasn't really anybody that I could emulate and really understand what it was that I was doing to be successful in that industry. But I worked two part-time jobs while I was starting this business. I didn't pay myself for three years. So, you know, but now we're a team of 18 people, which is awesome. And in 2020, I actually expanded our podcast to blended podcasts because I wanted to talk more about inclusion in the workplace, not just gender. I knew it wasn't just about gender. And so I started blended because it was like a red table talk for uh podcast. And a year later, I actually uh transitioned into a nonprofit called the blended pledge. And we give grants to cover travel expenses so that diverse voices can say yes to speaking engagement. So lots going on, but really, you know, that's the short version of sort of my my journey into all of this. And then my personal brand with the self-advocacy, the self-worth advocacy came about in 2024.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

So yeah. It sounds like a lot of finding your voice, using your voice, standing up for yourself, of all of those kind of have a link throughout your podcast. I mean, just podcasting in general, right? Yeah. Um, but every all of that and the self-worth advocacy and journey. Can we dive in there? I guess. Like what has I'm always curious, what has your journey been in discovering your self-worth? What does let's even start with like what does self-worth mean to you? I love definitions. If you've listened to my podcast before, I feel like I'm just obsessed with like the definition. Let's have a really strong basis because I think that that's really important when we're talking about these terms that we hear all the time, right? Like self-worth, self-love, self-advocacy, all of those things. But what does that mean to you? And then we'll drive dive into your journey with it.

Rebrand And Building From Zero

SPEAKER_04 6:28

It's such a great question. And I think it means different things to different people because I'd love to ask that question back to you, you know, once you know I share my perspective, but it's it's one of the reasons why I wrote the book. Yeah. So the book is called I Buried Her in a French Press, and it's it's all of my collection of stories about how I found my voice and how we show up in the world. I think that self-worth uh really boils down to how we feel about ourselves, how we feel about ourselves in certain situations or in situations in general, and how we actually show up for not only ourselves, but the world or the people within our lives and stuff like that. And that that really is a reflection of our self-worth and how we feel about ourselves. And it's interesting because I'm working on a second book, and the book is gonna be a compilation of stories from other people, mostly women, about how they feel about self-worth. What does that mean to them? What does it actually mean to them? What does that look like? And I think it's so interesting because we get so caught up in the fact that this one word has to mean the same thing to everybody. And I think we're slowly unraveling that and realizing that everybody is a person holistically in and of itself, whether it comes down to medical, right? Or you know, one diet isn't good for everybody necessarily. It might work for the short term, but not necessarily the long term, right? And everybody has different attributes to themselves and they have different ways of thinking about certain words, and it's not good, bad, wrong, right, you know, and and we get so caught up in what's right and what's wrong of how people think about things. And I just so that's why I think it's interesting around this one word, how it differs between each of us. So, what do you think self-worth means?

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Yes, I love this conversation, and that's something I talk about all the time. Like I said, I use the example of diets actually, because we watch someone on Instagram, right? And they share, I lost X amount of pounds on X diet, and I'm going to take you through the entire thing and I'll show you how to lose weight as well. And then it doesn't work for us, and then we think something's wrong with us. Uh and that's not the case. It might just not work for your body type. And actually, I will answer your question, but actually, that is one of the reasons I started obsessing over human design because it shows you, it's like this blueprint that can show you your energy, how your energy best moves through the world, your personality, like the way that you are. Uh, it shows you how you digest information and food most easily, or I always say easefully. Um, it shows you all of these different aspects, how you how you travel, like the best way that you can travel. Do you like, should you go to not should you? Um, is your design more apt to go to the same vacation spot or a similar vacation spot or somewhere new? And there's so many different areas of human design. And to me, it really is rooted in this when we think that we're different, we think that something's wrong with us. Right. And that's not true, and that does play a direct role in your self-worth. So for me, self-worth is all about worthiness, feeling worthy. And that comes from, I believe it comes from knowing who you are, liking who you are, and being authentic and feeling that you're able to authentically express yourself through this world in whatever capacity that is, whether that's your job, your business, your relationships, your interactions with old people at the grocery store, whatever it is, do you feel that you're authentically you? And autonomy is a big word I feel like I hear on on podcasts these days, but do you feel that you have autonomy over your life? And I think that that really plays a huge role in self-worth and feeling worthy. And I agree with you, it really starts with yourself and how you feel about yourself is going to be how you outwardly act. I mean, it's going to affect every area of your life for sure.

SPEAKER_04 11:10

Yeah, I think it's also about like taking off the pressure. You know, you talked about liking yourself and that being part of self-worth. But I think at the end of the day, if it's 40% today, 60% tomorrow, and 100% on the following day, if we take the blame and the shame out of it, yeah, what does that look like for us, right? We take the pressure off of ourselves, we take the blame and shame out of it. So when you talk about self-worth being how much we like ourselves, it's changing on a daily basis and sort of being okay with that ebb and flow of what that looks like for us.

Launching Blended And The Pledge

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And taking that judgment out of it. And I and I think, at least in my experience, that's a big one. In my experience, I have been able to, it's not even this work that I've done to take out the judgment, I don't think, or take out the shame. But the more that I've understood myself, the more I've noticed the judgment goes away. And it's probably age too, not that I'm like old, but I definitely do feel that as I've aged, I genuinely just don't care what people think. And I don't know where that came from. The only thing that I can say is that I understand myself more. And like I know that I need to go to bed. I need to be in bed between 9 and 10. Like that's just that's just me. And it used to be again, like I think when you're in, it depends what culture you're in. When you're in college and we're staying up till 2 a.m., I did that. Of course I did. But did I feel good? Absolutely not. And some people are morning people, some people are night people. And the culture that I was in that celebrates staying up late, it again, it made me feel like something was wrong with me. Why can't I stay up? Why don't I want to go out? Why don't I want to go to the club, you know, every day of the week? What's wrong with me? And when I I guess, yeah, I guess it's a culture thing too. Because I was gonna say I didn't really learn that I was a a morning person, but it when I shifted my culture, my community, my outward setting, then I was really able to kind of settle into, yeah, I I go to bed early, and that's okay with me.

SPEAKER_04 13:31

That's just it's also, you know, progress over perfection, right? Like self-worth is a journey, you're not gonna have it 100% every single day. Well, that's what the book is about, yeah. Right is really understanding what you've been through in your journey, reflecting kind of back on what you learned from that. I don't want to use the word failure because it's very, very, very negative, right? And I don't think we actually fail at anything, I think things just shift in a way that that might not be for you anymore. That person might not be for you, that situation might not be for you. And I think if we get used to the feeling of progress over perfection and the fact that I'm 40% today, tomorrow's a new day. Let's see where we're at. And if we're at 60%, that's progress. If we go back to 50%, it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean that we've fallen backwards. It just means that day, that's what our progress looks like. And I think we just get like too caught up in these like pressure loops from ourselves, from society, the judgment, yeah, you know, and there's so much that we can just learn from what we've been through and how we handle something, and maybe how we want to handle something differently the next time.

Defining Self-Worth

SPEAKER_00 14:48

And how how we are just as a society, there's this pressure of always being at 100%, which a lot of my work also is cycle work. So I have to show, like, I have to come from that perspective as well of as a woman, and you work again, like I love this book. I can't wait to read your new book, by the way, of of interviewing like what self-worth means to other people. And again, in in my world, in my lens, having this knowledge of our cycle, like literally, our hormones are different. So you're not going to be at 100% or even 80% every single day. And then my other thought would be how do you define progress? How do you define productivity? Like today I wasn't productive. Why? Like, what did you not do that feels unproductive and almost like constantly not crazily reinventing that, but like, can I loosen my blinded view of what progress and uh productivity is to oh, I got the kids out of bed, I got myself out of bed. Can that be productive? On like right before your period when you're fucking exhausted? Like, can that be your productivity versus I I made all my marketing reels and I made all my client calls and I I hit all of my quotas for the day? That's honestly, it's just not going to happen. So, what if we how would that feel if we took that pressure off of ourselves? Yeah. Allowed that exhale of, oh, I was still productive. What does, what does progress, what does productivity mean for you and how has that shifted over your journey?

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Yeah, and I think you're right. Like you hit it on the the nail on the head is that progress looks different every day, and it looks different for people just in general. Yeah, right. I mean, my what I think success looks like versus what you think think success looks like for you in your in your world are gonna be two completely different things. And so progress towards that, or maybe it's progress towards forgiving somebody, right? Forgiveness is my word this year. Um, and so for me, every day it navigating through that word and what it means for me, like forgiving myself for certain things, maybe forgiving other people for other things, so that I can get some stuff out of my head because I'm, you know, I'm just constantly battling some some old discussions and different different things like that. You know what I mean? Um, because that's a form of punishment on yourself as well, is that sort of like recycled habit of you know, trying to remember something that was hurtful. And I do that, but anyways, I've totally gone off script for this.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

No, and forgiving yourself for not forgiving yourself that day, too.

SPEAKER_04 17:56

Right. So, like the example for me is around this word forgiveness for this year, is that one day I'm gonna be like totally like, no, I forgive you, I wish you well, I love you, and I miss you, you know, and that's how I'm gonna start my day, and I'm not gonna think about it again. Or I start the next day and I'm revisiting all these things, and then I'm like, okay, wait a second. So progress for me is awareness that day. Wow. Progress for me the day before is that I've actually verbalized it, let it go, and haven't thought about it for the rest of the day. You see what I mean? Yeah. So I feel like sometimes a lot of this pressure is so like man-made in the fact that we've got to do all these amazingly public things that make us look like good human beings. When realistically, it's what happens in the dark in those moments where you're being pulled down to say, wait a second, no, no, no, not for me today. And that's the progress that happens. And the the stuff that really matters that we need to take note of and be proud of ourselves for. It's one of the reasons why I don't like New Year's resolution. I neither today are like so detrimental to our health and our self-worth. Yeah, because the blame and shame. Yeah, you don't do something for your resolution two days in, and it's like, oh, here we go. And then we quit. Yes, we quit on ourselves. Why? Yeah, because we may have set the goal too high. Okay, so what? Re-establish the goal and try again, make it smaller, or too many goals.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

I feel like we have so many goals, and we don't know why we're setting a goal. That's that's my biggest thing. That was my biggest thing a few years ago. Like, okay, I want 10 new clients this month. Why? Because because Sarah told you, or she had 10 new clients. She was posting about 10 new clients that she got in December. Great, great for her. Congratulations. But do you do you need, can you handle 10 new clients? Do you need 10 10 new clients? What if you get 10 new clients and they're terrible clients? Are they aligned client? Like, there's so many aspects to these New Year's resolutions. And right again, the pressure. Why in why in January? Yes, seasonally, that's the worst time, first of all. Everyone just wants to take a nap. And also, like, why is there one month, one day where we're like, all right, let's lose 20 pounds, let's increase our business by 120%. And like, what? Have you have you laid any sort of foundation? I think all of that, uh yeah, clearly I have strong feelings about New Year's.

SPEAKER_04 20:49

Well, and and just to just piggyback on that, just a tiny bit. So, one of the things that I like to challenge my audience is to pick a sustainable development goal for the year and do something towards it. Either a quarter, a month, I mean daily if you're really feeling it. You know what I mean? So it takes us outside of ourselves and takes a look at what's going on in the world and where they might need some of our help and our magic and whatever that looks like, and it makes it about us providing impact rather than self-centered on us as an individual that turns into blame and shame. Because if you're able to work through and pick a goal like that that's going to help something or somebody or the environment or have a purpose, give you a purpose for it that resonates with you, then it then takes it outside of yourself and you know that you're making a difference, which changes the motivation behind it, I think, too.

Human Design And Being Different

SPEAKER_00 21:50

So that thing takes off the pressure as well. Like when it feels like it's not all about you. I think the things that I've done that are more other related, I do feel that I place less pressure on myself, which would be a good practice to then how can I also carry that over to all of the other goals that I have or all of the other intentions that are more self-centered and see if that's helpful. That's a good one. I like that.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

That and the the word of the year. Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

I always have done a word of the year, and that's nice because you can also then reflect next January how have I embodied that word? How has this word shifted over time? I think that's the other thing that I wanted to bring up when we're talking about redefining progress and redefining per um productivity and perfection is so I you may know. I don't know. I was gonna say, I'm sure you know, but you may or may not know. Um, like our entire body regenerates with every seven years. So literally seven years from today, you're gonna be biologically like the cells in your body, your skin cells have all shed. Then you have completely new skin, like your hair follicles, everything every seven years. So, with that and the knowledge that we are constantly changing, how has that been for you in your journey in that re uh redefinition of like productivity of and letting that go? I think what I'm really trying to get at is that I know me, like there are these mindsets. When you were talking about mindsets, you kind of sparked that you triggered this thought of can I redefine like even forgiveness or forgive myself for you know kind of getting stuck in these thought patterns that maybe I had years ago something happened. And that and actually allowing ourselves to change. Like, can I actually allow myself to fully give that up? What would that feel like? What would that look like? How has that journey been for you?

SPEAKER_04 24:02

It's a lot of therapy. I mean, let's just be real. Let's be honest. I um I have been in therapy since my early 20s. I am now 45. And I have also tried all sorts of forms of therapy and spirituality to also see what resonated with me the most and made the most impact for me. So there's, you know, there's talk therapy, um, there's hypnotherapy, there's intuitive healing, there's um generational healing, right? And I have, and there's even more than that. There's like energy healing and like all that kind of stuff. And I'm I'm into all of it. And I really believe to try everything at once. Because you really don't know what works for you, what doesn't work for you, what you like, and what you don't like until you try something. And so when we talk about my journey, it's been a lot of that.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:05

Um, it's been a lot of working through some of my like I have an autoimmune, and I talk about that in the book. Um, and that really took a toll a lot of times on my self-worth. Um, I'm a step parent. That is a hard one. Like a really hard one. And I definitely needed therapy through that. Yeah, I believe. You know, and so my journey has uh for me to sort of get to this point, and by no means am I at that destination. I know that there is still work on a day-to-day basis to be able to do that, and that's what this book is all about. It's like I've lived through these things, I've lived through these things that has happened, and I showcase how I found my voice again and again and again through all of these events that had happened throughout my life, but also I used those events to also figure out what my superpower is. And every single one of these therapy sessions was a pebble, and you'll hear me talking about it in the book. Not just a therapy session, but like one of these events that happened. The good, the bad, the ugly, they're all sort of these stepping stones into who you are today. Right? They're all sort of making you into who you are today, the lessons learned, how you get triggered, right? How you move through being triggered, you know, some of that trauma that happened, you know, reflect on all of it, see what your superpower is. You know, and I think once you really understand the impact that you can make or that you want to make in the world and what your superpower is, um, and there's no pressure in that. I didn't find mine until I was 44. You know, there's no pressure in that whatsoever. But if you start being aware of different things, and I think I don't know if I answered your question, but it definitely took a lot of therapy, and I'm still on the journey. Like there's still so much more to discover as to who I am, what I'm capable of, what I want to do, what I don't want to do. You know, I'm constantly learning all of that. And I'll tell you, as an entrepreneur, I have many different businesses. I've got a lot of people that work work with me, and some people work out, some people don't. Some of the ideas work out, some of them they don't. Some of them I'm failing publicly, you know, and everybody's sort of like, how do you do that? I was like, I don't really know, but I'm just gonna sundown it and we're gonna go and we'll see what happens. Yeah. Because it didn't work. I tried it, it didn't work. Maybe it'll resurrect later on as something else with a different name, and everybody's gonna love it and it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Yeah, no, but it's true. It's it's what you said earlier that we don't really fail, we learn, and maybe you're maybe the failure quote is learning how something doesn't want to go, learning how it's not working, and again, right, maybe it's just right now. That's a good point, too. It doesn't mean that it's not maybe it will never work again or ever. It's just right now this isn't working, and how can you twist and make some adjustments and maybe then then it's going to be successful? And again, what is success to you?

Progress Over Perfection

SPEAKER_04 28:23

But the perfection part of it that we get wrapped up in. Yeah, yeah. So instead of making progress, we're like, oh, this isn't perfect, I can't put it out there, I can't start it, I can't launch it, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. And so your progress get hindered gets hindered because you think everything needs to be perfect. And I'll tell you, I am not a graphic designer. Those those social cards that went out for those early episodes, they sucked.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

I actually really like that. That's one of the things that I say about my YouTube channel is it took and it took me a year to start my YouTube channel solely because I kept talking myself out of it, thinking, you know, kind of kind of like it's not gonna be good enough. Like I don't have a camera. I don't, I I am not a video editor. So go watch the archives of my YouTube channel and laugh at my video editing because I do that sometimes. But so many reasons, right? That I talked myself out for a year and finally I arrived at this knowledge and this belief that you'll never be ready. You really won't, because nobody starts with a million followers. Nobody starts with a graphic design degree and a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like maybe you are a graphic designer as an entrepreneur, but you don't have the other um knowledge either. Um, and so I knew, like, I went into it knowing, almost knowing that it was going to suck. Not that I was going to suck, not that what I was saying was terrible because I believed in what I was saying, but how I was saying it, I was so awkward. I would write down all of my notes for the whole thing. And like you see me, and I tried to edit out like when I'm looking over at my notes, but you still see a little bit of me like looking over. It's so terrible. It cracks me up. But I did it. And one of the compliments that I get oftentimes now, four, three, four years later, is oh, you look so comfortable on camera, like on my social media channels, on my podcast, like you're so comfortable. Babe, it's because I've been doing it for so long and not even that long. Like, let's see where I am in 10 years. I still don't think I'm great. But like I've made progress. And that starting when when when you know that it's going to suck and releasing that perfection. And trust me, I tried to make it perfect. Like, it's not that I didn't try to make it perfect, but but I I also knew it wasn't going to be perfect, and you can apply that to literally anything, not just starting your own YouTube channel, but you just made me think of that idea because we do get so stuck in the perfectionism, and that really can did that hold you back? Like, I mean, you started no, you started the podcast just like how long did it take you to start a podcast?

SPEAKER_04 31:27

So I will say that is one thing that I don't have a problem with is perfection because I will literally do something and put it out there just see what happens. Love that. Um, you know, one of the examples is blended. So blended, the blended podcast, I bring five different people from different walks of life together to talk about inclusion in the workplace. And the reason why I tell you that part of it is because I would get caught up in the fact that I would have five people lined up for the show and two people would show up. And I would get upset. Yeah. But then I was like, well, wait a second, what am I getting upset at? We are talking about some of the most difficult topics.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

People are gonna get in their heads and they're gonna think that they're not good enough. And they are not the people who should be talking about this topic. And so they are gonna drop the day before, they are gonna drop the day of, and they are going to send all sorts of excuses as to why they're not coming and they're not showing up for that show today. And so it was up to me to change the mindset into whoever is meant to be here for this conversation will be here. And whatever they have to resolve because they didn't show up because of whatever they had in their head is not my problem to bear. And that was on me. That wasn't on them, that was on me. And it made it so much easier to then walk through this path of podcasts about inclusion when I took the pressure off. And yeah, if I've got one person out of five that has said yes or shows up, I can't do a podcast with one other person. The whole idea of the podcast is different perspective. So yeah, sure. One person, I'll reschedule it. But if I have a minimum of two people and there's three of us in total, it's a game on. And I don't think anymore about those other people. Yeah, like it doesn't come up because it's on them. If they didn't show up that day and they want to be part of it, they'll message me again. And then it's up to me whether I'm gonna go through that again or not. Right? Yeah, and so realistically, it's it's all about you know, choices. Um, and so no, I've never been caught up on it, but also I've had a lot of indications along the way. Like my the episodes that have the worst audio are the ones that are the most listened to, they have the most downloads. So I pay attention to these things, yeah, right? And then that helps me not get caught up in perfection because people are listening anyways.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

I love that. I think, especially in in the social media aspect, or you know, I'm kind of looping podcasting and like YouTube and podcasting, and with that, we can get so caught up in does your grid look beautiful? And does your is your podcast like adequately audio engineered and all of these things? And does that does it sound better? Absolutely, but to your point, does it make a difference? No, it really, I mean, and that's what I've been trying, that's what I try to. It's really about your heart, I think.

Redefining Productivity And Cycles

SPEAKER_04 34:49

At the end of the day, like there's a huge energetic component between what you're putting out energetically and well, and listen, I mean, part of the human experience is also that comparison part of it. Yeah, right. It's not necessarily comparison to other people. You were just talking about the grid. I was talking to somebody the other day about our YouTube compared to somebody else's too. Yeah. But the human experience, right? It's not that we're gonna get away from that. Yeah, but if we're aware of these different things and what it does to us, because listen, there are some days that I go down a damn rabbit hole and I'm comparing it, my uh our stuff to other people, and I'm like, oh my goodness, I don't know, I don't know if I have that kind of energy. Like, I don't know if I can match that, and like I gotta do some of this stuff too, and da da da da da. So it happens, of course. But then the next day, I'm like, no, no, no, wait a second. You're doing a great job. People love what you're doing. Let's pull up your big girl pants and let's keep it going. You know? It comes back to the self-worth-white.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

No, and I think that does come back to the self-worth. It's not always feeling worthy, always feeling like you're not comparing yourself because you're right. That is we're human, we're wired to avoid change, we're wired to compare. Like we're there's a lot of these wirings that that are just part of us being human, but it is that I would bring in the word resilience. It's the resiliency, the ability, it's not the ability to not let anything bother you. It's the ability to hold yourself, to have the capacity to hold yourself through that. Yes, wallow, go for it, go down your rabbit hole of because something also can come from that, and you can have an idea of oh, actually, what if I did this? Like that would be that would be really cool when you allow yourself to to compare. I mean, that's a weird perspective, but it's true, a lot can come from every emotion that you're feeling and everything that you're going through, but it's not staying there, and it's not allowing it to hold you back, to hold you back or hold you down, right?

SPEAKER_04 37:09

Because it could definitely hold you down for a couple of days. And I mean, if that's your MO and that's that's the way that you process, fine. There's nobody here that's gonna tell you that you can't. But on that third day, you know, let's get up and do something. One of the things I don't suggest, so I am very big on facials. I love self-care. I'm very big on self-care. Um, but I don't sleep through facials because my mind is always going and I come up with the greatest ideas, and it's like right in the middle, and I can't write it down, so I have to loop it and loop it.

unknown 37:41

Oh god.

SPEAKER_04 37:42

So I remember it so I can write it down afterwards. That is so funny.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

Mine is a sound bath. I had like so many downloads during a sound bath, like the crystal bowls, and I literally pulled out my phone like a psycho because everyone else's eyes were closed except for the practitioners. And at the end, she's like, Were you okay? I'm like, I'm so sorry, but like the you it's great. I had so much to write down, but I did not relax at all during the sound bath. Like it just happened.

SPEAKER_04 38:10

It's a great example. It's a great example. You have like six or seven people that are experiencing this sound bath at the exact same time, yeah, but are having their own experience and there's nothing wrong, right, you know, about any of it.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

And it's kind of like similar to um, you know, what we're talking about in self-worth and things like that. And you know, you asked me what self-worth means. And one of the reasons why I chose that to um focus on, and you know, I say self-worth advocate. I don't know everything about self-worth. I will be the first one to tell you that I am still dealing with it on a daily basis as to figure out. But one of my superpowers is to create safe space for conversation, no matter what the topic is. And so I not only work through and try to figure out my own self-worth, but I create safe space for conversation where I help others feel empowered through their voice and help them feel seen and heard. Right. And so it can mean different things to different people, and I think that's fine. And you don't need to know everything to get started.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

The journey. I mean, I've shared, I think I shared this with you, but my my business is called journey to well because well is not a destination, it's not one day we're like, yep, I am so healthy. I have, you know, perfect levels from my doctor, I walk all the time, my relationships are perfect, my business is thriving. Like, there's no way we're never gonna wake up. That's not a reality. But can I find well within the journey? Can I be well on the journey too well? Absolutely. Can I feel worthy? Can I have this self-worth in this journey to discover more of self-worth? Absolutely. And that's going to change throughout your life as well. Your definition in 20 years, if you're still podcasting, I mean, I would love to hear that definition 20 years from now. How what is self-worth to you? Because I would venture to guess that it's going to look different. It's gonna have more depth and more um shaping it because you have 20 years of experience in this self-worth. Like it's it's going to change, and that's that's okay.

SPEAKER_04 40:32

Well, and to that point, right, is that we there's still things that we are discovering. So we talk about like discovering things about ourselves, but even in the wellness category, yeah, even in the health category, even in the medical category, we are learning new things every single day. And so if we're allowing those industries to evolve based on the different things that we're learning, why aren't we giving ourselves the same grade? Right.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

Absolutely. Yeah, such a good point. Thank you. I have I have a couple more questions. My second to last question is you podcast all the time, you come on as a guest on podcasts, you have your own podcast. So this might be a tricky question because I feel like you have a lot of spaces to have your voice be heard. But in in the aspect of even coming on other people's podcasts, what is something that you wish that we would talk about more or that you're asked to talk about more?

SPEAKER_04 41:36

Um I think self-worth. And I come back to that only because it's not something that I have generally spoken about on my podcasts.

SPEAKER_03 41:46

Cool.

Forgiveness As Daily Practice

SPEAKER_04 41:47

Um, and going through this, I've been on a few different podcasts to talk about self-worth, to talk about the book. Um, and so I think self-worth is one of them, but also um authenticity. Right? Like understanding and reflecting. I think leadership too, but leadership and self-worth intertwined because I think a lot of leaders can do more in this world and make more impact, not only in their day-to-day, but their team's day-to-day, by reflecting on some of the things that they've been through and really understanding their superpower. Um, and so those kind of things in general, um, I just don't know if we if we talk enough about because you know, I feel like everybody feels like they've got to walk through this world with like 100% confidence all the time. And there's so much blame and shame that is so unnecessary. And listen, I do it too. But if we talk about it a little bit more and we can talk about how to create that awareness, and we're a little bit more vulnerable in what our story has looked like, I think there's so much more that we can do for not only ourselves in our healing journey, but then for others as well. Because they can see themselves in you, right? They can see yourself themselves in your journey and your stories, and it makes a difference. Yeah. Because it means that we don't feel alone.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

You're unrelatable if you project yourself as infallible, that nothing, especially as a leader, and whatever that definition of leadership or being a leader is for you, because we're all I think I think I I just had a podcast and we were talking about leadership, and and he was saying we're all leaders, like you're you're leading in something, whether you're leading your family, your relationship, you're a CEO, you're an entrepreneur, and you're leading a team, like you're we're always leading someone. We are all leaders, and so that would mean that we all have this applied of, yeah, how can I how can I actually be vulnerable? And that's the hardest thing. We can take all the leadership classes. So I love this connection of leadership and self-worth because you're right. I don't, I don't think that I've really heard that much conversation around that. And how how am I really diving into myself, my life experience? And then can I share that authentically in an authentic way? And that does make me relatable. It allows you give yours when you give yourself permission, you're also giving your team, your people, permission to be human, which is just what we are.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

And theoretically it's light. Yeah, you're literally just sharing light back and forth and like giving permission to some for somebody else to share their light. Yeah, and the more that we do that, we create light within that world. The other thing I would say too is um not heavily uh editing episodes. And I I'm not saying that you do this, but I just say in general, and I I don't really ask, it's not really something that I ask a lot of people how much they edit, but some podcasts like edit out the um. And the ahs and ah, and I've never done that. Never ever. And in on my blended podcast, sometimes I get called out for like using the wrong word or saying the wrong thing or whatever. And I don't edit it out. I leave it in because those are the magical moments that people understand that I don't think that I'm the expert. I'm just the host creating the safe space. But also, this is how you have dialogue in how to figure out why what I would have said. And I was asking questions. They said you said the wrong thing, and I and I asked questions back. And this is how we have dialogue. And I think that is sometimes what's missing in some, you know, heavily edited shows and episodes that we miss the learnings around dialogue and how we can communicate with each other to actually have really impactful conversations.

Therapy, Triggers, And Superpowers

SPEAKER_00 46:08

I love that you said that because I have thought of switching to platforms, recording platforms that will edit out the ums. But you're reminding me that's why I started my podcast the way I did, because I used to edit the shit out of my YouTube videos. I would edit out the um myself, by the way. Anyone that's a video editor, like I bow down to you because it would take me, no joke, an hour to edit a 30-minute episode. And that's like with really bad editing. That's not even professional editing. But when I started my podcast, I said, I'm not doing that anymore. And I don't, I tell my guests, I used to tell my guests, I will edit it if there's something huge that you need me to take out, or if there's, you know, a loud crash or something. We don't want somebody to be listening to a podcast and have a heart attack. But I leave in the ums and the even searching, like if I ask a hard question and the pause, because I want you to know that that person is is processing, is thinking. It's not that they have this answer, you know, in their back pocket and let me whip it out in 0.2 seconds. Like, let's be human. So thank you for that reminder. And and hopefully that's inspiring to everyone to bring a little bit more humanity to oh, humility, yeah. Right to your outward, outward self. Because again, yes, back to the light thing. Like you're you being yourself and you being authentic is giving the other person the permission to give themselves grace to at least explore that. Maybe they're not there yet, or maybe they explored in a different way, but you're sending the invitation, which is huge. I love that. Where can people stay connected to you? Where can people find your podcast? Where do you hang out the most?

SPEAKER_04 48:00

Um, Instagram, I love Instagram stories. So Sarah Barnes Humphrey on Instagram. Um, I've got Sarah Barneshumphrey.com. That's where you can you can also find the book on Amazon, but you can find that on my website. Um, the book is called I Buried Her in a French Press. I promise. If you put that in the search bar, nothing else will come up.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

I love that title, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 48:21

Love, love the book. Um, and there's like it's it's a book about finding your voice and the power of being heard. That's the subtitle. But, anyways, um, and then LinkedIn. I actually spend a ton of time on LinkedIn. Um, Let's Talk Supply Chain is on LinkedIn, Blended Pledge is on LinkedIn. That's the nonprofit and the podcast. Um, so all of those places, and I really appreciate you for giving me the opportunity to let everybody know where they can connect with me.

SPEAKER_00 48:49

I that's my favorite part about podcasting is being able to connect people with other people because we don't know what we don't know until until we hear it. Um, last question. Speaking of authenticity, what does authenticity feel like in your body? What does it feel like?

SPEAKER_04 49:10

I don't know. I think it feels light. I have a lot that sits right here when it's like bad. Right? When it's not good, I feel it in my throat, my throat chakra. Um, but I think authenticity when it's when you're being yourself, um, I think it's I think it feels lighter. I don't know if that answered your question.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

I don't know if it was a spot in your body, but it's it's such an open question. All of my all of my ending questions are like toughies, but they're all related to somatic, like just an invitation to get back in your body. And how does that feel? Often people answer in in emotions or locations. So I love that. It's I I just love like somatic work, and I know that you have some experience with it, but somatic work again, it's there's no right answer. That's why I love when when somebody hears like your answer. Oh, wait, does it feel like that in my body? Like, does it feel my throat or does it feel somewhere else in my body? And it gives them that opportunity to explore what authenticity feels like in their body. So thank you for answering. I appreciate you anytime. Thank you so much, Sarah. This is such a fun conversation. I love podcasting with podcasters because I feel like we just have the best conversation. So thank you so much, and I appreciate your time.

SPEAKER_04 50:38

Thanks for having me on the show. I really, really appreciate it, and for you creating this space and allowing me to be part of that.

unknown 50:46

Thanks.