Harrison Orr (00:13.43)
As men, we love solving problems. The problem is we're often trying to solve and fix the wrong thing when it comes to our wife.
Harrison Orr (00:28.568)
You're listening to the Be Better Podcast. I'm Harrison Or, and I went from a reactive nice guy on the brink of divorce to leading a marriage I'm proud of that's full of love and fulfillment. Now I help men to do the same in far less time and pain than it took me. Now, how many times have you been in an not even an argument, just a a conversation with your wife? And you've she's expressed something that to you felt like a problem, and you've done what
Every well-intended male would naturally do, and you've offered a solution. Why don't you do this? Have you thought about this? What about this? Or I could just do this? Thinking that the solution is what she wants from you right now. And maybe it was met with an eye roll or a or you're not even listening, or some some level of feedback that basically told you wrong.
That's not what she's looking for. That's a horrible idea, whatever it was. And maybe she just walked off. Maybe it resulted in the end of the conversation or some escalation, whatever it was. And you're left more confused than fucking ever. You're like, you had a problem, I gave you a solution. What's the big deal? Like, what's wrong with you? Now, here's the problem. Now, as as illogical as this will seem to our
Our male logic minded brain, our feminine partner is not always looking for a solution in those moments. She is not always looking for us to solve any of her problems, which is unfortunate because as men, that's how we get a lot of our worth, right? We we take the stress off our partner, we solve all her problems, and that makes us that feels good.
To us, like to to to be problem solvers. That's how we get our our worth, right? But the frustrating part for a lot of men is that's not what she wants. And so this is gonna be a shorter episode than usual because I don't think it needs a huge amount of time to cover. But the real problem, like this is this is your your your task.
Harrison Orr (02:48.46)
For the next time this comes up is to identify the real problem to solve. Right? What is the real solution right now? Because giving her a solution to the problem is not working. So maybe consider this, you've identified the wrong problem or the wrong the long the wrong solution.
What if?
The solution that you've given is not what's needed. What if there's another need, maybe one that's not being verbally communicated, that needs solving?
Harrison Orr (03:31.458)
Because our feminine partner is a predominantly emotional being. They have emotional needs that precede the verbal communication. That's why it can seem and please don't take this as as me preaching. I fucked this up for absolute years. I had no idea. I was like, I gave you a solution. What do you want? I did the thing that you asked me to. I did the thing. What's the problem? Why is it not making sense? I've
Let you make every single decision. You got what you wanted. Why are you not happy about this? Trust me, guys. I tried this. I I understand the frustration and I consider me sharing this wisdom, looking looking back to my former self to maybe if you have those levels of frustration or misunderstandings right now, that you can take those learnings without having to bash your head against a wall till you're bleeding and maybe learn from that.
The emotional need underneath sharing that.
Is one of connection. Like it's often her way of connecting, of bonding with you. And when we see that, when we can slow ourselves down enough, and this will this has served me massively in my relationship to slow things down in myself, and instead of jumping to addressing whatever the words are, slowing things down enough to ask myself.
What is the emotional need underneath this?
Harrison Orr (05:07.596)
And sometimes it'll be obvious. Sometimes a you know, if she's questioning me or if there's a like a a challenge maybe, like, she just wants reassurance. she's just looking for safety here. she just wants to know that I'm confident that I've got it, that I'll handle it so that she sh she can relax. Other times it's not so obvious. And that's where this framework comes massively in handy.
when you realize like, okay, the problem that she's talking to me about is probably not the problem to solve right now. There's an emotional need underneath that. And if you're not sure of what that is, the simple question, because I don't know about you, but I I hate trying to guess where my wife is at, because most of the time I get it wrong. And so I love to be told plain and simple, because then I can I can meet that need. I can do the thing.
Harrison Orr (06:02.136)
Babe, thank you for sharing that. I'm not quite sure what you want from me right now. Do you want to be hugged, helped, or heard? And then she will tell me exactly what she needs from me in that fucking moment and I can give it. If she just needs to be hugged, she just wants to be be held as she's sharing something stressful or she's upset about something. Maybe she just wants to be heard. She just wants to talk about her day, about her friend, about work, about whatever's
on her heart or on her mind right now and all I need to do is shut the fuck up, sit there and say like, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, that sucks. I'd be stressed out too. Whatever's appropriate to validate her experience. And that gives her exactly what she needs. And I know this sounds like contradictory to a logical brain. You're like, but I haven't solved anything. Like nothing has changed. What do you mean she she feels better? She feels like her problem solved. Like she hasn't done anything about it. Yeah.
That's not really a big deal. Like that's why women have you know, women are known for for for bitching, for drama, for gossip, for like sharing all those things, because they just talk. That's their version of of kind of getting it out, of of solving a problem, even though they don't do anything about it. It fulfills that need. When you jump in with a solution, it's it's frustrating. Like it gets met with well.
Did you even listen to me? Are you even here? Like that's not what I want. Like, think about it this way. I think we've all had this experience. And I've had this experience more than ever since becoming a parent. Every single parent you speak to has a fucking opinion on everything. have you tried this? Well, did you do this? And sure. They I'm not doubting that many of them are well intended. But there's also a lot of people where you look at and you're like,
I don't want my kid to turn out like you. So no thanks. Right? Not to be judgmental, of course, even though that's completely judgmental. But like when you get unsolicited advo advice, you just instantly tune out. Maybe you roll your eyes or you have to like consciously not roll your eyes to seem rude. But as soon as someone's giving you unsolicited advice, in your head you're like, Cool, I didn't ask you, shut the fuck up. Maybe it's not as harsh as that.
Harrison Orr (08:27.91)
You have your version of that. That's what's happening inside of her when you're giving a solution that she didn't ask for. And you might say, Well, she was bringing her problem to me. So she was inherently asking for a solution. No, she wasn't. She was bringing this to you because she wanted to share something. She wanted she she she wanted a need met from you. She wanted you to hear her. She wanted you to feel her. She wanted you to just be close to her, to share something that about her day. Right. It's also a bid for connection.
And then when you ask her, do you want to be hugged, helped, or heard? If she asks to be helped, like, yeah, I would really love your opinion on this. I would really love your your your insight, your your solution, your whatever it is, then amazing. Put your man hat back on and solve that, offer your insights, whatever. And doesn't mean she has to take it, but you gave her what she was looking for. It will make such a difference. And then over time.
With enough consistency, you start to then be so much more attuned to your partner to know what they're needing from you without you having to ask. You can get the sense of, she sounds really stressed out right now. She's a little bit, you know, she's a little stressed, she's little overwhelmed, she's talking pretty fast. Like I can see that she's in that reactive, stressed out state. Probably not open for
feedback right now. Probably not open for another perspective or a solution. Okay, cool. We can rule that one out. Okay, she's talking really fast. She's kind of going with it like da da da da da da da da da da da da da okay, just let her talk, let let all that come out. And then eventually she'll start to slow down and okay, cool. Maybe she s it seems like she needs a hug right now. And then you just pull her in. And then you let your nervous system regulate hers because you're grounded and calm.
She needs to cry, she can have a cry, she can just w her nervous system will match the frequency of yours, which is calm, grounded and present.
Harrison Orr (10:33.068)
That is one of the most underappreciated strengths of a man and of a regulated nervous system is to co-regulate the nervous systems of the ones around you, of your kids and your your wife. They you were probably told when your kids were first born, you know, skin to skin contact. Like you want your skin or your baby's skin and it you know, they they get the scent of you, they they connect with you, they do all those things. But also
They feel the energy and the frequency of your heartbeat and your nervous system. If you are calm and breathing nice and slow and just present, that signals safety to their tiny little nervous system.
And it's the exact same with your kids and with your wife.
Like with your kids, have you ever had one of your kids, you're they're c they're crying or they're they're upset about something and you just hold them and you breathe.
You stay nice and regulated, nice and present. And then you feel them start to to calm down too. They start to slow their breathing. If they're crying, they start to
Harrison Orr (11:57.122)
That that double inhale and that slow exhale, like their their nervous system is getting it out and they're slowing down.
Because they co they regulated to your nervous system. Because you were quote unquote that safe space for them right there.
Now that's fucking power. Right? That's true power as a husband, as a father, as a man, to be able to hold that energy for them and be safe for them, to bring them down.
Harrison Orr (12:33.182)
When you when you know when to use that, when you know when okay, I just go and hold your wife. Just bring her in for that nice long hug, you know, and I'm not talking a quick, you know, five second hug, hold it for a minute.
You actively like feel her relax in your arms. And that will do more than any amount of problem solving, any any script, any verbal communication you can have that will bond you and make her feel safe and secure more than anything else in the world. Especially for your wife who is a feeling based creature.
I don't I don't mean creatures in like a gremlin, creature is in like a being, I should say. Because she feels it. That's the big takeaway from this. Your your partner doesn't want to know that you heard her. She doesn't want to know that you see her. She wants to feel heard. She wants to feel seen. Feel validated. Feel like you give a fuck. And that comes from understanding her.
And understanding these needs. And this is an amazing place to get to because you get to feel like a fucking mind reader when you can s feel beneath the words, be attuned to her energy, and then go straight to that source.
And deliver that.
Harrison Orr (14:09.44)
And it'll do more for your relationship than any amount of scripts, conversations, lists, like whatever other tactics.
The art of knowing what your wife's ne needs without being told.
is one that has been hugely beneficial for my relationship. And not from a point of, you know, manipulation or control, but from from a place of serving. I know what she's got coming up. I know what's on her plate. Cool. I can do that. Or I can see how she is right now. Let me do this for her.
And I feel like that's what teamwork is as a married couple.
So if you're finding yourselves in the if you're finding yourself in those ruts or those repetitive situations where you're solving the wrong problem or you're not really understanding her needs.
Harrison Orr (15:07.978)
As you get better at slowing yourself down and being present, because if you're not present, you're not going to be able to be attuned to hers, like to her, to know what she needs. But as you're doing that for yourself, start with that triple H framework. Do you want to be hugged? Do you want to be helped? Do you want to be heard? And then you'll start to recognize patterns of, she's in this kind of state, she wants, she's going to need this. She's in that kind of state, she's going to want this. But it's so much easier. And it also
It's important you action it too. Right. I've spoken to quite a few people who like, you know, use questions like this, but then they kind of ignore them and it just seems like lip service. Like if you if she says she wants to be just heard, actually sit there and listen. Don't get your phone out. Don't be distracted and doing other shit. Actually sit there and actively listen.
Harrison Orr (16:02.7)
And it will do more than giving her a solution to a problem that wasn't that she wasn't bringing to you to solve. So I hope that helps you handle those the next moment with your wife. And instead of turning it into a moment of disconnect or an eye roll, into a moment of surprise and maybe connection.
So go and use it. Don't be sorry. Be better. Bye.
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