BONUS Book Club: Girl with a Pearl Earring

August Bonus Bookclub pick was Girl with a Pearl Earring by Tracy Chevalier. 

Next month's pick is Broken Country by Clarke Leslie Hall. 

Can't wait to see you for next months book club episode!!

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Welcome to the Failure Cubs podcast. We're your host, Morgan and Daley. Welcome to a book club bonus episode. Bonus book club episode. I mean, one of these days we're actually gonna get a real sound effect. It won't be me. Oh my gosh. Do you, can you imagine how distracted we would get if we had one of those soundboard things? Oh my God, I a whole episode with just sound effects, basically. I love it. Anyway, that's so funny. So this month's book club episode is about Girl with a Pearl Earring. Yes. By Tracy. What do you think? Valier. Valier? Yeah. I don't know. I, I would've said Shevalier, but C-H-E-V-A-L-I-E-R. That is that what you Yeah, that was our book club episode for, well, that was August Book Club. So yes. It's kind of weird'cause a lot of, so sometimes since we meet in the month that the, that we discuss the book. Sometimes we read the book in the prior month. It just kind of depends where it falls. Yeah. But. We met about this book had our girl, the Pearl Earring Book Club. Mm-hmm. It was Danielle's Pick Yes. This time. And her last pick last year was also historical fiction. It was Magnificent Lives, Merry Mercury Post. Mm-hmm. Which I think is like the one out of two book clubs that we have not. Like that we did not record'cause I did not read that book. Oh yeah. Because I couldn't for some reason, like, or not that I couldn't, I didn't for some reason. And then by the time that Book Club actually came around, I was like, I'm not coming to book club'cause I actually really wanna read this book. Yeah. It seems so great. And I never read it. That is so funny. Yeah. Yeah. It was really good though. And I do feel like people in general liked that one a little bit better than this one. Hmm. I could see that. Because that one had a little bit more to it, right? Yeah. It bit more of a story. So the interesting thing about this one girl with a pearl earring was it just kind of was almost like an inner monologue. Yeah. I felt like it was very stream of consciousness. Mm-hmm. I compared it to like reading a diary. Yeah, totally. So. I, that actually did not bother me at all. I actually really liked it. Mm-hmm. And I felt like it was pretty simple, but still unique. Yes, the language was simple, but because it was in a different setting in a different time and like all of that, I felt like it was still really unique. And so I really liked it. Me too. And you. Physically read the book, right? Yes. Okay. I audio booked it. That's right. So I audio booked like the entire thing and I usually do a little bit of half and half, but the book was, it was a pretty small book, so it was a pretty quick listen and it was funny'cause I even listened to it at a slower pace than I normally do just because the accent was throwing me off, which is just like an English accent. But I couldn't listen to it at like my normal 1.8'cause all the words were jumbled together. Oh yeah. So I listened to it slower and I think I had said that to the book club. Like, oh my God, I'm having to listen to this at like. I don't know, 1.25 or something. Mm-hmm. And Julia had said like, oh, once you get used to it, you can probably speed back up. And I was like, oh, you're right. And then I bumped it up to 1.5. Mm-hmm. And it was totally easy. But I really enjoyed the audio book. Yeah. I don't think I would've enjoyed the physical book. About half of our group did audio and half did physical. Mm-hmm. And it did kind of feel like the audio bookers liked it better than the physical. I agree. I feel like all the audio bookers were like, I don't think I would've liked it if it was physical. Yeah. Which is funny because I think it was just because it was such a simple and slow read. Yeah. And I think for me. Now, this will be the last time I talk about this. Uh, well, maybe not, but Oh, this'll be the last time that in a book club episode I bring up the fact that I was in the middle of a Brandon Sanderson or just finished or whatever. Yes. But the Brandon Sanderson Stormlight Archive series, these thousand plus page books mm-hmm. That are really intricate, really complicated, complex magic, huge worlds world building. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy intricate books. I had just finished the last one, the fifth and the, it's not the final. Technically he's gonna write more. Oh, there's supposed to be five more. Is it your final? No, I don't think I, I think really, I'll still read the rest of the series when, when they come out, but it's gonna be a while because he takes, he has several series. It's kind of like how Sarah J Mass? You're like, no, we just want the last aar. We want Uhhuh. Oh, I'm for Elaine's story or whatever. But she's off writing another stuff instead. That's fine. It's kind of like that. So. So the Brandon Sanderson, he does have a plan to finish that series, but I was to say, I had just finished the fifth one, and that's the last one that has been written so far. And I, because I had come from that complex world, crazy world building, intricate magic, all that. Yeah. My brain loved just reading someone's thoughts. Oh yeah. And slowing down and just kind of like. Being in someone's mind and being like, what's gonna happen? Yeah. I don't know, but like you didn't really care that much. You're kinda like, what's she gonna do at work today? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. What color will she paint with today? It it felt kind of, yeah, it felt kind of serene. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. I totally agree. I felt like it. It was slow. It was simple. And I really enjoyed like the calmness of it. Even though there was parts of the book that were like kind of crazy, like with the slap, which was so funny. How divided Oh my God was about Max. Yes. Half the people were like, I mean, yeah, that's just how it was. And half the people were like, um, no, that was crazy. Yeah. And I'm like, no, slapping a kid is crazy. But it was also, so that's what, so that's what I love about this book because. I felt like the slap, it was pretty early on in the book. Very early. It was when she first meets the family. Yeah. And I felt like it was crazy. Yes. I mean, I, my immediate reaction was like, oh my gosh. And then I was like, all right, I guess we're just getting right into it because I, and I felt like. Because it was so early on, I felt like it was a really smart choice of making the point of the setting that we were in. I agree. I felt like it brought me right into the time. I was like, all right, we hit our kids back here. Yeah. Like, and, and we let our maids hit. Our kids like, yeah, that's just how it goes in these times, Uhhuh. So to me, I completely agree. Yeah. To me it was, I was taken aback by it, Uhhuh, but I just went right past it because I was like, whoa, all right. We're doing it. We're doing it. What time period was it set in? It was 16 hundreds. Okay. That's what I thought. I knew it was super, super old and I was kind of scared of this book going into it.'cause I was like, this is gonna be language I do not understand. Yeah. It's gonna be so boring. And it was opposite. Yeah. Obviously it's'cause it wasn't written in the 16 hundreds. It was written in like the nineties. Yeah. Which made it easier to understand I think. But I was scared of it at first for sure. I do think that things like the. Obvious physical punishments and discipline of the kids. Yeah. That's one thing that lent itself to that time period. And then well, and also just kind of the maids in in general. Yeah. So there were definitely certain things that kind of brought us back that time period. Also, her being, I don't know, just kind of how misogynistic everything was. Yeah. And clearly feminism was not a thing at all. Mm-hmm. But, but also, I. When we talked about the SLAP and whatnot, I didn't think about this till just now, but did the other Did, did do Tika. Yeah, Tika. Uhhuh. Tika. That word does not look that way. Her name does not look how it reads. But anyway. That's so funny. But anyway, did she ever physically discipline the kids? I don't think it showed her physically disciplining them, but she had also been there for so much longer. Oh, and you know what? I guess technically she was not her mistress was Cornelia. No, no. Cornelia was the bad kid. Car. Catherine. Oh, Katerina. Katerina, yes. If her, her. So I guess Katerina would've been, if she was there when Catarina was a kid, she maybe would've disciplined her. Yeah. Maybe she wouldn't have disciplined because she, she made a very clear distinction all the time of. She's not my mi mistress or whatever. Yeah. Or, yeah. About Katerina dude, at one point in the book, so when I, when I do listen to books, sometimes you miss things, especially if you're like in the middle of something else. Sometimes you just Ms. Little details. Yeah. But they kept saying, my mistress, my mistress, Uhhuh. And at one point, Catarina, it was like whenever she got pregnant, and I thought that they were saying that. Tika was pregnant and I was like, oh, okay, so Tika is the mistress, like the live-in mistress. Like what? I was so confused about it and I was like, they're just okay with like the maid. Slash like housekeeper, whatever. This girl is working for the family. They're just fine with her hooking up with the husband and getting pregnant. I was like, is this like some sister wives stuff? But then I figured it out. I was like, oh, okay. Okay. But also, what is it with books, having character names that are so similar? I'm like, can't you change this up at all? Like Catalina? Oh, like Ka and Cornelia? Yes. I'm like, why? Yeah. And then they had, what was it, big John, little John. No, wait, Peter, big Peter. Little Peter, like come on. It was son Peter and Father Peter. Yes. And then they had a Van Dusen. And a Van Ryn. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm just like, come on, can we not get a Frank and a C? Like, I need two totally different names because. I feel like it takes a second for my brain to get there. Yeah. Especially if I'm listening. But then they go crazy and they do like tica. That looks like Toi. Yeah. Or Maria thins. Maria Tins. Yeah. And, and it's like, okay, can we, where's the middle ground? Yes. Where's the middle ground? Also, I think it was Lindsay, or maybe it was Madeline had said, I think it would be really funny in the future for another book with all these character names to have the audio bookers try to spell the names. Yes. That would be so funny. Physical bookers. Try to pronounce the names. I was like, wait, seriously. That's hilarious.'cause you guys are like TEI or whatever that you keep saying. I'm like, yes. I'm like, how was that spelled? Because it was just Tanika. Yeah. I'm like, that's so funny. Yeah. No, it is not spelled like Tanika. It's crazy. I love it. I felt like the, okay. Yes. So back to the. Getting hit thing definitely took us back in time, which I really enjoyed that. Mm-hmm. I feel like another big piece of like debate that we had at book club was about the husband slash dad. Mm. And like his relationship with grief. Yeah. So. Yeah, I'd be interested to see what people on YouTube think, because I feel like I never felt, I did feel like there was clearly tension, but it felt like it was just from her. Uhhuh obviously we're getting her point of view. Uhhuh, and it read since it reads like a diary. Yeah. To me it reads like a girl's first crush on a man kind of situation. Okay. Yeah. And I didn't really think that he was interested in her uhhuh, especially since. They talked a lot about, how about the previous girl that the guy commissioned him to Rough Oh yeah. Draw. And then he intoxicated her, got her pregnant and then she was kind of out on the streets, basically. Yeah. Uh, and, and this guy, guy, wait, not the, not the husband, right? Not Van Ri. He didn't do that. The bad guy. Okay. Van Deen, I think. I dunno. Okay. Well, the bad guy, he's the one who intoxicated and impregnated that girl. Yes. Okay. Okay. What? But it was, while he, it was a whole storyline that in the past it was like the girl with the red cap or something like that in the past. He come, he wanted this girl to be painted with him so that anytime that they were posing he could like give her alcohol and kind of like drunk her up. And then I think it was Tika. Hey, you did it. I, it was Tanika that was telling. Discreet about this. Mm. And saying that, oh, well this is what happened, kind of when she was still giving her the goss. Mm-hmm. She said that that's what happened with the previous maid. And then, oh, she's no longer, basically. Right. And I feel like from that experience, the master. I'm forgetting his name. The painter? Yeah. Was, I think it's Van. Van Rivan. Okay. Is his name I think. Okay. You don't think so? I just don't think anything was spelled that way in the book. Oh really? I think it was spelled with a W. So I think I always read it as like rah or something. I dunno. That's funny. Painter or wj? Like a a W and a J. That's so funny. Or something, I don't know. Vermeer. Oh, that's the painter. That is the painter. Is is okay. That's the real painter. Is his, is he also the painter in the book? I can't remember. Painter and girl with a pearling. I think we just need to look up girl pearling character names. That's what I'm doing. Okay. Yeah, it was Vermeer. So was there a Van Ri and a Van Deen? Because then Who's Van Deusen or Van Dugin. Okay. So there's, see this is what I was saying. Uh, guess. Oh yeah, that's the Van Ri. That's Van Ri. Yeah. And then there's Vermeer. I don't think there's any Deins. Okay. But there's a Van Ryn. And then, and he's the bad guy. And then Vermeer is the painter. Painter. Okay. And then there is a Van Lowen Hook, or Lee, how did they say it in the book? I don't know. Le. I know. I think I just said Lowen Hook. Yeah, Lowen Hook. That sounds right. So that's also probably why you're annoyed because there's Van Ri, van Lowen, hook Vermeer. There's definitely no Van Dusen. Yes. Okay. There's no Van Ducen. That's Serena Vanderwood built. What are we talking about? Okay. Anyway. Yeah. I wanna get back to the girl. Me too. So, okay. So originally there was a girl that Van Ri, bad guy, asked to paint and he ruined her life because he knocked her up. Well, he got her drunk, knocked her up, and then she's out on the streets, basically worse. So then I feel like Vermeer became really protective over greet. Oh. And I felt like he. Was trying to play interference with bad guy Van Rubin. Mm-hmm. And he, I don't know, I did not get the romance from him. Okay. I could see it from your point of, because whenever you said, you're like, I feel like it was like more of a father figure. I was like, uh, what? And I was like, no, there's no way. But I do feel like once you've explained it a little bit now, and it's almost like more of a protective, instead of like possessive. Is kind of how you felt? No, I didn't think he was possessive. Right. You're saying he was more protective? Yeah. Right. I think other people, including myself, would've been like, he was more possessive. Oh. Like he was more like, no, she's mine. Like, like, I don't want you to see her the way I see her. I get to see her. Yeah. Kind of thing. I mean, I, I get why you might think that, but the thing is, it was told completely from Creed's point of view, it was told completely from her point of view. Ugh. I just remembered how he never, how she would get in trouble all the time and he would never stand up for her, or he would never just tell his wife, like actually, like I have her doing that. Yeah. Which I think is part of the weirdness. I do think it was weird, but I think that. I don't think that men, I think it was another part of product at the time. I don't think that men at that time were expected to give any explanations for what they were doing. That's true, especially for a woman, and I feel like, again, from Greek's point of view, she said that she saw the intimacy that he had with his wife, that he felt affection toward her. That's true. She, she said that she witnessed that and I feel like he was. In love with his wife and Yeah. And felt affectionate toward her or whatever. Yeah. And I just felt like he, but he also knew her well. Yeah. And knew that she would be weirdly jealous. Mm-hmm. And so, okay. Not weirdly jealous. I would be so jealous if Mason painted another woman fully clothed. Yes. What? Well, you wouldn't if Jared was painting someone. Yeah. No, no way. It's not, it's not like a Jack and Row situation. Okay. Yeah. Just because he's not naked. No freaking way. Am I okay with that? Let's say you go downstairs, I mean, it's like in this day and age, like texting another girl. It really is. Dude, that's That's so funny. I mean, if he didn't tell me. Yeah, exactly. But I think that. But again, this will never happen. But if we're going with the scenario Uhhuh, Jared would know that I like he would know to tell me. Yeah. And I, and then I wouldn't care. Yeah. Then Vermeer did not tell his wife. I know. But he knew that she would be weirdly jealous. Oh, and you're saying it's not weird that she's jealous. And I'm saying if he told her, she would be jealous. And I'm saying, I don't think it's weird to paint a maid. I don't know. I think that's. I think that's so weird. I think it's so weird, and I think that this is where the perception of Vermeer like comes into play because for me, he was this tortured artist that nobody understood and he was like, I'm better than everybody else. I do these paintings once a year. You can't rush art kind of thing. Mm-hmm. And that he was like, oh, she kind of gets it. She wants to understand I can teach her and like I can be her mentor. Yeah, but in a way where he didn't actually really want her to, you know, take off with that or anything. He was just like. Come, come with me. See, to me it felt like, okay, again, a dad uhhuh, like say that I'm a dad and I'm a painter, or like the tile, her dad was a tile maker or whatever. Yeah. And she starts getting really interested in ceramics or something. Mm-hmm. I feel like of course he would take her under her wing and be like, oh my God, she's interested in things that I'm interested in. Yeah. It's like when our dad. When I started getting into watching alone and he was like, oh my God. Like let's watch alone together. Yeah. That's your actual dad, so it's okay. I agree. However, if this was like, yeah, but in this setting, don't you feel like. And actually that's a great example. It's not a great example because I'm not serving Dad Uhhuh, but he's not my biological dad. I'm just saying, okay, but he's your dad. I know, but what I'm saying is like she, in this time it was very, it was perfectly normal for young girls who was, families were in poverty to go into someone else's house and basically not be a part of their families anymore. Yes. And then that pers that I, it would not surprise me if that person. Kind of started to feel like, oh, I should father her, or I should like be a father figure to her or whatever. Yeah, no, my impression was totally different while I was reading it. I don't think that they had like sexual tension or anything like that. Like I think had they made out in the broom closet or something, I would've been like, what? Like this is horrible. If that happened, I'd be like. Yeah, I would've been like, that's actually really pervy.'cause I mean, she was really young, but I just feel like he was more, he was more like, this is my muse and I'm a tortured artist. And she gets it. And like, I wanna have her close to me. I wanna have her with me. And I think that had it been more of an innocent caring about her, then he would've told. Katina, and he wouldn't have had her secretly making all these paints for him because he would've just been like, yeah, I'm actually teaching her how to do all this stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Mm-hmm. But instead he was like, no, I want you all myself. You can't tell anybody. It was like, it was like a secret love affair without actually being. A love affair. I do think the secrecy was weird. I just, again, I kind of wrote it off like the slap that it was kind of a, I'm a man, I don't have to justify myself to anybody kind of thing. Yeah. Or explain myself to anyone because that's not expected of men at this time. Yeah. And so that was kind of how I read it. I'm trying to think, now I'm trying to brainstorm are,'cause I feel like there are movies or TV shows where a child. Has to like leave their family. I'm like Shirley in Bridgeton or something like that where the child leaves their family and is like basically brought up by the family that they're living with, but they don't always ends an affair. Shut up. And totally thinking of, I don't know. I can't place any specific up. It's totally always ends an affair. No, like I'm thinking of. This is, this isn't a great example, but what comes to mind is like in Game of Thrones, you've never seen it, but in Game of Thrones, there's this. There's a family and Ned Stark and Catlan Stark have their own kids, Uhhuh, and then Ned goes off to war. Okay, that's a bad example. She goes off to war and she thinks that he, he brings back a baby. Okay. That's his, she thinks spoilers. Um, it's not actually Ned's, it was his. Brothers. Okay. But he like kind of covered for him. But anyway, so he brings him back and he raises him as his own kid. Okay. And when John, who's this kid, when John grows up and like Ned takes an interest in him and takes him under his wing and raises him like he's his own kid, Catlan is so jealous. Mm-hmm. But not because. Obviously they're both boys, so. Mm-hmm. Not because Ned's interested in Uhhuh John or anything, but she's so jealous just because it's not her own kid. Okay. Yeah. And it's a whole mothering thing where she's like, if you're gonna spend attention on anybody, it better be on our own freaking kids or me. Yeah. And so that's kind of what I got from, it's actually crazy that her name's Catlyn Stark and this girl's name is Ka Ka Katerina. Katerina Katerina, yeah. Yeah. But anyway, but that's what, that's the vibes I got from Katerina was that she was just like. It's not that she was jealous because there was anything intimate going on, but just that she was like, you're paying attention to her and not me or my kids, you know? Mm-hmm. And you know what? I get that. I really do. I really do get that. I like, what is she prettier than me? Like, oh my God, she sits better than I do. What is that about? I could sit here, I'll say, I do think it's weird that he never painted her. It's weird. That's that's the part. That I can understand why you'd be upset. Yeah, I, I guess the part where I could understand why you wouldn't be upset is because it wasn't of his own like. He didn't come up with it and yeah, he wasn't like, I need to paint you. It was more like he got commissioned for it. Yes. So that is true. It's funny because I really did not expect that to be a point of contention, kind of, or like a point of debate at book club. I just thought everyone was gonna be like, oh yeah, he was weird. And then half the people were like, no, it wasn't. And I was like, wait, really? Mm-hmm. I was like, that's so funny, because I can really see it from both perspectives. So I am interested, I think. I think also there's just too much. Guessing because, yeah, because its all, you don't get his point of view, so there's too much guesswork. You mm-hmm. You really don't know. That's true. What his thoughts were. That's true. And when you do see him, it's always when they're alone. Yeah. And when she's feeling, I did like how someone had, I think it was Jordan had said. Like, but don't you feel like she was a little bit afraid or like, do you feel like she was doing it a little bit outta fear? Yes, and I was like, yes, I do. It was like fear and admiration. Mm-hmm. Like mixed together and she didn't know what to do. I feel like had she not been the maid and had she not been employed by him, she probably would've left the situation. Yeah. But there was something about him that she was like. He makes me feel freer and he makes me feel creative and mm-hmm. Important. She was drawn into him, but also she felt like her livelihood was at stake. Yeah. So what are you gonna do? Fear and admiration, what are you gonna do? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I thought a crazy point of the book. So, moving on from all that, a crazy point of the book was when Katerina continued to get pregnant and. I did not know this, but one time we were talking to mom about like if she, if she breastfed all of her kids or not, Uhhuh, and she said she did not with John. I can't remember about, oh, Jordan and Julia, but like it's because it wasn't really. A thing to, huh? Breastfeed your kids back then, because you were seen as lower class if you breastfed your own kids. That's right. That's right. Yeah. So it was like just starting to come back around. I think by the time that like John was born, but still forgot about that. Yeah. Uhhuh, it was still heavily, like you should just do formula bottles were easier. Uhhuh, I think grandma knew how to do the bottles. That was just what she ended up doing. But I was thinking about that conversation when. Listening to this book.'cause I was like, oh my God, Katerina never nursed her own children. Yeah, she had like a nursing maid. Yes. And I thought that was crazy. Yeah. I was like, oh my gosh. Like what does that mean that the nursing maid like would've had her own baby recently and then, you know, that's, oh, that's a good point. Nursing. Yes. I think so. Children? I think so. Or did she just, you know, if, if you're producing, it doesn't stop producing unless you literally like don't have a good production. But I was like, or is she, is this literally her job so she never stops producing milk? Yeah, actually, if she always has a baby Uhhuh to produce food for then, right. I thought that was crazy. Yeah. That's weird. I just, I just assumed it would've been another newer mom. Yeah. I mean, it could have been, but Wow. That's crazy. I know. I thought that was funny. It gives me Handmaid's tale vibes, actually. But that's like having the whole baby for someone, not just for them, but I think if Caterina had more money, I could have seen her be that kind of character. You don't think that she would still wanna have her own baby? I don't know. She might. She might wanna have her own babies, but I don't think it was about. It was more about how she was treated when she was pregnant. Exactly. That's why I feel like she would still want to go through with the pregnancy. So maybe, yeah, maybe. Yeah. She certainly would not want someone else in her house being pregnant and getting all that attention and treatment. True. You know what, I get that too. Yeah. You know what we didn't really talk about that I thought was interesting is kind of the concept of house poor and how it, it has probably been around for forever because that's what they were in, that family they had. Their amazing whatever house, but it was really old. Mm-hmm. And not really in great shape. Their material items were like their material luxury items even. Yeah. Were kind of worn down and whatnot. Yeah. And they were kind of living painting to painting, not paycheck to paycheck, but painting to painting. And I. I feel like we talk about that now about how like all of our money goes into like buying a house and then you really don't have any money for anything else. Yeah. But it's, I guess it's kinda always in that way or, and, and now it's not even considered like a luxury item or like you're really high class if you have a house. It's just kind of an expectation. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I just thought that was in, I just. Thought that was interesting that mm-hmm. They had the appearance of wealth, but mm-hmm. They were really just not actually that wealthy. Yeah. Yeah. They, they really were living paycheck to paycheck. I wonder how many people are like that. I would guess a lot of people, yeah. I would say that probably everyone you see who lives a really luxurious life is probably not, unless they're like literal celebrities who actually are millionaires. Like if it's a normal person like us, and you can tell they're like really living in luxury. Probably not actually in luxury. Like they got credit card debt or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know exactly. No, that's a good point. Something we did not talk about was the very end of the book, which I was surprised about, or not the very end, but like the fight scene between Catarina and. Vermeer and greet like up in the attic when Caterina goes up there and she's like, what the hell? You're painting this And she's super pregnant. And then she like grabs the, she tries to go for, oh yeah, yeah. She like grabs the painter's knife. Yeah. But she goes for the painting. I thought she was gonna go for greet. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh my gosh. No, I knew for sure. Sure. I thought she was slicing the painting for sure. Dude. No, I saw she picked up the knife. I said, oh my God. I understand her. I'm just kidding. Kidding? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, but I thought that that was kind of crazy. And then they stopped her right in time and then. She ended up having like the miscarriage right up there. Oh yeah. That was terrible. That was crazy. I was like, oh my God. Yeah, and she had a terrible pregnancy. How did it feel reading about someone that was pregnant while being pregnant? It was fine. It was fine. You didn't really relate? No. You know what Julia asked me that about the great, big, beautiful life because they. She like gives the baby up for adoption. Yeah. And Julia was like, oh, what's that? And I was like, it was fine. I don't know, like, feel like I did not put those with me in my brain. Yeah. I like did not equate, I dunno, I didn't feel like it was relatable, so I just kept going. The only part that I thought was crazy was the nursing part. And I was like, wow. Oh yeah. Love her. Just wild to me. I think I told you I've read a really creepy book since then that I can't get my brain off of, and I've read two books since that book. Oh. But I, but yeah. So The Last Mrs. Parish. Yes. I didn't, I've never read that one, but I had it on my list to read. I think I've read that one. It, it, I don't think you have either, because I feel like I would know. I, I don't think you marked it on good reads, but, mm. But yeah, I, but yeah, this book. Felt, I don't know. It felt like easy breezy to me, you know? Yes. I love that. Okay. Yeah. I have it on my want to read. Well, I know that our, well, I think that was everything I had for this book. Um, the next book that we're doing is Alexandra's Pick. Yeah. And she's doing Broken Country by Claire Leslie Hall. Yeah. Which, didn't she just show that it's gonna be made into Yes. It's gonna be made into a movie or a TV show. I feel like I get a notification every other day saying, this book series is being made into an adaption. And I'm like, what? I love it. I think they heard me say that that was my goal, and then they were like, all right, bet. I'm just trying to figure out how it's possible. It's I, yeah, I agree. I agree. I'm just like, what I'm trying to see. It says, wait, March, 2025, that has already happened. I'm trying to see. If it says when it is going out, but yeah, but so what's it called again? Broken country. Broken Country. Yeah. This doesn't, this doesn't say, but it does say there's a mega deal on Netflix. Exciting. Which makes me nervous'cause Netflix is so bad. That's true. They take crazy creative liberties. But I'm really excited for this book. It's rated a 4.360, it says re Wow. Yeah, it says Reese Witherspoon is gonna be one of the producers. Oh yeah. It'll be really good. Yeah. That's wild. It's a Reese Book club pick. So yeah, I'm super excited. This is so funny because for some reason my description's in Spanish, even though nothing else is, but I just remember the first line said. It was a secret affair and then it become public or something like that. And I was like, oh yeah. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. Yes. Well, I hope you guys join us for that book club. That will be our September book club. So that means that we meet on the second Wednesdays of the month, which means that Morin and I typically get it out by like the third or fourth week of that month. Mm-hmm. So, so yeah. So read this by the. September. Yeah, so you can catch our book club episode. Yeah. Broken Country. Broken Country. I'm excited for it. All right. All right. I think that was everything I had. Alright. See you Monday. You cheers