a refreshing conversation
a refreshing conversation, hosted by E, is an unscripted podcast built around the kind of dialogue that happens when people feel comfortable enough to just be themselves. Each episode brings together real people — some E has known for years, others she’s meeting for the first time — all bringing their stories, their humor, and their perspective.
The conversations aren’t rushed or rehearsed. They find their own rhythm. They wander a little, settle in, and open up the way real conversations do when the vibe is right. There’s space for laughter, honesty, curiosity, and those small moments that stay with you long after you’ve heard them.
Rooted in lived experience and the culture that shaped it, the show creates a place where connection feels natural and the conversation feels good — steady, real, and exactly what it needs to be.
And when it’s all said and done, what you’re left with is…
a refreshing conversation.
Episodes
19 episodes
Season 2 Episode 6 - "Peaches"
Episode DescriptionIn this episode, E chats with Peaches,. She's the kind of person who has seen the highs, the lows, and the moments in between… and still makes space for honesty, laughter, and love.The 21 moves through Caribbean...
Season 2 Episode 5- Jerimy
Episode TitleLife Goes OnEpisode DescriptionIn this episode, E chats with Jerimy, a world traveler and educator. Though they’ve never met in person, their conversations have spanned multiple continents. The 21 m...
Season 2 Episode 4 - "Ramond"
Episode TitleWhat Would This Chapter Be Called?Episode DescriptionSometimes you meet someone and the connection is instant. Easy conversation, real laughs, and the kind of energy that makes it feel like you’ve known each ot...
Season 2 Episode 3- "Damien"
What Your Future Self Will Thank You ForEpisode DescriptionFor Episode 3, E sits down with Damien, a longtime friend whose conversations always come with humor, honesty, and plenty of personality.The 21 brings out airport s...
Season 2 Episode 2- "Jones"
Episode TitleWhat If You Could Never LoseEpisode DescriptionThis time, E sits down with Jones. A friend who’s basically a brother. The kind of person who’s down to shenan and shenan again.The 21 starts light. Petty p...
Season 2 Episode 1-"V"
Episode TitleLegacy, Laughter, and 20+ Years of FriendshipEpisode DescriptionIt only made sense that the first guest of Season 2 would be someone E's known for over two decades.In this episode, E s...
In (A Refreshing) Conversation with E
Episode TitleIn (A Refreshing) Conversation with EEpisode DescriptionSeason 2 OpenerIt was supposed to be a short break.It turned into almost seven years.In this opening episode, E returns to the mi...
WE DID IT! 1st Season complete!
In this final episode of season 1, E and King reflect on their best and "Daaaamn" moments from season 1, even those that came when they were not on the show.They'll answer such questions like:What was their favorite ...
21 Questions Part 2
Yo! We’re back Y'all after a short break E and King are back on the mic with an all NEW episode of a refreshing conversation. This episode can be described in one word: an outrageously, hysterically, fantastically, ins...
Getting Back Out There
You're back into the single life dropped into a world of joyous possibilities and excitement but also an endless space of “dating” apps, profiles, and first dates. 🤦🏾♂️.In this episode, E and King discuss the modern dating culture and ...
Minding My (Black) Owned Business Part 4
Minding My (Black) Owned BusinessIn this episode of a refreshing conversation, we review the first episode of Killer Mike's Netflix series "Trigger Warnings", in which he spends three days using and consuming only products that come fro...
Minding My Black (Owned) Business Part 3
E and King continue their "Minding My Black (Owned) Business" with a discussion on the challenges, or not, that come with being in a relationship with an entrepreneur. The long hours can be challenging and the lack of finan...
Minding My Black (Owned) Business Part 2
E and King continue their "Minding My Black (Owned) Business" series with a conversation on the state of Black businesses. Listen in as they discuss the “Homie discount” and how it plagues Black businesses, why it’s time for Blacks...
Minding My Black (Owned) Business Part 1
Welcome back, welcome back, wel-come back!E and King are back and on the mic bringing you all new series on entrepreneurship and Black business. To kick off this series, E and King share their personal insight into the life of a...
What It's Like To Be Black: Sounds Of Black Life
Join E and King for a powerful episode on the Black (American) experience, at home and abroad. In this episode, they'll give insight into the complexities of Black (American) life: from having to prove their Americanism, defend a c...
21 Questions For E and King - Getting to Know The Host
Creating a podcast can be challenging. Creating a podcast with a complete stranger is even more challenging. Right? In this episode, get to know E and King as they (continue) to get to know each other. The animated duo briefly refl...
What's (Black) Love Got To Do With It?
In this episode E and King share their views on Black Love. What is it? How do you know when you have it? Is it something that is simply manifested when two Black people decide to share their lives together? They'll also ponder an...
Black Panther & "Most Popular Film" Award at the Oscars
On this week's show, film addicts E and King address the initial controversy of the Oscars committee announcement to add the "Most Popular Film" award, why the committee retracted the award, and why many people believe this was meant to be noth...
Am I Black Excellence?
In this episode E and King discuss the culture of "Black Excellence" and how this moniker has become the singular determinant of progress and achievement in the Black community. Is this fair? Who decides the measure of Black Excellence? Has Bla...