
Beyond the B: Latest on the B Corp Movement
Beyond the B provides an expert, insider's view of the B Corp Movement. Cohosts Emmy Allison (former Community Manager at B Lab) and Ryan Honeyman (Co-Author of The B Corp Handbook) from LIFT Economy facilitate an open and honest conversation about Certified B Corporations, advise companies on how to increase their impact, and provide a deep dive into the new B Corp standards that are shaping our community.
Episodes
32 episodes
Are B Corps Too 'Woke'? (Part 1 of 3, w/ Raj Aggarwal)
In this new three-part series, we examine the B Corp community’s evolving relationship with justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion (JEDI)—celebrating progress and grappling with some uncomfortable tensions that have emerged in recent years.<...
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Episode 31
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42:36

B Corps in Asia: Growth, Challenges, and Scaling Collective Impact
As the B Corp movement grows across Asia, leaders in Japan, China, and Singapore are finding creative ways to adapt global standards to local cultures, business norms, and social priorities. This episode explores the challenges and breakthrough...
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Episode 30
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1:08:58

Unresolved Tensions in B Corp’s “Big Tent” (w/ Erinch Sahan & Vincent Stanley)
In this episode, Ryan Honeyman is joined by Erinch Sahan (Doughnut Economics Action Lab) and Vincent Stanley (Patagonia) for a candid, thought-provoking conversation about the ongoing tensions within the B Corp movement. From Nespresso to Dr. B...
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Episode 29
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1:08:46

New B Corp Standards: Unpacking "Government Affairs and Collective Action" (w/ Grace Son)
In this episode, Grace Son, Senior Manager on the Standards Team at B Lab Global, unpacks the new Government Affairs and Collective Action (GACA) impact topic within B Lab’s updated standards. Drawing from her experience in finance and four yea...
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Episode 28
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57:51

Do People Care About B Corps? (w/ Charlotte Levitt & Michele Bradley)
B Lab has released its first-ever brand awareness report--providing valuable insights into the current state of recognition for B Corps worldwide. In this episode, we delve into the findings with two influential leaders from B Lab: Charlotte Le...
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Episode 27
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1:03:15

Nespresso's Side of the Story (w/ Lucy Bai)
Many people have an opinion about Nespresso becoming a Certified B Corporation. But very few have ever heard their side of the story. In this episode with Lucy Bai, Sustainability Manager for Nespresso US, we strive for a balance of genuine cur...
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Episode 26
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57:38

New B Corp Standards: First Impressions, Highlights, and Key Takeaways
The new B Corp standards have finally arrived! In this episode, Ryan Honeyman and Emmy Allison share their first impressions and key takeaways from the 1,130-page update. What’s changed? What’s stayed the same? And what does it all mean for com...
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Episode 25
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29:27

Last Call! Important v6 Standards Deadline
Last month, B Lab Global made an announcement that affects some small-to-medium existing B Corps. If your B Corp is due to submit for recertification between July 1 and December 31, 2025, and you would like to be evaluated under Version 6 (i.e....
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Episode 24
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36:33

B Corps, Global Policy, and Systemic Change (w/ Marcel Fukayama)
In this episode, we speak with Marcel Fukayama, co-founder of Din4mo and a key leader in the B Corp movement, to explore the evolving landscape of B Corps, the role of policy in shaping the movement, and the challenges and opportunities ahead.&...
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Episode 23
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56:35

🔥 B Corp Growth in the UK (w/ Chris Turner & Dyann Heward-Mills)
The B Corp movement in the UK is growing at an unprecedented pace. In this episode, Chris Turner, Executive Director of B Lab UK, and Dyann Heward-Mills, CEO of HewardMills, explore what’s fueling this rapid expansion. From the rise in purpose-...
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Episode 22
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1:08:16

Setting the Record Straight: Dr. Bronner's, Purpose Pledge, B Corps, & LIFT Economy
A new initiative called the "Purpose Pledge" launched earlier this week. The timing—coinciding with Dr. Bronner’s decision to decertify as a B Corp—has led to questions about whether Purpose Pledge is ...
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Episode 21
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26:06

Thoughts on Dr. Bronner's Decertifying as a B Corp (w/ Farmer Cee Stanley)
In this episode of Beyond the B, co-hosts Ryan Honeyman and Emmy Allison explore the recent decision by Dr. Bronner’s to decertify as a B Corporation. Ryan kicks off the episode with a monologue offering both a generous interpretation ...
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Episode 20
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35:38

Cancel Culture in Climate (w/ Jenny Morgan)
We are sharing this crossover episode from Next Economy Now, our other LIFT podcast highlighting the leaders who that are taking a regenerative, bio-regional, democratic, e...
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49:56

Mailbag: The New B Corp Standards Are (Almost) Here—But You Can Start Now
In this mailbag episode, we give an update on Beyond the B listener stats, answer your questions about the new B Corp standards, share the latest updates from B Lab, and explain how you can already begin to make progress on the new B Corp stand...
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Episode 19
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45:25

Patagonia's Take on the B Corp Movement (w/ Vincent Stanley)
In this episode, Vincent Stanley, longtime Patagonia executive and co-author of The Responsible Company, describes how his company first found out about B Corps, why Patagonia didn't initially join the community, and his thoughts on th...
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Episode 18
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1:06:55

Beyond B Corps + 10 Principles of Next Economy Enterprises (Part 2, w/Kevin Bayuk)
In Part 2, Kevin Bayuk from LIFT Economy returns to continue our discussion about what it could look like to go "beyond B Corp." We explore this topic through the second half of the 10 Principles of Next Economy enterprises, which include:<...
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Episode 17
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1:15:05

Beyond B Corps + 10 Principles of Next Economy Enterprises (Part 1, w/Kevin Bayuk)
What does it mean to go “beyond B Corp”? LIFT Economy’s Kevin Bayuk explores this question through the lens of the 10 Principles of Next Economy enterprises. In this episode, we go through the first 5 principles:1) Need-oriented, ba...
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Episode 16
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55:14

Inside the "Black Box" of B Corp Verification (w/ Kali Gibson)
In this episode, we take a deep dive into the history and evolution of one of the most obscure, fascinating, and constantly evolving aspects of the B Corp movement--the B Corp verification process. We are joined by Kali Gibson, former Co-Direct...
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Episode 15
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1:22:34

Can Your Clients Jeopardize Your B Corp Certification?
Are any of your clients involved in controversial industries? Tune in to learn more about B Lab's new framework ("Companies with Clients in Controversial Industries") for assessing the nature of your company's involvement with the client, the d...
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Episode 14
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25:16

Sistema B and the Opportunities + Challenges of Global Growth (w/ JP Larenas)
Juan Pablo Larenas, co-founder of Sistema B, discusses the B Corp movement’s global reach and the unique governance hurdles of scaling it internationally. He shares insights on growing the B Corp community, expanding impact, and sustaining coll...
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Episode 13
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1:03:06

Circularity Lessons from Patagonia and Upcycled Foods (w/ Nellie Cohen and Dan Kurzrock)
In this episode, we dive into the prominent role of circularity in the new B Corp standards with Nellie Cohen, creator of Patagonia's Worn Wear project, and Dan Kurzrock, CEO of Upcycled Foods. Nellie and Dan share strategies for transforming w...
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Episode 12
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1:10:49

How B Academics Helps Grow the B Corp Movement (w/ Jessica Yinka Thomas)
In this episode, Jessica Yinka Thomas shares how B Academics and B Impact Teams are transforming business education and shaping the future of the B Corp community.Show Notes:
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Episode 11
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57:23

Breaking Down B Lab's "Second Consultation Summary Report"
Hosts Emmy Alison and Ryan Honeyman review B Lab's "Second Consultation Summary Report" to determine what has changed with the new requirements, what information is still missing, and what all of this means for the final B Corp standards being ...
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Episode 10
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54:42

How to Meet the New Climate Action Requirements (w/ David Jaber)
David Jaber, Founder of Climate Positive Consulting, joins the show to share his expertise on how to meet the new Climate Action requirements on B Lab's upcoming Evolution of Standards. We discuss effective methods for measuring GHG emissions, ...
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Episode 9
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1:03:56
