Ep #87 - Manifesting Money with Heart: My Mentor Jamie Berman

What if making more money didn’t require more hustle, guilt or self-abandonment? In this conversation with my mentor, coach and teacher Jamie Berman, we explore a gentler, braver way to grow your income — one rooted in desire, identity shifts and genuine self-compassion. If you’re a working women spinning a thousand plates, this episode will help you create more ease and better results… without grinding yourself into the ground.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why money is neutral — and why your beliefs about it aren’t.
• How to get specific with your desires (and why specificity accelerates results).
• Receiving as a skill: letting good things in without the guilt hangover.
• Identity shifts: grieving the old you while stepping into the next version.
• Courage + compassion: the pair that rewires long-held patterns.
• Why hours worked ≠ income (and what actually moves the needle).
• Real-life manifestation stories that make this feel practical, not “woo”.

This episode is for you if:

• You love your work and your people, but you’re stuck in rush/overwhelm mode.
• You want to make (and keep) more money without abandoning your values.
• You’re ready to drop the “harder = better” rule and allow it to be easier.

Takeaways you can use today

• Write one clear, specific money outcome for the next 30 days (no vagueness).
• Ask: Who is the version of me who already has this? Then practise one small behaviour she’d do this week.
• Notice where you deflect compliments/help/opportunities — and choose to receive instead.
• Pair every stretch with self-kindness: “This is new and I can handle it.”

Connect

• Connect with Jamie Berman: https://jamieberman.com/ or IG - https://www.instagram.com/jamieberman_ 

You can also watch this episode on YouTube with Captions - https://www.youtube.com/@TheWorkingWomensLifeCoach

If you'd like to have a chat about how I can help you further, please don't hesitate to click here & book a time with me, I'd love to meet you.

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Transcript

[Nicky Bevan] Welcome, welcome, welcome, everybody, and oh my gosh! I am so excited for today's episode. [Nicky Bevan] And actually, suddenly Gus got very nervous. Because I am joined by… The most incredible person I know. She's my mentor, she's my teacher, she's been my coach, she is a huge, huge, huge inspiration of mine. [Nicky Bevan] Ladies, friends, everybody in between, please welcome Jamie Berman, and I feel like I need a big, massive. [Nicky Bevan] From the clouds! From the crowd! 

[Jamie Berman ] Hi, thank you! Oh my god, you made me tear up! I love you so much, and I'm so grateful to be here. I'm so excited about the conversation we're gonna have. I just love you, and. [Jamie Berman ] It's been such a pleasure and honor to be your mentor and coach for the past couple of years. You just… light up any space you're in, and it's the best. I just love you. 

[Nicky Bevan] Thank you. So this is what this conversation's gonna be all about, isn't it? Lots of love, lots of. [Nicky Bevan] Gorgeous tears, and hopefully lots and lots of inspiration. So. As always, I have no plan for this conversation, but… [Nicky Bevan] Jamie is, first of all, the most incredible manifester. And then… Your work that you've done around money compared to where you've come from, I just think is incredible, which is why I chose to work with you in the first place. [Nicky Bevan] even though I loved your energy when you were coaching a weight loss. [Nicky Bevan] Previous to money, it was just such a beautiful transition, which I absolutely loved. So, do you want to start by telling us a little bit more about yourself. [Nicky Bevan] How you got into manifesting, how you got into money and business in particular. Tell us all the things. 

[Jamie Berman ] Yeah, I… totally. It's so fascinating because… [Jamie Berman ] It wasn't something that was thought through very well, in terms of becoming a money coach, or a manifestation coach. I loved coaching, and I discovered that in my. I guess it was late 20s, early 30s, where I went to a retreat, and I just felt. [Jamie Berman ] Home. I loved watching coaching, I loved getting coached, I found it so transformational. I didn't even really know what it was, but I knew that I was going through this phase of, like. [Jamie Berman ] I don't know what I'm doing with my life, the dream that I had had manifested, and it came to life, but I wasn't happy, I was like, it's not me. It's not what I want to be doing forever, and that was very disorienting, because I had been dreaming of it for so long. [Jamie Berman ] So making a big pivot whenever you finally have the success you wanted is scary, and… I reached out and found a career coach, thinking that was someone who was just gonna help me, like, figure out what's next in terms of strategy, and it ended up she was actually a life coach. [Jamie Berman ] So I discovered that work, and it was amazing. I remember thinking, wait, this is a job? This is, like, everything I love. This is everything I read about, and I just immerse myself in it. [Jamie Berman ] And so I kind of feel like coaching found me. And initially, the work that I did with people was around, like, you said, weight loss, because that was kind of my first big transformation, is healing my relationship with my body, healing my hormones, and I had found that. [Jamie Berman ] It was something I was trying to work with my whole life in terms of trying to eat right and all that, and I found that the missing piece was so much around processing emotions and mindset, and a lot of the work that we do in coaching. 

[Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] And when I added that in to wanting to be healthy, and really wanting, you know, just to feel my best. [Jamie Berman ] That's when things shifted in a huge way, and I was just like, I have to share this with the world. [Jamie Berman ] Did that work for a good two and a half years, had a successful business. [Jamie Berman ] But then I hit that point again, where I was like, wait, this isn't it. This isn't what I want to do forever. I felt like I healed my own stuff, and that was kind of the purpose of that business. [Jamie Berman ] And then I was like, but that's not it. But I didn't know what was it, right? And it's… that's a strange feeling where, you know, I'm not lit up by this anymore. I love coaching, I know that much, but I don't want to talk about food anymore. I don't want to talk about the scale. I don't want to work with these issues anymore. It just felt like. 

[Nicky Bevan] - - [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] It's not me. So I really sat with it, got lots of coaching, started kind of just diving into what. [Jamie Berman ] Who is the most Jamie, right? Like, what does Jamie love? What is the most Jamiest version of a business, right? And so, I started, like, really leaning into my desires, and, like, kind of inquiring and doing a lot of journaling around, like. [Jamie Berman ] What do I love, right? If it's just the weekend, and there's nothing to do, what kind of book am I gonna pick up? [Jamie Berman ] What kind of blog would I read? What do I love watching on TV? What kind of documentaries? And it kind of all came together in that I love manifestation. I love dreaming. I'm a big dreamer. I love going beyond. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] What's possible, and I also loved work around money, because I had had… I grew up with such a scarcity mindset in a work hard, you have to effort your way there, just double down if you want to make more money. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] That wasn't working, so I started reading a lot of books on abundance and on money, and found that that was really what lit me up, and the interesting thing was, of course, the Universe Alliance in just miraculous ways, where I was working for the life coach school at the time, and they just started offering me the money calls. [Jamie Berman ] And I loved coaching on money, and so I always say, I feel like that niche kind of found me. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] Because I had also done so much of my own inner work around it, but I decided to lean into it, and… the beautiful thing is, it didn't come from my head. It wasn't like, this is the next strategic move. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] I just kept asking powerful questions, leaning into the energy that I felt. [Nicky Bevan] Ooh… [Jamie Berman ] Kind of wanted to be expressed, started listening to signs, saying yes to things. [Jamie Berman ] And it kind of unfolded from there, and then I just kind of became that combination of manifestation and money coach. And I really… help people with the inner work around money, and the inner work around receiving, but I also love the strategy piece, too, and I can bring some strategy, and I like balance, and kind of the yin and the yang, and the feminine and the masculine, and. [Jamie Berman ] You know, helping people discover what it is that's getting in the way for them, and. [Jamie Berman ] Help them move through that so that they can create, you know, the most abundant, dreamy lives, dreamy businesses. [Jamie Berman ] And it's magical, and I love it, and it's work that I'm always doing on myself, too. 

[Nicky Bevan] Yeah. It's so… it's so incredible. And you just said something then. [Jamie Berman ] Living it. [Nicky Bevan] You said, I… Hang on, let me just recall exactly what you said. The answers didn't come from my mind. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And I'm like, ooh, that's so good, because I think we always think. [Nicky Bevan] That there's a logical way to do things, and… Especially in business, especially when we're making money, [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] You know, in the corporate world, we're like, this is what you should do. This is how we've been conditioned, this is what… And when you said that sentence, I was just like, ooh, that is… [Jamie Berman ] Yep. [Nicky Bevan] So good. So, can you just explain a little bit more what you mean by? [Nicky Bevan] The answers didn't come from my brain. [Jamie Berman ] Yes. 100%. So, I think in the past. When I started my first kind of iteration of my weight loss business, the answers did come from my brain. It was very much what makes most strategic sense? It was, let me follow someone else's plan and someone else's path, and. [Jamie Berman ] That's a great way to learn how to do something. When there's a path, and when you can take a course and learn how to do it. [Jamie Berman ] Fabulous. You can learn a lot. But I didn't feel in alignment with it, right? And I felt like. [Jamie Berman ] Something's not quite right. Something is off. And it felt like I was constantly overcoming a lot of resistance. Like, I had to fight through to make things happen, because I wasn't doing things that I was just naturally good at. [Jamie Berman ] if, you know, sometimes there's resistance because you're learning something new, but I just felt like I was in a life and a business that wasn't really in alignment with me in many ways. It wasn't just me having to learn something new, it was that I was trying to do everything in a way that didn't fit. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] So, as I just continue, you know, I learned, and I'm such a big fan of spirituality. I actually went to school and studied spiritual psychology, and what I had realized was I apply a lot of the, like, spiritual principles and universal laws and. [Jamie Berman ] Different manifestation techniques to different areas of my life, like, for example, meeting my partner, or where I want to live, and I manifest amazing things. [Jamie Berman ] But in my business, I always felt like I was trying to fit into a box, and I wasn't bringing those principles in. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] And I thought, what if… wait a minute, things start to flow a lot easier over there, where I'm not trying to force things, I'm not following someone else's plan, so I just slowly was like, what if I did, like, an experiment? [Nicky Bevan] Alright… [Jamie Berman ] And started trusting that I could bring these universal principles and. [Jamie Berman ] That ThoughtWork, of course, but also listening to my intuition and trusting myself, and really leaning into surrender. [Jamie Berman ] And allowing it to unfold. What if I could trust that that could work too? [Jamie Berman ] And so I really… it was like a full-on experiment, because it felt really scary to do it in that area of my life. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah… [Jamie Berman ] But that's kind of how that unfolded, is I didn't try to force anything, because also, I realized, like. [Jamie Berman ] I could just start to feel it whenever I was trying to force something, and it would never work. [Jamie Berman ] So, I just had to try another way, and it's hard, you know, it's hard to do, I'm not gonna lie. We want the answer, we want it to come from our brain. I have it extremely impatient ego that wants to know everything, and the whole way, and I hate being in uncertainty. [Jamie Berman ] Still to this day, I have to practice it! I have to practice being in uncertainty. [Jamie Berman ] But I was really lucky to have a really wonderful coach at that time, too, that was offering me, like. [Jamie Berman ] Slow down with this, right? You'll know when you know. What if the answer's going to arise? And so, I really trusted in that, and it was a practice. It wasn't easy. [Jamie Berman ] But I know that's why things took off in the most amazing way when I made that shift. It's because I wasn't trying to force it, I wasn't trying to rush it. [Jamie Berman ] Even though a part of my mind wanted to, I just had to coach myself whenever I was trying to get into that rushed, urgency place. [Jamie Berman ] And I wasn't really allowing, you know? And, So that's… yeah, that's kind of the process. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] That I went through. [Nicky Bevan] It's… yeah, and isn't it incredible how when we kind of… Release… our intentions to the universe, to God. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Whatever terminology we want to use. How much courage. [Nicky Bevan] That takes, you know, like… Having… leaning into trusting our intuition, that part of us that has a very solid knowing. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] That quite often doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever. Having the courage to actually lean into that is huge, and I think some people sit there going. [Nicky Bevan] Oh, manifestation is this, like, beautiful, zen… But it, like, sitting on my sofa in rainbows and daisies, and it's really fucking not, like… [Jamie Berman ] Yes! Yep. [Nicky Bevan] You know, you get this intuitive hit, and it makes no logical sense, and so then learning that trust and. [Nicky Bevan] Surrendering and… working with the impatience and. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Letting it all unfold in the time it's supposed to, as opposed to our ego's, no, no, no, I should have had it, and I should have had it by then. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah, it's a different level of hard, right? It takes emotional resilience, which I know you are masterful at. It really… it's a different kind of heart. It's not the hard where you're grinding and trying to force things into a box, but it's the heart of, like, you have to learn how to trust when you don't see evidence of it working. [Nicky Bevan] Is a real challenge, I find. Yes, yes. [Nicky Bevan] Yes. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yes. [Jamie Berman ] You have to listen to that very subtle whisper over the really loud, primitive brain that's trying to tell you to hurry and do it like someone else, and someone else is going faster, and you're doing it wrong, and what's wrong with you, right? [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] God is a skill that… it takes some developing. I will never say it's just completely easy all the time, but it's 100% worth it, and I think that's where the quantum leaps actually end up happening, and all the beauty and up, you know. [Jamie Berman ] It happens over time, it's not linear, it's not right away, but I know for sure that's how I've been able to create. [Jamie Berman ] So many incredible dreams that I once thought was completely impossible. It's because of that skill that I built up of trusting, and it just… doesn't seem to get too much easier, because I've been going through it this, I told you, this summer, as I've been kind of fussy, like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Whole big identity shift, lots of changes happening in my life, lots of manifestations coming to life, but. [Jamie Berman ] Wow, I was in it, and I'm just like, wow, it just… it's not that I guess. [Jamie Berman ] It gets easier in the sense that you can trust it, because you're like, I've been here before. [Jamie Berman ] I know I could trust it, but it's still… you have to work it, you have to work on it. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. And I think… Yeah, I think the reason it gets easier is because you've been through the process and you know there's an outcome. [Jamie Berman ] So I completely agree with you. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] But when you're going through something for the first time, and you don't see the evidence, and you don't see the money in your bank account. [Nicky Bevan] You're thinking, this is just woo rubbish. That's… that's when it's… That's when it's challenging. And you're right, the hard is very different, like. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] I've heard from you in stories that you've told. I could work hours. [Nicky Bevan] Like, back in the day. If I wanted more money, I just worked hours. Like, and it was nothing to get up at, like, 4 o'clock and still be working at midnight. I could do that. I could do hard hours. [Jamie Berman ] Yep. Yep. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah… [Nicky Bevan] but that isn't actually what makes money! And this whole identity shift of going. [Nicky Bevan] Whoa, hang on a minute. There are people out there that are working a lot of hours, and they don't have money. [Jamie Berman ] Yep. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] You know, they have money, but they might not have abundance and overflow. And then there's people out there that are working, like. [Nicky Bevan] Nothing, and have millions, so it can't be this society's perceived, you have to work hard in that. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] You have to grind and have… hours behind you. [Jamie Berman ] Totally. [Nicky Bevan] So, that hard is different, but it's… I think that's what I find the most challenging to overcome, is that my hours don't equate to the amount. [Nicky Bevan] That comes in the… in the… into my bank. And this has been one of the biggest unsettling shifts. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] That I've had to sit with. Because… it makes no sense compared to what society teaches us. [Jamie Berman ] 100%, totally. And, you know, I was taught… I mean, I come from, you know, kind of small town in the Midwest, middle class, you know, family, where. [Jamie Berman ] I was taught also it's about hard work, that's what we value, and that is… hard work is a beautiful thing. I do love working, too. It's not like I don't love it, but you are so right in that. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] You know, many of us learned that if you want to make more money, you work harder, or you put more effort in, and it's our effort that is the value. And we can't really make money if it's easy, right? Then it was the discomfort of, like, well, wait, I love this work, I love coaching, I can do this for free, who am I to make a lot of money doing it? Who am I to, like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah… [Nicky Bevan] Yes. [Jamie Berman ] Charge for this. I love it. I would do this for free, and so I felt uncomfortable making money when something was actually fun and joyful and easy and. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Right? Yeah, yeah. [Jamie Berman ] A gift of mine, right? And so, that was a whole mind shift, too, that I really had to work through and, like, just really question those beliefs that it's… that you have to work hard, and it's only deserving of money if it's hard, and you know, because, I mean, just looking at my life, I started to realize, wait, but I've been work… like you, I've been working really hard since I was, like, 11 years old, you know? I mean, I wanted to start working the minute that I was allowed to, you know? And then I started my babysitting business, and. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah, babysitting, yeah, yeah. [Jamie Berman ] I mean, even in college, I had, like, 3 jobs at the mall, like, 3 different jobs. I have had so many jobs, because I would just work, work, work. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah, me too. [Jamie Berman ] And I loved creating money and being able to create the life that I wanted to, but at that age, you know, you think, oh, just pick up a job and do it, and, you know. [Jamie Berman ] But then, you get to a certain point where you're like, well, that's… I want abundance beyond that, and that's where you have to start questioning that whole theory of just working more hours, working harder. [Jamie Berman ] Grinding it out, and in business, you really have to question that, because… that leads to burnout, and it leads to misalignment, and the thing with business that I've learned is that it is such a creative endeavor that you need your brain to have some stillness and creativity and. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yes. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] Space to hear your intuition so that you can actually make the best decisions. [Jamie Berman ] And when you're grinding it out like that, it's very hard to hear. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, it really is. [Jamie Berman ] So, that's why, like. I realized that was the thought pattern getting in the way for me as well. [Jamie Berman ] You know, and now I work with a lot of clients and help them break through that. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, in your experience, and your group program is The Money Manifestation Movement, which we will put all the links to in the show notes, but. [Nicky Bevan] What do you think is the most common. [Nicky Bevan] Block that you see when people are trying to make money. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah, I think there's a couple, but I would say the most common is just believing. [Jamie Berman ] It's like an identity thing, right? It's like… I'm not the person who can make money like that. [Nicky Bevan] [Nicky Bevan] Yeah… [Jamie Berman ] Right? It's they don't believe in themselves. That's another way to put it. It's like, oh yeah, that's good for you, but for me, it doesn't work like that. Or, who am I to do that? That's a big block, is just… not believing that they can. Like, whenever I state, like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] How would it feel to make a million dollars, right? Or how would it feel to make 10 million? It's, like, the identity shift is like, you know, they need an identity shift to get there, or they're like, whoa, how the heck would I ever do that? How would someone like me, that's not for someone like me. So I would say that's… Definitely a biggie, but also, I think what blocks a lot of people from making money on top of that is this… [Nicky Bevan] [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Patterning of… this belief system of, you know, I'm a bad person if I make money, you know? Like, taught that, like, the people that make a lot of money are greedy, or they're bad people, or who am I to, or I'm taking it away from others if I'm making money, right? Like, if I make more than that person. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah… [Jamie Berman ] Who doesn't have any is gonna suffer, and it's like, that's actually not true. Like. [Jamie Berman ] They're gonna suffer regardless of if you make money or not, but if you make money, you have a much higher chance of impacting other people's lives than if you stay small. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah… [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Because you think it's… like, money just doesn't work that way, where it's, like, this… pie, and it's concrete, and if I take a slice, someone else has less. It doesn't work that way, but I see that's what we… many of us grew up believing, is that if we have more, others have less, and that's wrong, and we should limit it, we should really. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Just have enough to get by. so that's definitely a biggie, too. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. And I really feel like what the world needs right now is more loving, soulful. [Nicky Bevan] Powerful people earning money, because. He's start, like, and you taught it, I'm sure it was in one of your podcast episodes, I can't remember which one. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Because I listen to all of them. But. You said money's like Wi-Fi. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] It's not the Wi-Fi that's bad, it's how you use Wi-Fi. [Nicky Bevan] That makes it bad. So, Wi-Fi's neutral. Money's neutral, it just enhances your natural-ness. So if you're loving, and, generous, money is gonna help you to be more loving and to be more generous, and oh my god, the world needs more… [Nicky Bevan] Loving people making money. [Jamie Berman ] Oh, it's so true. I mean, and I see this firsthand. I just had a client that. [Jamie Berman ] She just started hitting a million in her business, and what I'm seeing her do is unbelievable. She is, like, raising so much money for her community. [Jamie Berman ] And for, like, her kids… it's just unbelievable to see when a heart-centered. [Nicky Bevan] Whoa. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] One man. And obviously, hearts are men, or any gender could be this way, but I just believe that, like. [Nicky Bevan] Yes, yeah. [Jamie Berman ] If the wor- more women were making money in this world, it would be a different place, just seeing what women do with money, and how they… circulate it is so powerful, and we actually played a game in the money manifestation movement this past month that was a prosperity game where it was like, okay. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] I'm giving you $10 million today, what are we doing with this, right? And we played with it, and I saw the way that these heart-centered women want to circulate that money, and giving a portion of it to this cause, or this, and I'm like, wow, like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Man, if we all let ourselves, you know, the people, your listeners, I know they're heart-centered, it's like, God, what a ripple effect. What a difference that could make in the world. [Nicky Bevan] Yes! [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yes. [Jamie Berman ] And it's not just about giving it all away, it's also about having it and holding it and having some of that abundance for yourself, and letting yourself receive. So, I'm a big fan of. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] You know, really allocating in 3 different buckets. You want to focus on. [Jamie Berman ] Having and letting yourself hold some. On, of course, the circulating and spending on your needs, and multiplying, and, you know, also. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Giving, and, giving to causes that matter. It's just… It's amazing what can happen. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. And another thing that makes me really passionate about making money is that I've got two boys, they're 14 and 15. [Nicky Bevan] From a woman perspective, I am the most influential woman in their life, currently. [Jamie Berman ] - [Nicky Bevan] And I want them to grow up in a world where a woman can make a fuckton of money if she wants to. If she wants to. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yep. [Nicky Bevan] They can stay at home with the kids if they want to. If they want to go out and make a fuckton of money, so can they, but I want them to have that choice, and I want them to see that that is possible for women to do. [Jamie Berman ] Yep. [Jamie Berman ] Yes. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And that starts with me! That doesn't start with them when they get adults and they start earning money. This starts with me now, and figuring out our. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Limiting beliefs around, like, that we've been conditioned around in it, women, and… I don't even, like you said, it's not that men can't make… [Nicky Bevan] Like, money in a loving, soulful way, but… Generally, women have been conditioned to stay small, to stay quiet. We couldn't even have a bank account until, like, the 70s without a male signature. [Jamie Berman ] 100%, yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And yet, that shift. If there's a… from the financial advisor friends that I have, there's a real shift happening, and a lot more women are stepping into wealth. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] But we haven't really been educated around wealth, because that was the man's job. I mean, it's not in our house. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Bless Johnny to bits. He actually hasn't got a clue about our outgoings. We sit down every now and again, he's like, what? But he just has… He's not exposed to it, I manage all of it. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] but it's just… isn't it just so fascinating still how… There is that kind of… No, I can't do it, kind of, sense. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Of course, and if you think about. The generations before us. I mean, like you said, I don't even think women were allowed to get business loans until 1986. I mean. [Jamie Berman ] That's wild! A woman couldn't get a credit card on her own until, like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] I don't know, what was it, 76, something like that, right? So, like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, yeah. [Jamie Berman ] It's like, of course we didn't learn this! Of course our patterning is going to say we can't do it, or who am I to do it? It's like, that is what we saw, that's also what we came in with. Like, DNA-wise, as a female, there is that hereditary DNA that gets passed down, so… you know, it's like, if we want to shift it, just like you're doing, I'm doing, it just takes some effort, and it takes some looking within, challenging our beliefs. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] And you can reprogram it, right? You can be the first to learn these skills, to learn how to do it in a way where you can also. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Have that along with your other values in life, and it's not an either-or, it's… it can be an and if you want. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. And I think that's where the courage comes back in, because when I think about stepping into my feminine power. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Which is something that I'm exploring massively at the moment. There is so much fear. [Nicky Bevan] That comes up with that power, because we were burnt… I was burnt at the stake for it. [Nicky Bevan] Once upon a time, you know? And Johnny will often say to me, my husband, for those of you that don't know. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] in a really compassionate way, he will go, but when a… when are women gonna stop telling that story? I'm like, but this isn't just past generations, it's even happening. [Nicky Bevan] In parts of the world today, women don't have a voice. [Jamie Berman ] Yes. [Nicky Bevan] They don't have an opinion, they don't have options, they don't have choices, they don't have education. So, this isn't like it's… a past thing. It is still happening. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And… it takes. Us, you, I, all the other gorgeous listeners. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] To actually be willing to start stepping into that power as women, because… If we keep telling that story, we will keep. [Nicky Bevan] Keep it going. Yeah, exactly. But the courage… along with compassion for that part of us that is so frightened. [Jamie Berman ] Living it, totally. [Nicky Bevan] I think they're the two together. I think when we talk about rewiring our brain and getting comfortable feeling uncomfortable and building that emotional resilience. [Nicky Bevan] I think the only way that journey happens. It's gonna be uncomfortable, but in the most comfortable way is through kindness and through compassion, and through love, and that. [Jamie Berman ] Yes. [Nicky Bevan] Change in that internal dialogue towards ourselves, and towards others. I think that's the key, and it takes courage, it takes a lot of courage. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. It really does. It really does. And having support is so helpful, too, on top of that, right? It's like that own self-talk is. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Beyond powerful, and learning to cultivate inner compassion, which is another skill that. [Jamie Berman ] Most of us have to learn. yeah, and for me, on top of that, having support and someone to hold my hand as I was… [Nicky Bevan] Yes. [Jamie Berman ] Questioning it, or feeling scared of stepping into my power, or the feminine energy, like, having someone holding my hand, like, Jamie, no, we got this! It's so… like, they believed in me before I believed in myself, and that was… Absolutely everything, and I think that's the beauty of what we do as coaches or therapists do, or, you know, just those people in our lives that, can hold space in that way. It's just so unbelievably healing. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, yeah. Yes. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. And the people that are willing to see you in your new identity. Because we've all got our friends, like, most people, we've all got friends, we've got family, but they see us in our old identity, and if you're… [Jamie Berman ] - Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Thinking about stepping into a new one, they might not be the most supportive, because they will have fears. [Nicky Bevan] They won't want you to change, because they love you for who you are. They don't see. [Jamie Berman ] Yep. [Nicky Bevan] They see your brilliance, but they don't… see the visions that we can see, right? So, I think that is one of the most powerful things about having a coach, having a mentor, having… [Jamie Berman ] Totally. [Nicky Bevan] Someone who's going to see your brilliance, who can… Like you said, hold that belief and hold that vision for you at a time when you're just like, I can't do this anymore! And like, yes, you can. Yes, you can. And… [Jamie Berman ] Yeah, yes. Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Guiding you through that is just so incredible, isn't it? It is. It is. And we get to do it. Aren't we lucky? [Jamie Berman ] It really is. Such a gift. I know. [Nicky Bevan] Are we lucky? So, tell us then a little bit about, so I know you're currently living. [Nicky Bevan] Probably the biggest manifestation that you've created in your life so far. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah! [Nicky Bevan] Maybe not the last manifestation, but certainly a huge one. Do you want to tell us a little bit about that? Because I've just loved the journey so, so much. [Jamie Berman ] Oh my gosh, it's been a journey. So, I have always had a dream of moving to Maui and Hawaii. whenever I was 11 years old, I was lucky enough to go there. [Jamie Berman ] with my dad, he was a pilot, so he brought us there, and I fell in love. The minute I got on that land, you know how there's just those places where. [Jamie Berman ] I don't know if everyone has this, but I've heard it from time to time. People just say, it feels like home, like, this is it. This is where I feel like home. [Nicky Bevan] Oh, yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] That's what I felt. I was like, there is a spiritual energy here that feels like my soul's calling. I don't know, I'm supposed to be here. Not that I could, like. [Jamie Berman ] Stated in that way at 11, but it was a feeling that I just knew this was for me, so I have always wanted to live there. [Nicky Bevan] Yes. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] but my first, you know, my first dream was actually, you know, moving to LA from the Midwest, and I've lived that out, but I've always had a dream of moving to Maui eventually, and… so I've been manifesting it for a long time, and, you know, when I married my husband, he is a songwriter, musician, and he was saying, no, Jamie, like, I don't think there's a chance we're gonna live there, I'm sorry, maybe one day we'll have a second home, but, like. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] I gotta be here for the industry, and I told him, no, I'm manifesting that one day you're gonna be able to move there and live out your dreams, but live there too. [Jamie Berman ] Anyways, fast forward, I've been holding this vision for so long, and it is officially unfolding, and so we found our dream home, and we're moving there next month. [Jamie Berman ] And I'm just couldn't be more excited. It's just a whole new chapter, it feels like… so many things are kind of like… shifting up in my… [Nicky Bevan] So good. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, well, and what's fascinating is we were saying just before you came on, how this summer, like, the most incredible things have been happening, and you've been so ill. [Jamie Berman ] I don't know, it just feels like a little bit of a reinvention, in a way, of, like, a restart. [Jamie Berman ] Of kind of shedding old things and bringing in the new, and it's super exciting. [Jamie Berman ] but it's been a lot, too. [Jamie Berman ] Yes, and it's wild, right? Because I'm like, wait, I'm finally living into my dream, and it's happening, and. [Nicky Bevan] So poorly! [Jamie Berman ] Never get sick. I am so lucky in that maybe I'll get a cold here and there every other year, but I am someone who's always like, I just had this thought, I have a great immune system, I don't get sick, I don't catch things, I never had COVID. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Up until this summer, and… all of a sudden, like, this all started happening. We put our house on the market in LA. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] We started traveling over to Maui, looking at homes. And, it just kicked up a lot of stuff for me internally, and. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah, like, I don't know what happened, but my immune system was like, what is going on? I got a cold for 6 weeks, couldn't stop coughing, that finally went away, and then I got COVID after 5 years of not having COVID. [Jamie Berman ] Twice. I got it, got rid of it, and then it came back two weeks later as, like, COVID rebound, so I just feel like, what is going on? [Nicky Bevan] That's so crazy. [Nicky Bevan] Isn't it? [Jamie Berman ] And I do know, like, luckily, after having done this work for a long time, I know about these sneaky upper limits, and it's when, like, finally you're living into your dream. Finally, good things are happening, and it's almost like your subconscious is like. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] Wait, what? This is new? Oh no, like, we can't have it this good, it can't be that easy, and like… you know, I learned about this from Gay Hendrix, that oftentimes that's when things happen where, like, oh, now we get sick, let's bring us back down to our natural kind of state. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] And so, I didn't give in to it all, but I've had to, like, hold space for a lot of… sickness, a lot of just… it felt like a rollercoaster, emotionally, and [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, yeah. [Jamie Berman ] So, I really feel like, wow, I have so much compassion for my clients who are living into these things, because I'm, like, living into it, too, and it just felt like, to an extreme. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] but luckily, I understand what's going on, so it's like, even though it's not fun being in the middle of it, I can hold space for it, I can understand there's a lot of things shifting, I'm finally, like, living into one of the biggest dreams I've had. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] And, you know, there's been a lot, too, where I thought our house would sell faster than it did, but I've had to hold space for a miracle there. [Jamie Berman ] And I'm still holding space for that, because we haven't sold our house yet in LA. But, Yeah, and yet, like, once we finally found the house, I, you know, in Maui, I was like, oh, like, this stuff works, oh my gosh! Because, you know, it's better than anything I could have imagined, and even. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah! Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Like, not the easiest thing to find, and it took some patience and trust and… Going through a challenging summer, there it happened, and it's like everything, and more than I had dreamed of. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah… It's so incredible. And it's… [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] What I love is a lot of the time when you come across, like. [Nicky Bevan] Teachers and mentors, they're already through it, they're out the other side. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And you kind of sometimes sit there going. And they must be a unicorn. Now, obviously, you are a unicorn, but… [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. We're all unicorns, though. [Nicky Bevan] We're all unicorns! But… Having… having actually witnessed and been with you going through it has just been the most incredible… [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Inspiring… force for me, because I'm like. [Nicky Bevan] If Jamie can do it, I can do it. You know, I'm like, no, if Jamie… if Jamie used to work all the hours. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And she said it, I can do it. And it's been… It's just been so lovely to have known you through that. [Nicky Bevan] Process, and it not have been perfect. Because I think that's another misconception, is that when we reach our dream, whatever that looks for us. [Jamie Berman ] Totally. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Life is going to be incredible, and yet… Lo and behold, it's still the shit 50-50, like, some things are great, and some things really aren't. [Jamie Berman ] Yes! It's so true! It's so true! 100%, and I really… [Jamie Berman ] Try to be super honest. Like, that's a huge value of mine. I'm like, I want to be honest in my journey. I want to talk about it while I'm going through it. I don't want to wait till the end, because we forget all the hard. Like, when we get… it's kind of like having a baby, I'm sure, you know, where it's like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Oh my gosh, that's a lot, and when you're giving birth, I've heard a lot of… I've never had a baby, but I've heard people say, I'm never having another kid! And then you get on the other side of it, and it's like. [Nicky Bevan] I was fine. [Jamie Berman ] Well, and I think it was great, it was a beautiful birth. It was hard, but, like, we forget, right? And that's the same on the other side of our manifestations. We forget, we're like. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah… [Jamie Berman ] Oh, yeah, making that first 100K was easy, and then, you know… But, the truth is, that's why I like to be honest in the middle of it, because you do have to, like, really learn these skills of emotional resilience and holding space for yourself, and still trusting and holding the vision, even if it seems like it's not happening. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, and then you realize it's not… [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, it's incredible. And also, what you touched on there is the identity shift. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] I think… I've been through… you've… I mean, you've coached me through some identity shifts. [Nicky Bevan] And I think that's a very uncomfortable process to go through as well, and there's a real grief attached to letting go of who you were. [Nicky Bevan] And I'm about, like, I'm kind of going through another one, and I know my husband is going through a huge identity shift at the moment, and. [Nicky Bevan] Just… I'm able to sort of support him going through it, because I've been through a couple now, but… That always fascinates me, how… [Nicky Bevan] Giving ourselves the space to kind of grieve what was. Banking that version of you that got you here. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And then being willing to kind of embrace the next one. [Nicky Bevan] Is… is a process, and I know we've done it together where, you know, you have, like, a little ceremony, and you write it down, and you release it, or you burn it, and… And that's a really beautiful way to do it, but it's… [Nicky Bevan] It's amazing how the brain is quite resistant to those sorts of shifts, just purely because it's unfamiliar, and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Even though we know that the manifestation or the dream coming true is going to be incredible. [Jamie Berman ] Totally. Yep. [Nicky Bevan] I think it's Dr. Joe Dispenser says, your body gets addicted to the emotions that you're most used to, so… actually learning to expand your capacity to feel excitement, to feel success, to feel sad, to release grief, you know, to be impatient and realize it's not gonna kill you. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yes. [Jamie Berman ] Yes. It's so good, and I'm so glad we're talking about this, because again, I think it's something we don't hear often, is that a lot of times. [Nicky Bevan] That is the resilience, isn't it? [Jamie Berman ] Like, on the other side of your dreams coming true, there's some stuff to process there. It's not always just, I stepped into it and it's. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Amazing! It's like, it does kick up some stuff, and sometimes there's post-traumatic. [Jamie Berman ] Growth, and we have to learn… like, I think it's just helpful to know that that happens, or it can happen, so that you can have some context, and you're like, not like, oh my god, I got this thing, what is going on? Why am I going nuts, right? I actually got it, and understand, no, you're not going crazy. [Jamie Berman ] This oftentimes is a part of stepping into or expanding into a new identity, or into a new dream, is that it's gonna bring up stuff. It is new. [Jamie Berman ] And it can be very, very uncomfortable. But don't run away from it. You have to lean into it. And that's why it's really helpful to just ground yourself and remind yourself, I'm safe. [Nicky Bevan] Yes. [Jamie Berman ] And do the things that ground you, and come back to, it's all is well, right? It is safe. There's really no problem to solve. [Nicky Bevan] Yes. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] And don't let your brain go 10 steps ahead, you know, or don't go, oh no, what if I regret this? Right? All that kind of stuff. You have to really, like, practice coming back to the present and grounding. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] That's personally what I have found is the most helpful in those states. [Jamie Berman ] So, it's interesting how there's an evolution to growing into something, and while we're almost, like, waiting or being patient on our dream to happen, that has its own. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Opportunities for growth. And then on the other side of getting what you want, there's also opportunities for growth, right? And, [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Not that both are totally intense all the time, like, not to scare people, but I just like to share that because… I see it all the time, it's common, and there's a way to work with it. [Nicky Bevan] [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that's one of the things I really appreciated, actually, being part of your community and seeing the higher earners. [Nicky Bevan] And seeing them with all their drama, and I'm like, oh, it never actually goes away. [Jamie Berman ] Yep. [Nicky Bevan] And I can remember, in the last retreat. One of the girls was getting coached, and she's like, oh my god! [Nicky Bevan] I only made £6,000 last year, or $6,000! And I need to be… and I look… I actually burst out laughing, I went, are you kidding me? Like, it is my dream to make $6,000 in a month. And you're like, oh, that's not enough! I've only just done. I'm like, what are you talking about? [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. It's true! Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] And it was such… It was such a beautiful opportunity for me to go. [Nicky Bevan] It never… that… that never… it never changes. The money… the amount of money that you do or don't earn. [Nicky Bevan] Doesn't stop your brain's drama. [Jamie Berman ] No. No. It can just show up with a bigger number. I tell people this all the time, they don't believe me until they do it, and then they're like, Jamie, you were right! [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, exactly. [Jamie Berman ] So coming up, I'm like, at least you know how to work with them now. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, exactly, exactly. And that has been really wonderful to see. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Because then when it happens to me, I'm like, oh no, of course, because this is what happened to so-and-so, and of course, because that's what… So when you have that community around you, which is so vital, I think, to be… to surround yourself with people. [Nicky Bevan] That are creating, or have created, what you want to create, regardless of what that is. [Nicky Bevan] Is so powerful, isn't it? Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Totally. It is. I completely agree, yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, so thank you for bringing the money manifestation to my world. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah, it's amazing. Oh my god, thank you for being in it! You've been such an amazing. [Jamie Berman ] Part of it. I mean, everyone loves you, and everyone looks up to you as well, because you are so powerful, and… you're just such a light, and you're an. [Nicky Bevan] Thank you. Aww, thank you. [Jamie Berman ] Writable coach. Incredible coach. And so… It's an honor to have you in there. [Nicky Bevan] Thank you. Thank you. Well, this is the identity that I'm also… [Nicky Bevan] Kind of stepping into. I mean, I… yeah, I hear this. [Jamie Berman ] I want to hear. [Nicky Bevan] People tell me this a lot, how there's a power about me, and there's an energy about me, and of course, I don't… I haven't seen it. [Nicky Bevan] And so that's what I'm kind of… it… it's feeling uncomfortable, but it's getting so much more familiar. [Nicky Bevan] And, but I'm only here because of you, so… back at you, babe, because it's so good. It's so good. [Jamie Berman ] For the best, Nikki. I'm so excited for you. [Nicky Bevan] Yes, me too. Is there anything that you want to say, Jamie, that we haven't spoke about or touched on? [Jamie Berman ] Good question. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] I can't think of anything specifically. Is there anything that you feel. [Jamie Berman ] Your listeners might be questioning right now, or might be wondering, given what we talked about, or questions that tend to come up. [Jamie Berman ] With your people that we could dive into. [Nicky Bevan] Yes. I think, having listened to this conversation, more people are going to be thinking, where do I start? [Nicky Bevan] Like, what… if they've never even heard of manifestation before, like, what even is it? [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] didn't know I could do it around money. Now, obviously, the first puts of call will either be to check you out and come to the manifestation, or have a conversation with me. That's incredible. But if they're not quite ready to take that step. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yep. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] What do you think would be the first, like, easy step for someone who wants to explore manifestation, particularly around money might be? [Jamie Berman ] Totally. 100%. So, I do have a completely free workbook that is, like. [Nicky Bevan] Brilliant. [Jamie Berman ] Diving into the very beginning of manifestation, and how you can actually just go practice it. It is a journal, it's gonna ask you a couple questions. [Jamie Berman ] That are going to help you understand what manifestation is and how to start practicing it. So, I will give you that link, so if anybody wants it, they can grab it. It's completely free. [Nicky Bevan] - Yes, please. [Jamie Berman ] A lot of my people have loved it. I've had it out there for years, and it has still been the thing that people are like, I still use that thing, I got it for free, and I love it! So I would say. [Jamie Berman ] We can… I'll definitely link that up, but I would say the first step is. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Actually, to let your yourself. Dive into the emotion of desire. [Jamie Berman ] I think a lot of women don't do that enough, or they don't… they just think, well, I couldn't have it, or it's wrong for me to desire things, and I think we want to start by, like, letting go of that idea that it's wrong to desire things. [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] And let yourself start dreaming. That's always step one, is just… If I could have anything I wanted, what might that look like? And some of the questions I like to ask, what is… what am I here to do? [Nicky Bevan] [Jamie Berman ] Right? What do I feel like my soul really wants to experience in this lifetime, right? Like, if I were to create a bucket list, what are the 5 things that I'd want to experience? What feels like something that I'm here to do, or that I really want? [Jamie Berman ] And to start getting curious with yourself, because we are all so unique, and we have different, unique desires, different unique expressions, so no two people are going to be wanting to manifest the exact same life. [Jamie Berman ] But it's so fun when you can start diving into you. And one of the things that I told you that I started asking myself is, what's the most Jamie business ever? What's the most Jamie life ever? [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] And I just started getting curious. It wasn't, like, super natural for me initially, but I just started making bucket lists for life, or lists of, like, what I would want to create, what I would want to do. [Jamie Berman ] And you have to know, you don't know how this is gonna manifest, just pretend you don't have to know how, because you don't, but start leaning into desire. That's gonna be number one. [Nicky Bevan] Yes. [Nicky Bevan] That is so good. Jamie, you've always, spoke about loads of different books. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] To read, and there are millions of them, and… we could go into that, but we are getting close to time. We want to keep chatting. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yep. Yep. [Nicky Bevan] I read one book I… I've just started reading, and I don't know that I've heard you mention it, is the Napoleon Hill's Think and Get Rich. [Jamie Berman ] I have read it, yes, yes, amazing. [Nicky Bevan] So the… yeah, so this was apparently a really, really old book. Like, he literally wrote this. [Jamie Berman ] Yep. It's OG. I mean, it is one of the most foundational manifestation money books. I read it when I was, like, just moved out to LA, and I was 24, I think. I was, like, listening to the Audible. Yeah, 100%. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] So I've literally just started reading it. And it just sums up, that is the first step. You have to know… [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] You have to know what you want. Like, and for some people, they're like, I don't know what I want. That's rubbish. Put that sentence aside, because that's not true, you've just been conditioned to not look at what you want. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] because I heard when I was growing up, my mum was like a tut-tut-tut, I want, never get. So I was like, I can't possibly explore wanting something, because that's… naughty, in some way. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] but actually, our higher wisdom knows everything about us, so that desire… That desire is the first step. We have to know what we're calling in, and quite specifically. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yep. Exactly. [Nicky Bevan] Not just, I want more money, because like you say, well, okay, and I'll pick up a penny on the… like, I find 10B on the floor or something. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah, exactly. [Nicky Bevan] But that desire is key, isn't it? And being willing to explore it. [Jamie Berman ] It really is. Yeah, and I think around money specifically, too, that was something I never thought about. I would say, oh, I want to be rich, or I want more money, but, like, what does that mean? [Nicky Bevan] Yep. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Right? And it was when I started getting specific that things actually started happening, right? It's whenever I started getting more specific about it, and let yourself desire what you want, right? Like, what if I could have the amount of money that I wanted? What would that be for me, you know? And… It's a powerful place to go. You may have to clean up some beliefs in between, like you said. It might bring up some stuff, but that's where you can, you know, do some inner coaching work, or get coached on it, get supported through that, because. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah. Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah, you gotta be willing to lean into your desires. That's… Yeah, powerful. [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, absolutely. And I can remember the month that I did make… well, I ended up actually making 7K profit. [Nicky Bevan] And I did nothing. Different. Like, I… and it was actually quite a quiet month, and literally all I was doing was connecting to Source, and I can remember saying to you. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] I do this every day, I imagine this beautiful golden light, and it comes down over my head, and… It goes out my hands in ribbons, and I just imagine… [Nicky Bevan] I just imagine that abundance, imagine that. And then random shit happens that you have no… [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. Yes. [Jamie Berman ] Yes! It's wild. Miracles are real, thoughts become things, right? I was really seeing evidence of that with my house that we just manifested in Maui, because what we need is so specific, and it's a very tiny island, and… [Nicky Bevan] Yeah, I'm like, it just… fascinates me! Yeah. [Nicky Bevan] I know! [Nicky Bevan] Yes. Yes. [Jamie Berman ] Whoa, it was wild. Yeah, it took some patience, but… It's amazing! Write it down! [Nicky Bevan] Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Jamie, thank you so, so much for coming the speaking to me. I really appreciate your time, and your knowledge, and just you being in my world is just so incredible. Thank you so much for being on our planet. [Jamie Berman ] Yeah. [Jamie Berman ] Oh my gosh. [Nicky Bevan] like we said, we will put all the show notes so that you can link up with Jamie, go and check her out on Instagram, because she will be sharing at some point your dream home, although, like, I want to see the pictures. [Nicky Bevan] Like, now. I don't want to be waiting. I want to see some pictures. [Jamie Berman ] I will, promise. I'll send them to you. [Nicky Bevan] And, yeah, everybody get manifesting, start stepping into your desires. Be willing to dream, I think, is just incredible. [Jamie Berman ] It's the best gift you can give yourself. Yep. [Nicky Bevan] Really is. Thank you, Jamie, I love you so much. [Jamie Berman ] I love you, it was an honor to be here, thank you so much. [Nicky Bevan] Thank yo