Let's Sit With This

10 Ways to Make Your Relationship Worse (And How to Stop) feat. Megan Secrest, LCSW

Kristen Callaway, LMFT

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If you've ever felt stuck in the same argument, the same distance, the same pattern that never seems to change — this episode is for you.

I'm joined by returning guest Megan Secrest, LCSW, EMDR Certified therapist, and owner of Gift of Grit Counseling here in Edmond, Oklahoma. Megan is pursuing certification in Relational Life Therapy — a couples model developed by Terry Real that is refreshingly honest, a little unconventional, and genuinely effective.

We dig into Terry Real's five losing strategies from The New Rules of Marriage, walk through Megan's viral post "10 Fantastic Ways to Get Less of What You Want in Your Relationships," and talk about what's actually happening underneath the patterns that push people away — and what to do instead.

This one is for anyone in a relationship of any kind. You don't have to be in crisis for this to be useful.

In this episode:

  • What Relational Life Therapy is and how it's different from other couples models
  • The five losing strategies and what's underneath each one
  • Why skills don't work until you do the deeper work first
  • How to make requests instead of complaints — and why it changes everything
  • The difference between withdrawal and responsible distance taking
  • What to do when your partner isn't on board

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Let's Sit With This is hosted by Kristen Callaway, LMFT — a licensed therapist in Edmond, OK.

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