
Property Management Frame Breakers
The Property Management Frame Breakers podcast is about showcasing the innovators who are reshaping property management. It profiles leaders who have "broken the frame" by rethinking traditional practices and excelling with bold, unconventional strategies.
Episodes
54 episodes
Ep 53 | PM Just Got Called Into A National Mission. You In?
Last week, the U.S. launched its “Winning the AI Race” initiative—a full-scale, national AI moonshot aimed at restoring national strength through AI-first manufacturing. But what if this isn’t just a tech race? What if it’s a mirror for the fut...
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Episode 53
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19:34

Ep 52 | This Asset Manager Is Saving 10+ Hours a Week Using AI w/ Jonathan Buckelew
What happens when an asset manager, overwhelmed by AI hype, stops spectating and starts building?On this episode of the Property Management Frame Breakers Podcast, host Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Jonathan Buckelew, VP of Asset Manage...
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Episode 52
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50:02

Ep 51 | Leadership Through Times of Disruption
Times will get weird during the transition into the AI-first economy, and it’s going to involve tough decisions and tougher conversations.Which begs the question-Is it possible to lead through transition, let people go, and still ...
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Episode 51
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Ep 50 | He Bought A PMC, Doubled It, Sold To Poplar, & Built Tech For Them- Lesson's From Michael Lee's Epic Rise
What happens when a burned-out Groupon product leader buys a dusty 300-door portfolio, doubles it to 600, then helps Poplar Homes rocket from 2,000 to 15,000 doors with technology?In this Property Management Frame Breakers episode, tech...
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Episode 50
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52:20

Ep 49 | You Don’t Need Another Maintenance Coordinator (You Need a Mini-Me AI)
“If it’s not done like I do it, it will not work.”Sound familiar? That’s not just a control issue. That’s a systems gap and burnout waiting to happen.In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, host Pablo Gonzalez unpacks...
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Episode 49
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14:16

Ep 48 | What PMs Really Want from AI: Relief, Trust, and Visibility w/ Nurith Berstein
In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Nurith Berstein sits down with Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist of Vendoroo, to unpack the truth behind AI’s role in property management: AI is here to replace burnout, not your team.
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Episode 48
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51:37

Ep 47 | Why AI for PM Feels So... Meh
If you’ve ever clicked “Assistant” and ended up back in a form… this episode is for you.In this episode, Pablo Gonzalez breaks down why most “AI-powered” tools still make you do the work. He explains why so many AI tools feel off when i...
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Episode 47
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14:34

Ep 46 | AI Features vs. AI-First: Kyle Erb on Choosing the Advantage That Actually Scales
As Director of Systems for one of the largest property management franchises in the country, Kyle Erb has seen it all—flashy demos, AI “add-ons,” and platforms that promise scale but deliver noise.In this episode, Kyle shares the moment...
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Episode 46
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53:49

Ep 45 | We've Seen This Before- How The Automation Era Felt Like This AI Era (And What Was Different)
What does a 1978 supermarket chain have to do with scaling your property management business in 2025?Everything.In this mini episode, Pablo Gonzalez shares the untold story of how his father used automation, leverage, and centra...
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Episode 45
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Ep 44 | Turning The PM Skillset Into A Fund Building Machine w/ Nicholas Cook
What happens when a seasoned property manager decides the best way to serve clients (and his team) is to become an investor?In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist of Vendoroo, sits down w...
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Episode 44
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28:48

Ep 43 | AI Is Finally Changing What PMs Can Promise
Tell your owners they’ve got 5-star service, 24/7—customized to their schedule and needs.Not as a pitch, but as reality.In this mini episode, Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist at Vendoroo, unpacks how AI is finally bridging the gap b...
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Episode 43
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15:06

Ep 42 | From Automation to Personalization — David Normand on AI, Outcome Ownership, and the Future of PM
Most property managers are chasing automation—faster responses, cleaner dashboards, more hands off.But what if that’s the wrong finish line?In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Vendoroo’s David Normand flips the sc...
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Episode 42
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Ep 41 | 4 Frame Breaking Property Management Leaders
In this bold, eye-opening mini-episode, Pablo Gonzalez takes you inside the minds of today’s most forward thinking property management leaders — the property management voices who aren’t waiting for change, but actively shaping it.From ...
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Episode 41
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19:46

Ep 40 | Irrelevance (Not AI) is the Real Threat to Property Managers w/ Jo-Anne Oliveri
What happens when a property manager turns tragedy into purpose and a book into a movement?In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez sits down with PM coach and author Jo-Anne Oliveri to explore how the futur...
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Episode 40
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28:31

Ep 39 | More Doors ≠ More Money. THIS Does.
Every door you manage takes time, energy, and risk. But what if the real wealth isn’t in managing more doors, it’s in owning more of them?In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez unpacks a seismic question f...
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Episode 39
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13:49

Ep 38 | The "Lunch-First" Door Growth Flywheel w/ Ed Kirch
What if your daily lunch routine is the secret key to unlock company growth?In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist of Vendoroo, sits down with Ed Kirch —a property manager who turned 300 ...
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Episode 38
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45:45

Ep 37 | Agentic AI vs Generative - The Difference Everyone’s Talking About (But No One’s Explaining)
Everyone’s asking if AI will take your job. But it's time to start asking if you’re ready to hire it.In this solo deep dive, Vendoroo’s Chief Evangelist, Pablo Gonzalez, makes the most important distinction in today’s AI conversation: t...
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Episode 37
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21:02

Ep 36 | Collapsing Time To Scale A Property Management Company w/ Sylvie McCraken
Think you're too new to scale? Think again. In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist of Vendoroo, sits down with Sylvie McCraken to unpack what it really takes to build a modern proper...
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Episode 36
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1:08:00

Ep 35 | Randall Henderson’s Radical Reframe of What Property Managers Deserve
You’ve heard vendors pitch tech before—feature flexes, roadmap bravado, one-size-fits-all stacks.But Randall Henderson isn’t here to play that game.As COO of Rentvine, he’s pushing a philosophy most platforms are too afraid to e...
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Episode 35
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15:39

Ep 34 | Owning Rentals- How To Get There & How It Makes You A Better Property Manager w/ Tracy Streich
Owning rentals is both, low hanging fruit for property managers, and the best way to build wealth. So why don't more property managers do it??In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist ...
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Episode 34
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1:00:42

Ep 33 | Getting To Zero Owner Churn w/ Robert Dell'Osso
What if you could achieve zero churn?In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist of Vendoroo, sits down with Robert Dell’Osso, President of MasterKey Property Management, to talk about how his...
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Episode 33
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54:34

Ep 32 | An AI Agent Crashes The Podcast! (My Mindblowing Conversation With An AI Maintenance Receptionist)
What started as a fake maintenance call turned into a real glimpse at the future of property management.In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, host Pablo Gonzalez dials up “Lisa”—Vendoroo’s AI receptionist—and what unfol...
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Episode 32
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12:50

Ep 31 | Leaked AI Memos Just Said What No One Has Been Saying (Aloud)
Three internal AI memos leaked from Shopify, Duolingo, and Fiverr—and they weren’t written for headlines. They were written as wake-up calls to their own teams. The message?AI isn’t coming. It’s already deciding who survives.In ...
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Episode 31
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35:22

Ep 30 | The Non-Obvious Leadership Gap In Property Management w/ Michael Fisher
Ready or not, AI is about to expose the leadership gap hiding in plain sight.In this no-BS episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Michael Fisher pulls no punches: AI isn’t just here to automate tasks — it’s here to separate true...
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Episode 30
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30:11

Ep 29 | How We Got That Room at NARPM Broker/Owner (Behind the Scenes)
Join host Pablo Gonzalez on the Property Management Frame Breakers podcast as he unveils the backstory and strategic approach that led to a remarkable achievement at the NARPM Broker/Owner event. Discover how strategic community bui...
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Episode 29
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