The Visibility Standard

Taylor Swift is a Masterclass on Visibility:Storytelling as Your Most Valuable Asset

Jazzmyn Proctor Season 4 Episode 7

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Taylor Swift is more than a cultural icon—she is a marketing mastermind who has perfected the art of visibility, consistency, and building fierce audience loyalty.

If you’re an entrepreneur, creator, or visionary who is letting visibility fears hold your business back, this episode is your required reading. Host Jazzmyn breaks down the three non-negotiable principles in Taylor Swift's career that you can implement today to overcome the fear of being perceived and massively expand your reach.

This isn't just about pop culture; it's about bold, authentic, and strategic personal branding that converts.

In this episode, you will learn the secrets to:

  1. Building Relentless Anticipation: How Swift uses "Easter Eggs" and radical consistency to keep her audience engaged, and how to apply this to your own marketing without a massive team. (Hint: It’s your permission slip to be loud about your offers!)
  2. The Storytelling Advantage: Why your human, evolving story is your most valuable asset. We dissect how Swift uses her narrative—from the underdog to the villain arc—and challenge you to drop the shame and old stories that are boxing in your personal brand.
  3. Cultivating Unbreakable Trust: The foundation of her loyal fanbase lies in the narrative of resilience and authenticity. Learn how to connect with your audience so deeply that they become your 10-toes-down protectors, cheering for your every move.

Support the show

If this conversation sparked something for you and you’re ready for deeper support, I work with high-achieving women, creatives, and founders through individual therapy—supporting you in building a life and relationships that feel steady, connected, and aligned.
 And if you’re craving clarity around your brand, message, or how you’re showing up publicly, The Visibility Studio is my 90-minute marketing mentorship session designed to help you cut through the noise and build a strategy that actually feels like you.


 All the details are linked in the show notes at healingwithjazzmyn.com.

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Are you sitting with thousands of hours of B-roll content and telling yourself, I'll start posting tomorrow? Are you in your head worried about your friends and family thinking your cringe for choosing to be visible? Are you chasing trends instead of building influence? Welcome to the Visibility Standard, where the visionaries of today are changing the rules of their industries and letting their voice be heard. I'm your host, Jasmine, and we are setting the standard.app and use code JAS1MO for a one-month grace period. Taylor Swift's visibility playbook is one that all of us can learn from. And I'm gonna break down a few key points today. Hi, I'm Jasmine, host of the Visibility Standard, where I encourage healers to be seen and talk with entrepreneurs, founders, creatives who are shifting the narratives in their field, showing up and using their voice to build a larger, bolder business. Now, I never thought I would see the day where I would be discussing Taylor Swift simply because I'm like not a Swifty, like I listen to her music, but I'm more of like a Sabrina Carpenter girly, which if a lot of you know me, you know that. Tried and true. But I've gotta give credit where credit is due. Taylor Swift is a marketing mind. Her ability to remain credible is not just because of her fans. She has her marketing down to a T, and today we're gonna talk about three key aspects of that. Her ability to build anticipation, her storytelling, and her ability to build trust. So let's get into it. First, we're gonna discuss anticipation, and I think part of this is also her ability to remain consistent. If she's not on tour, she's releasing a music video. If she's not releasing a music video, she's dropping a song. If she's not dropping a song, she's building an album. If she's not building an album, she is somewhere public with her friends, out and about. She is literally always in front of us. That is how we should be when it comes to our marketing. Like, Homegirl is not ashamed about how often she drops an album, about how much she promotes an album. She will use every chance that she can get to be loud about her product. And oh my goodness, if we just had a fraction of that confidence, if we felt as strongly about our offers, if we were bold enough to be as repetitive, consistent, loud about our offers, what we are doing, who we are. I mean, the proof is in the pudding. Everyone is always waiting for the next Taylor Swift whatever, the next song, the next album, the next tour. Easter eggs is one that a lot of her fans are familiar with. It is when she drops little hints and tidbits and her titles and her music videos and the words that she says on her social media posts. Started Easter eggs during her first album in 2006, where she did her debut Taylor Swift album. It's 2025. That level of consistency, of commitment, of building out that brand for herself of the Easter eggs. I want to also preface that she has a very large team. And so she is able to constantly be out and about, to be in front, to be constantly dropping things because she has the team, the capacity, the resources to do that. Again, all I'm saying is, what if we took even a fraction of that energy, of that creativity, and said, you know what? I'm gonna start dropping Easter eggs, or I'm gonna start dropping a prequel into what I'm building, what I'm working on. And I'm gonna talk about it a hundred times a day. A lot of us are so worried about our screen time and our consumption. As someone who is actually actively choosing to be on their phone more, to post more consumption and your time on your phone are two different things. Now it comes down to discipline and self-control, right? If we're on our phones, we need to be able to trust ourselves to not doom scroll or go down a rabbit hole, a Reddit thread of what somebody else is doing, what somebody else is creating. So often we work so hard to emulate someone else because we are over consuming. Yesterday I was thinking about this. I was like, you know what? I have been scrolling way too much. I need to get back into the reading habit that I was building and create some distance so that I can start creating more. And I have been creating more, and I am seeing the positive benefit from it and my metrics and my engagement, even how I want to show up online. All of that is trial and error. Something that Taylor Swift does really well is she doesn't really worry about the perception of others. So whether she's using the VMAs or the Grammys or music video or commercial to promote something of her own. Oh well, whoop-dee-doo. It's her time, it's her 30 seconds, and she is using it to promote her work. And I am giving you permission to be just as selfish when it comes to your offers, when it comes to what you're building, when it comes to your brand. Put it out there. Let us see it. If we don't see it, we don't know about it. And your voice deserves to be heard. You have to have that confidence. You cannot be holding on to the perception of how other people see you. You cannot be worried about how much you're posting or how much you're on your phone or any of it. All of that is taking you away from your creativity, from what you are building. Her ability to build anticipation, to build interest, to reach different audiences, or maintain the fan base that she has to be so interested in what she is doing comes from consistency, discipline, and literally being so bold about what she's putting out there. And her story is also something that is very consistent, that is very public. Her storytelling. She has maintained a beautiful narrative that people want to buy into. Like she has all of these blips in her career that she takes ownership of and spins them into her music. That's where we get reputation. And honestly, reputation was my favorite album. And it sounds different from a lot of her music, which is why I think it was one that I really gravitated towards because there was this level of this is me. I'm in my villain arc. I've got to just start doing me. I've got to stay in my own lane. I can't people please my way into stardom. And that's a narrative that I resonate with. Like, I love that for you. I love that you have found your voice. I love that you're gonna come out with this edgy album, Look What You Made Me Do. I'm here for it. I am listening. There was a level of mystery and aspiration that came with that album that I really liked. But her music is a story. It is a story that millions, billions have brought into and have resonated so deeply with. And this is why we always say that storytelling is such an important component of your marketing. Storytelling gets to be the foundation of your brand. Part of it might feel like you're being a show girl. That's okay. I think we need to be a little bit of a show girl if we're gonna put our story out there. Being able to balance authenticity and performance is a beautiful dance. Being able to present yourself, who you are, to meet the people that are meant to find you and resonate and learn from you and want to work with you is such an amazing thing. We get so wrapped up in our heads about being a show girl that we forget that we are also human. And that is another thing that people resonate with. She has managed to maintain this human first. Oh, I'm just a girl with my girlfriends, like hanging out. She's managed to maintain this very relatable perception. Again, the story that all of us can relate to and buy into. Who are you? What's your story? What is the story that you want people to buy into? Why should people want to listen to you? That's where I have started sprinkling my own story into my content. Yes, I am a therapist, and I used to manage social media for a quasi-government agency. And I quit my job on the spot because I believed in trusting myself. All of the themes that I talk about on my show, they resonate to some degree better when I offer a story with them. When you share your story, it gets to resonate better with the audience. The audience gets to see you more and says, Okay, I can trust this person. And I want to challenge the storytelling, the narrative aspect. Because while Taylor Swift has maintained so much control of her narrative, a lot of feedback is the narrative hasn't changed. I constantly see the comment, why are we still talking about high school? You're like a 30-year-old woman. Why are this feeling of being a teenager, of nostalgia, why is this still a part of your music? So I want to pose the question: are there narratives about you that is holding you back from sharing your story? Are there aspects of your story that are holding you back from being seen and being visible? Yes, the answer is probably yes. Hell, I've had aspects in my narrative that have held me back from sharing my story. Like, what are people going to think? Oh my goodness, what if this person that I'm talking about finds it and I have to confront them? What will people think of me if I share this aspect of my story? It goes back to confidence and ownership. If you are willing to take ownership of that aspect of your story, if you're willing to recognize that that story is just one part of your journey, one part of your narrative that you do not have to continue to live under the shadow of, then you get to expand. You get to have some freedom, some wiggle room. The story about me quitting my job in the middle of the staff meeting. Yeah, I'm like, oh my gosh, what does this say about me? What does this say about my character? That I don't want to stay at a job that I'm a little unhinged in that moment. Yes. But it also reflects that I'm willing to trust myself, that I am willing to bet on myself, that I am willing to do the hard work. And I did. That's when I ended up Instacarting and DoorDashing. That's what a lot of people I don't think know about me. I have done the side hustles to keep the cash flowing. They made money and they allowed me to focus on my priorities when I needed to. And that's a story of resilience. That's a story of hard work and dedication to what I'm building. A lot of us probably have to take the shame out of our stories. We have to stop worrying about what other people will think about our stories. Because in the same way that a story can move us forward, it can also hold us back from creating a new narrative, from living out the narrative that is unfolding right in front of us. Which I know was also some commentary for the life of a show girl. She's happy now. She's in a relationship that she is thriving in. There's so much of her narrative that she gets to grow from and move on and gets to start a new story. We all get to start a new story at any point. We get to recognize our history as something that has shaped us, something that we have learned from, something that's given us so much of who we are and why we've built the business that we have, why we do what we do. But if your narrative is holding you back, if it is keeping you boxed in, your personal brand is always going to feel stuck because you are living out an old narrative. I think that happens for so many of us, though. We think about who we were, we think about that survival aspect that's possibly gotten us where we are today. Maybe some of the backlash, the moments that felt really impossible and they protected us, they kept us safe, and we sometimes hold a really nostalgic feeling about those moments. And I know that's one of the feelings that comes up for a lot of people that love Taylor Swift is there's a nostalgic aspect about her music, about that first love, about that friendship that felt light and fun, that ended unexpectedly, that journey that brought us so much joy. We get to honor that, whether that's in our art, in our business, in our hearts, because that's where we'll always live, no matter what. But if we're not going to give ourselves permission to step away from that narrative, to grow from that narrative, we're never going to know the direction we're headed. We're never going to see the vision fully if we don't allow ourselves to take that step forward to stop looking backwards. And that is again why people trust Taylor Swift. Because she honors those parts of herself, she honors that journey, that narrative, that story. And it's such a relatable story. And this goes right into my third point of building trust. Because she has a loyal, she has a loyal fan base. Y'all will dissect her music to a pulp, and I love it. I love I love that y'all love her so bad. But it becomes challenging when we cannot have nuanced conversations, and that's not the point of this episode. The point is that she has built such loyalty among her fans. I want to pose the question is the loyalty to her or to the story that is attached to her music? Is it the story that you have attached her music that you are loyal to? And it might be her. I think she is one of the few artists that I Recognize people have her back ten toes down. Like, criticism is not welcome. Heaven forbid you just make a comment or even feel neutral about her. I have a lot of friends who are Swifties, and so they confuse my neutrality to her. They're like, oh, you don't like her. No, I just am a neutral party. I have listened to her music, but I am not like streaming the album 500 times. Again, it's that loyalty to the narrative and it's that loyalty to the feeling that her music has elicited. It is offered someone reprieve from a heartbreak that they thought they would never recover from. It is offered hope and a friendship breakup that felt like the end of the world. It's offered comfort to a version of you that really felt alone, unseen, and uncertain if you were going to make it forward. And I think we all have an artist that elicits that feeling. That's how I feel about Lana Del Rey, honestly. Does not make it sometimes in the discourse. Like she has definitely had some more controversial moments. But as a certified sad girl, Lana was the music that offered me comfort. She allowed the sadness to feel digestible. She allowed that feeling of a feeling lost, a feeling misunderstood. It comforted that. And that's what I see with fans of Taylor Swift is that people want to jump to her defense when they feel like she's being misunderstood. And part of me wonders is the hope that someone out there does the same for you when you are being misunderstood? Or is misunderstanding her feeling like a misunderstanding of you? Taylor Swift has touched so many with her music. She has managed to create such a loyal fan base, people that truly resonate with her music, people that have felt healed and seen by her music, and so understood that sometimes it's really hard to separate the story from the music, from the artist. That's a really natural feeling. I think we all have that thing we feel really protective over because it's offered us some comfort. And it goes back to the story of Taylor Swift being the misunderstood girl who rose to the top, who found her voice, who found her confidence, who went up against bullies who weren't always nice to her, who got her villain arc, her revenge story, and now she has her happily ever after. There are so many people that resonate with that story. And there are so many people who root for that story. Taylor Swift is technically like the underdog story that we all root for. Like, yes, go get it. Her story is one that is more palatable versus the story behind Sabrina Carpenter's music. Again, y'all know I'm a Sabrina Carpenter girly, but she's got the sexual innuendos. She is someone that breathes confidence, sexuality. I am the it girl. Women are not yet celebrated to step into that space. Yet. Sabrina is choosing to create her own lane. She is choosing provocative. She's choosing to be loud, bold, and herself. And if it lands, it lands. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Her story's a bit less palatable. It's a harder to digest, especially if you are someone that struggles with your own confidence, that feels that insecurity to be loud to be seen. Who feels like, oh nope, that's not the right way to show up, who has that little voice in their head still. Taylor Swift has the underdog Sandlot story that all of us can enjoy and resonate and experience the trajectory through her music. Builds anticipation, storytelling, builds trust with your audience. These are three reasons why it is so important for you to establish your personal brand. Taylor Swift is evidence why it is important for you to establish your personal brand, it's not so that you can box yourself in, it's so that you can grow, so that you can evolve. So that opportunities that are meant to find you will find you. But if you are hiding, if you are allowing yourself to be limited by your industry's constraints, if you are not giving yourself the space to grow, you're just gonna still be hiding. Your offers are still not gonna be seen. Your podcast still isn't gonna be found, your voice still isn't gonna be heard, and we need your voice. I know we need your voice, I know your voice isn't out there yet. I'm happy I could implement some pop culture into marketing. I'm very excited for this episode to come out. This is another aspect of why I chose to pivot. I love talking about this stuff. I love studying this stuff. Yeah. That's all I've got for you today. I'm so excited for my dream date this week. And yes, my guests are my dream date because I always feel so lucky to talk to them. So my dream date this week is a former NFL cheerleader, Hannah LaBeau. You'll hear more of her story on Friday. Let me know what you think of this episode in the comments. Like, leave a rating. You can find me at Healing with Jasmine on all major social media platforms, and I'll see you Friday. And remember, we're setting the standard.

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