Gettin' to Market
For when your job is real, but your role is…negotiable.
A podcast about building products, launching them, and figuring out how to stay useful along the way.
Podcasting since 2025 • 36 episodes
Gettin' to Market
Latest Episodes
36 - The Detractor Trap
How much can one angry customer shape your view of the product? How much should it? Nate and John discuss the outsized influence of vocal detractors, why being an internal product evangelist matters, and John's story of passive-aggr...
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35 - Personal Brand with Mary Scott Van Arsdale
When's the last time you updated your LinkedIn? If you're scrambling to answer that, this episode is for you.John and Nate sit down with Mary-Scott Van Arsdale—a marketing and content strategist who's helped build both corporate brands a...
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Season 2
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Episode 35
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36:39
34 - Money Talks: How to Think About PM/PMM Compensation
Let's talk about the thing everyone thinks about but nobody wants to say out loud: compensation. Nate and John are joined by Rachel Stanley, Portfolio Product Marketing Manager at Red Hat, for an honest conversation about salary bands, equity, ...
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Season 2
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Episode 34
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44:57
33 - How Your Product's Investment Affects Your Role
Your company's investment level in a product fundamentally changes what your job looks like as a PM or PMM. John and Nate break down how your priorities shift across the spectrum: high-growth products chasing new customer acquisition, retention...
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32 - Defensive Conversations
Nobody likes having hard conversations at work. Whether it's telling customers the feature they requested isn't going to make it into the product, pushing back on scope creep from other teams, or explaining why you can't take on that "quick fav...
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Season 2
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Episode 32
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25:57