Rise to the Role: Leadership, Purpose & the Power Within with Randall Thames

What if the life you’re meant to live is already inside of you — waiting to be activated?

In this powerful conversation, Rachel sits down with executive coach, speaker, and author Randall Thames to explore purpose, identity, leadership, fulfillment, and what it truly means to rise into the role you were created for. Together, they unpack the difference between happiness and fulfillment, the danger of complacency, and why so many people stay stuck on the “lazy river ride” of life instead of stepping into their deeper calling.

Randall shares the philosophy behind his book and the In-Spirit Institute, explaining how discovering your gifts, abilities, and purpose can transform not only your career, but your entire life. From executive leadership to entrepreneurship, self-awareness to spiritual alignment, this episode bridges structure and soul in a way that feels both grounding and expansive.

Inside this episode:

• Why fulfillment matters more than external success
• The “gap analysis” framework: gifts, abilities, and purpose
• How to activate your “super purpose power”
• Identity vs activity: separating who you are from what you do
• Why complacency can quietly become a dragon
• The importance of systems, rhythm, and intentional daily practices
• Using AI as “actionable insight” instead of letting it control you
• The role of challenge, discomfort, and uncertainty in growth
• Why your greatest work may already be trying to emerge from within

This conversation is an invitation to stop waiting for permission and start trusting the purpose already inside you.

Because maybe the goal was never the peak.
Maybe the goal was always the journey.

Connect with Randall Thames:
Website: Inspire Institute
Book: Rise to the Role

And if this episode resonated with you, share it with someone who’s ready to rise into the next version of themselves.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:03

Okay, hi. Hey. If you're new here, welcome to the Fitsin Project. And if you're not, you already know we don't play small around here. I'm Rachel, corporate project executive Fade, yoga teacher and retreat host by Passion, and a woman wildly committed to helping you stop outsourcing your power. This show is where structure meets gold, where we regulate the nervous system and scale the business, and where we stop pretending burnout is normal. Quick love to the humans and brands that brought this show. And I actually use all these in real life. Rage Create for bold creative entrepreneurs, Lotus and Luna, Lifeform Yoga Matt, and Breath Work with Tabitha De Bruit. She is a game changer. Links are in the show notes. Support the ones that support this work. And alright, let's get it. Let's talk about today. Hi guys, come on in. Come back to the Fitsin Project for Mindset, Energy Management, and Conscious Leadership Collide. Like I just rebranded my whole entire podcast, cover art and everything. And oh, it feels just as empowering and just with as much alignment as this conversation is about to. I am joined with Randall Ann Tane. He is an executive coach, leadership strategist, speaker, and someone deeply committed to helping people align success with purpose. And for real, like this conversation went far beyond surface level leadership talk. You know, like we explored identity, uh performance, self-awareness, and truly what it means to lead from alignment from the inside out, instead of constantly chasing that validation titles and like all that achievement that we keep going for, that external stuff, you know? Like Randall for real, he like embodies this. He's even created his own institute, InSpirit Institute. And with that institute, he leads with his alignment and able and is able to help lead others find their super purpose, super power. Like, I can't wait for you to hear this conversation. It is super powerful. Randall brings the perspective that bridges this executive leadership style with humanity. Like you want to talk about structure, meets soul. This is the guy that, like, if I had met a year ago, I'm like, I want to be like you. I'm meeting him now and I'm like, I still want to be like you. Like, this is the guy, y'all. So whether you're leading a company, a team, family, creative vision, or simply trying to lead yourself better. I'm telling you, this one, this one's the one that's gonna challenge you in the best way. So settle in, get yourself a cup of tea or a cup of coffee. You know, take a deep breath. Enjoy this conversation with me, with Randall Thames. I am so excited that you're here. I've got this beautiful little masterpiece, and this is so cool.

SPEAKER_05 3:13

Thank you. Thank you so much. Um, the the whole premise behind InSpirit Institute is to inspire so people can kind of do what they do, which is display their superpower. Not only their superpower, their super

Introduction and Randall’s Mission

SPEAKER_05 3:30

purpose power. And so I'm just overjoyed to have this opportunity to talk about and unpack how it can be done.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Me too, Randall. This is so cool. I feel like I've waited for this day for so long just to have this conversation with you. You're such a um, like I even had a dream about it three days ago. Like, this isn't how excited I am.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Like you've entered my subconscious.

SPEAKER_05 3:58

Well, let's say this no longer a dream defer. There we go. We we cannot defer the dreams because the dreams lead to the vision. The vision leads to the process, the process leads to outcomes. So we gotta follow. Follow what it is that's in our subconscious and bring it out and execute.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Exactly. Oh my gosh. I feel like you could have this podcast

Helping Others Discover Their Super Purpose Power

SPEAKER_02 4:24

every week.

SPEAKER_05 4:25

Like hey, I'm up for it. I'm up for it.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Um so um how have you been? What's going on? What's your latest? That's what I want to know.

SPEAKER_05 4:37

So I, you know, I continue to, as an executive coach, I continue to work with people to, again, really help them discover, develop, display the best in them. And that's what I call their super purpose power. So I've been doing a lot of uh coaching, working with individuals. You know, a lot of times people come and say, hey, I want to work on getting an elevated job, or I want to do better at work. And we end up talking about how they can be a better them. And and then as a byproduct, everything else around them rises. Like, you know, the whole premise of rise is a rising tide raises all ships. So what tide are we going to rise? So those are the conversations I've been having.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Ooh, I like that. That rising tide raises ships, so he said. Did I get that right?

SPEAKER_05 5:29

Yeah, rising tide raises all ships. And so, what is it that you're gonna do to raise everything around you so that you too can do that and it starts within?

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Yes. I love like your whole premise

Gap Analysis: Gifts, Abilities, and Purpose

SPEAKER_03 5:43

of your book here. I've got some notes that I want to bring up to the forefront because you I know I like I wrote in your book, no, it's mine, but but I just love that every single time you always start with the self first. Like you've repeated that consecutively, that that's always like the first step, like you just said, when someone's coming to you and wanting to do better at work, like what is it you're gonna rise up first? How did you determine that? Like, where did that come from? Was that just born within you?

SPEAKER_05 6:24

Yeah, I think it's born within everyone. So I will actually what we call a gap analysis.

SPEAKER_04 6:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 6:31

Gap is gifts, abilities, and purpose.

SPEAKER_04 6:35

Ooh.

SPEAKER_05 6:36

And so, and that and then I say it's an inside-out job. So the inside of a gap analysis

Inside-Out Job: Bringing Spirit to Life

SPEAKER_05 6:42

is what are your gifts, abilities, and purpose. So you got to start in, then you fill out the gap. So that's in the gap, filling in the gap, then you fill out the gap, and how are you delivering your gifts, abilities, and purposes? And so the whole uh the thing about rise to the role is we always look at the outcome, but we have to step back and look at the process. And the process begins in in spirit is inside, and what that spirit leads you to do, what your gifts are, what your abilities are, what your purposes are, it's in the spirit, and then you got to bring it out.

SPEAKER_03 7:23

Yes. Totally. I feel like I resonate with that on so many levels. And I feel like with every podcast I've recorded, that is the mantra, is it's always from within to then bring out. And um, one of the cool things on in in your book, I've got here, let me find my page, is I want to read this out loud because this is what really struck a chord with me is that we all have talents, but they need to be activated. Sadly, though, some people with specific gifts and talents never express those talents because they stay in banal jobs and dull relationships out of

The River of Complacency and Purpose

SPEAKER_03 8:08

a sense of duty, loyalty, fear, and lack of ambition or energy. These are not necessarily bad jobs or abusive relationships, but they encourage a certain complacency, coasting along a gentle stream of habituated comfort, all fine, but limiting. That alone is so powerful for self-awareness, like what's going on, how to tap into your in spirit. I I just love it. I'd love to hear what you have to say about that specific thing that I just want to hone in on. This could be the whole podcast.

SPEAKER_05 8:45

Yeah, no. So when I was, I have two girls. Um, they're now 25 and 28. So we we would go to the water park. And at the water park, there was this ride called the uh lazy river ride. And so the lazy river ride is, and here I'm gonna tie it to what I said. It's the I call it the river of complacency. And you're the lazy river ride puts you on this nice, comfortable, floaty, and that's a microcosm for life, right? People get on the lazy river ride and they're comfortable, and it's moving, but it's not moving to the speed or to the ability or to really the direction that it needs to go for a lot of people. They're kind of floating on their lazy river ride, and it's where comfort and complacency resides, uh, but it's not where the intentional purpose should take them. You can move, but

The Challenge of Moving Beyond Comfort

SPEAKER_05 9:46

if you're moving, are you moving with purpose and intent? And so that is that's the challenge. That's kind of a wake-up, that's the agitation that needs to come in people's lives. Because I talk about later in the book um dragons. And so we always think of dragons as being something mean, but dragons can come in a form of complacency and comfort, and that limits and prohibits us.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

Yeah. Absolutely. I know what for myself personally, I've always got to have this next step for achievement, and it's so satisfying to me. Like it satisfies my belly that I'm like moving forward, moving up, either sideways to go, like you've written beautifully, or within the

Happiness vs Fulfillment

SPEAKER_03 10:37

same vertical path. Either way, there's got to be more, you know, and I feel like that's part of the soul is to have so much fun. Like, how expansive can you get?

SPEAKER_05 10:50

Yeah. You know, Rachel, I think it's the difference of what you just described in being happy versus fulfilled. You know, some people can be happy um if they are, you know, doing certain things that leads to events. And it's event-based, and it's externally stimulating, and that's where the happiness comes. Fulfilled means, listen, I may lose, but I learned something. You don't lose, you learn, right? So I may lose, but I learned something. I may go, you know, sideways, but I'm still picking up as I'm doing that. And so my strength meter is being uh really satisfied

The Journey Over the Peak

SPEAKER_05 11:34

and doing these types of things. And a lot of times for a lot of people, and you described it, comes in the form of challenge, right? And so we don't do challenging things. The word challenge by nature by itself means it's not going to be easy, but the challenge will be an opportunity for to charge you to go into a different place and operate in a different zone than where you are. A challenge means you're going outside and creating an opportunity for your inside to be enlightened and empowered and strengthened. And so that's that's I love that. I love that you take that uh on in life.

SPEAKER_03 12:17

Yeah. I feel like um I can when you say that and you're speaking, it's just like I can see such a reflection of where this has happened in so many places of my path and my journey. But you call it the journey the whole entire time. Like that is the goal, is the journey, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:42

And I feel like that is just so many light bulbs just come on, and I'm like, absolutely, the goal is the journey. It's not the end game, you know.

SPEAKER_05 12:53

It's not. I mean, when I talk about inevitable outcomes, right? That's one of the taglines and syllabus that I use and that we use. And so inevitable outcomes are created through not

Humanizing Leadership and Collective Impact

SPEAKER_05 13:07

the peak, but it is created through the process. So we have to focus on the journey or the process, not the peak. Because if we defer or delay our satisfaction gratification to the peak, we're missing out on so much with the process. The peak is 1%, the process, the journey is 99%.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Yeah. Absolutely. So another piece of what this did to me as well, I am not a C-suite, but I just hung out with all of the C-suites of my company last week. They chose me to go on this trip. I've, you know, so gratefully obliged.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

I'm like, yeah, of course, I'd love to go on this trip with all of you that I don't know. And it sounds like a blast.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

So but it was really cool because you humanized them for me. And it humanized the level of achievement to make it achievable in a journey that I think can feel intimidating, or maybe uh you even have examples of people talking about not feeling worthy enough to go on and move into that realm of leadership.

SPEAKER_04 14:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:35

And I'm just like, this is it was like reading with a friend, is what it felt like.

SPEAKER_05 14:43

Thank you for that. Because again, you know, the whole premise of wise to the role. And I always say role is any role that you define in life, right? Because you said something, Rachel, that the, you know, the C-suite, many of whom I don't know. Well, humans bleed, humans are being, and we're all part of one human race. And so some people are a little further along financially, intellectually, you know, as far as resources, but we're all in the race. So we all have to prepare, whatever part of that race you may be in, to know that there are slow movers, there are fast movers, there are joggers, there are runners, there are sprinters.

Super Purpose Power in Everyday Roles

SPEAKER_05 15:33

But we're all in it together. That's my point. Yeah. The C-suite, they're all in it with. Uh, I'll give you a story, uh, the checkout cashier. One of the uh words that I use is super purpose power. How I came up with that word, and this is the relevance of how everyone in their role is important and how you can rise to it. I was in a grocery store, I came upon a checkout person and struck up a conversation. We have a great conversation, and uh she I found out she was a grandmother. And I and she said, so you know, I'm just doing this to support, get a little bit extra support as far as the cashier. But my superpower is my grandkid. I said, wow. I said, so your purpose is not necessarily the cashier and being a cashier, but your purpose is being a grandmother. So that's your super purpose power is to spread the information that you just shared with me. That's how I came up with super purpose power through that conversation with grocery store. So I say that because everyone has a role and a purposeful role, regardless of whether you're in the C-suite or a cashier. It depends on how you want to activate it.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Yeah. I felt that. Like I felt that in my bones just last week. Just it was so cool because like the company I work at, they could have only acknowledged your sales group. And I'm not in sales, but they acknowledged that that is something they could have only acknowledged. And then they elaborated. But we know that in order for the sales to be even sellable, it takes everybody in the realm to work to get us to where we made a successful 2025, right? And I'm like, the fact that you all even acknowledge that, I've worked at so many other companies that could care less. Like couldn't care less. But you know, so it was just phenomenal to hear that that was the mindset and then being part of it. And that's the mindset that you've also fostered in this book is a collective.

SPEAKER_05 17:59

Yeah. I, you know, here's the thing, Rachel, and thank you for sharing that because I think aware, no, self-awareness is so important because without self-awareness, you're gonna let the world dictate based on like, well, you're you're in this world, you're in this job, you're in this function, therefore your value is is that. And it's not self-awareness, is understanding

Activating Your Inner Superpower

SPEAKER_05 18:23

that your value is so much greater than you know, the role that you have in life, regardless of what your role is. You know, even the president of whatever country, state, organization, their value is beyond their role. So that's what I'm saying. And uh here's the two words I like to use with that your activity and your identity. A lot of people ascribe their activity to their value. Your identity should be tied to that. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:01

Yeah, I'm writing that down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:04

Well, and that's part of a self-awareness awakening, you know, hopefully for for those that are listening.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

Yeah, it is a total identity shift. And when you can like get into that identity of your superpower and your super purpose, like those are the things that then drive the way you lead your life versus like what you said, having it, the world dictate what you're gonna be, where you're gonna go.

SPEAKER_05 19:38

Absolutely. And it it just doesn't happen. So I'm gonna date myself a little bit. There was this uh what they used to call cartoons back in the day, and their um the one cartoon set was they were called the Wonder Twins. And they they they they invoked their superpowers when they said Wonder Twin powers activate. And so it's there, it's in us, but you gotta activate. And they they would bump their fists together, and there were two twins, and they would bump their fists together, and they said wonder twin powers activate. And so that's why you know, with I I you and here's you have to do this you have to inform yourself with data, with information, and with experiences to understand that if you activate all of those things that are in you through data, through experiences, and through information, then you can activate some things that may be inside of you.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

Yeah, absolutely. Man, this is it's adding so much science to all of it as well. And it's it's like not that we needed the science because like Buddha didn't need the science and all of the things back before our time, but it's like so

Mastering AI and Data for Self-Discovery

SPEAKER_03 21:13

necessary now, in my opinion, like in the this day and age, like with the technology and having the social medias and prove to me why I should follow you type thing, versus you inside, like that is the science, like the data helps you take that inspired action, which I think in turn inspirit, you know?

SPEAKER_05 21:37

Yeah, thank you. So here you led me to that. Um, and here I'll take that inspired action and so here's what I've coined AI to be AI is actionable insight, so you need to be the landlord of AI and master. AI. Because a landlord is taking control. You know, the literal term is to be the boss or take control over that specific uh piece of land or governance. And so that's why I say if we are the landlords of our AI, that means we control it. It doesn't control us, therefore we shouldn't fear it, and make it actionable to the insights that that that data and

Tapping Into Your Inner Spirit

SPEAKER_05 22:33

information and AI offers. And then that creates that opportunity, as you said, to be inspired and then execute. So actionable insights. AI.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

I love it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

I love it. Yeah. I feel like I could have this conversation all day long. This this lights me up.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

But when we talk about your in-spirit, because you've got the in-spirit institute. Yeah. And that is also from like you're within. How do you tap into that with let's say, would you? I mean, for me, for example, let me put it this way, so I can ask this question a little bit better. I use AI to help me identify more about myself, just like I use journaling and I use meditation and prayer.

SPEAKER_04 23:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 23:33

But what are the techniques and tools? How do you use that for yourself in your In Spirit Institute when you are helping someone identify that purpose, super power?

SPEAKER_05 23:47

So I have a cadence. And um, so in my mantra is I provide insight, experiences, and data that inspire. That's where the in-spirit is. So I provide all of that, the insights, the experiences, and the data that inspire a cognitive reshaping. And that then ignites a decision to discover, develop, and display your superpower. And then when you do that, that will determine inevitable outcomes that will impact everything around you. So there's a sequence. There is a scientific sequence to this. And so I like to lay

The Sequence: Data, Inspiration, Decision

SPEAKER_05 24:40

out, I do it in the book, you know, I do it when I'm coaching, I do it through assessments for the organization. Um, but it's providing, so we start with we provide the data, the insights, and the information, and then we hope that that will inspire that cognitive, that neuro reshaping, shift your mindset. And then through that, that will ignite that, which you know, hence the inspire funding, that will ignite your decision because you have to have a decision to then discover, develop, and display what's already inside. That's where the in-spirit comes of you. And then once that is discovered, developed, and displayed, that will determine

Moving Beyond Fear and Uncertainty

SPEAKER_05 25:29

outcomes that impact your ecosystem.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Yeah. And that's why you're a magnificent coach, I can already tell. Because I feel like everyone, if they don't have a coach and they're they're wanting to see beyond the reef, so to speak, and bring in Moana a little bit. But if they want to see beyond the reef, things that they've never ventured into, I feel like this is an assist for that. And like how necessary it is in life to move with someone who might be like that extra 10% or can see from the different perspective, like your mindset shift that you just mentioned.

SPEAKER_05 26:13

Yeah. Yeah, it's riding the wave of you know, the inevitable wave that's coming. So are you gonna surfboard it? Are you gonna boogie board it? Or are you gonna let it come and just take over you? It's it's your that, and that's why there

Creating a System of Success (SOS) Routine

SPEAKER_05 26:31

has to be a decision to discover it, develop it, and display it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Yeah, for sure. Now, on this path, too, like you're kind of tipping into this a little bit when those things come up, like those big waves, and they can take you completely out and crash you out. Like, what is it that you recommend, or what's your step of getting out of that to then move forward? Because I feel like that's where a lot of people may start the journey, and that's great. But that consistency of staying, of getting back on the saddle or begin again type thing, that's hard.

SPEAKER_05 27:13

It is. And and when you operate off of feelings and emotions, um, that is actually something that is probably not it will be detrimental to you at some point or another because your feelings and your emotions, um, you know, they come and they go. And your feelings and emotions are vulnerable to circumstance. So here's what I say you do establish a system of success, an SOS. So the system of success is creating a daily rhythm that allows for you to operate. And I'm not saying being robotic, and I'm not suggesting that, you know, because again, you know, we're saying, oh, the you know, the machine learning and living is going to take over everything. What I'm suggesting is creating a daily rhythm or a pattern that is a system for you to operate under. Because when we operate in a system, we become part of

Morning Rituals: Wake, Worship, Wise Up

SPEAKER_05 28:20

that systematic process. When you operate in your feelings and emotions, then you're vulnerable to whatever the circumstances your feelings take you. So the daily rhythm. So here's what I suggest. And this is what I do in the morning. You talked about, you know, the journaling, the prayer, the meditation. So here's my system. I wake up. And I wake up to a world where I don't know what's happening or what's going to happen. But I don't wake up to a world and then just run to see what the world is dictating to me. No, I wake up, I worship, I then why up, I ask myself, why am I up? What's my purpose for today? So I wake up, I worship, I why up. Then I wise up. I've not reached for the phone, I've not reached for anything. All of this is in spirit, internal. The wise up is I go so that I can create learning opportunities. And that's the wise part. And then once I wise up, I ask myself, uh, do I want to get up? And if I want to get up, what is it that I'm going to do to work? It's working out, it's going to work, it's working on myself, it's working on, you know, my wife, my children. So I want up, then I work up, and then ultimately I take the attitude of winning up. And so that's my, that's my system. That is my daily rhythm. I go through this sequence. So, and I do it in a way that, you know, it's, I call it my starting five, you know, because if those who are familiar with basketball, the basketball team, the coach puts out his best five players to start the game. And so I see this as I put

The Power of Gratitude, Meditation, and Reading

SPEAKER_05 30:23

out my best starting five to start the game of my life through that sequence of wake up, worship, why up, wise up, want up, work up, win up.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

That is awesome. Yeah. The five starting five, absolutely. I'd have like maybe two of those in my routine that keep me going every single morning. And I now will probably be restructuring my morning based off of your five whys. Because I love that. I have um, I personally I will get up. It's not get up, I don't get up right away. I'm like awake and I look around and I'm like there. And I will just start like a gratitude session for myself and like the day, and like, oh, I've got another day. Thank you, you know. And then I'll move into a meditation, and then recently I've moved into um reading, and I'll write after I read, yeah, usually, but I was just writing, but now I've gotten into the reading part. So that's been super helpful for me. Is maybe that's part of the um wise up for me that uh could just add into yours.

SPEAKER_05 31:50

There you go. Well, you just had your awakening moment.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Exactly. You're so putty.

SPEAKER_05 31:59

Absolutely. And I say, you know, this part about when the student is ready, the teacher will show. And so that reading part uh is is in my opinion, and you people are different learners. And some people are learners through, like I love to write, um, I love to self-reflect. Um, I am a high-functioning introvert, uh, which a lot of people, because I do public speaking, you know, plat, uh, you know, all of that. Uh, but I get my my juice when I'm there in that, as you described, that awakening moment, so that I can learn what circumstances I can um draw in and then ultimately take out.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

Yeah, for sure. Because I mean, your book offers so many tools and tactics to have for a successful grow rise up, right? I was about to say grow up, but that's not but rising into uh the role you want to be in. There's a lot of uh amazing advice in here on how to go. And I feel like a bit of that could feel overwhelming, but the starting point is really simplified in your start of the day. And like you don't have to take it all in at the very first day. But like you said, like there's ways you can move and you it's a flow, it feels like a dance, is what I was reading of how you want to go up or sideways or move up, or even sideways and down to then move back up. Like it was a total waltz

The Dance of Life and Movement

SPEAKER_03 33:49

of what I was reading. I was like, this is interesting because like I've done this without knowing it, but I've done it. It's wild.

SPEAKER_05 34:00

Yeah, and that's why I call it when when I say the uh my system is a rhythm, it's a daily rhythm, it's a it's a dance. And so, um, and interestingly enough, I try to dance every day, like literally, I dance uh and like to myself, with myself, for myself, uh, because I just think that that is just it is a it's part of flow. And so now let's do let's get the physical part in this process, physical movement of of doing that, you know. Life gives us a song and a rhythm. And if we're able to kind of catch it, you can tell the people literally sometimes that are in rhythm of life, and those that can't quite catch that beat of life. Yeah, and it's not that they're actually dancing, but they are, like you said.

SPEAKER_03 34:58

Yeah, it's a total flow of a dance. Um it's just it can be so graceful. And then you can also, like you said, run in the trails and watch your feet and watch you fall, you know. So yeah, it can be both ways, but I feel like when you know you're against the grain or against the rhythm of the flow, like that's when you start turning inward. And that's when you start really analyzing

Shifting Gears: Adapting to Life’s Rhythms

SPEAKER_03 35:30

with your data and your experiences, like what is going on. And then you can shift. Because I don't think there's just one shift that people make in a lifetime. I think it's compound shifts that make a flow of a dance, so to speak.

SPEAKER_05 35:49

That's why um automobiles have six gears. You can't stay first or second, or you can't stay in fourth gear all the time, or fifth gear, or sixth gear. Yeah, different, they're different elements and that there are different callouts for those shifts in life. And sometimes you gotta operate in first to get started. And then there are times when you gotta punch it and go one, two, three, four real quick. Or sometimes you gotta ease your way up. And it all depends on that flow and that rhythm as you talked about.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

Mm-hmm. So when you're coaching, I know you can coach um executive level. I know you can uh do

Coaching at All Levels: From Entrepreneurs to Executives

SPEAKER_03 36:39

the um speaking engagements and things like that. What about entrepreneurs and those just starting in that realm? Is that um a sector of yours as well?

SPEAKER_05 36:52

Yeah, actually, yeah. So I, you know, part of the book was to say, hey, I yes, I coach executives and high-level uh folks, but I also coach um and mentor people who are in their teams. I I have a uh a cadre of folks that are early careerists. I have people who are themselves entrepreneurs. Um, you know, I I so it's at all levels. It and now it has to match, it has to fit. I'm not for everyone, everyone's not for me. Um, but wherever you are, and again, that's why I define rising to your role. Your role

Business of Yourself: Discover, Develop, Display

SPEAKER_05 37:34

could be hey, I want to be a better, you know, husband or wife. I want to be a better uh business partner, I want to be a better business person, I want to be a better podcaster. So, whatever that role is, the simple formula is have you discover, develop, and displayed what is in you to maximize what you can give.

SPEAKER_03 38:04

Yeah. So when I ask you this question that I ask everybody, what does it mean to you to be in the business of yourself? How would you answer that?

SPEAKER_05 38:15

It is amazing. And I fought it for so long. You know, I've I spent 35 years in corporate America working for some of the largest companies in the world. Um and, you know, representing those companies, I it you talk about the rhythm and the flow and kind of catching it. I always could go in and I could represent, I could speak well, I could represent well, but I wasn't fulfilled. Being in the business of being that inspirer and through the institute to help others, uh is just amazing. And and and again, that's drawing from my superpower word is inspired. Right? So I picked that up. I famously tell the story about my daughter, who was at that point in the sixth grade, wrote about me, her dad, and she said, Ah, my dad inspires. He inspires people, inspires everybody around him. And so I was like, oh, that's so cute. So I had it and I framed it and I put it on my office wall. And for years and years and years, almost decades, I had that word staring at me, but I wasn't fully activating it. Therefore, these jobs, this career, it was good. And that's what I had these conversations with a lot of uh executives. It's good, but is it fulfilling? Is it what I want my legacy to reflect? And all of a sudden, lo and behold, I look up and I see this word staring at me, inspire. And how do I inspire people to be their very best, not for what they do, their activity, but for their identity. And lo and behold, creating In Spirit Institute, inspiring you through your inside spirit, through all of these different venues, the the book, the podcast, the you know, the coaching, the you know, we have online assessments. So absolutely amazing. And so here's the thing. I come back and I say, Rachel, damn, why didn't I do this earlier on? That's one of the things that I want to get the word out. If it's there, it's there for a reason.

SPEAKER_04 40:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:41

Because now I'm kicking myself, gosh, I could have had, you know, years and years and years ahead of where I am now, if I would have just surrendered to that superpower earlier.

SPEAKER_03 40:53

Yeah. And it's gotta be a little scary, perhaps, of coming into uh your superpower because while it's always been with us, it's almost uncharted waters. It's not what everyone else has. It's not what everyone else does. It's unique to you. And that's scary to, and my word has been evoke certainty. Like evoke certainty in yourself that you got this, that you are in creation with your source and you're in spirit. There is no other answer for you. So be certain that that's your partner, that you are in with it, you know.

SPEAKER_05 41:43

So here's the thing about, and I I love that you talked about, you know, being in sync. So we are created. Let's let's use a product. A product is manufactured so that it represents the manufacturer, the maker, right? The maker is not going to make that product make it look bad. The product should not look bad for the maker or the manufacturer. We are the product of our creator. We weren't created to look bad, we were not created to fail. We were created to have dominion, to excel, to be the boss, to represent. A lot of people don't realize or recognize that. They're walking around like they're broken. Well, that's the other part. When a product is broken, send it back to the manufacturer so that it can be fixed. And if we go to our creator, the creator has the ability because the creator made us to fix us so that we can go back out and represent and be the best product. Here's the charge: be the best product that you can use.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

Yes, I got chills from my head down to my feet. Like, absolutely, yes, this is what I'm talking about, Randall. This is it.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

Yes, it is literally we are the product of our maker. And that's that's that. And you have to trust that. How do you trust that after you spend so many years just not with it? How do you then cultivate that trust?

SPEAKER_05 43:39

It's a it's a day. Well, so it's the system going to that system beyond rhythm to remind yourself of, you know, that you were made to win, win the day. It's a system that also says to you that um you're gonna have down. Days. But if you you know, as you as you do, if you journal every day, if you give yourself into the journaling and reading and creating the best environments for yourself, your greater days will be more than your down days. And it's a in here now. Here you're playing the percentages and creating an opportunity to have your greater days more than your down days. And how do you do that? You know, you self-describe, Rachel, as your your wake, you're having an awakening and creating opportunities through reading, through journaling, through prayer, through meditation, through we talked about movement. These are all formulas that create a greater day beyond your down day. Simple things in life, exercise, being around, laughing, crying, doing the things, and crying, especially for some, you know, and men as a culture, we're talking, oh, you're not supposed to. No, we were made, we were created to cry. We were created to laugh. We were created to move. So why are we not doing those things and maximizing who we are through those things?

SPEAKER_03 45:24

Absolutely. Well,

Legacy of Inspiration and Impact

SPEAKER_03 45:28

I have a question for you left by my previous um podcast guests. And not that they knew that you were coming, but they have asked everyone. Let me find it. I should have had it right in front of me, but instead I had my work notes. What is the legacy that you want to leave for people, for yourself?

SPEAKER_05 45:56

The legacy that I would like to, well, again, it is to now I'll start with my my word. Inspire that you have the abilities, the gifts, the gap, the g the gifts, the abilities and the purpose to create impact and outcomes for everything. So I'll I'll slow it down. Inspire to give an awareness that you have the gifts, abilities, and purpose to create impact and outcomes for everyone. So I'll shorten that. Inspire my legacy is inspire people to live their best life.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

Yeah. And I think if they meet

The Power of Random Acts of Giving

SPEAKER_03 46:43

you, they know that. Like that's just like your little girl. She didn't have to be told that. Like that's just who you are. Like you look like you embody that. You speak, you bring that to the table. So yeah, I can you're doing it. How about that?

SPEAKER_05 47:02

Thank you, Angel. Yeah, and you are as well. And so here's here's the like real life example because you know, you are evoking that intentional act of creating opportunities for people to display their best. You are evoking that through what you're doing. And so great for you. And so I say we do it, you know, we don't have to do it in a big complex way. We can do it through, you know, random acts of giving, rags, random acts of giving. And so if we do those random acts of giving, that creates you're creating a legacy with this discussion for many people.

Closing Remarks and Gratitude

SPEAKER_05 47:45

Thank you for giving us that, Rachel.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

You're welcome. Thanks for listening and for being part of this, part of this journey. I'm just so happy that I got to have this conversation with you. Like you, as a special person, Randall. Like I feel like this has just been a gift. And I probably I don't care if there's not one person that listens to it. This was meant for me, and I will take this and receive it. So thank you for everything.

SPEAKER_05 48:17

Well, thank you. You know, they say feedback is a gift, and so thank you for that feedback and the gift of that feedback, and I will give to you as well. Thank you. Thank you for doing what you do, for living on your purpose, and for making a difference for both self and others. I appreciate you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

What a conversation. Goodness. I think um what stood out to me the most in this episode is the reminder that leadership isn't just about performance, but rather it's like having that courage to actually look inward instead of constantly searching for the next external win. You know, Randall brought so much wisdom to this conversation, and I hope you felt challenged, grounded, and maybe even seen in some of the places we explored today. So I'm gonna leave you with this question, okay? Who are you when there's nothing left to prove? Like, not when you're performing or producing or chasing that next achievement, but underneath all of it, who are you really becoming? Sit with that this week. And if this episode resonated with you, do me a favor. Share it with someone else who's navigating leadership, growth, identity, or simply just trying to create a life that feels as good internally as it may look externally, right? So if you haven't already, leave a rating and review for the FitzN project. And that genuinely helps the show grow and helps these conversations reach more people. And you can also connect with me on Instagram at theFitsen Project or subscribe to the newsletter for updates, reflections, and events on everything unfolding. So I've got some awesome stuff coming up, you guys, and a community that I'm truly nourishing and creating. Um, so I'd love for you to get in there, get into the newsletter. That's where you're gonna find out how to join all of these beautiful things unfolding. So until next time, I hope you remember you are your most important project.