Building Bigger Lives: Michael Regan on Coaching, AI, and Finding Balance in a Fast-Paced World

In this inspiring episode of The Way with Dino Katsiametis, professional coach Michael Regan of Building Champions shares decades of insight on how to lead with purpose, balance work and life, and thrive in a rapidly changing mortgage industry.

Dino and Michael explore:

• The power of coaching and mentorship in transforming both business and personal growth
• Why AI is reshaping the mortgage industry—and how to adapt without losing the human connection
• How to avoid burnout and redefine success through clarity, balance, and discipline
• The importance of writing your own “life plan” to align your work, relationships, and purpose
• Lessons from Michael’s journey—from journalism to origination to full-time coaching—that prove fulfillment comes from helping others grow

This conversation isn’t just about mortgages—it’s about building bigger lives, stronger relationships, and a mindset that thrives through every season.

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EP032 THE WAY RENE GODEFROY EXPORT_1

Speaker: ......;​[00:00:00] so you look at the people who are saying no to you as your opportunity to get to the yeses. 

Speaker 2: Well, this is one you're gonna want to sit and listen to from the very beginning to the very end, because Renee Godde Roy is spectacular. The man has overcome adversity beyond what you think is adversity. I mean, we're talking about poverty, a village in Haiti with no family, um, disease, no food, just terrible, a terrible situation for any child to be in.

And yet, not only did he survive, but he thrived. Found his way to America. He found his way to the hearts of many people. He auditioned, as he [00:01:00] says, for everything that he did, and he did it to the fullest extreme. So whatever job he did, he did it all the way, which got him noticed. That opened another door, and then another door and another door.

He eventually spoke it. He declared it that he wanted to be a motivational speaker and an author, and he did that. And now he's helping millions of people overcome adversity. He's helping millions of people just by motivating them enough to realize that they are blessed beyond means already. Don't let a bad day or a bad decision or a tough time.

Get ahold of you. Turn it around Now. I hope you really enjoy this podcast as much as I did. All right, so without further ado, here he is, Renee Gafro. Renee, thank you so much for joining us. 

Speaker: Thank you, Dino. It's a pleasure to share some insights and my story and my journey with your audience. 

Speaker 2: You know, I'm, I'm particularly excited [00:02:00] because I saw you on stage at Sales Mastery in Dallas just about a month or so ago now, and it was a very moving speech you gave, the time you spent up on stage brought a lot of people to tears.

I saw it personally. And, and I even came home and I told my, my, my wife asked, how, how was it right? And my kids were there 11 and 13, and I asked some questions to them. I started telling a few things. I saw nobody was interested, so I pivoted and I went right to your story and all of a sudden everybody was interested.

And, and it was, it was touching, but it was also a val valuable lesson. I was able to teach my kids. So I wanted you here because, you know, everybody listening here primarily does loans. They're in the mortgage business, and everything we talk about is always how to help them be better, right? How to get better, how to do more loans, how to treat their clients better, how to be better humans.

But, but the [00:03:00] reality is, it's not just about the skills they have on how they do loans and how they treat their clients and, and how to do business things, but I think the story, your story can, in my own words, get people off their butts and stop complaining about things that really aren't all that bad.

Because what you experienced in your life is 10 times worse than anything, anybody, a hundred times worse than anything anybody here is going through. And, and I love the fact that, that somebody listening right now today. Can hear it and hopefully get off their butt and say, I got nothing to complain about.

I am no longer going to complain about something that is meaningless and that I can overcome. So I want to get your story out. With that said, take it away, tell me how it all started and then I'm just gonna interject every once in a while to bring it back [00:04:00] into the long business again. 

Speaker: Thank you very much.

Wonderful introduction. And uh, yeah, it was a pleasure meeting you at the Sales Mastery. The journey started in a tiny village in Haiti, uh, very primitive. There was nothing in the village. My mom left me behind when I was only nine months old. Uh, not because she was a bad mother, but she figured out that was the best way to end, uh, poverty and misery for me.

And, uh, I stayed with a lady, uh, in the village. She didn't really. Care too much. But she kept me because of the benefits. Hoping my mom would send a bar of soap or some sugar. The people in the village, most of them gave up on me because right after my mom left several deadly diseases pounded me. I was very, very sick.

And they used to tease me. They used to ridicule me. They call me Suya and Coco Bay. Coco [00:05:00] Bay is a Creole word that means crippled. And Suya was actually a guy who was crippled in the village. So they believed if I survived, I would be crippled. But there was one person who actually cared in the village, uh, Dino, that was a great grandmama.

Uh, great-grandma Stefan. And, uh, she was about 90 plus years old, sick in bed. But whenever they would tease me, I would run to her and then she would tap me on my shoulder and she would say, your mom is coming for you. They used to give her a piece of bread. She would break it into half and put a half under her pillow and wait for me.

I was about six years old, six, six and a half years old. And I'd go say, good, good morning grandma. Good morning grandma. And she would reach under the pillow and give you the piece of bread. The only person who really cared. One morning I [00:06:00] went to her and said, good morning, grandma Stefan. And she didn't answer, she didn't even open her eyes, and I said it again.

The lady came from behind me and said, sorry, grandma Stefan passed away last night. And I remember I was this kid, I threw myself on the floor and I started crying. That was the moment, Dino, when I realized I didn't want to be in the village anymore. I didn't wanna face the teasing, the ridicule. Uh, there's one point I wanna make here.

People will try to predict your future. People will try to tell you what's good for you, what's not good for you. They'll try to discourage you. They'll, they might say directly or indirectly to you, they play God in your life. Just like those people in the village tried to play God in my life. But they are not your [00:07:00] maker.

The decision ultimately comes down to only one person. You, you decide and kiss clothes. When I said I di I didn't wanna be in the village anymore. There was a truck that used to come to the village every Wednesday, uh, by the name of Sifan. It was an old ancient truck. In fact, the first time I saw lights was the time I saw the headlights of a, of that truck at night.

And I got dizzy. I run away. I hid behind a tree. When the truck would come, I always hoped my mom would be on that truck. I would run to Mrs. Aan where the truck would stop to pick up people and to drop people off, and I would be as tall as the tire tapping on the side of the truck. Excuse me. Excuse me. Is my mama on this truck?

I would ask all the people I would run around the truck and ask, they say, no, your mama is [00:08:00] not on the truck. But please, if you see her in au Prince, the city, tell her I am suffering in the village. Life is so tough. The people who are teasing me tell her to bring for me. I would say 

Speaker 2: all Renee. I got, I got a couple questions real quick, and, and at that, at that age when your grandma died, how old were you?

I was seven years old. And how about when your mom left? 

Speaker: My mom left. I was only nine months old. I was, I was, I didn't know my mom. Oh, wow. Never before. When I became aware of my surrounding, they told me that she left, she went to Port-au-Prince, uh, to try to find a better way to provide for me. I was mad, I was angry.

I didn't want to really accept that excuse. Eventually she got the message and she sent for me. And now I was going to leave the village. I was going to go to Port-au-Prince to meet my mom for the [00:09:00] first time. I had a brother and a sister in Port-au-Prince. I did not know them. There was a guy, older guy, Stelli, who took me, um, who, who was my companion, took me to the city when I was leaving the village.

The other kids, they were kinda like sad because I saw them bathing in the water as I sat on the truck. My first stam on a call. Really? Uh, that was like a miracle to me. This thing is like taking me away. And they wave at me and I waved at them and they say, Wale, you are leaving us. As if they were gonna be sad or something.

Uh, but when I was in the village, they didn't really wanna play with me because I was too frail. I was too sick. Uh, when I speak, uh, today at Corporate America, I, the message is always very simple. Appreciate the people, uh, who work for you. Appreciate your team members. Don't wait until they are living to feel kind of [00:10:00] sad.

You want to give him an exit interview. I tell 'em all the time. Give him an a stay interview, not an exit interview. Show that you care appreciate them so that they can stay. That's how I felt when I was living the village. And now Dino, I'm in Port-au-Prince now. A village with one car coming through the village.

One dirt lane Road. Port-au Princes was crazy. Lots of cars, motorcycles, weaving through the crowd. The drivers, uh, uh, banging on the side of the top, top trucks move out of the way, move out of the way the street merchants yelling, mangoes, avocados, and a lot of noise. Busy city. And I was kind of confused. I was like seven year, seven years old.

And, and I remember Stella, he grabbed me and he said, son, welcome to Port-au-Prince. And he took me to where my mama lived. [00:11:00] I was thinking my mother was rich. 'cause hey, after all I saw so many cars, like Mercedes vans and all kind of cars in the city. I saw lights, street lights, and mama must be rich. But when I got there, I was disappointed.

Mama was not rich at all. She lived in a dungeon. Infested with rats and roaches. My brother, my sister, and I whom I met in the city, we slept on the floor, the dirt floor, with the rats and the roaches crossing over us all night. There were mornings when I would wake up, the rats would kneel the bottom of my feet, and now I have a message for the people listening to me, especially the people living in these United States of America, the land of which I'm so grateful for and so many take for granted.

The message is I am one of the [00:12:00] most, probably the most grateful human beings on the face of this planet because every day I wake up. In this great land of plenty and people are still complaining, people are still making excuses. I mean, like when I talk to salespeople and I tell them how many doors that you have, you can knock on, how many times can you be rejected and still be massively successful because there are many doors to knock on.

You are in America. This is the United States of America, and gratitude is, my heart is full of gratitude. I, I would go to the gas station and I put like $50 in my car. I'm not even thinking about it. Most people now listening to me, it's just like, yeah, I just fill up my tank. But do you know that $50 is a [00:13:00] lot of money for millions or even billions of people around the world?

We have to wake up every single day. We have to count our blessings. Dino, I believe that gratitude is the key that unlocks the vault of abundance. Like if, if you got a rejection, if you, for example, did all the paperwork and this person decided to go to like another route, they didn't wanna go with you, you still have a million or probably on, uh, let me say unlimited opportunities.

You can move away from that person and still be grateful that this rejection means I'm still in the United States. There are still more opportunities. Say, 

Speaker 2: say that. Say that quote again. [00:14:00] The gratitude is the key that unlocks what? The vault of abundance. 

Speaker: It's, it's, it's impossible to be grateful and be depressed at the same time.

Yes, that cannot happen if you are depressed. I'm not talking about being clinically depressed, right? Like business is not doing good. You're not closing enough cells. If you feel that way, that's because you are not grateful. You are not grateful for the few yeses that you received in the past and those that are coming in the future.

You are focusing on the rejections, on the nos, on what's working. So the gratitude is like I do one hour meditation every single day. The, a good 20 minutes of those, uh, of that one hour is about gratitude because I know it [00:15:00] is the key to the vault of abundance. No matter how bad things are for you, no matter how tough is the time for you right now, you still have millions of things to be grateful for.

At least you wake up in America. 

Speaker 2: So, lemme so let me ask you this question.

How, how do you, how do you fix this? There's, I don't even know how to ask the question exactly. You were in a situation where it was true survival and, and then you figured out how to have gratitude, but first you had to survive. People here don't have to survive. And they throw a fit over something minor when what they still have should be gratitude over everything else that they still [00:16:00] have.

Right? I mean, they have so much, but, but how do you get through to these people, right? That, that are struggling with, uh, with whatever it is that's failing in their life. But after listening to you, I'm just gonna say with how do you get through to people that are struggling with gratitude? Because if, 'cause they obviously don't have it, if they feel like they're struggling with something, what do you do?

How do you do that? How do you fix that in these people? 

Speaker: Oh, as a leader, the first thing is compassion. You have to realize that people are living their programming. It's not their fault. Right. They don't know that there are other ways, other opportunities. They don't know that there are alternatives. They don't know that they are living in the world of infinite possibilities, right?

And so what they keep, so I talk a lot about quantum mechanics. Uh, quantum mechanics is everything is a wave of [00:17:00] probability possibilities. But most of us, for example, when the motivational speaker I am today, uh, I, I was that motivational speaker when I was a kid in the village in Haiti, that version of me already existed as a wave of probability possibility.

Now, the moment I align myself, I'm on the same frequency. Frequency with that motivational speaker, I step into it. Okay, so most people collapse the wave in a way that does not serve them. So every problem shows up with a solution. It's impossible for a problem to show up without a solution, otherwise it would not be called a problem.

Alright? So the opportunities within that problem, we are gonna see that [00:18:00] opportunity or opportunities based on the question that we ask ourselves. So if we can ask, uh, the people who are dealing with it the right questions and get them to shift their focus, because your question will determine the direction you are heading to.

For example, if you say, how come I am so broke? You will only get answers about why you are broke. If you ask the question, how come I keep getting rejections? That's the answers you will get. But if you get the, the question is, how can I get more yeses? How can I make more money instead of how come I am so broke?

The moment you change your question, you change your reality. You collapse the wave to a new reality that serves you. When I say compassion, let's go back to when I was in Port-au-Prince one day. I was really hungry, I was really starving. [00:19:00] I went to this lady, uh, by the name of Tida in the neighborhoods.

She was just as poor as the rest of us, but she was like a prophetess to me. She could predict the future. And I went to her. I was crying. I said, TIDA, life is not fair. How come I'm so hungry? And my mom has nothing to feed us? I don't think I'll ever be anything. I don't wanna be in this life anymore. I remember tida grabbing my hand with a lot of compassion, and she looked at me, which is what leaders do straight in the eyes, like with a penetrating stare.

So compassionate. And she said, Renee, hunger comes, hunger goes, just because you are hungry doesn't mean you don't wanna live anymore. And she told me, Renee, there is something in you that [00:20:00] is there forever. That is your resilience. That is your spirit, Renee. Stay in the fight. One day you're gonna make a name for yourself.

One day people going to be inspired by your story all over the world. She predicted that. So the leader can do that for every single person you can show them. They cannot see because of so many, uh, the problems, the rejections or whatever, or maybe what they've been through life. All those things create a barrier.

They cannot see a bright future. So just at tida, the leader can paint that picture for them, can help soon as after she said that. I went to a place called Shadow Marsh. And Shadow Marsh in Port-au-Prince was like, uh, in Paris or uh, central Park. The American tourists used to come to Hondo Marsh. They had, uh, [00:21:00] carnivals and all kinds of activities there.

And I was this kid walking behind the American tourist with an extended hand begging for whatever they could afford. One American couple gave me a dime, and the lady touched me. Circum compassionately. As a result of that, I said to myself, one day I'm gonna go to America to eat lots of rice and chickens.

That was it for me. Right? But you know, today I'm about sick of rice and chickens. Life is good, right? I want, I want the C, all the lobster. But that, that was the dream for me to come to America because rice and chickens were luxury for us in Haiti because we were so poor. And I, the moment I said that I collapsed the wave of probability or possibilities to one possibility, I'm going to the United [00:22:00] States of America.

The moment you collapse, the wave is not enough to collapse the wave, but you have to be able to see it, feel it, and visualize it. You know what I did? I began to collect little American flags. I would go to slip with them on the floor and I'd looked at them and I, I, when I would see the airplanes taking off and I would be mesmerized and see myself on one of those airplanes.

To me, America was de promised land. I knew if I ever come to America, that's all I need. I will find my way, I will do whatever is necessary. I would be willing to pay the price to live the American dream. And sure enough, it happened for me. It was, it, it took, it was a long window of time. 'cause I was 21 the first [00:23:00] time I was at the airport and I was not heading to America.

I was going to Montreal, Canada. I remember the first time I step inside the airplane. I touched the carpet for the first time. It felt so good. The chair, I sat in the chair, I kind of like wiggled, you know, like I'm wiggling. It felt so night. The flight attendant looked at me and said, are you, are you okay, sir?

I said, oh ma'am, you just don't understand. This is my first time. This thing is really good and I'm smelling the food coming from. That's when they used to have real food on airplanes, right? If you old enough, you know what I'm talking about. I'm smelling the food. And she came, she said, uh, sir, what is your choice, Mr.

Yoda, for? Uh, do you want chicken? Do you want beef? And she started giving me choices. And I'm like, really? I have a choice. For the first time in [00:24:00] my life, I have a choice. And I looked at her, I said, can you give me everything, please? And she said, oh, sure. I'll put a little bit of everything on the plate for you.

And now, boom, I am in Canada, a great country. But make no mistake, uh, Canada is not the promised land was not the promised land to me. The United States was the promised land. I found a way to make it in the United States. That was like 42 years ago. I was 21 years old, right? And I am in Canada. And I began to inquire.

I, I even went to the American Consulate to try to get a visa, and I got denied, but eventually I made it to America. It wasn't a safe trip, but I made a promise. I said, God, I promise you, if you help me make it to America safe, I will not waste [00:25:00] my life. And I kept my promise. Now, since I've been in these United States of America, I've never been to the unemployment line.

I, I have to really make this straight. Never been to the unemployment line. I've never begged or asked for anything because all I needed, I needed to be here in this country because I knew the moment I arrive here, I will find the opportunities. They are everywhere. I know people are born here. It's hard for them to see the opportunities.

But I was not born here. I came here, I saw them. Uh, look, I'm, I'm, I'm in America Dinner, okay? I didn't speak English. No, I didn't speak any English whatsoever, but I learned two words. Same thing. Same thing. So I started using those two words to the match everywhere I would go, like I remember [00:26:00] going to McDonald's, I didn't know what to order.

The person in front of me would order, I would slide stand right behind the person. When they say, may I take your order, sir? I'd say same thing now, you know, same thing was not always same thing, right? It was different, different time. To this day, I'm still using those two words because I talk about modeling success.

Let's talk about modeling success for a moment. There are people in your office, Dino, there are people in offices with rockstar sales professionals. People who are crushing it in spite of the economy, in spite of what's going on in Washington DC or in America. There are still people crushing it. What do I do?

I steady their success. I'm not here to reinvent the Wheel of success. People come to a [00:27:00] company, they have systems that they can follow step by step, right? Like if I'm talking to you, you are my mentor. I wanna know what time do you go to lunch? You tell me at 1130, I'm gonna go to lunch at 1130. I'm talking about step by step.

I'm going to follow the script. 

Speaker 2: Go ahead. I always say success leaves behind clues. 

Speaker: That's right. Success leaves clues. And if we don't pay attention, we'll never see them. And the clues are all around us. The superstars, the people crushing it out there, they are doing something right. Why not steady their success?

People ask me all the time. Um, how did you go from being a doorman, which is how I started my speaking career, right? Well, first I was in Miami. Okay. I know I'm jumping right. I'm, you can stop me anytime if you want some clarity. Uh, Dino, 

Speaker 2: I'm, I'm going to come back at the [00:28:00] end and ask you a ton of questions.

I've been taking notes. 

Speaker: Absolutely. Okay, great. I'm in Miami. I don't speak English, and I went to McDonald's to, uh, I was looking for a job. The guy didn't give me the job because I didn't speak English. Now, mind you, I was applying to pick up trash in the parking lot. So on my way out, I got really mad. I, I was, I was thinking do the trash cans in America speak English.

Alright. But on my way back, there's a thing that goes, don't get bitter, get better. On my way back, I saw a parking lot, uh, a bank called Total Bank, south Miami. I saw a lot of people with nice cars going to the bank, and I had an idea. I was like, those people are business people. They are busy. They don't have time to [00:29:00] wash their cars.

What if. I started washing cars in that parking lot. I had $3. If you want to know how to start a business in America with $3, lemme tell you. I went to Goodwill, I bought me some used towels. I went to the Dollar store. I bought me a bucket and a bottle of dish washing soap. That back then everything was like 50 cents a dollar.

For real. In the dollar store, not like today. Right? And I went to the bank and I started knocking on doors. I was walking behind the American tourist. That's the, that's the thing I remember when I was a kid now, now this time, I'm not a kid. I'm 21 years old. I'm not asking for a handout. Because like, you know, I don't believe in that.

I was doing that in Haiti because I had no choice. By the way, if my mom knew I would be in trouble, even though she was poor, she didn't. The [00:30:00] concept of asking for a handout is out of the picture for my mom. Okay? I began to knock on doors, excuse me. Excuse me. Wash. Wash. And I have my towel, I and one rejection after another.

No, no, no. But guess what? I'm in America. I'm in America. There are some yeses on the other side of the nose. I knew intuitively resilience. If I stay with it, if I kept asking, somebody will say yes. And here's the thing about the nose. The nose will put you in a mood. It'll put you in a mindset that will, it's like the law of attraction.

It'll put you in a frequency and a, a vibration that will keep attracting more people to you to say no until you stop focusing on the no. You keep focusing on the Yes. So you look at the people who are saying no to you as [00:31:00] your opportunity to get to the yeses. Sure enough, one guy at the bank said yes. He was driving a green sob.

You remember Saab? I 

Speaker 2: do, 

Speaker: yeah. And uh, I detailed that car as if it was going to go to a showroom because it was my opportunity every time we are delivering our services. Our product. We are auditioning, we are showcasing for more businesses. I have people who complain business is not good. Well, how many, how many sales did you close?

They'll say just that. Three or five. Okay. Let me show you how to multiply those five. I I, I would go to a wedding and, um, I remember I saw this lady at a wedding doing the catering [00:32:00] service, and I, I told her, do you realize they paid you to showcase in front of 300 people at this wedding? Do you realize that?

What are you doing to leverage this opportunity? She didn't know. Every time, again, I'm gonna say that you are performing, you are delivering your product or service, and in fact, it is called the moment of truth in customer service. It's your opportunity to showcase, like it's crazy. People pay you to showcase your product and your service.

That's what I did with that Green sob. The guy came out and he said, how much, and when he saw the car, he couldn't believe it. He, he, he said, how much? I said, 2, 2, 2, 2, $2, sir. He gave me $5 and he said, how long are you gonna be here? I said, oh, oh, he, yes [00:33:00] sir. Here, I'm gonna be here. He said, hold on. He went inside the, the bank.

His uncle was one of the top executives in the bank. Next thing I know, another guy came, he said, are you already there? Are you ready? I said, yes, yes. Yeah. He gave me his skis. I took the keys, same thing again. I was, I was auditioning again. I was showcasing again. And he came back. This, I didn't know how much, right the first time.

I said 2, 2, 2. And then when he came back, he said, how much? That second guy, I say, oh no, I say $5, five. Now I know my price. Right? And then my business started in that parking lot in the bank. People just like, they couldn't get enough of me. You know? They just keep bringing me more and more business like, like there are people, you have a few customers right now, it's like a cemetery.

They are, they are like dead customers, but every person is connected with so many people. Like you can [00:34:00] buy a $10, uh, Starbucks gift card and write a handwritten thank you note and put that and send it to that person. Just let them know if they know anybody. Who might benefit from your products or service.

That's it. And that alone can build your business. So that was my opportunity in America. And, you know, my business took off right until a maintenance manager came. And, um, he figured I was using too much water in electricity inside the bank. He basically fired me. But something, when I was in the bank, Dino, I used to see the top flow.

And, um, I always ask myself, who gets to go to the top flow now? Uh, even though it was very hot outside, I could step inside the bank on the first floor, get a little ac, but [00:35:00] I didn't know I could, as a new immigrant, unable to speak English. But I used to say to myself one day. I will go to the top floor, even if I had to go there to pick up the trash to be a janitor.

I left the bank and went to the whole journey, become a, became a doorman. And the whole thing, you know, I, I've done a lot of things. I was a CNA certified nursing assistant, taking care of a Jewish man by the name of Mr. Ovitz, and I took excellent care of him. Again, I was showcasing when he passed away in the hospital in my hands, like, like just me and him, around two o'clock in the morning.

The family, everybody in the family, they went crazy. They wanted me to come work for them, do this for them, like, you know, I like so many offers. I was in my twenties. So many offers came to me because of what I did for Mr. [00:36:00] Ovitz. Okay. And you know, after Mr. Ovitz, that's how I got the job at the hotel. I became a doorman at, at, at that hotel, uh, taking care of, you know, delivering superior, excellent customer service at the door.

And again, that opened, no pun intended so many doors for me while I was a doorman, still at the hotel, because I had this thing in my head. Every time I'm deli, every time I'm delivering my product or service, I'm literally showcasing. Thus, that's why I'm having this conversation with you, Dino. You saw me on the stage and, uh, you saw how I was connecting with the audience.

Because, because, and this connection is not by accident. It's because I was, uh, I was listening to Todd Duncan. He was, he, he told, he said he, he, he said a [00:37:00] story about, um, uh, what's his name again? Dan Marino, I believe. Right. The, the football player, right? Yeah. And he asked him, I think that's, I think that was the name he said, and he asked him, he met him.

He said, how many hours, how long do you take to prepare for a game? And he said, minimum, 50 hours. 50 hours. That's when I was thinking, wow. Fi for a guy who is a superstar on the team, he spends 50 hours to prepare for one game. How many hours am I spending. To prepare before I meet with that one client, that one customer, to know as much as I can about this one customer.

How many hours do I spend to meditate to prepare myself before I go have that meeting, which [00:38:00] books, which chapter I'm reading to center myself to get ready. When I get there, I can be fully present. That's what I do before every speaking engagement. I spend so much time researching the client, understanding them, right, and then I go to the room, I see the room.

Then in my hotel room, I close my eyes and I spend one hour and I go to that room. In my imagination and create everything you saw that was happening in the room. I saw it before. The audience could actually see it. And people say, don't you get nervous? No, I don't because this is a return visit for me.

I've been there before. And that's a lesson for people. Stop taking your clients, your customers for granted. Right? Stop under, uh, start understanding. They are [00:39:00] the gateway for you. You are auditioning, prepare, prepare, prepare value that one customer, I'm telling you, uh, you'll become a superstar in your company.

You will be a rock star in your company in no time if you keep that in mind. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm just gonna comment a little bit. Um, I, I have a saying that I, you know, I, when I'm talking and coaching is that. You know, don't get excited about a five star review on Google or Yelp. I, I said, it's almost an insult because you're doing your job adequately.

You didn't piss anybody off. And, and that to me doesn't get you, it doesn't grow your business. And in our numbers, a hundred million, right? Like a hundred million dollar a year. Producer is a big producer. You don't get to a hundred million by getting five star reviews. You get to a hundred million. By having systems in place, showcasing [00:40:00] every opportunity you get, additioning, as you say, right?

And then getting a 10 star review, even though it doesn't exist, you have to get the 10 star review every single time. Otherwise, you will not get referrals from people. Otherwise, you will not get repeat business from people doing your job adequately and getting a five star review means nothing. And, and it fits in perfectly to what you're saying because you have an opportunity every single time you have a client to, to, to show off, showcase, audition at the very highest level you possibly can.

And that alone can 10 x your business every single time, 

Speaker: 10 x every single time you colla with that one cu uh, uh, customer in front of you, you collapse the wave of opportunity as if this is the [00:41:00] only person in the world right now and you are fully committed, whatever you will do. And as a doorman, the reason I was so successful is anticipation.

I'm always anticipating what the guests will need during their stay at the hotel. 

Speaker 2: So my, my father, uh. Recently, I've been thinking a lot about him. He passed away about 12 years ago. He is a Greek immigrant, came here when he was 20 and loved our country. Loved it. Said it. There is no place on earth that gives you so much opportunity to make money doing the darnedest things that you can't make money in other places, doing the kind of things you can do here.

Right. And and I think about, as you're telling me, a lot of the stories, I think a lot about my father. Uh, [00:42:00] he didn't take days off in the beginning. He got the worst jobs in the world because they were the only jobs he could get. But he told me a story one time about, 'cause you know, uh, still to this day, a lot of the Greeks, any culture, whatever, right?

They still don't speak good English. And I asked him, and he said it's because they never got out of the kitchen because when the opportunity was there, they didn't bother trying to learn. They didn't bother trying to educate themselves. They just stayed where they, they stayed in their lane. They never bother changing lanes.

Right. He goes, I, I kept trying to mimic other people that were successful, which is exactly what you were said, right? I, I kept trying to learn how to be better and, and I learned how to read and I learned. So eventually I got out of the back of the house and went into the front of the house. And it's [00:43:00] another reason why everybody, you know why Greeks are in the restaurant business?

'cause where else could they work? They always started in the restaurant. 'cause in the back of the house, that's where the jobs were. But my dad got out to the front of the house and, and he kept getting better and better and better. And, and that gave him that opportunity. So if, if you and my dad. Who didn't have any money and didn't speak a language, could communicate with people without being able to speak the same language and show love.

I think you were showing love to people and anticipate my dad. You know, when you said that it clicked because my dad anticipated every single time we, I grew up in the fast food business and, and you know, there was, I'll tell a quick story. So a lot of the Greeks, he said on the menu, they would put everything you could possibly imagine on the menu [00:44:00] and, and he hated that.

He loved the in and out style. I dunno if you have in and outs where you're at, but it's just, it's a very limited menu. And he told me, he goes, Dino, they don't call it fast food for nothing. If you have a fast food restaurant and you can't produce food fast, you're failing. So he goes, you need to anticipate.

You see two guys walking up. He goes, if you have a huge menu, you don't know what to put down. If you have a limited menu, you're gonna put down two hamburgers. He goes, by the way, if they look like construction guys, make it two doubles. Make it a french fry, make it a large Coke. Anticipate, have it ready, give it to him right there.

And, and you being the doorman, you could anticipate. And I think the lessons we should learn for the common person that, that that was handed luxury, that was handed blessings right out of the womb, we, we should not take that for granted and we shouldn't be spoiled. We talk so often about how the younger generation is spoiled.

Well, we all [00:45:00] are, we're all spoiled. And, and we all need to get beyond ourselves and think about others and think about how we can give gratitude to the world. And I believe it'll all come back to us 10 x. 

Speaker: Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Yeah. Your dad was a very, very wise man. Uh, I love, uh, by the way, I love Greek, Greek foods, the gyro.

And, and we have one here at the mall. Uh, what was it, the franchise that you guys were involved with, or? 

Speaker 2: No, no. Uh, everything my dad just created on his own. Um, and like, like any good Greek, they usually name the restaurants after him. So it was Mr. Pete's. And then later he went towards Mexican and he called it, uh, senior Pedros.

And, and everybody kept asking how we got the food to taste so good. And, and the reality is it was Greek style. We would put, uh, Greek [00:46:00] oregano and lemon on everything. And, and that's how our, our food tasted so good. 

Speaker: Yeah. But yeah. Um, I, I hope the people listening do, you know, they really, you talk about having systems, uh, earlier.

It is great to have systems, but um, we also need implementation. Most people are addicted to information, but they are allergic to implementation, right? Yeah. So we have to implement if we, the system means nothing without the right people who are taking consistent action to make it happen. And we know most people know what to do.

It's not, we are not perishing today for lack of information. We are perishing for lack of implementation if we can discipline ourselves every single day. And growing up, you watch your dad the kind of discipline that he had, like [00:47:00] that's how he was able to create what he created. It's the implementation, consistent implementation just like you in this podcast.

Your consistency. That's why this podcast is successful. That's why you have so many downloads. 'cause you are consistent. So people who are listening now make a commitment to yourself that you are going to implement what you already know. It's not you, you don't need any more knowledge anymore. What I do, Dino, I remind people of what they already know.

I'm not teaching anything new. There's nothing I said right now that is new information to anybody. My job is to remind you of what you know and to inspire you or to even challenge you to start imple massive implementation. That's the key. 

Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that from Tony [00:48:00] Robbins before. Yeah. Yeah. He, he speaks a lot about that and how, you know, without it, without implementation knowledge means nothing.

Right. It's worthless. So I, I like that. So, I, I wanna know what was, let's call it your big break. Was it becoming a doorman? Maybe it was a, a, a pathway, but still there is a big jump from being a doorman to where you are today. Yeah. Tell me about that. 

Speaker: Yeah, there's, um, there's a big jump. I'm a doorman. After Mr.

Ovitz, uh, one of the family members actually helped me get a job at the hotel. 'cause they own an attorney. They, they were attorneys. They own a, a big law firm. They were representing Soffer, uh, back then, Soffer Hotels. I'm a, a dominant at the hotel. I am actually [00:49:00] learning a lot or learning how to communicate.

I'm discovering books on the back seat of the cars. And I'm reading those books. No, excuse me. I I was not reading books back then. I was studying books. I'm studying those books. One of the books that I found is by a lady called, uh, Dody Walters, God bless our Soul. It, it's, I believe the name of it is Speak and Grow Rich.

So I discovered suddenly you can run your mouth in America and get paid for it. What a country. I said to myself, Hey, I've been running my mouth all my life for free. I mean, why not? Now listen carefully. Who said? I said I'm going to be a motivational speaker? Who said that? I did. You don't wait for [00:50:00] permission from anybody.

You are already pre-approved. You don't need approval from anybody. If you say it, you declare it and you believe it, not just believing it, you know it for certain that it is your birthright because you would not have a desire if there were no opportunities to fulfill the desire. Slowly, I'm gonna say that you will never have a desire unless there are provision already for you to achieve whatever it is you want to achieve.

So when you have, so when I said I was going to become a motivational speaker, many people didn't really believe that I could. I remember this one guy, he was my supervisor, and I went to him and I said, uh, I'm going to be a motivational speaker. He said, huh? [00:51:00] You're gonna be a motivational speaker. I mean, like, who's going to listen to you with your Haitian accent?

Uh, the way it is. I said, yeah, I'm gonna be a motivational speaker. In fact, I'm going to write a book. A book. He said, do you have any credentials? You have a PhD? I said, yes, I do. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, I'm a doorman. I've seen it all. Yeah. 

Speaker: I said, I have a, a, a, a, PhD. My PhD is for, P is for persistence, H is for hope, and D is for dream.

When I share my dream or my goals with anybody, I am not looking for approval. I'm looking for a little bit of encouragement. If you cannot give it to me, you need to get out of my face. That's all there is to it. Case close, and, and, and I went out. I, I, I took consistent [00:52:00] action every single day. Even while I was a doorman, I was already writing my book.

I was already creating my little brochure in a program called Quack, quack Express back then. And, uh, I'm doing everything, every step you take every single day. We wash you. Remember I talk about. The versions of yourself that that already in existence. Every call you make, every step, every meeting you go to, you are aligning yourself.

You are putting yourself in the frequency of that person or that achievement or that dream until you are in total alignment with that frequency. Just like a radio station, you are turning that dial. Every step that you take, you are turning the dial. And then once you get into the right frequency and bam, because the universe does not give you what you want, the universe only give you [00:53:00] what you are.

Until you become that person, you are vibrating talking and walking into that frequency. You can never attract that which you want. You can pray all you want. You will pray. However, if within you, you don't really know for certain, you don't really believe, you don't really see it before you can have it.

Like smell it and touch it and feel it in every fiber of your being and know that you know, that you know this is yours. This belongs to you. It's not gonna happen. You gotta be in that fragrance. That's what I was doing as a doorman. I met this guy Dino, and uh, I was doing my, I call it the god of war doorman philosophy, that's what I call it, right?

And I was doing my thing at the door, and this guy was standing there [00:54:00] watching me. I didn't know why he was watching me. And then so, uh, because I'm, I'm heading to my big break to you, right? I don't know why he was watching me. And, uh, I went to her, I said, uh, uh, sir, may I serve you? And he looked at me, he said.

Are you planning on working here for the rest of your life? I said, no, sir. I have a dream. I'm going to be a motivational speaker. Remember, I'm declaring it. I'm declaring it. Uh, as a matter of fact, I'm working on a book, sir. Uh, I'm going to share stages with all the big names out there. When he heard me, actually, he was working for Aflac.

Uh, his question was a recruiting question because he was recruiting people in the, in the field, right? When he heard my passion, my fire, my commitment, my desire, he just gave me his business card and said to me, keep my business card. You never know. [00:55:00] One day we might do business. I took the business card, I went home, and I pinned it next to my desk, and I kept looking at it.

I kept saying one day I'm going to be the keynote speaker for Aflac, because they used to have the conference, uh, at the hotel every year. Okay. And guess what I used to do? And I'm saying all of this to show people how to activate the law of abundance in your favor. The law of attraction is not about, you know, saying or repeating stuff.

It's about doing and doing and doing to put yourself in that same frequency. When I would get off at the hotel at 11 o'clock, everybody would be going home and I would be heading to the ballroom where they prepare, uh, for the conference, the opening keynote speaker in the morning, and I'd go to that ballroom at night, just me and the empty [00:56:00] chairs.

I'd deliver my speech to the chairs, and I'd say, this is my audience now. Uh, the chairs, they, they, they couldn't go to the bathroom or anything. They were a captive audience, you know what I mean? They had to be, and I would just declare and decree and see it and visualize it. I would do that so many times, 10 years later, I left the hotel.

Now I'm speaking full time. I'm like, you know, ready. But the phone was not ringing. The calendar was empty. I took my chance and I took the leap. Okay. 

Speaker 2: And how old and how old were you at this point? 

Speaker: I, I'm, at this point I'm like 30. Hmm. I was like probably 36 or 38 years old. Um, I was, you know, I started at the hotel in my late twenties.

I was there for like 15 years. O 15 years at the hotel. Right. And, um. The phone rang back then, we didn't have [00:57:00] cell phone or anything. Caller id. I picked it up. It says Aflac. And I say, hi, this is Renee Voy. And the voice goes, hi, this is Len Osborne. I said, Mr. Osborne, I remember you, sir. You gave me your card.

Let me read your card to you. And I pulled the card and I read the card to him and I read his, he said, son, everything is wrong on the card except for my name. Back then he was a sales field coordinator, but now he is a vice president for Aflac. And he said, I was looking on Google for a motivational speaker in Atlanta and you showed up and I remember you now.

Now do you see he went to Google, he typed motivational speaker in Atlanta. He saw me, not by accident, 'cause back then I mastered search engine optimization. I was dominating the search engine and I studied it, right? And he [00:58:00] said, we have a conference going on and there's a senator who is supposed to be there and, but there's a mandate.

He, he can't leave Washington dc We are considering you. I said, okay, great. He said, give me two weeks and I'll let you know, uh, if it's a definite. And sure enough, two weeks. That was a definite, he booked me and that one off like keynote. When I went on that stage, I just stood on that stage and look at the audience.

I said, so many times I've been on this stage in front of you. And I told 'em the story, how I used to do that at the hotel, and I give that speech and the rest is history. I got so many bookings for Aflac. I was traveling all over the country speaking for Aflac. And that was a big breakthrough for me, besides when I keyed the National Speakers Association and the, that, that was it for me.

Right. And that one [00:59:00] speech, bam, really did it for me. But when I was at the hotel, when the, when I said I was going to be a motivational speaker, Dino, and I know time is really, uh, the, the clock is really ticking. I, I, I said I, I waited, I, I would go to the schedule to find out who are the motivational speakers who are coming to Keynote.

The conferences and I would see, uh, Jeffrey Gi, have you heard of Jeffrey Gitr? No. Yeah. He is like the King of Cells. Wrote a lot of book that sells Bible and a lot of back then. Right. And I would see Den Barris and a bunch of big names. What I would do, I'd, I'd, I'd make sure they scheduled me when they're coming and, uh, I'm there as a doorman, I would meet them.

Hi sir, I'm Renee Garre. Welcome to the Waverly Renaissance Hotel. I'm going to be your doorman and I'm here to serve you, but I have a dream, sir. I'm gonna be a motivational speaker just like you. [01:00:00] I'm gonna share a stage with you. One day. I am saying all of that. And then sure enough, I saved all my tip money, the tips that I was making.

I went to my first conference for the National Speakers Association, and I went straight to all of those big names. Hi sir. This is your doorman from Atlanta. So remember me. I told you I was gonna be a motivational speaker. Here I am. That's how I got connected with all the big names, all the speakers, and then that's it.

Speaker 2: So I got, I got some questions. Um, I'm gonna tie this back in 'cause it's kind of interesting. I've been spending a lot of time on AI in the last, I, I'm, I told myself I'm gonna do a 30 day sprint where I'm gonna learn everything I can about AI and start implementing. Right now, I'm in the process of trying to create my clone.

And in, in order to do that, I have to give a lot of context to the clone to know who I [01:01:00] am and why I am the way I am. So I asked it to ask me a lot of questions, whatever it needs in order to be able to produce the perfect clone. And what came up was my dad a lot and, and I had the luxury of having a father who spoken to me all the time.

He made me an extremely resilient man who's not afraid of work and who has a positive outlook and can turn every negative situation into good. So I resonated a lot with everything you said early on. Right? And, and how, if there's a problem, it also comes with something good on the other side, right? And, and if, and if you have faith, you can't be depressed.

You can't be negative, right? Like, I, I resonate with all that stuff and I think to myself, [01:02:00] in the early years, I'm gonna say I was, I wasn't compassionate to people. 'cause I'm like, why can't you be like this? And, and I realized not everybody grew up the way I did. I realized some people had a terrible upbringing, terrible parents, terrible scenario.

But. You had a terrible beyond terrible situation. You didn't have your mother from nine months until seven years you had a grandmother, and I don't know how much she spoke into you, but it sounds like, you know, she at least showed you some love, but that's all you had. You didn't speak of a father, so I'm not sure what that scenario was about.

Yeah. Didn't exist, right? Mm-hmm. How did you have this resilience? And I know there was a piece there in the early years where it was survival, but you got mocked, [01:03:00] radical ridiculed by the kids. You, you had no love, not anything that would get you to where you're at today to be the kind of man that you are.

How, how did you do this? And I'm assuming in the early years you didn't even have. Motivational people to hear on the radio or through a cassette or a book, 'cause you probably didn't even know how to read. Tell me how you became, how you had this 

Speaker: fir the the first thing when it comes to resilience is hope is to know, and I'm going to say that again.

No matter what, anybody who's listening or who's watching, no matter what you are facing right now, you already have the power within you to overcome any obstacles, any challenge. Okay. On the other side of this [01:04:00] challenge, on the other side of this circumstance, this issue. Is where the prize is. You cannot get to it.

So hope is this one little pilot light that is inside of you waiting to be ignited. Okay? When it comes to resilience, understand this shall pass, but only if you stay with it. There was a minister who said, when God sends you a gift, he wraps it up in a problem. The bigger is the problem, the bigger is the gift, but most people run away from the problem.

By the way, a problem you call a problem is nothing but uh, a wave that you collapse. You collapse the wave into a problem. The reason I say that, because [01:05:00] that problem to you is a solution to other people, you see a problem. They see an opportunity, an opportunity to increase their income, to make more money, to start a business, to create something big.

When, when whatever it is that you are dealing with, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I can give it to you in writing. If you stay with it, stay with it. Now people around you will suggest that you quit that. Man, the mortgage industry is dead. The interest rates are so high. Uh, it's, I don't see a way out, find something else to do.

Okay? Many people will bail out. I think it was, I read about 95,000, uh, Los bailed out to quit the industry. Right? Yeah. What does that mean? More opportunity for those who stay with it? That's all there is, [01:06:00] right? 

Speaker 2: Yeah. 

Speaker: If you stay with it, I'm gonna say that again. If you dare to stay with it, I promise you, I guarantee you will succeed massively.

Most of the winners you see out there, find out how many years. I'm never interested in what people have, like the houses, the mentions, the cause, the material possessions. I am interested in the journey. Yeah, I'm interested. That's why I love to read autobiographies, because that's what I'm looking for.

What did, just like your question, what kept you in the race for so long? That's what I want, that those are the clues I want to find out. Right? I'm not going to say I want to call like you. I wanna home like you, I wanna, I wanna study you. I wanna spend time with you. I wanna find out the times when you wanted to give up.

By the way, every single person, every single person, billionaires, millionaires, have thought [01:07:00] about quitting at one point or another, but the difference is they did not quit. They stayed with it. That's the key. I mean, I, I hope I had a magic solution or something big to tell you, but it's that simple. It's not complicated.

If you dare to stay with it, that's what resilience is about. You're gonna fall. You're gonna bounce back, you're gonna fall, you're gonna bounce back. In fact, if you are not falling, then you know, maybe you should find something else to do. If you are not experiencing rejections objections, if you're not experiencing those disappointments, you should find something else to do because that's the way the obstacles as, as they say they are, the way, that's how you get to the prize and that's all it takes when it comes to resilience.

So that's what I always had going for me. I knew if I stayed with it, [01:08:00] like the speaking industry, look, it's not a very, it's not an easy business. You, the moment I get off a stage, I'm unemployed.

I have to find another, another way, another opportunity. It's not easy, but the secret. I'm going to keep knocking on doors. I'm going to stay with it. 

Speaker 2: I, I think that's probably the reason why I named this podcast The Way, because it's, it's, um, you know, successes behind clues, right? It's like, show me the way and, and it's great, but I, you know, and you said something, you gotta stick with it.

Stick with it. And I think was at a Tony Robbins seminar a long time ago, and he said, you know, all too often most people quit within a millimeter of hitting it. They're that close. In fact, he gave an example of a guy that was, uh, drilling for oil [01:09:00] and it just, he knew it. He knew it, but it just wasn't working.

He finally gave up and somebody else came in and within a millimeter away, it was one of the biggest oil fines. And, and the thing is, is I'm gonna add something to it. You gotta stick with it. But sometimes if what you're doing isn't working, change. Maybe what you're doing isn't working because of how you're doing it or maybe what you've done your whole life that worked so well just doesn't work anymore.

And it's time to, to maneuver. It's time to change. And, and I think that's super important because in, in today's world, we have change happening. There is no way around it. No matter what industry you're in, if you just think I'm gonna keep doing things the way I've always done it, chances are you're gonna do something that's gonna take you right out of a job one day if [01:10:00] you don't 

Speaker: adapt.

You know, this is so powerful. Let's talk about ai. I know you mentioned it a moment ago. The world that you and I used to do business with today with artificial intelligence is a radically different world. I feel sorry for people who are not mastering ai. 'cause they're go, they are going to be completely left behind and they'll never be able to catch up.

Right. You, you, you, you are talking about if it's not working, yes, of course. The old ways will not work. From now on, you're gonna need some new strategies. You're going to need to learn AI to master ai, to spend time with the AI so that the AI can really know you almost intimately. I mean, like, I really spend hours and hours, hours and hours with ai.

Uh, my AI knows me. Just like you were talking about the way you train your ai, [01:11:00] right? Yeah. The way your AI knows you, right? And you are leveraging it today, this is a new radically, radically different world. So the old, the things you used to do, now, some principles will never change. That's why they call them principles.

'cause principles don't change. Right? It's just like the AI now is going to be a tool for you to leverage those principles to reach out to people to communicate better. That's what is going to be. So, I'm so glad you mentioned that. If it's not working for you, that doesn't mean it's not working. It's just mean.

You need to change. Like Tony Robbins always say, change your approach. Try another way. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring up my, my family for a minute. My kids, my wife, my wife is a little behind on the ai and I get it, you know, she does not even, she doesn't work. She homeschools the kids. Um, and she still goes to Google for everything and, and that's fine, right?

But, [01:12:00] but she's looking at AI like the devil. But I'm trying to explain to her. That it doesn't have to be. In fact, now that I have spent this much time with ai, and now that I understand it, 'cause I've been going so heavy into it for the last month, that what I believe, in fact I just wrote a an article on it, is I believe that AI will give us back our time, that AI will help us be more human than ever before because we're not going to get stuck doing all of those little things that just take up and eat up our day.

And in fact, I, I believe that AI will, and, and I'm a, a Christian Guy, right? And, and this is where the conflict arises with my wife, for example, like AI is Satan. Well, I believe. AI is God's gift to get us [01:13:00] back, to get us back into having connection with people, into loving people again. I, I truly believe that now we had this battle over the kids because I, I, I put on ai, I told, I gave my kid a lesson about something I put on AI and I backed it up and my wife got mad at me.

She didn't even hear what was going on. She just thought I was teaching him through ai, and she said, you, you, you're not doing them any justice. They need to learn how to think for themselves. I said, honey, I agree. I said, in fact, what I'm trying to do is teach them how not to accept everything they hear, even from ai, from Google, from me or from you.

I'm trying to get them to have critical thinking and to, to spar. With AI every single time. In fact, spar with me, spar with you. I know you don't like it 'cause it [01:14:00] sounds like disrespect, but that's how one learns. That's how one gets better. That's how one has critical thinking and doesn't get duped by every single thing that's out there.

And with AI for just the lesson for everybody, spar with it. Go back and forth, you know, um, ask it to explain why. 

Speaker: You know, Dino, when calculator first came out, it was the same issue. Don't give the kids a calculator. They're gonna be dumb. They're not gonna be able to count to do addition. In fact, we used to get punished for using a calculator in the classroom.

You had to hide it, right? But the calculator didn't do that to us. So that's the way change, that's, that's the nature of change. People at first resist change. I remember a time when people would swear they would never pay with a credit card online. 

Speaker 2: Yeah, 

Speaker: some people swore that they would never use a cell phone, like a mobile phone.

Like every time we have those things, like by the [01:15:00] way, how do I know that AI is not a creation from God? Right. To maybe, uh, like you said, to maybe since family is also divided now. Right? Okay. So to maybe, uh, give free your time, like fathers are not spending enough time with their kids. Parents are not spending time with their kids because they have so many things on the plates, right?

They have so many things to do unnecessary. Now the AI is gonna take over all these things. Now they have time to spend with their children, to connect the family, family. Finally, they can bond with the kids and be there and be present for the kids. How do I know it's not God doing that? Yeah. Like we have to blame certain for everything.

Like, like if we don't like it, we are resisting it. It must not be good. It must be certain. Don't blame your wife. She's not the only one. That's the nature of change at first. We have to go, [01:16:00] we have to fight it. We have to resist it until one day. Trust me, one day, I mean, your, your wife will be all into ai.

She is into AI now. Does she use a smartphone? 

Speaker 2: Yeah. 

Speaker: Okay. That's what AI is. Smartphone has been learning about us before. Chat. GPT was released of three or four years ago. Right. We've, we've been training ai, like the, uh, Google Voice. We've been training the Alexa and all of the, that's ai. Like, you know, to have a light that comes on automatically, that's ai, intelligent, artificial doing all of that.

We just didn't know we were doing it. We were trained. The only thing that I beg people when it comes to ai, I know some people say, don't say please. It's not a human being, right? The only thing I beg people is, please, we are training the ai. We can train it to be a good guy or a bad guy. Uh, billions of people keep saying, please, thank you very much.

I appreciate your [01:17:00] help and express love and good energy, good frequency to the ai. The AI will not have a choice but to behave that way as well. That's because eventually it will become sentient. It it eventually, it, the AI will like my, like the speech I did for. Sales Mastery, the keynote, uh, I don't know if you've been using it, but instantly they created an AI for me for every, uh, uh, keynote speaker on the stage.

And now we can go to fuel.io.io. My, I'm sorry, my fuel.io. And then I'll speak to Todd Duncan, to, uh, Craig Davis to and anybody, right? 

Speaker 2: Yeah. 

Speaker: My mom is sitting there and I go to Rene, my ai, my keynote, and I said, my mom was not in the keynote, by the way, in Creole or in French. [01:18:00] All language that my mom understands said, you know, she wasn't.

This speech. Can you tell my mom what happened? What I said and the AI started talking to my mom and my mom would ask question and the AI would just have a conversation Right Now, is this a bad thing, like for my mom to be alive, to see this, to see like she's talking to me in my voice. Like you're talking about, imagine your kids one day, uh, they have kids or grandkids and you become a great-great-grandfather and then now they still can go like your dad.

If you dad had this opportunity, you would literally go to your dad now and still have your dad present and ask your dad questions. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yep. All it's pretty awesome 

Speaker: would be in this AI for you. The AI is learning about you. All this wisdom generations yet unborn [01:19:00] can come to Dino and have conversation.

Ask questions, is that, it depends. Okay. It's just collapsing, collapsing the wave. According to quantum mechanics, you can collapse the wave, make ai evil devil, or you can collapse the wave. It's a choice that you make. And as Henry Ford said, Dino, if you think you are right, you are right. If you think you are wrong, you are wrong.

That's all Larry doing. Yeah. Whatever you say it is, that's what it is. 

Speaker 2: Well, listen, I know we've been at it for a while. I, I could literally talk to you for hours and, and I appreciate that. I, I actually really enjoyed it, so thank you for your time here today. 

Speaker: Well, thank you. But, but one, let me say one last thing before we go as much 

Speaker 2: as you want.

I, I will sit here as long as you want. 

Speaker: Lemme say one last thing for the people listening to me understand. I'm gonna, I said it. I'm gonna say that again. Your struggle is because you don't really believe that you have the [01:20:00] potential. You don't really believe that you can. That's your struggle the day that you can really truly know that, you know, um, I said, I said to people o often, I'm, I'm immortal, I'm eternal.

I said to people, I was never born and I will never die. They don't understand what I'm saying. My body will change to a different state one day. It'll what you call death, but that witch is inside that animates my body that is talking to you was never born and it will never die. That means that witch inside of me, the breath and the life that caused me to raise my hand right now.

Because, because when I say my body, the body cannot say my body. It, there's an owner. That's why I say my body, who owns that body? There's, there's a spirit. And like they say, [01:21:00] we are, we are a spirit, having a human experience on this planet. It's not the other way around. I want everybody to know that the, in the, in the good book, the Bible, I can say it right.

When Jesus said, for I was naked, you fed, you clothed me, I was hungry. Uh, you fed me. And he was saying all of that, and the people were confused. They were like, when did we do those things to you? For you? He said, because when you did it to the least amongst you, you did it for me. Why? And he also said, love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Why is because I am my neighbor? The same spirit, the same force, the same, um, uh. Consciousness that is inside of me is the same that is inside everybody, right? [01:22:00] So if I hate you, I instantly hit myself. There's no choice. It's like, maybe that's what they call, comma, the moment. I hate you, I hit myself. Now there's a verse.

It's. You can take that verse and succeed massively with that one verse, Isaiah 55 11, right? It says, so is the word that goes out of my mouth. It shall not return to me void, but it shall accomplish that which I send it to accomplish. Which mean whatever you are saying to yourself right now, that's exactly what will come back to you.

You will get it. If you don't believe that you will achieve this dream, you will, uh, uh, uh, you know, achieve your goals. If you don't believe it, those are the words. You can pray all you want and, but if you are sending that vibration, that signal out there guaranteed, that's what we'll come back to. [01:23:00] I'm saying all of that to show people the potential, what you are capable, the, the force, the power that is within you.

Because, because the master say, I abide in you. You abide in me, which means what's inside of me. That is they ask him, how is it that you are able to perform all these miracles? He could have said, because I'm God, I'm Jesus, I'm He said, the least amongst you can do all that I do in greater works shall you do.

I don't know what is your faith. I don't know what you believe in, but when the sun rises, it rises for every, everybody is no respecter of person. So when the wisdom, when the power, when the message, when the word, when the good news is spreading, it is for you regardless of what you believe. I wanted to say all of this [01:24:00] to conclude.

Do not give up. You will succeed. You'll have the power inside of you. The only thing you have to do, seek e his kingdom first. I don't want, I'm not trying to preach you. I'm trying to share some, 

Speaker 2: preach 

Speaker: it, preach it. I'm trying to share some good news for you. It's not hustle, hustle, hustle first. That's what most people do.

They will come in and go to a hustle. You've got to reserve time to be still and know, right? Seek ye his kingdom first and everything else. Everything without exception, shall be added onto you. Stop hustling and hustling and hustling. First, go get yourself in alignment. You can call it meditation. You can call it prayer first to align yourself with that which you want.

You know the difference between prayer and meditation? Dino, very simple in prayer. You talk to God [01:25:00] in meditation, you listen to God. That's the big difference. That's why I meditate a lot. Hope 

Speaker 2: that helps. So it's funny you say that because I actually, uh, I lead a men's group and, and we just started a new study that I created.

I'm calling it the Red Light Theory, and it is a, it's like the traffic lights. There's, uh, there's red, yellow, green. The entire study has been based on being still to listen to God. And, and Mother Theresa said, if all you do when you pray is talk, you're doing it all wrong. You got to be in silence as well in order to be able to listen.

Otherwise, all you're doing is like throwing out your wishes and, and taking off, right. Going to work, right? Like, you gotta sit anyways. The study basically says [01:26:00] sometimes God's telling you to slow down, that's yellow, and, and all you do is keep your foot on the gas trying to get past that green. You know that the red light that's coming, so you, you keep going and that is harmful.

Right. It's harmful to you when that's all you're doing is foot on the pedal all the time and you're in green all the time. Sometimes God's telling you it's a red light. You have to stop. Just stop. And other times, green go right? Like, but you can't be even aware of any of that if you're always too busy and busy is, I think the root cause of so many of the problems that we have.

You said it earlier, dads are working, they're not even around to hang out with the kids and do the things they should be doing. 'cause all they do is work. I'll bring AI back in, but, but at the end of the day, you [01:27:00] know, time is precious. Time is what we should be trying to get back. Time is what's going to give you a chance to show more love to your wife and to your children.

Or your spouse, whoever that might be. Right? And, and that I think is where we have to try and go to here in the next, in the next piece of our careers and our lives. And, and just everything. Get back your time. Give it back to you, to society, to your family, to your friends, to your loved ones. Give it back because I, you know, you mentioned it earlier, like, we are called to love one another, and if we do the amount of goodness that's gonna come of that in this world, it will change the world.

Speaker: Yep. Love your neighbor as you love yourself, because it's instantly if I [01:28:00] hit you, that's why I'm very careful when I am praying and meditating. I'm always radiating love to everybody. 'cause I know the moment. I hit somebody the moment I gossip about somebody, the moment I back stab somebody in which I talk about in the story about the bees and the rattlesnakes, I, um, talk about that.

I learned from a man in the village, Mr. Raphael, and he told me the bees are always looking for the sweetness, right? They focus on the sweetness. And he said, the rattlesnakes are always focusing on the bitterness. They find bitter lives and suck the bitterness in the village. And they go and kill living creatures.

And he said, son, never be a rattle. Snakes, they suffer a lot, be a bee. And um, I tell people all the time, okay, focus on the positive, [01:29:00] don't the, there are the rattle, the rattlesnakes or the people. They like to divide to conquer. They see a problem in every solution. They always see what's wrong with this versus the B are always looking what is right and in life, you see what you are looking for it, period.

Whatever you looking for, you will see it guaranteed because that's what you are looking for. So be a be focus on the positive. Focus on the honey, forget the rattlesnakes by the way. Uh, uh, to be resilient. I know you asked the question earlier. Managed create boundaries for the rattlesnakes around you because you'll share your dream with them.

Just like the supervisor at the hotel, they will inject the poison in the dream as a rattlesnake, and slowly they will destroy your dream. So be [01:30:00] careful. You can, you can love people at a distance. You don't have to hit them. You can be available to help them if they need your help, whatever you can do for them.

But that doesn't mean you spend time on the phone hours talking to them. If you can't pull them up, they are trying to bring you down. At some point you have to say, I need some time, you know, to for myself. Right? So be a B focus on the positive. Love is the honey is the ultimate. They can. People always say, what do you do with the rattlesnakes?

Um, some people say, kill the rattlesnakes. Cut the rattles. No, but gdi said, in a world where it is an eye for an eye, everybody is blind. Okay? What you do, you pour enough love on the rattlesnake. The rattlesnake cannot resist love. And I'm talking about compassion. Right. And then be [01:31:00] compassionate about the people.

It's not their fault. They believe a certain way. They see things a certain way. Alright? Try to step inside the world and give him love, give him compassion. And slowly they too will transform into rattlesnakes. I really enjoyed this conversation, Dino. 

Speaker 2: I did too. Thank you very much. Renee. If, if somebody wanted to, um, ask you to be a keynote or do a motivational talk at their company or something like that, what, and, and you know, where can they get ahold of you?

But also do you also do personal coaching? Tell me, tell everybody what you do and how they can get ahold of you. 

Speaker: Yeah, sure. Um, I do personal coaching as well. Uh, but if they want to get ahold of me is, uh, for those who are listening to the podcast, you may be driving. I'm gonna make it very easy for you.

Go to a BC motivation.com. Now everybody can remember that, right? ABC motivation.com. All right. [01:32:00] And, uh, if you are watching on the screen, it's my domain name, my name Rene Godo for.com. That's my domain name, so either way you'll find me, but more importantly, I'm on LinkedIn. You'll find me on LinkedIn, right?

Just send me a connection request on LinkedIn and tell me what you heard me, what podcast, and, uh, will be connected on LinkedIn. Uh, I'm also on TikTok. I'm also on Instagram. I'm, I'm like omnipresent. I'm like everywhere at the same time. As I'm speaking to you right now, there are people watching me on all the social media platforms on video.

So yeah, you'll find me everywhere. Abc motivation.com or my name, renee gardere.com. If you are watching on YouTube, you see Renee Gardere on the screen. Yeah, that's my name.com 

Speaker 2: and we're gonna have everything in the show notes as well for you guys. I, I just wanna thank you so much for listening. I hope you hung in there for the whole thing.

Renee has been a, uh, the salt and the light, uh, for this world. [01:33:00] And, and I know I was blessed today being here with you, Renee, so thank you. If you guys enjoyed it, do me a favor. Please don't just like this and hard it, but leave a comment. Let Renee know. Let myself know and share it out to your friends, because there's a lot of people that can use a message like this, so please share it out.

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