beyond networking: how to build real, reciprocal relationships with Baily Hancock

in this episode of all our parts, i’m joined by baily hancock — host of seeking the overlap and a self-proclaimed connection strategist — to unpack what it really means to build community that holds you.

we dive into:

🤝 baily’s shift from solo achiever to community curator

💬 how to create relationships rooted in mutual support, not just convenience

💔 navigating grief, parenting struggles, and curveballs while staying connected

✨ why authenticity > optics when it comes to meaningful bonds

📍 practical ways to find your people (even when life feels shaky)

this episode is a reminder that we don’t heal alone, and connection — the real, deep kind — is both a strategy and a lifeline.

🎧 tune in if you’re craving more than surface-level networking and ready to build the kind of community that actually sees you.

connect with baily:

🌐 Website

🎙️ Podcast

📲 Instagram

💼 LinkedIn

Transcript

 Hello everybody. Welcome back to All Our Parts. I am so excited for my guest today. She is a friend. She is the host of Seeking the Overlap. Bailey, thank you so much for joining me today.  

The pleasure is all mine. I'm so excited for this conversation. I know we've been trying to get here for a while and life has been lifing.

So life has been lifing and then going through like the ebbs and flows of everything. But nonetheless, it's so good to be able to just reconnect with you because like you said, our last like conversation was this summer, which is it's.  So wild to think about where we are right now and to think about like how quickly time has passed and how Energetically things just feel so different right now  

Yeah understatement of the decade this summer feels like 10 years ago in a lot of respects and also five minutes ago and so much has changed inner and outer and like Uh, all around, uh, so much has changed in all of my parts, I feel like since the summertime.

So yeah, we've been on kind of a roller coaster and like totally different rides, but everybody's on their own version. And we're kind of all like, can we get off yet? I would love a snack and to stop going upside down. Thank you. I 

was like, what can I just be even keel for a little bit? Yeah. Yeah. But to start, just tell us about, I mean, you are the Connection Queen, you are all about bridging the, like, the dynamics of relationships, finding the overlap in relationships, and within this very specific political climate, this is where you have Drawn the line.

So tell us, like, what do you do? Why, why has community building been so valuable for you?  

So I'm calling myself a connection strategist and professional friend maker. But mostly what I do is I teach people how to build better, more reciprocal relationships so they can stop grinding in isolation and start achieving their goals together without burnout or bitterness and all the negativity that can come when we think we have to do everything.

Alone in our life. So regardless of what your goal is, I try and teach people how to find the right human beings to bring into their world, how to deepen connection with those people, and then how to collaborate with them to succeed together at the end of the day, because that's, what's always worked for me.

Anytime I've been after a particular goal or just in a season of life where I'm trying to achieve something. I have always depended upon the people in my life to help me get there sooner and with more joy along the way. However, I inside am the kind of person that has always been a solo. Person like a solo achiever, you know, I could make a group project into a one woman show very quickly.

I don't have a lot of trust that people are not going to let me down. That goes back to my childhood, of course. And so there's just a lot of like knowing and doing gaps with me between realizing and knowing and teaching people how to leverage the three C's community connection and collaboration to achieve their goals.

And yet I have. Often done the opposite for many, many reasons. So yeah, community is deeply important. And I know that because I've experienced it my entire life. Um, and it's easier said than done a lot of the time.  

Especially when  all of us feel like we're putting on our own oxygen mask at times.  What does it look like to still be in, like, what does it mean to still be community oriented in a time that, like, feels individually heavy for so many people? 

For me, the way that it's looked in the last few months, which has included the election going differently than I hoped and thought it would, um, fires in LA, my dad passing, and just parenthood feeling like I'm playing on a hard mode lately, I have one diagnosed neurodiverse kid, one undiagnosed neurodiverse kid, I got a neurodiverse diagnosis a couple months ago in the middle of all of those other things.

And. Everything just has felt really hard, just really hard and intense and all at once, right? It feels like everything, everywhere, all at once, but feelings.  And so the way that I have tried to continue to allow community to play an important role in my life is by being held by others, being supported. By others welcoming that, and it's not comfortable for me.

I always say like of community connection and collaboration, most people are excellent at one mediocre at one and terrible at one. And, you know, in such an ironic twist of fate, like I had a collaboration consulting business for five years, but collaboration is my weakest. Of those three, I can teach people how to collaborate all day.

I can advocate for you as a collaborator, but when it comes to finding people to allow into my life to support me, similar to the group project, I just have a really hard time, but I think when things get exceptionally hard, it can often wear you down so much that you're just like, okay, fine. Bring me soup.

If that's what you want to do, I will welcome the love. Send, you know, send me a text in the middle of the day, asking how I'm doing, even if I don't respond, like I'm going to receive that and give it a heart emoji or whatever I have the capacity for. So I think in these sort of moments where you do feel like you're in hibernation mode or isolation mode, and you're just trying to make it through another day, the best thing you can do for yourself is sort of.

You know, turn on your light of your lighthouse to be like, guys, I am in here, even if I don't answer the door, like, please still come knocking and, you know, show up for me. I can use a little love and support right now. And so it's been, it's been a good practice for sure. Cause um, I think most of the time, so many of us are really good at being the strong one and the strong friend and not needing anybody.

We're here for other people, but not, we don't let them be here for us. And it's in those moments of exhaustion when you just can't help, but say, okay, whatever that you can welcome in that love and support and actually receive from the people that you have these reciprocal relationships with.  

But, and it's like almost this idea that we've got a, especially strong, very independent, hyper independent people who can, who have no issue picking up other people who have no issue showing up for other people. 

It's like, we wait until we are bogged by life to say, I surrender. Do you want to love me? You get to love me. If you want to show up for me, you get to show up for me. But  what is that? And I, I mean, I see it in my own life as well. Like I, I literally wait until the last minute when I am like crawling, where I'm like, you know what?

I should probably tell people they haven't heard from me because I'm not doing well. Not because I'm busy, not because like work's hectic. Like, sure. That gets to be true too. And I am mentally, like, not doing well.  

But we, 

like, wait until, like, we don't wait for the early, like, warning signs that say, like, hey, Riley, you're people.

We wait till we're, like,  stretched out on the couch, binging the same show for the 10th time. And we're like, oh, actually, I should 

probably reach out to somebody. Yeah, but it takes effort. And in those moments, you don't have that, right? And  again, it's like knowing and doing duh, of course, in your time of need, that is the time to tell people how they can support you.

And in reality, in your time of need, you are often just trying to make it to the next hour. You're not like, okay, who can I text and how can I help them help me? That kind of stuff is really reserved for when you have a full tank of gas and I keep telling friends, like when they ask how I'm doing, I'm like, I just feel like an old iPhone that can't hold a charge.

Like I can't even get charged past like 30 percent before I start draining the battery again. And so my closer friends have really stepped up for me and like. They're just sort of telling me what's happening. They're like, a friend of mine is like, I booked us a day pass at this spa. Um, you know, I, she asked me for dates that I was free.

I gave her dates and she's like, okay, I booked us a time. I'm going to pick you up at this time. We're going to go. Uh, I got it. And we're going to come back that night. You'll be back in time for bedtime with your kids. Like it was not a, do you want to do this? Cause I probably would have been like, I can't do that right now.

Like that feels too luxurious or indulgent or whatever, but like I needed that so badly and she just offered that and just made it a, I could only say yes.  Which is kind of what you have to do in those circumstances. But again, that depends upon your people also having a full enough tank on their end to be able to offer that and see you, right.

I leave a little breadcrumbs for people. And I think my closer friends know where to look for those. Now, my husband definitely knows where to look, uh, because I'm fully unmasked and unavailable in my home with him. So he knows sooner than everybody else, but like I post. I post a lot to social media. I share what I'm thinking.

My  reposts are very indicative of my headspace at the time. Right? So it's like, Oh, she just posted five, like kind of iffy posts in a row, like really down, she might be needing a little conversation. So I sort of, that's like me shining that light in my own lighthouse being like SOS. But like, no problem.

If you're too busy to pick up on this. Right. So it's giving people an opportunity who know me and who have their eye on me to come in and support without me overtly having to ask for it, which feels better to me. It puts it on them. Um, and for people that aren't in that headspace, they're not even going to notice.

They're just going to keep scrawling. So, yeah.  

Yeah, it's,  I think there's also a intentionality  is the word that comes to mind when you just spoke because. Like you said, if people aren't looking, they're not going to  see it. But the people who are like looking for you, looking for us, who are like paying attention and who want to be like tuned in,  I think that's also,  I think.

We are, I, my original pitch to you was talking about how we are in probably like what feels like the loneliest time for so many people feeling so disconnected and part of that,  I feel like from my, like from a therapist standpoint is like,  We are, we are, we have all of these connections and people to go to and all of these coffee dates and networking events, but we are lacking a lot of depth in our relationships.

Correct.  Uh huh. Yes. That is a huge issue right now. By now, probably everybody's heard we're in a loneliness epidemic, not just in the US, but in multiple major countries. And it's despite the fact that we are seemingly more connected than ever, but it's digitally connected. And we all know that there's a massive difference between in person connection and digital.

And then even within the digital space. You know, the comment section anywhere is not going to mean where you're finding connection with people. However, on threads, I have found deep connection with strangers, right? You and I originally, I think I connected on threads and I've had many people that I've like actually become friends with through these genuine.

Responses to posts or even seeing each other's responses in a post that you both commented on. So digital connection is absolutely possible. Um, but it does depend upon the location and the intentionality and the subject matter. And of course, all of those things, but Yeah. Connection right now, I think is the number one lack of connection is the number one reason we are in the state that we're in, right?

We're disconnected from ourselves. We're disconnected from the earth. We're disconnected from our neighbors. We're disconnected from even like our enemies, right? Or seeming enemies, people that, that believe differently than us. Like we are so hyper, like siloed. In a way, a lot of because of the internet and, and the ability to like really curate and  have your algorithm demand, you know, that you watch and read and are exposed to certain things, but it is possible to go around that it just, again, it takes energy and it takes effort.

It's the most worthwhile effort of anything you'll ever do, but it is, it seems so simple. To me, right from a macro perspective, it's like, well, duh, if we could connect with one another, which you first must connect with yourself, which is what you and I talked about on my podcast, which was a huge wake up call for me, by the way, like I always knew that I'm a great connector.

I can connect people to each other. I can connect with other people, but I was for a long time missing that self connection and just had no idea. And once I realized that it was escaping hole, I couldn't not see anymore. And it's like, It has shifted my perspective on everything. Cause it's like, why don't people that, you know, seemingly have a lot in common, like why aren't they having deeper connections and what's the, what's the missing piece here.

And I think it is that interconnection piece that's often missing. And I think that has to happen before you can really deeply connect with somebody else. Cause  if you don't know who you are and what you like and what your goals are and your values and your interests, then. How are you going to share what's in your overlap with somebody, right? 

When I first started becoming a therapist and going through like the internship process, I would always say to a lot of my friends who were just starting, I would say  one thing I have learned about client work is I can only meet them as deep or as far as I have met myself.  When they were showing up in their grief, in their pain, If I wasn't addressing my grief and my pain, then I could not really sit with them in that space.

As I've become more connected and aware of  myself, I'm also able to meet my relationships from a more genuine, authentic place, because I'm meeting myself there. I think where a lot of people get scared is that  they realize everyone then doesn't fit in the bubble.  Yeah, it's like then we've got to be re kind of like selective because we are meeting ourselves in this authentic place.

And so to to approach relationships are like even collaboration sometimes from a A superficial place  feels exhausting. 

Yeah. It feels worse than not doing it at all. And it's a hard pill to swallow. And it's, that is exactly what's happened with me is after sort of realizing, okay, I am a bit disconnected from the me of right now, right?

Like I know old me. Cause I did that self connection forever ago, but most of the time people forget to keep that relationship current. And. I get there through writing and through like verbal journaling, which I go on like self talk walks and just have a conversation with me and that helps me get into like, what am I actually feeling and thinking?

And once I started doing that, I just realized there were a lot of people that had, you know, VIP access. That weren't even necessarily needing to be at the venue, you know, and that, that shifts the way you make new friends, it shifts how you show up for your current friends, the kind of support you expect from the people in your life, like losing a parent and going through really hard things between, you know, the fires went on for three weeks and the day they went out is the day he died.

So then it was like, okay, let's pass that baton one from one grief to the next. And. You know, I wish it weren't the case, but I have a little mental tally in the back of my mind of the people that have yet to reach out about either of those things, because to me, it's like, well, if you're not reaching out when things are very obviously hard, like it's not ambiguous.

Those two things alone are really hard. Um, and they're on top of the stuff that's affecting a lot of us. And so to me, it's like, okay, well. You definitely know about it. And if you haven't reached out, then I don't think you're actually a friend. Because what is a friend then to you? Is it just for good times?

Because I've got friends that do both. And to me, that's like what you want is a friend that's there for all of the times. And I don't know, maybe that's a little bit Pollyanna of me to think that that is what I could expect from people, but I've seen it. So I know that it's possible. And to me, I would rather have a handful of those people than a whole smattering of people that only fall into one of those categories.

And so, you know, during this time of this, like particularly challenging time in my life, where it also, uh, was preceded by. Me starting to realize like, Oh, I've been actually performing for a lot of my relationships. I've been asking hard without realizing I was masking. And now that I'm taking off those masks, there are people that whether they realize it or not, or just not as here for that version of me.

And I'm not as here, uh, for giving them that version of me. Cause I don't feel safe to do that. And if that is true, then again, it's like. Oh, well then maybe we're actually not friends or we're no longer friends. And it sucks. Even if it's a good thing, even if it makes room for more aligned people to come in, um, which they are also, even during this time, it's like, it's still a death of sort, right?

It's an ending and we're not prepared for friendship endings the way that we are for romantic endings. It's really unfair. 

Yeah. I mean, I think as a society, we, I think we are just now giving space for platonic endings to, to have like as much depth and,  uh, have carry as much weight.  in our lives as we place on, like, romantic relationships. Even, like, Valentine's Day being not only about romantic love, but also, like, our friends, and even the love that we have for ourselves.

Like, we're shifting the narrative of what is, like, deep, meaningful love, and we're allowing it to be from a more holistic approach. It  I just have so much swirling through my mind right now as you're talking because I'm also thinking about  how  I've seen just like through socials and reaching out to you like  and I've reached out and like there there have has been no Like expectation and so I can't like imagine  how heartbreaking  like equal parts like heartbreaking and like while navigating life life thing, but also like recognizing damn there are only like there are people out there who only want one version of me. 

Yeah. I mean, it sucks. And I also hold space for the truth of it, the many truths of it, which is,  you know, you don't know what's going on in other people's lives unless they tell you, right. Or unless word gets around. And  So I, I also hold the possibility that either they don't know what to say, which is usually the case.

Right. And I think anybody that's grieved anything, regardless of whether it's a person or a loss of any kind knows that anything is better than silence, any outreach. Even if it's, I have no idea what to say and I can't even imagine how you feel, but I am thinking about you.  That is amazing. And I will tell you, like, you know, I went to the internet and told the internet about my dad passing, like the day after it happened, because I deal with things and move through things better in the open.

Um, and other people's reactions to it kind of helped me navigate my way through in a lot of ways, but I did that, which meant I was going to get an onslaught of. Messages and texts and all of that, which is what I got. And so it was, you know, what's funny is it's almost like there's waves of this too, and you can tell the people that have been through it themselves because they check in 10 days later and they check in 21 days later and they check in long past, people have like moved on and sort of forgotten about it because when you grieve something or someone, you realize that it's.

Actually forever  turns out just a real bummer in some ways, but you just never know when it's going to show up. And so I have so deeply appreciated the friends that have been like, Hey B, just thinking about you, like no need to respond. Just keep you're on my mind. I hope today's a good day. And if it's not.

I'm here to talk. Um, and that has just been also a lesson in how I want to start showing up more for people in their hard times too, because it, to your point, you can only meet people as deep as you've met yourself. And that includes hard times. I think you can sympathize and empathize all day, but until you've been there yourself, you just don't really know.

And so, yeah, it's been a very illuminating time. And I will say like, I had a dream last night about a group of different friends who are all separate from each other who have not reached out and said anything to me since like maybe my birthday in September. And I had a conversation with him in my dream about how like disappointed I was that that was the case.

Um, I don't remember how it all resolved, but clearly it's on my subconscious as well. So. Yeah. It's just chalk it up to another like, Oh, okay. Good to know. Like friendships change. People don't always show up the way you hope they're going to. Um, sometimes random people show up that you don't expect the, the bizarre texts, not bizarre, the kind texts that I have gotten from people who I haven't thought about in like 15 years is wild.

Like more than five to where I'm like,  I would not have called this one, but I feel really wonderful about this. And it's now re sparked like some old conversations that I haven't had with people in a really long time. So it is a roll. It's a roller coaster on a roller coaster, right? It's like that messed up carnival ride that like spins as you're going on a track.

It's like layers, layers 

upon layers. Well, space.  Space always ends up being made in such  curious, like unexplainable ways. And then when that space is created, it allowing the journey to unfold is like where the like magic happens.  There's also this, like to the person who's like giving that is like,  I think sometimes we.

Expect a response when we, when we reach out, when we say, Hey, like, how can I support you? And then we don't like get the response. It's like, Oh no. Like, then I don't know what to say that I don't know what to do. Then it's kind of like a one sided thing and feeling like, I think sometimes I get into my head, like, I don't want to bother the person, 

right.

They're dealing with a lot. They don't want to hear from me. Or maybe you think it's going to be performative, right? Like, Oh, well, they just.  I don't know. It's so dumb how we get so deeply into our heads about the human connection. It's almost to me, the way that I think of it is like, what would I want?

And that's the only way I can go about things because otherwise we're just guessing and we're guessing anyway about what people are thinking and needing. So screw it, at least base it on some kind of reality, which is your own. So. Yeah, it is. And I think that's why like with text messages that I got, when I just haven't been in the headspace or had the energy to respond, I'm like heart hurting everything.

And like responding with some kind of an emoji or like, I'm telling them like this was received. Thank you. I don't have the capacity right now to get into the specifics. And like, you know, the question, how are you is just like, How does one answer that? I mean, I have 20 responses I could give at any given point in time and they're all true.

So yeah, it, it can feel really hard to, to support and be supported by your people during hard times, but  you got to get over the clumsiness and awkwardness of it, because that really is where true bonds are fortified are when it is. Less obvious, the correct response or the correct thing to say or do like,  I think the, the messy humanness of just showing up imperfectly and making your best guess.

I think that alone is worth the effort. And. You know what, it's on the flip side too. If it's not received in a way that you felt like, I don't know, and not that it should be about you when you're trying to support somebody, but if you're not feeling good about that interaction either, or that bigger relationship, then that's an opportunity for you to know as well that like, okay, maybe this isn't what I thought it was.

And again, that is part of life. It sucks, but it's part of life. And I think the more we can adapt to that being the case, the more we can appreciate and value our relationships. While they are in, in their best peak, right. Or in their best phase of life, knowing that we can't count on them to be there for absolutely forever.

Yeah,  what's one, what is one piece of advice you would give to  people who are trying to figure out how to build community in really uncertain times?  

I sort of use the, the idea around like finding people who share a common goal, interest or values to you. Um, There are so many organizations that exist in this world, online and off locally, globally, that it's really just a matter of picking one.

I'm a big fan of rather than starting from scratch, building a community of people, because when we talk about community, it can mean a lot of things. So when I say community, I mean your network, what people would traditionally consider your network. So all the people, you know, um, You know, I have these zones of connection, concentric circles that I operate from that really help people understand, you know, there's could be connections, casual connections.

You're my space, top eight, the friend zone, like there's all of these circles, right? Of course, everybody's at a different place with you in terms of your strength, the strength of your bond. Um, but when you're thinking about building community, so finding new humans to welcome into your life. I use the words curate community specifically because of the point you brought up a little bit ago around like being selective with who you welcome into your life, because not everybody is for you.

And you know what? One person that might be for you today might not be for you anymore in five years because we're all evolving all the time. Um, and. You know, if you can think of people as like meandering in and out of your life and through those zones of connection, which is how it works, then I think it's a lot easier to be less attached to any one particular individual.

When you look at it as this. Organism this living organism in and of itself, like your community is made up of a bunch of human beings that are moving and evolving and changing on their own too. So of course, it's going to be like this beehive of activity, right? Like it's not stagnant. So when I talk about curating your community, what I really mean is go to where your people are  and then find.

One to two to three, if you're lucky people in that particular community or group that you can then nurture through the zones of connection from could be connections to casual connections, to the friend zone, that's where most people are going to go from is possibility. Okay. We know each other, but we don't have each other's contact info.

We like recognize each other. Maybe we know each other's names down into the friend zone, which is somebody you would like invite to your birthday party or go out to coffee with. Right. So one of the easiest ways you can do this is pick a cause. Net, you know, using the moment we're in.  Culturally politically, there are many causes one can put their efforts behind a mini, just look in any direction and something's on fire that you can help it out or rebuild something better.

Right. And so if you find a cause that you're interested in guarantee you, there will be protests. There will be meetings. There will be ideation sessions. Maybe there's book clubs, whatever. There will probably also be a virtual community that you can join to keep the conversations going with those people.

You could think about like, what are your interests, right? Like, what is your life circumstance right now? I'm a parent of neurodiverse kids. So I'm actively seeking out communities where there are other parents of neurodiverse kids to just lean on each other and have camaraderie and commiseration and ideally support and ideas, but whatever it is.

Just look in any direction in your life, pick a thing that is interesting to you, go to a place where other people will also be interested in that thing. And then boom, you already have something right there in the overlap on the Venn diagram between you and the other person to start from, right? You've got a conversation starter and then you start to just sort of feel them out.

It's like, okay. Are we cool? Are we not cool? Like it's just like dating. It's the same as dating. Um, except you can date a ton of people all at once. And like every relationship you have benefits the other ones in a lot of ways. And so, yeah, just go to where your people are and just start small. Like don't overcommit.

I'm queen of overcommitting, absolutely queen of overcommitting, fighting off way more than I can chew. And so I will often join way too many communities and then show up in none of them.  Don't do like me do as I say, not as I do go pick one community, try it out for like a month, whether that's volunteering or it's an art class or it's a virtual writing group or whatever, like go show up regularly, give it a fair chance.

To like, you know, do something for you and for people to find you within that community and for you to find them. And then you start the process of the next C, which is connection. So you got to go to where your people are.  

For those who are just listening and not necessarily watching, I am leaning forward in my microphone because I just love listening to Bailey. 

Everything she says, it just like resonates and I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, and  like, I just feel like I always learned something when I'm listening to you. 

Oh, thank you. I feel very, I feel very like, I don't know, you have a presence about you too. That's just like, lay it on me.  You should be a therapist. 

Maybe I'll consider it. Have you thought about it?  

How can people find you? This was such an amazing conversation. Like, how can they find you if they are interested in learning?  

Go to overlapcollective. com.  That has all of my things. Um, in my haze of grief and stress and anxiety, I've been redoing my website.

I'm a queen, queen of productive procrastination as well, where I'm like, I don't need to do this, but it'll be good that I did. So go check it out. Tell me if you like it. Um, but yeah, overlap collective. com and then scroll all the way to the bottom and you'll see all my social handles. I mostly spend a lot of time on threads and LinkedIn and Instagram and.

Yeah, I have my podcast seeking the overlap, which comes out sporadically. Uh, but there are 10, I think 10 or 11 episodes available now. So yeah, Jasmine has been an incredible supporter and I'm so grateful for all the love you give me on the internet and all the sharing you do, and it just, it's wonderful. 

Of 

course. And my last question, I'm asking all of my guests this season, what is your commitment for 2025 to yourself? 

 Oh God,  I feel like she's so needy this year.  No, I think my commitment is to show up as authentically as I can, even when it's the last thing I want to do,  because.  What comes from authenticity, which to be honest with you, I didn't even know what the hell that word really meant until recently too.

Cause it's just such a buzzword and it's like, Oh, it's just telling the truth.  Okay. Interesting. Um, so showing up as authentically myself, whatever that looks like in the day too, which is like for a perfectionist, people pleaser, overachiever to not show up as the top version of me in any circumstance feels dangerous and chaotic and against everything in my body.

So that's how I know it's something I should probably do because it feels scary. Not, it doesn't feel like, uh, nerves. It like. It feels, it feels like a good intimidating, like something I want to not overcome because I don't know if you ever do, but focus on. And so being authentic, whatever the hell that means with strangers, with people that think they know me,  um, it is definitely easier to be authentic with strangers than it is with people you have relationships with.

I'm finding turns out because you kind of have to do some undoing of what they think they know, but it has been really fun and interesting to see. How my existing relationships receive that authenticity and or not. And with strangers, how much deeper a new relationship can go faster when you start from the truth versus the illusion. 

Yeah. 

I love it. Everything will be linked in the show notes. Bailey, thank you again so much for joining me today. 

Thank you for 

having 

me. 📍