
Beyond the B: Latest on the B Corp Movement
Beyond the B provides an expert, insider's view of the B Corp Movement. Cohosts Emmy Allison (former Community Manager at B Lab) and Ryan Honeyman (Co-Author of The B Corp Handbook) from LIFT Economy facilitate an open and honest conversation about Certified B Corporations, advise companies on how to increase their impact, and provide a deep dive into the new B Corp standards that are shaping our community.
Episodes
28 episodes
Do People Care About B Corps? (w/ Charlotte Levitt & Michele Bradley)
B Lab has released its first-ever brand awareness report--providing valuable insights into the current state of recognition for B Corps worldwide. In this episode, we delve into the findings with two influential leaders from B Lab: Charlotte Le...
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Episode 27
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1:03:15

Nespresso's Side of the Story (w/ Lucy Bai)
Many people have an opinion about Nespresso becoming a Certified B Corporation. But very few have ever heard their side of the story. In this episode with Lucy Bai, Sustainability Manager for Nespresso US, we strive for a balance of genuine cur...
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Episode 26
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57:38

New B Corp Standards: First Impressions, Highlights, and Key Takeaways
The new B Corp standards have finally arrived! In this episode, Ryan Honeyman and Emmy Allison share their first impressions and key takeaways from the 1,130-page update. What’s changed? What’s stayed the same? And what does it all mean for com...
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Episode 25
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29:27

Last Call! Important v6 Standards Deadline
Last month, B Lab Global made an announcement that affects some small-to-medium existing B Corps. If your B Corp is due to submit for recertification between July 1 and December 31, 2025, and you would like to be evaluated under Version 6 (i.e....
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Episode 24
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36:33

B Corps, Global Policy, and Systemic Change (w/ Marcel Fukayama)
In this episode, we speak with Marcel Fukayama, co-founder of Din4mo and a key leader in the B Corp movement, to explore the evolving landscape of B Corps, the role of policy in shaping the movement, and the challenges and opportunities ahead.&...
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Episode 23
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56:35

🔥 B Corp Growth in the UK (w/ Chris Turner & Dyann Heward-Mills)
The B Corp movement in the UK is growing at an unprecedented pace. In this episode, Chris Turner, Executive Director of B Lab UK, and Dyann Heward-Mills, CEO of HewardMills, explore what’s fueling this rapid expansion. From the rise in purpose-...
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Episode 22
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1:08:16

Setting the Record Straight: Dr. Bronner's, Purpose Pledge, B Corps, & LIFT Economy
A new initiative called the "Purpose Pledge" launched earlier this week. The timing—coinciding with Dr. Bronner’s decision to decertify as a B Corp—has led to questions about whether Purpose Pledge is ...
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Episode 21
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26:06

Thoughts on Dr. Bronner's Decertifying as a B Corp (w/ Farmer Cee Stanley)
In this episode of Beyond the B, co-hosts Ryan Honeyman and Emmy Allison explore the recent decision by Dr. Bronner’s to decertify as a B Corporation. Ryan kicks off the episode with a monologue offering both a generous interpretation ...
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Episode 20
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35:38

Cancel Culture in Climate (w/ Jenny Morgan)
We are sharing this crossover episode from Next Economy Now, our other LIFT podcast highlighting the leaders who that are taking a regenerative, bio-regional, democratic, e...
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49:56

Mailbag: The New B Corp Standards Are (Almost) Here—But You Can Start Now
In this mailbag episode, we give an update on Beyond the B listener stats, answer your questions about the new B Corp standards, share the latest updates from B Lab, and explain how you can already begin to make progress on the new B Corp stand...
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Episode 19
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45:25

Patagonia's Take on the B Corp Movement (w/ Vincent Stanley)
In this episode, Vincent Stanley, longtime Patagonia executive and co-author of The Responsible Company, describes how his company first found out about B Corps, why Patagonia didn't initially join the community, and his thoughts on th...
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Episode 18
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1:06:55

Beyond B Corps + 10 Principles of Next Economy Enterprises (Part 2, w/Kevin Bayuk)
In Part 2, Kevin Bayuk from LIFT Economy returns to continue our discussion about what it could look like to go "beyond B Corp." We explore this topic through the second half of the 10 Principles of Next Economy enterprises, which include:<...
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Episode 17
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1:15:05

Beyond B Corps + 10 Principles of Next Economy Enterprises (Part 1, w/Kevin Bayuk)
What does it mean to go “beyond B Corp”? LIFT Economy’s Kevin Bayuk explores this question through the lens of the 10 Principles of Next Economy enterprises. In this episode, we go through the first 5 principles:1) Need-oriented, ba...
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Episode 16
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55:14

Inside the "Black Box" of B Corp Verification (w/ Kali Gibson)
In this episode, we take a deep dive into the history and evolution of one of the most obscure, fascinating, and constantly evolving aspects of the B Corp movement--the B Corp verification process. We are joined by Kali Gibson, former Co-Direct...
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Episode 15
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1:22:34

Can Your Clients Jeopardize Your B Corp Certification?
Are any of your clients involved in controversial industries? Tune in to learn more about B Lab's new framework ("Companies with Clients in Controversial Industries") for assessing the nature of your company's involvement with the client, the d...
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Episode 14
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25:16

Sistema B and the Opportunities + Challenges of Global Growth (w/ JP Larenas)
Juan Pablo Larenas, co-founder of Sistema B, discusses the B Corp movement’s global reach and the unique governance hurdles of scaling it internationally. He shares insights on growing the B Corp community, expanding impact, and sustaining coll...
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Episode 13
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1:03:06

Circularity Lessons from Patagonia and Upcycled Foods (w/ Nellie Cohen and Dan Kurzrock)
In this episode, we dive into the prominent role of circularity in the new B Corp standards with Nellie Cohen, creator of Patagonia's Worn Wear project, and Dan Kurzrock, CEO of Upcycled Foods. Nellie and Dan share strategies for transforming w...
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Episode 12
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1:10:49

How B Academics Helps Grow the B Corp Movement (w/ Jessica Yinka Thomas)
In this episode, Jessica Yinka Thomas shares how B Academics and B Impact Teams are transforming business education and shaping the future of the B Corp community.Show Notes:
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Episode 11
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57:23

Breaking Down B Lab's "Second Consultation Summary Report"
Hosts Emmy Alison and Ryan Honeyman review B Lab's "Second Consultation Summary Report" to determine what has changed with the new requirements, what information is still missing, and what all of this means for the final B Corp standards being ...
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Episode 10
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54:42

How to Meet the New Climate Action Requirements (w/ David Jaber)
David Jaber, Founder of Climate Positive Consulting, joins the show to share his expertise on how to meet the new Climate Action requirements on B Lab's upcoming Evolution of Standards. We discuss effective methods for measuring GHG emissions, ...
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Episode 9
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1:03:56

Latest Updates on the New B Corp Standards (w/ Clay Brown)
Clay Brown, Interim Co-Executive Lead at B Lab Global, joins the show to discuss the latest updates, progress, and milestones around the new B Corp evolution of standards.
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Episode 8
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1:07:08

Activating the Vote (w/ Sara Gifford)
It's US election season! Sara Gifford, Co-Founder and COO of ActiVote, joins us to explore how B Corps can activate voters in order to drive significant change. Tune in to discover how small steps are key to collective transformation.
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Episode 7
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35:19

Mailbag: Havas Decertified, B Corp Fee Increase, Tips for Young Professionals, & More
After the first five episodes of Beyond the B, it's time to reach into the listener mailbag! In this episode, Emmy and Ryan address a range of topics, including Havas having its B Corp certification revoked, the recent fee increases on B Corp c...
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Episode 6
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55:57

Can B Corps be More Regenerative? (w/ Heather Paulsen)
Heather Paulsen (from Heather Paulsen Consulting) joins the show to discuss her path to the B Corp movement, her insights about regenerative business, and whether B Corp certification is enough to create an economy that works for the benefit of...
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Episode 5
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46:38

Struggle for the Soul of the B Corp Movement (w/ Erinch Sahan)
In February 2023, the Financial Times wrote an article entitled “Struggle for the Soul of the B Corp movement.” This article, among other things, detailed the controversy surrounding Nespresso’s certification as a B Corp in 2022. Enrich Sahan f...
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Episode 4
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1:16:00
