Inside My ADHD Brain: The Things I Wish you Could Understand

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In this episode of Organizing an ADHD Brain, Megs takes it back to where it all began—recording from the closet. She opens up about what it’s really like to live with ADHD, breaking down common misconceptions and sharing the very real challenges so many of us face.

From executive function struggles to time blindness, impulsivity, and big emotional waves, Megs dives into personal stories and practical strategies to manage clutter and create systems that actually work for your brain.

This episode is a heartfelt reminder of the power of self-advocacy—and the importance of speaking up and sharing your story so the people in your life can better understand you.

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00:49 Understanding ADHD: A Personal Perspective
02:09 Key ADHD Traits and Challenges
04:03 Balancing Interests and Responsibilities
06:12 The Struggle with Organizing
08:48 People Pleasing and Self-Discovery
12:28 The Loud ADHD Brain
20:06 Fight or Flight: ADHD and Perfectionism
28:41 Community and Support

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Transcript

Megs: 0:42

Hey, beautiful people. Welcome back to organizing an A DHD Brain. I am coming to you from my closet, and if you've been here since the very beginning, you know that when I first started recording my podcast, I was recording in my closet. Part of it is because the sound is soaked up by all of the clothes, And another reason is because the room that I normally record the podcast in, all the stuff has been sold. And I still have a desk in there. But it is so echoy, even with all the soundproof tiles. And it feels so weird. It's just weird. Things are changing and I feel like my nervous system is a little out of whack. Some days I ask myself, what the hell am I doing? And then other days, I know that we're on this new adventure for a reason and that there's something calling us back east. this week I wanted to record this podcast because I have a lot of clients who have people in their life that don't understand what A DHD is. So I'm going to attempt to. Talk to you about what's going on inside my brain, but then also share some experiences that I've heard from other people so that people who are quote unquote neurotypical might start to understand what it's like to truly have a DHD and how we're not trying to make your life more difficult by having a DHD, but this is just our lived experience. This episode is dedicated to the woman whose husband didn't even believe that A DHD was real until their son got diagnosed and started to understand his lived experience. This episode is dedicated to any of you who have been called lazy, but can't understand how to take that laziness out of your life. It is dedicated to the people who have felt misunderstood most of their lives, but also feel like they can conquer the world in some aspects of their life. It's dedicated to all of you, really. And I hope this is exactly what you need to hear, and I hope that this brings some clarity to the people in your life if you can send this to them to help them understand truly what you're going through. The things that I'll talk to you about during this episode are executive function. And when I talk about executive function, that is the ability to break larger tasks into smaller tasks, like truly break it down into step-by-step instructions that we can understand. I'm gonna talk about time blindness and not truly having a concept behind the time that we're spending on something, or the time that something needs to happen. I'm gonna talk a little bit about impulsivity and the fact that that is a real common thing that comes along with having a DHD and it's part of our fight or flight response when we are trying to deal with life in general or something that triggers us. And I'll also talk to you a little bit about emotions. We feel. Emotions really, really big. Oftentimes a lot bigger than neurotypical people, which is why, sometimes we can have bigger emotional outbursts, and that could be on both ends of the spectrum. It could be with anger, but it can also be with happiness. sometimes, people with A DHD are some of the most fun people to be around. it's hard to separate organizing out of all of the other A DHD stuff. So I will talk about it today, but I'm also gonna talk about the other stuff that comes along because all of it's important. I really can't separate me from the A DHD. So there are some things that you'll hear that you may not experience, and there are some things that you won't hear because I just haven't said them yet. I am gonna do a follow-up episode where I'll talk a little bit more about your experiences. So after you're done today, Please send me an email info at organizing an adhd brain.com. Send me your story. Tell me what you would like your neurotypical friends and families to understand about you so I can share it on a future podcast episode. Let's go ahead and just jump right in. I get excited about a lot of things We have an interest based nervous system, and what that means is that. Doing mundane tasks like washing the dishes or throwing away trash brings us no excitement whatsoever. Even when we complete it, which is why oftentimes we're gonna avoid doing the things that we know we need to do to do the things that we really want to do. And that's why you'll find people with A DHD may be painting a mural in the living room instead of washing the dishes that have been there for six days. Very real thing that could be happening. But I get excited about a lot of things. And what I mean by that is I get excited about my business. I get excited about the growth of my business and the podcast, but I also love gardening and I love coloring, and I love painting and I love doing crafts with my kids, and I love being a mom. And I also want to go to literally every event, not only at my kids' school, but I wanna sign them up for everything. I want to be the best daughter-in-law you could ever have, and I also wanna be the best wife, and I wanna be the best mom. I also wanna be the best friend, but not just to one person. I wanna be the best friend to 25 people because everyone is important. Everything is important. There's so many things out there that are so amazing, except when everything is important, nothing is important. And oftentimes we underestimate the amount of time that goes into truly developing relationships that mean something to us. So I get excited about a lot, and I love to take charge. I want to be in charge of a lot. I know I can do it all, but then when it comes down to actually going to all of these events and actually being friends with everyone and actually being the best at everything I could possibly want to do. I don't take time into consideration there. I'm just excited because I truly want all of that. But when everything is important, nothing is important because I cannot take my brain and focus on one thing because I have extended it to everything. Which, why does this relate to organizing? Because when I'm overextending myself, not only on my kids' activities, But also with friend activities and family activities and trying to get my business going and, and doing this and that, it means that organizing gets put on the back burner. It's overwhelming, but that's the thing that I would've chosen to ignore I know that it's there. It's incredibly overwhelming to me, but I don't have time to stop and do it. And guess what? It's not gonna bring me any dopamine. So I'm gonna continue to ignore it, and I'm gonna do the things that are way more fun, even though I'm overwhelmed. So now I have no time on my hand, and I'm also trying to do all of these organizing things, but I say this Because sometimes people equate not being organized and having clutter everywhere with being lazy, but that's not it at all. It's just the fact that one we were never taught and organizing is a lot harder than one might think. I went into this business thinking, yeah, of course I can be an organizer. And now that I know so much, I'm like, holy crap, no wonder I failed so much. Based on all of my efforts in trying to do this, but yes. Okay, so number one, you weren't taught how to get this organizing done. Number two, you don't have any time. We were never meant to be this busy, but we are so constantly busy and inundated with stuff and honestly, I'd much rather go and scroll on my phone and get a dopamine hit than go and organize something that I'm not gonna be able to keep organized after a long time. Anyway. Also caveat to this, this is who I was. This isn't who I am anymore. As far as the organizing piece, I've done a lot on building trust with myself and believing in myself to keep things organized, and I have that trust now because I have practiced. So this is a little bit of a blend between who I am and who I was. Then my A DHD hasn't gone away, but there are a lot of ways that I've learned how to work with my brain to understand how I can be organized and keep a home where I don't have to struggle to clean it every time someone's coming over and so on and so forth. Okay. That's one of the reasons why I say when everything is important, nothing is important. I say that so much because when we're so focused on everything, we can't be focused on anything, which means that our expertise and our insanely creative beautiful brains are gonna be so spread thin that the overwhelm is gonna take over and we're not going to be able to use our brains to their fullest potential. People pleasing is in my nature. My whole life I have been trying to make other people happy and just showing up because I love it when other people are happy. I am by nature just a positive person, right? And I try not to be too positive because again, I see everybody complaining about people being too positive everywhere. And I'm like, no, I don't want that to be me. I need to complain about something just so that they see I'm a normal human. Okay, but. That was me. People pleasing. Again, I'm a genuinely positive person, but also crap happens and I'm happy to talk about that too. But I would prefer to look at things on the bright side. That's just who I am as a person I'm not gonna apologize to for that. ever. People pleasing has always been in my nature and I didn't realize I was doing it, but I've constantly showed up to try to make others happy, to try to predict what other people want. I don't ask them, I just think that I know what they want. What a dickhead move that was, how dare I decide what someone else wants without even confirming with them. Here I am just walking around assuming I know, what's gonna make everyone else happy. And I've never taken the time to truly look inward and ask myself what I wanted. So two weekends ago for my birthday, we went up to Breckenridge in Colorado. And we haven't really taken time away since I started this business because, I'm not getting a corporate salary like I used to. I was really excited. We had our kids come up on Saturday and I was trying to think, what would everyone wanna do? And then I was like, whoa. What do I want to do? And asking myself that question allowed me to say, okay, I wanna go hiking for sure. My husband and my daughter do not like hiking. My other daughter does. So I was like, okay, but what could we do where it's an everyone thing? And my husband actually told me that he didn't like hiking because it always felt like we were in a rush to get to the top or to get somewhere, or it was super boring until we got to the adventure at the top. And then my other daughter, She just really doesn't like bugs. So we found this hike that. I wanted to go on but would make everyone else happy at the same time. and my husband had said in the car on the way there that morning that he wanted to see a moose. So we took this beautiful hike. And we saw moose in the wild it was so cool. This is nothing to do with A DHD, but it does have everything to do with focusing on what I wanted instead of what everyone else wanted. By doing something that I wanted to do, everyone else was happy as well. And we were able to create this really beautiful, incredible memory. But people pleasing is exhausting, and I don't know why I do it. It's actually truly uncomfortable when I am thinking about what I want instead of what other people want. But in the end. I have been able to create boundaries in a way that I've never been able to do my entire life. And it has been so powerful. But for some of you listening, you might still be at the beginning by saying, oh, I'm a recovering people pleaser. But you're like, I have no idea what the hell to do, to not do the things that I've done my whole life. And one of them is to start asking, oh, what do I want? What do I want? Because in the end. That is what matters, and that's what's gonna fill up your cup when you think about what you want. And not in a narcissistic way, but in a way that, Hey, what do I need right now? And then how is that gonna support me showing up for others as well? Okay. Moving on to how loud it is in my brain. My brain is constantly on. It is constantly going, and it is constantly thinking of the next thing. It's like a runaway train. A train that's leaving the station. It might start off a little bit slow, but then it starts going downhill and there's absolutely no breaks on the train, and it is a train of thought. Haha. That's probably why they have that phrase. But that train of thought takes us down this pathway. Of connecting all of these new neuropathways to understand what's next. Now, this could happen in so many different ways. I'll just give you an example. This is how my brain works. I'm gonna try to do this in real time. I'm sitting here in my closet and I'm looking at this dress that I wore for my niece's wedding and it's beautiful and I've worn it twice. So do I keep it or do I let it go? Now? It looks really good on me, but ultimately I've already worn it a couple times. I've taken pictures in it, so do I really need to keep it? But isn't that stupid? Why do we have to let go of something that has been worn a couple times and people have seen it in pictures before? I'm not like a queen or a princess or anything. It doesn't matter if I wear things multiple times and I really like this dress. Anyways, I could continuously go on this path. I would start to think about maybe the wedding I was at, where I wore it, or maybe my little birthday party that I wore it at. I don't know that that's the greatest example, but when I start to think about myself as lazy or not a good friend, or I start to doubt myself, and this typically happens around the time of my month that I'm getting my period, that is when my brain turns into a really, really mean. Place to be. And that's because my hormones are changing during that time. So I'm not getting the regular dose of the things that my body uses to thrive. when I start to think of myself in a negative way, my train of thought connects me to all of the reasons why this is true, and it'll continue to take me down this runaway train of thought unless I'm practicing ways to put the brakes on. This can also happen in business ideas. I can get a new business idea and take this on a new train of thought, connecting all of these incredible ideas together, and it truly brings a fresh set of a dopamine hit to my brain. It's so exciting, but I'm constantly thinking about things very recently I have been asking my husband what he means by saying certain things out loud, and it's been kind of fascinating because I always thought that I knew what he meant by saying certain things, but by clarifying with him, it's actually helped me understand him a little bit more. And sometimes when I'm asking him like, did you mean to say it this way? He's like, oh my gosh, no, that is not what I meant to say by saying that. But I am constantly creating stories in my head about what's going on, which I then have to take it a step back and say, okay, what is true? What's really true in this situation? What do I know to be a fact so that I could take it from there? the point of me saying this is that sometimes. We are very good at ignoring what's going on around us because it's so loud in our brains, because we are going down this pathway of no return and we're in the back part of our brain. We're not necessarily in our prefrontal cortex where we do all of the executive functioning and the real thinking. We are somewhere else. We've literally gone to this other land it's daydreaming I guess, but it's more of just like my brain is always on. It's constantly on. I'm constantly thinking of what to do next, what I'm doing next. There's colors, there's patterns, there's all kinds of things happening on there, but I can't turn it off. It's very, very difficult to turn it off. My daughter actually told me the other day that she couldn't hear me because her brain was too loud, and I was like, oh my God, I can't believe that you were able to find those words and tell me that. I don't know that I would've been able to say that as a kid. Here's another example of what A DHD is like I would imagine a lot of you can relate to this in our day to day, I can be on my way to do something and I know exactly what I'm doing next, and I'm actually genuinely excited about it. Like I feel the feeling in my body of what I'm doing next, and I go to do it, and then it's gone. I don't know what it was that I was going to do. Sometimes it's crossing the threshold into a new room. You just walk into it and you're like, I don't know why I am here. I just know that I'm supposed to be here. And that's why we sometimes retrace our steps to go back to where we came from to see how we got there. This is actually working memory. I forgot to say this in the beginning, but working memory is the part of our brain where we store the things that we want to do in our prefrontal cortex so that we know what's coming next. But because our brain is working so fast and we're getting distracted by things along the way, the working memory slots that we have can get bumped pretty easily. there would be times when I would be in the car and I knew that I would have to do something on the way home, and I would be saying it to myself and I'm like, okay, what if I repeated this in my head a couple times? As I was repeating this, I would be like, I know that as soon as I get home I'm gonna forget. How do I make peace with this? And I would be annoyed. I would have the thing in my mind, and I know that I need to do this, but as soon as I got home. It would be out the window and sure enough, I would get home and I would forget it's so frustrating because there are things I genuinely know I want and need to do. In the corporate world, I used to play with silly putty all day long, and I would, make this little snapping noise. In fact, in some of the podcasts, you can actually hear me playing with it in the background. But the silly putty helps to keep me focused on the task at hand. So I'll do it while I'm working through my to-do list with my business. I'll do it while I am on the phone with clients. I will do it while I'm recording a podcast. I'm not actually doing it right now because I am smushed in between my drawers behind the dress I was just talking about, and the massage table we have sitting in the back of our closet. Fidgeting is very helpful because of our hyperactivity. And hyperactivity can show up in the brain. Right? A-D-H-D-I. Attention deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. the hyperactivity, oftentimes people don't realize that the hyperactivity is in the word because it's either hyperactive in our brain or hyperactive in our body, and oftentimes it is both. Regardless. The hyperactivity in our bodies we just need to be doing something. I remember as a kid, we would watch Touch by an angel on Sunday nights before the week started, and I was always looking forward to it, but my mom would never come and sit down. She was just always doing something. It was washing the dishes or she had to clean the kitchen, or then she had to put things away and then. I think she knew that once she sat down, she wasn't gonna be able to do all these other things. So playing with something helps keep me focused on what I wanna do. So I will actually play with Silly Putty while we're watching TV so that I stay and I focus on what I'm doing, but. That is also a state of dysregulation where I'm just, like I'm in go mode. So I feel like I need to keep going to be doing something to be productive'cause I'm in this productive mode and I'm afraid that if I stop that I'm gonna lose all the momentum and all the things that I would've gotten done by stopping in this moment, I'm not gonna be able to get done anymore. Which is so interesting and I don't have enough time to get into it today, when it comes to A DHD, we have been in a fight or flight mode our entire life, and fight or flight shows up in multiple ways. Fight flight, freezer, fawn, this gets triggered by our amygdala. Our amygdala is in the back of our brain. I actually used to do a presentation on this in the corporate world, having no idea had a DHD, but how the amygdala responded in certain situations, the amygdala is our response mechanism in the brain that helps us understand if we need to run from a lion or if we can play with it if it's a friendly lion. But in most cases, our fight or flight response with A DHD has been triggered our entire lives. In fact, A DHD, I learned this from a therapist friend of mine. The A DHD symptoms that we have are very similar to trauma symptoms in trauma victims. Regardless, this fight or flight response, we have shows up in multiple places in our lives. And it's this state of dysregulation being in fight flight freezer fawn, that prevents us from getting the things done that we need to get done, like clutter, like eliminating the additional stuff we have in our life. Perfectionism is actually a fight or flight response, and we strive for perfectionism because, well, we wanna be the best at everything we do. perfectionism shows up in our clutter and in the stuff that we have all over the place, and oftentimes it's there because we want this perfect end result. We want a Pinterest perfect pantry. We want this after that looks so incredibly amazing. We wanna be able to do it in a weekend, which is why you'll find us emptying an entire closet to be able to get something done, because we are gonna put it back in the most intricately amazing way you could have ever thought possible. But the thing is, is that we got all of this dopamine in the beginning of the project and then halfway through we lost interest. Because it's not interesting anymore. It's exhausting. There's so many decisions that come with organizing and letting go, and oftentimes there's steps that we forget along the way, like decluttering, and instead of decluttering, we're just organizing our chaos. And when we organize our chaos, we do it in a way at the end that feels like it could work. But then we forget to communicate and we don't put labels on things, and we just hope for the best, only to find out that days later. I've ruined it. The family's ruined it, and why would I ever try to do something like this again? It's exhausting. So I still want so much the perfection, but now I'm gonna avoid it until I can take two weeks off and truly be organized. But we all know that that's not realistic either. And honestly, a lot of the times we approach our clutter like we are being attacked by a lion. So some of us go off and we research how many ways can we attack this clutter? How much can I learn about being organized before I do this so I can start to take action and then we don't take action. Or I fight it because someone's coming over, so I'm going to throw everything in a cabinet, or I'm gonna put everything in the front room that nobody's gonna go in. Like, Monica's closet and friends, we're gonna just hide everything and it doesn't matter. That's just where it's gonna go. or I'm gonna flit all over the place. I'm gonna start in one area, and then I'm gonna go over here and I'm gonna do a little bit here, but then I'm gonna start a load of laundry, and then I'm gonna do some dishes, but nothing's ever gonna get done because I'm going from one place to another. That's flight. Or I'm gonna see it, I'm gonna be annoyed by it, be overwhelmed, and I'm gonna be frozen. I'm not gonna be able to take another step in the direction of where I wanna go. Those are all of these crazy ways that we approach our clutter. And honestly, I've approached my clutter in every single one of these ways. Our brains are just different and that's why it's, neurodivergence, right? Divergence is different. When we have a different brain, we have to learn how to work with our brains that make sense for us and with us, but oftentimes with so much of the world, not understanding how our brains work, including ourselves. when the whole world expects us to act and perform a certain way and we're not able to do it. They label us in their own way by saying you're lazy or you get distracted really easily. You're not able to focus. How many times have we all heard something like that? Or why the hell do you keep procrastinating something? Why do you do this? Why do you do that? And we're made to feel so awful about the things that genuinely are symptoms of the way that our brain works. A woman commented on a threads post that I had, her name is Laura Mill Ross. It looks like she's another A DHD coach, and she said it's like being given an iPhone when you've used an Android your entire life. What a powerful statement that is. Having a DHD is like being given the keys to an airplane or a jet that can go incredibly fast, but you don't have a pilot's license. My digital sidekick, who I interviewed too, her name is Amanda, you're gonna hear on the podcast soon. She said it's like living in a jungle of overstimulation, trying to chart a path through it with tenderness and tenacity, all while my mind holds all the ideas, all the feelings, and all the half finished projects. When you're learning how to work with your brain, that's different and you've been expected to perform and to be a certain way your entire life, it feels really overwhelming. But then you start to listen to podcasts and you start to see that, oh my gosh, I'm not alone in this. That's how I started. I read a book and I was like, holy crap. Other people have a DH ADHD too. This is amazing. And my brain isn't the only one like mine out there. And when you start to see that, that learning how to work with yourself actually helps you live a life that's more peaceful and one that you can actually start to breathe a little bit, you can start to trust yourself a little bit. You start to understand how you can ask other people for help, or you can send this podcast to them and say, I'm not lazy. This is just how my brain works. And actually, if you supported me and you said things like, Hey, I see that you might be struggling with this. How might I be able to support you? And the first answer honestly might be, I have no idea. But the fact that you asked me is so incredible, and thank you so much because. By someone asking you that question, you start to look for it too. Like, I wonder how someone could help me through this. How could it be beneficial if they, you know, broke things down? Like, Hey, I have this project that's I've been putting off forever, in my closet or outside, or gardening. Someone might be able to see that and say, Hey, I noticed that you bought those plants last week, but you still haven't been able to plant them and it looks like they might be dying. I know that you have a lot on your plate. gardening probably is not the best example because that's the first thing I'm gonna do to avoid everything else I have going on in my life. Okay. Let's think of something else. Oh, let's come back to the mural we were talking about. We could say, Hey, I noticed that you're almost done with that mural and you've got the paint and all the paint brushes still sitting out, and it looks like there's a lot of stuff there. I'd love to be able to help you put that back together. Is there a way that I can support you getting that done? Is there a way that we can make it fun again so you feel like you can complete this project? Because we get such a good dopamine hit at the beginning of a project that we want to get it done. It's not that we don't want it, but that dopamine is not there anymore. So getting back to a project that's already in motion doesn't feel as great. That's also often why we have so many hobbies that we don't come back to, and then we have like a hobby grave that we need to go and bury somewhere. I could go on and on and on about how my brain works for so long, but I really wanna hear from you. So please reach out to me info at organizing an adhd brain.com. What do you want someone who's neurotypical to understand about your brain so that they can start to work with you instead of against you? And this is so important when it comes to organizing, but also in how you live your life. Advocating for yourself in your work and being an entrepreneur or just as an employee. There's so many different ways that understanding your brain is gonna support you, and just because you listen to this podcast doesn't mean that your brain works like mine. It just means that you have a neurodivergence that you get to get behind and start to understand in a way that's gonna make sense for you. I have a community. It's called organizing an A DHD Brain. It's on the platform that is Circle. I love it. The people in there are beautiful, and this month we're talking about the tools that we use. I never come back to. And actually what's really cool is the conversation this month is we're also talking about the tools that we have come back to. A lot of us have actually tried something and then we gave up for a year and then came back to it a year later, which is so cool to hear.'cause I knew I did that and I see other people are doing that too. At the end of this month, you are no longer gonna be able to sign up for the community. I'm closing it for the summer. As we're focusing on the move, I'm still gonna be super active in there, but I really wanna take time to nurture the people that are there, get to know them. When you do sign up after you complete onboarding, which is like super easy videos to walk through so you understand how to use the community. You get a free 30 minute coaching with me so that we can talk about what's most important for you I got that from Russ, from the A DHD brother, so thank you, Russ. Shout out to you. it's been so great just getting to know the people that are there. Community is so beneficial, especially when you know that you are not the only one going through this. You are not. I do have one spot left for coaching this summer, only one, and then I'm gonna start a wait list for the fall. I only worked with a limited amount of people, one-on-one. It's so important to me that I'm able to dive into your life and really get to know you.'cause that's the only way we can start to create solutions that make sense for your brain. This is not a one size fits all type of thing. I'm working with you to find out what works for you and then of course, providing you with expertise along the way. So if you're interested, reach out. My calendar is in the show notes below. Join the community by going to organizing an ADHD brain.com/community. You'll see all the events that we have going on, everything else that's going on. thanks so much for tuning in. I'm gonna continue to keep you up to date with this journey of letting everything go, moving across the country. It is definitely a lesson in understanding what my nervous system can handle now that we're making such a gigantic change. Actually today, I donated literally 250 CDs and DVDs to Goodwill. It made me a little sick at first, and I did it because we never used them, and why am I keeping these things that we never use? And then I started going off on this, like we spent so much money on CDs and DVDs and we had ownership of them and now we stream literally everything. I kept probably about A hundred DVDs for the girls if we do decide to buy a motor home to drive across the country. but for now that will count towards tax savings next year. And I feel good about that. And if someone goes to Goodwill and finds those incredible CDs and also this, Indiana Jones computer game that I had a really long time ago, that was probably one of my favorite computer games ever to play. I hope it just makes their life better. next week. I'm really excited. I am going to have. My friend Inger Shey on, I met her on LinkedIn. She is a community for black women with A DHD. I am so pumped to shout her out because every woman, every man, anyone with A DHD needs to find their right community to help them thrive in life. I'll see you next week.