Episode 44 Feeling good in your body with Isha Casagrande

Join us as we explore the journey through menopause, style, confidence, and health with Isha Casagrande. This honest conversation covers personal stories, style tips for midlife, and navigating hormonal changes with humor and resilience. In this insightful conversation, Isha Casagrande shares her expertise on menopause, style, and self-confidence, emphasizing practical tips for women navigating hormonal changes and wardrobe transitions. The discussion highlights the importance of self-love, understanding your body, and embracing change with confidence.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hi everyone, and welcome to Take a Pause with Mini Pals, where we will talk about the pause and all of her glory and not so glory. But the conversation will always be uh true, fun, and honest. I mean, you gotta be honest with what's happening with us girls, right? Like you gotta prepare the others. So today I'm so happy to be um with my co-host, Raquel, my partner in MetaPause. Hello, Raquel. Hello. And we have today with us Isha, who is a stylist concierge, as I like to bring a little flair with the French in there. And um, we're gonna hear about her journey with menopause and her journey to how she helps women regain their confidence with styling. I mean, I know I can style myself in the 80s, but this is 2026.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

So I feel like I'm still wearing the 80s styles sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

I don't know why I still have a leather jacket.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

It is coming back. So I knew it. I knew it recycled some clothes.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

Yeah. I don't know if I'll look the same, but we're gonna get there. We're gonna talk about it as uh as we go. So welcome, Isha.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. And um, you know, I kind of hate that we're talking about menopause, but I I'm trying to change my attitude and be like, um, how blessed are we that we get to have a voice in this and that we're really changing things for the younger generation where they're not going to have to suffer the way we have, and then we think we're suffering. Imagine 10 years ago, five years ago. Yeah, even what women have gone through 20 years ago. And so I'm changing my attitude, like, yay, I get to go through this. What an honor.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

I get to. That's the that's the new word. That's the phrase. Yay, yay. It's funny you mentioned that too, because I look back at my mom and I was telling her yesterday she's like a huge catalyst to like why I decided to go into Minipaws and get down this journey. Not only I struggled, but she really had a rough go. Like, she's she's 68, and she's basically like just stuck to a recliner because of her central nervous tremors and all the other like laundry list of things that happened to her because of lack of lack of whatever of was for her. So I appreciate you even bringing that up, Isha. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

You know what? My mom passed away two weeks after her 45th birthday from cancer. So she never got to experience any of this. And there's really no women in my family. So I do feel like I have been like on abandoned on an island all by myself trying to figure it out. And I've really actually had a really hard time with it, and I continue to have a hard time with it. And I just keep thinking, I'm gonna wake up one day and be like, I made it, I'm on the other side. I'm waiting for that. Okay, welcome.

SPEAKER_02 2:45

You're in the right room. Welcome, we're in the right room. Come on in. The water's warm, is what I say. The water's warm. Come on in. I don't know that I can handle the hot right now.

SPEAKER_03 2:53

The water's cool.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

The cool. Oh, goodness. Yeah. So I am a style concierge and I have been a wardrobe consultant for 30 years. Um, it started years ago. I opened up a store just because I was a diehard shopper. Remember, Confessions of a Shopaholic. That was totally me, like credit cards out of control. Loved shopping, loved doing all things. And I thought, oh, I'm gonna open a store and um turn it into a career. And it took all the fun out of shopping. I can tell you that. That's not even I can't even remember the last time I've been in a mall. And that used to be my favorite thing to just go walk around and look and try things on. And now I'm like, I it's a it's a whole different world. But I I owned stores and my whole evolution really changed, um, it which really brought me to today. I I hate retail, actually. I'm not a salesperson, so I don't like trying to sell somebody an outfit that is not. I'm actually I I talk people out of things more than I talk them into them.

SPEAKER_03 3:52

Don't tell Macy's.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

Because I oh I have a story of all no. Uh-huh. Um, but I really like it's it's a feeling. So when I talk about personal style, I don't care what you're wearing. I don't care how much you paid for it, I don't care what brand it is. Yeah, yeah. Some of it's and it gets exciting, but I don't care. I think the greatest thing that ever happened with fashion is when Target started teaming up with the high-end designers and they came out with some collections, and that was the first time that we were given permission to mix highs and lows and not have to spend a lot of money. And it really, really changed the dynamic of style. So I owned my store. Again, it wasn't my favorite thing to do, but all these women would come in and they really wanted help. And so I really loved working with people one-on-one. Um, and and and really seeing like watching a woman put something on and being like, Oh, oh my god, I didn't think I could wear this, right? You know, that feeling where you're just like, oh, versus a woman putting something on and coming out and going, Well, what do you think? I'm like, Well, I hate it. Like, I love it, but it doesn't matter because you don't, because you didn't come out with that that correct. This is this is it. And so it was really fun teaching women on how to feel excited about the way they looked again and why things worked, and actually teaching them why you felt so good putting this on. It's the shape of something, it's the shape of your body. Here's why you love that it hit you higher at your waist because you're so much smaller there that it you know gave forgiveness for everything else that was going on, but really teaching people how to do that. And then, you know, in in my I like to just like let's entertain. Like my mom was a singer, my dad played with Ike and Tina Turner. Like, I mean, I grew up with nobody knew this. All other podcasters. We could be all other oh my god. It's I my dad, he sometimes will call me and he'll be like, Did I ever tell you about the time that I was a roadie for the Rolling Stones? I was like, No, I love him. He goes, Did your mom? Because my mom did pass away, so he goes, Did did she ever I and the I this should not offend anybody when I say it like this, but did she ever tell you about the guy that was so hopped up on her, like so wanted to be with her when I met her, but she was kind of afraid of him. So think this is in the 60s, right? Yeah, and this is when the Black Panthers were just coming out and like things were changing, right? And I'm like, Dad, who? She goes, he goes, she was kind of like he he wouldn't leave her. Jimi Hendrix. Oh my are you kidding me? Jimmy couldn't like daddy, what are we talking about here? Dad, move over. And I'm like, no, this is this was just in the last couple of years. I'm like, no, these are things that I did not know about.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Amazing. I've been interviewing. I've been interviewing. I love Jimi Hendrix.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

You know, they have a whole book for like people that are aging that they can like talk and like write a book. You should totally look into that. So I think it's like 99 bucks or something, and then you can have him write a book because that is a story.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Yeah, I've been interviewing my dad. Um, he could we'll just get together and I'll set up a camera and and do all that. So super fun. So I have that entertainment bug in me. So um I would go to market to shop, and I would just I'd be talking to designers, like, hey, you want to come to Reno and do a trunk show? You want to like people didn't even know what they were then. I remember when you rolled those out here and people were like, I bring in brand new designers and there are people that still have things from back then, but I even got like I worked ahead Betsy Johnson come to town. I guess Max Azria come to town. I I mean it was just crazy the things that I would do, and I'm like, oh, it was so fun. And I worked with all the nightclubs in town. So they were like, heck yeah, you can do something here. And um gosh, I just loved it. I had so much fun. So one of the things that I did, I did Reno's Next Top Model. So when America's Next Top Model came out, I did Reno's Next Top Model. It was for a ladies' night in one of the nightclubs in town, and it was cool. Like it was things that people do now, but they didn't do then, right? Where I'd have a photographer there doing a live photo shoot and you'd see it up on the screens and this now. Well, at the time, they had gone over what was it? Not Fox. It was whatever the news station was, whatever the station was, they came in and they're like, you know, that's copyright. You can't, you can't call it that. And I was like, God, I had no idea, right? Like I don't know. You don't know what you don't know. Well, and then they wound up, they wound up hiring me to work on two seasons of the show for America's Next Top Model. And they used to fly all the models into Reno. So I would do a whole thing in them in Reno. It's like I've had, and then I wound up um hosting TV shows for Fox and NBC. And now I'm still on the news all the time. Like I do things all the time. So it's funny how this journey has just kind of taken me through because listen, I'm real. I'm for the real woman. It's like I don't care what you're wearing, but how much fun are you having in what you're wearing? If you're not having fun with how you're getting dressed, if you're if you stand in your closet, you're just like, oh God, you know, like this, like it's a getting dressed shouldn't be a burden. It's something you have to do every day. It should be something that makes you feel amazing, right? Yeah. So just although I loathe it. I'm like, oh that even though we have to accept we're a menopause, we have to accept that we still have to like there still is that girl inside of us. It just takes a little bit more work right now as we're figuring it out. So over the years, I mean, things have just changed, you know, changed and I've added on. And so now, you know, I really call myself a style concierge because, you know, style, we all know that word. And concierge is like, hey, I'm here really for all the needs. So I public speak, I do trainings for for groups, I help companies up level what their staff looks like to help them there. But I launched, it's called the confidence style method.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Yes, yes, I've been seeing your post on this.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Amazing, amazing program. It has it just launched, I don't know, three or four months ago. I have my my um VIPs, which actually I was just on a call with them last night and we're kind of revamping some things because I'm learning too what this looks like. But it's everything that I've ever done with women one-on-one in their closets and teach you at your own pace. So instead of the like, like if I said right now, Raquel, I'm coming over to go through your closet, how would that be? Would you wouldn't open your door, right?

SPEAKER_03 10:17

Yeah. Like I just added, like I, as you were saying it, I actively felt my tightening in my chest. Like, oh my God, somebody's gonna come over and look at my closet. It's a hot mess. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

And and so this was really a way where I could still um personal style people and help them in their own closet and teach everything, but you could go at your own pace. Yet we have monthly coaching calls. So last night was one of those. So then it's great. So these women come on and they get to ask questions and they can show me in their closet and they can ask how things work. So it's really been fun of turning everything that I do into um just this thing that really just helps women. And what I'm learning right now is because I menopause has been really rough, and that's you know, our next story. I last night I admitted to them, I was like, you know what? I can't stand my body right now. I'm turning 55 this year. So I'm going into like things have changed legitimately that even if I magically lost the 30 pounds that I put on, I still can't wear the same things that I used to. So it's like a double whammy for some of us.

SPEAKER_03 11:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

With age and everything. And instead of standing in my closet crying, I'm like, you know what? I need to get this. Can I cuss? Oh, yes. I need to get this shit out of here because it's making me feel bad every time I open the door. Yeah. And I would rather open up the door of my closet and see five things that I love than 105 things that I cannot wear right now. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

That is so validating.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

It really is. And and so, really, personal style isn't even about style. It's not about fashion, not with what I do. Personal style is like, how do you want to feel today? How do you want people to see you? What kind of energy do you want to put off? You know, we know when you look good, girl, when you got it going on, you're like, Yep.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

So like a little wiggle in the hips when you walk in.

unknown 12:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

See, I want to hear that attitude.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

But there's also things like boyfriend jeans or weekend jeans, you know, where you're in that mode and you're like, eh, or the ripped t-shirt that you just want to wear because you've worn it for 20 years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

But you can feel pretty hot in that too sometimes. You can, I know. You can. So because if those are the things that you're reaching for, how do we take that into a style context and create a wardrobe for you that still has that feeling that is that comfy, you know? One of the good things, there's a few things that happened good through COVID, and one of which was clothing became a lot more comfortable. Because women, we have been like, we're not wearing nylons, we're not wearing uncomfortable fabrics, we're not gonna wear heels that hurt our feet all the time.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

The thing came up with nylons. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

A man. That's what I say. I'm just gonna be no woman would have made them like before I was in fashion. I actually worked in health insurance and I worked for a brokerage, and I was like, it was like a good old boys' club, and I was like the little token young 23-year-old that would be in the cute little suit and the red lips and the whole thing. And they used to make us wear nylons, and I fought the company. I was like, I'm done. I'm not wearing them unless you'll pay for them. If you want to pay for them and give me it about so I fought the whole company and it wound up changing everything for the whole company, good for you.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

I'm not like I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

No, no. I I worked at the bank at 20 and it was the same. They wanted you to wear the bank or the the nylons. Same. It was the good old boy club, but I I I just was like, I I'm not, I'm not doing that. Like I would wear pants or I'd wear really long skirts so I could not show the I'm not wearing nylons, but I wasn't wearing those things. I hated them.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

Brittle, brittle. They are and the thought of them right now makes me want to burst into flames.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

You see, you got the tiny in your chest. I actually, my husband and I, we were at um a wedding. So we're in a church, and I I wore the nylons because I'm like, oh, it doesn't look right without because you're trained that way. You're like, oh, you know, we should you don't have to bear like long story short, I said, I will be right back. He said, You're gonna go take the nylons off? I said, you know it. I went to the ladies' room, peeled them off, threw them in as I'm like making eye contact with another woman, and she's like, Good job. And just threw them in. I was like, I would have burned them if it wouldn't have burned the church down. But I was like, oh my God, like you're so uncomfortable in them. And it's for what reason? It's crazy. Right. That's just crazy. Like I'm setting it.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

There's so many things that you can do. And here's the thing is I have all the tips and tricks and all the little secrets on how you can still feel confident and covered and um still get the effect, like you have something, your skin nice and beautiful and perfect, and not have to deal with those things. So there's a lot of we have a lot of great resources that we didn't have before.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

True. That's very true. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

So menopause.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

I was gonna say, so talk about your journey a little bit if you want.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

No, and yes, you can continue to curse.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

This is a safe place. This is a safe place. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

And that's okay too. You're in good company.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

You know, I um it's funny because well, I lived in San Diego, moved back to Reno, Nevada three years ago. And when I was down there, um, you know, it was care I was in a bathing suit or workout clothes, or you know, it's very casual there. And it that was hard. Like I didn't love that because it was it was hard to get dressed. And, you know, I didn't realize I was already starting to have hot flashes and things like that. And then when you're in the humidity like that near the water, it it's it's just confusing to your body altogether.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

Especially when you don't know. It's the not knowing that really kicked my butt.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Well, and I came back here, and um, one of the first things that I did when I got back with my doctor here is I wanted my IUD removed. I had had it in for 20 years. I didn't, I and I never had a period through those 20 years. My son, I really think it was a miracle child, like meant to be mine, because it took me a long time to get pregnant with him and I had these crazy cycles. I was never somebody like I would have six weeks, eight weeks, three weeks. Like I just never had a normal. And so I had him when I was 26. So from that point on, I had an IUD. So even when I still think of this, my doctor was like, Are you sure you don't want to keep it in? Because this one, they say it's five years, but you can keep it in eight years. I'm like, get it out. I want to see where I'm at. I want to feel it all. Oh, yes. Are you regretting that choice? Oh my god. In hindsight, I could have still had that baby in here, and it was almost like, you know, it came out and it was like, All right, girl, let's go. And I was like, wait, I wasn't ready for that at all. And um boy, I just um I'll tell you, start, I'm a very upbeat positive person. I don't like arguing. I'm not, I don't, it takes a lot to get me angry. I see the good in things, and I was just raging. Yeah, raging. Yeah, like I just got engaged and I'm surprised he stuck around this. Because I really like when I think back on just and not even just raging externally, what it felt like internally to blood boiling, like you can't, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

It's like a vibration inside that you're like anger-filled. For yeah, like you want to punch a wall or something. I never felt like that in my entire life. And it's maybe because somebody like you know pulled out in front of you in the highway. You know what I mean? It is like you're going along, singing a song, and then you're like, oh my god, you know, and it's like, oh, let's just deep breathe. It's in out. It's like, what happened?

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Well, and just to be completely unreasonable with yourself, you know, there's that too. Oh my god. You know, where where I always say there's a couple of me in here and we argue with each other sometimes, but there's always been several of us in here, but now it's there's you the good one and the bad one. But um, we're learning to to live together a little bit better than we have in the past.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Well, this is good.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

So over the time and my um my fiance now, but I called him my guy before because I'm too old to have a boyfriend, right? So he would call me his lady and I'd call him my guy. And um, he was still in San Diego. So we bought a house here. So for for about a year or so, we were long distance, which always kind of worked for us. We always kind of did that. Like he'd go home to the East Coast, and when we first started, we were long distance, and and you know, it's it it was great when we were together and everything. Well, then he moved here full time in the middle of me going through this, and he wound up leaving his company, and and it was a hard time to find work again. So he didn't work for a while. So now here I am going, you know, through the thick pause, and here he is going through, you know, midlife, like, oh my god, what do we do? kind of thing. And it it really, really was difficult when I think back on the last couple of years. Um, you know, we get through that, but then I start thinking about just how I'm feeling I feel so like I almost feel like in the last even 24 hours I've had aha moments of like, I've been so disconnected from myself. So like just like what is happening? Like, what fog have I been in where I'm hopeful that this little transition that I'm feeling right now is kind of like, okay, it's gonna start evening out. And I'm starting to accept, and I'm finding that's a big part of it is that you go through all this and you can be mad and you could be angry. I mean, I do have a whole conversation planned for God and I when I get to heaven that I think this was super rude, of how he figured this out. And I uh yes, and I mean it. Um but but I'm also like, okay, it is what it is. So how do I make the best of it? And what can I change to help myself through some of this? I've had um hopefully my doctor never listens to this, but I have a doctor who is younger than me. She's not in menopause, she has young kids. She was very honest with me from the beginning that she had no idea really about hormones. That's something that they weren't taught. So this is the left, like honestly, the last two years, it's mind-blowing what has come out about menopause, right?

SPEAKER_03 20:28

Right. Because I heard nothing like this when I was growing up. Nothing.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

And she was like, no, like I don't want to put you on hormones. Your mom died of cancer. So it was still that mentality, right? Like they treat me like like it that is my future. They treat me like that. My future is that I'm gonna get cancer.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

And I said, Well, let's see, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 20:49

Like, thanks.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

I mean, the hot flashes, the like I couldn't function, right? I just couldn't function. So finally I convinced her to put me on hormones and um my friend Dr. Chat, GPT, uh-huh and I would he I turned him into my menopause coach, and I would share my blood work and my things, and everything would show up fairly normal on my blood stuff, but yet things were off enough where it's like, yeah, you're not on enough estrogen, and maybe you should try this and do that. So I go to my doctor and I'm like, here's what I think we need to do. And I that I think we need to do things. She doubled everything.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

You guys, I overdosed on hormones. Oh, yeah. It makes it makes me physically sick when I think of what I felt like. So for two months, I suffered in a way that I was just like, okay, I just have to get over that hump. They're telling me, like, stick with it. I was bleeding a lot. I had already bled before. So I've already had biopsies. I've already had ultrasounds. You know, the texts are saying things to me like, oh, you have so many cysts in there. I we can't even see anything. You know, now I'm like, well, that's something I didn't know before. And I now should I be worried? Should I not be worried? Do I need to look into this? You know, like the list is now growing of things I need to worry about. I um oh I should even just pull up this video right now. I woke up one day and I was starting to have like some skin problems. I woke up one day, I had full acne, like acne 100% all over my face. I broke the skin barrier from all the hormones that were going on, and I I just got off six weeks of antibiotics. Oh it is something that once it happens, I was at the dermatologist yesterday. Once it happens, you deal with it for the rest of your life. So chances are I'll be on antibiotics again. I have anything, I can't even do the things I like. I love the whole routine of being a girl and putting on all the creams and doing all the things. And guess what? The stuff that I have to use now is the most basic, boring. I'm lucky I can even wear makeup. It was so devastating during the holidays to look like that. And I was still on TV, I was still running events. And I remember thinking, like, even though I feel terrible, thank God I do have confidence in myself. Like I've worked on all the things that I try to work with with women, that I could just be like, This, this doesn't matter. This too shall pass. This, you know, this will pass.

SPEAKER_03 23:15

Which is really hard to tell yourself in the moment because when you feel like hell and you're just like, Yeah, no, I I I empathize with you because I went through something pretty similar. I didn't get the rash, I just ended up with like severe panic attacks. That I I had gone too far on the estrogen. And I mean, there was a good like six-month period where it was like off and on, and I would have just weeks of like laying in bed with depression, like depression, where I was like suicidal, like ideologies, like just my hair would be matted to my head, I couldn't shower, I couldn't, I just was just paralyzed by anxiety. And so I I I completely empathize. I know, and it's so freaking rough to like pull yourself back up by the bootstraps and say, You got this girl, when your hair's like it takes you two hours to brush it back out. And before that, I had lost all my hair, right? Like going into perimenopause, like I didn't know that was what was happening to me. So the lack of estrogen increased my inflammation, which turned into an autoimmune disease, sent me into acute liver failure, and like I lost 90 pounds or 80 pounds, excuse me, in just like a three-month period. My muscles atrophied, I was in bed for nine months. It was ridiculous. But yeah, I empathize. So I good for you for pulling yourself.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Yeah, you know, it's interesting you say that. So by the time I had had my IUD taken out and they did my blood work, they're like, You're already in menopause. Like you already show that you're a menopause. So I've been in menopause like longer than I don't even know how long.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

Um, you know, it's been it's been years. I um I gained 30 pounds through menopause. Um, I've always been a curvy girl. And um and it it's okay. I've been able like I can I I always made a joke out of it. Like I would go live all the time. I was the girl that went live on Facebook before any of that even happened. Like when COVID happened, I had no problem. Listen, that was a great year for my business. Because I was like, I'm on every day, what up? Let's talk. Let's do this today. And I mean, I would just, I would just do it, and then now I can't just put something on. I wouldn't even try things on. I would get on and off camera and I would laugh. I'd be like, oh yeah, I'm just gonna show you a part of this because I can't get it on. Now that would probably send me into tears. I can't handle it. I can't, I don't have that, that much, that kind of confidence anymore. So I really have lost my identity and now I'm looking for her again, you know, and and kind of bringing it back.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

Um But the Phoenix always rises from the ashes. It does, it does. And you know, it's you know, your story uh uh yes, and it is horrible. The thing that I take from it also is the fact of we're all trying to figure it out ourselves, yet the same provider, you know, it could be the providers could be like, they're like, we weren't trained this. That's not an excuse anymore. I don't want to hear how you didn't teach that in nurse in medical school. Okay, you didn't get over it. I wasn't taught it in nursing school. I wasn't taught it in just how to be a woman. Like, and we've learned, like we've all opened up books. Yes, you went to the Chad, as we call Chad GPT. We go Chad. But it's like, you know, we all have to do it. And w like we're qualified in being a woman, but I'm not qualified into making decisions that like it took me a struggle to try to get testosterone, and I still don't have it from a provider that I am here. You know, I have to go online. It's sort of like doing a dirty drug deal, I feel like, sometimes, you know, like slide me the hormones. Just slide me the hormone. And I'm like, I was born with that, like naturally. Like, you know, people are like, Oh, we don't give that anymore. Who are you? Like, if I had diabetes, you would give me insulin. Why can't you give me this? So it's like the fight that you have to go, and then you just become exhausted. You know what I mean? Because then you're like, okay, I've just done everything. I've tried to talk for myself and speak up for myself, and now I'm on too much, and now it's recovering from it's like finding that balance is so I commend you. You look absolutely beautiful and amazing and fabulous.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

I washed my hair for this too. Yes, I was like, Oh, I gotta wash my hair.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Yeah, but it's like it's tough to get there. So the fact that you're here and you look like that.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

Yo live seminars, which I've been to recently, like you are very open about it and you like have a very real conversation about it. And you say, like, I'm so sorry, I'm having a hot flash right now. And I I remember I was like, here's some water, because I have been in your shoes and I understand like so much, but I think you just hold a strong presence and you still own that stage. So just own who you are, girl.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

And the thing is, is for me, much like you said, Raquel, when you were just like, like, I'm at home so much that right now I can tell I need to make more of an effort to be out. I need to go be around other women and not just out drinking wine. I need to go to events, I need to do because it gives me hot flashes too, and it's not helping weigh 30 pounds.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

I had to stop drinking, period. So did I. It's annoying, Isha. It is annoying. I now drink something that's like wine but with the alcohol removed. So it's like grape juice. It's grape juice. They still have a bunch of mock tails. Yeah, but it's like not, you know what I mean? I wouldn't have a glass of wine to get drunk. It was a glass of wine, you come home from dinner. Well, there were occasions, but you come home from work and you're like, oh, it just relaxes you. You know what I mean? It was just a thing. And then you realize, oh, that thing is now keeping you up at 3 a.m., not being able to sleep, and the sugars and everything that are in there are now helping your weight gain and your you know abdomen look very round. And it's like, okay, so now you stop doing that. And it's like I'm 50, I'm not four months pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

Yeah, you can get into a place where you're angry about it all, you know. So at the same time, where my face is doing this, and I'm my my little patch. Do you wear an estrogen patch? I do, yeah. Mine was this big. Yeah, I had one that was that big too. Oh my god, like why? When when I opened it up, I was like, what? When they when they doubled my dosage, and I was like, I teach jazz, I own Jazz or size, so I teach Jazzer, and I put on, I'm like, you literally can see the shape of it. I had to show them in class because you can see it through my workout pants. Gosh, my pants. And um, and I did four months of trizepatite shots. Now listen to this. The same time my face is starting to break out, every time I do an injection, I'm like, that's so red. That's so I my litter, my body was literally overdosing on everything. It's screaming. I never lost a single pound. I suffered, and then I felt like a failure in this my life. Like the whole thing where now I'm having to be very strategic about what am I doing? What things am I doing that make me feel good this week? How am I getting out there with other women so that I don't feel alone in this? And when we're leaders, we have to be careful that we go be a part of things where we're not leading, where we're letting some of it come to us because I wind up being the one like, let's do this. Oh, we're doing this. And then that's not filling my cup, it is filling my cup, but not in a way that you need.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

Yeah. And that's okay to say, Isha, it really is.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

My breaking point, I was in San Diego, and this is when I fully like was overdosing on, you know, just freaking out. My face had completely blown up. I just started antibiotics and my knee got all busted up. And so I hired this guy that I've worked with before in San Diego, spent a$3,400 for this guy to work with me. But he's healed me before without surgery and without doing things. So it was a great investment for me. Like I will I will make the investment in my in my body. I go into the bathroom and it's so humid there, and I put this one on my back and I go, potty, and all of a sudden I'm like, did it just fall in the freaking toilet?

SPEAKER_03 31:07

Oh my god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

And I have none with me. I have no more with me. So I panic. The insurance companies want approved for me to get anything there, right? So I am finally like trying to get through this time, and then now I have nothing for a week. I have nothing for a week. It was, and I'm spending all my time while I'm down there on the phone trying to figure this out, trying to get someone to help me. And I'm like, this is ridiculous. So then I came home and cut everything in half. I started breaking everything in half. I went and saw a menopause specialist, and God love them. I appreciate I appreciate. So when I say this, I'm not saying anything bad about anything, but frankly, it pisses me off that I never have to pay three, four hundred dollars a month for someone to coach me through something that is a natural thing that a woman goes through.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

Thank you. You know what? Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 31:56

And I just couldn't sign up with them because it pissed me off too much to have to deal. I'm like, this is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 32:03

Yeah, this is the length that we have to go through. Just to feel normal. Or like somewhat normal. Not even like you don't even know what your baseline normal is anymore, but you just like want to feel kind of like you're there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Because yeah, because it starts so subtly, and you don't realize for me, it was like in the late 40s that I can track, but I never know, right? So I'm like in late 46 and I start having palpitations and GI problems. So then they were like, oh, well, if you go gluten-free and you feel better, just stay gluten-free. And I'm like, okay, now I'm I I'm part Greek. I I eat bread with bread. I eat bread on top of bread. Like, and they were like, Well, you can't have it anymore. I was like, okay, I can't have it anymore. So you get rid of all of that and still nobody go for numerous like halter monitors, blah, blah. And a story I finally go in my 50s. I'm reading my summary when I come out of the doctors. I'm now like 56, because I'm 58 now. And it says, met with post-menopausal woman. And I was like, wait, what? What the hell? Uh that sex, that poor cashier. I was like, it says, what? This hold on. I was so menopausal woman. I was like, nobody. I'm like, what happened to Perry? Meno? Where, you know, and then you find out, like going through my research, because the providers were younger, you know, they don't have they don't want to ask the awkward questions like, is your are you having painful sex? Is your no, they're not going to ask you that. They ask, you know, is there anything you want to talk about? Well, not really, because I don't know What the hell do I talk about?

SPEAKER_03 33:39

My hair's falling out of my life. I don't feel myself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

I'm like, you would say, like, I don't feel myself. I'm, you know, gaining weight. Oh, stress.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Okay, I'm getting nervous going to work. Oh, it's just anxiety. And I'm like, okay. So you leave, and I was like, I'm a stress-filled and anxious person now, all of a sudden. And nobody's going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_03 33:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

You know, and yeah. And you don't know what happened. I'm normally calm and like, yeah, whatever. And now you're like, and nobody, nobody tells you. And you do see all those other companies that you can pay more. And it's like, if there was just some, some way to learn what was happening from the start of it, instead of trying to play catch up. Because now I'm trying to get the hormones that I've been battling, that I've been losing for the last 10 years. Now it's like a battle. Now I'm like in that race, you know, that dream that you have work all the time.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

And anytime you feel off, you're like, oh God, am I spinning backwards?

SPEAKER_03 34:35

Yes. Am I going backwards? Yes. That's why we created Menu Pals so that we could train the leadership and HR specialists to tell help women in that environment at work. And then we offer vetted resources that does that doesn't come out of their pocket. You know what I mean? Like this is vetted resources that we know is not just TikTok information or Google searches. Like we know this is real information because it's exactly to your point. Like, who the hell wants to pay three, four hundred dollars to somebody just to say, like, bucket up, buttercup?

SPEAKER_00 35:03

Seriously. You know what's interesting is you were saying that, Mark. You were I was thinking about when I had my IUD taken out, and she was like, Yeah, you're in menopause. And she says, Well, you're an atrophy. And I'm like, Yeah, there you go. I hate that word. I absolutely hate that word.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

Oh my god, what do you mean geriatric pregnancy?

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Knock that word off. And she's like, Your vagina is an atrophy. And I'm like, What in the hell are you talking about? Yeah. And she goes, She goes, Your women in menopause, your pretty pink pillows aren't pretty pink pillows anymore. They go into atrophy. And I'm like, who the book says that? Oh, let's use that word. I'm like, come on. Like the whole thing needs to be rewritten. So it doesn't feel so shameful, damn it. Right.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Atrophy. I I agree. I hate that. That word messed me up.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

Like the necklaces that say, I'm an atrophy. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Just said, like, just have, oh, so it's like a desert down there. Thank you so much. I now have a cactus growing instead of a nice little yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

I don't know what to do. The sun is following me. I don't even know what's happening. I'm or I'm glowing. I don't know. Um, my doctor, I have to share this with you guys real quick. And then I really have to share like what do we what do we do as far as our style? But when I was um 17, my first gynecologist, his name was Dr. Honeycutt. Have you ever heard of him?

SPEAKER_03 36:30

Yeah, he delivered me.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Oh my God. He was he was the dirtiest old man. He was such a pervert. He had my mom liked him. Loved ones. He married like five of his patients, right? And he would come in and he would get so close to me. And I'm like, you better not kiss me.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

That was here, right? God damn. Huh? That was here, right? Here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

He passed away, I don't know, probably that is hysterical.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

He literally delivered me and my sister.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

So he oh my god. So he delivered my son and I loved him. And the nurses left when I came in because they're like he would get in trouble and he'd have to have a nurse in the room because he would say too much. And I would literally like I would dish it out. I would be in there, like, don't you dare kiss me. And he would crack me up, and I'm it would be my goal, like, can I make him blush today? And I could. I could. I could. And I'll never forget, like, once I was going through all this, way back when I was single. Okay, I went through a divorce, and and he's down there. I'm like, okay, doc, like, how's it all looking? And he goes, You're perfectly healthy. And I'm like, no, like, how's it looking? I never thought anybody else was gonna see this. Like, I need how's it look? And I remember him moving across the room and like, like, I made him blush. And he's like, let me just tell you about you. And he told me about me. And I was like, Oh, wow. And he goes, Well, enjoy it now. He goes, because you know what? All you women think you have too much going on. And he goes, as men get older, they start doing this. And as women get older, it all starts doing this. He goes, Someday you won't have to worry about this. And I had no idea what he was. I was like, that is the weirdest thing anybody's ever said to me now. But it's true. That part I didn't mind too much. Attaching atrophy to it. I don't like that so much.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

No, I'm I'm not there for anymore. First of all, I don't know what happens to your GYN people out there. Raquel told me the first, the very first um podcast I did with her, she told me how her GYN got um arrested for prostitution.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

Yes. Right. He did. Because Reno. Yes, it's Reno. So you thought Reno. Well, my periods came back after I started healing a little bit, after I found out it was celiac disease that was the issue that had made me go into acute liver failure. My periods came back with vengeance. So I was like, I can't even leave the house. Like I needed, so I went into the G U N and they're like, okay, well, let's do an ablasion. Still at 46, not a soul is saying, Hey girl, you might be in perimenopause, right?

SPEAKER_02 39:08

They'll use atrophy before they'll use menopause. They throw atrophy along.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

You know, like meanwhile, he's been down there. And then the news breaks. And I'm like, oh hell no, I'm done. I'm done. Like, y'all misdiagnosed me with like liver failure, told me I was an alcoholic, told me I was just gonna die of like writing goodbye letters to my children. And and then I suffered for nine months, and now you want to go and get arrested for prostitution. I think I'm good. I think I'll just dick myself to death.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

I I love it. I I just think something is, yeah. I mean it's yeah. Either way. We just live we know how to live around here. We obviously I just think, but I mean, they're horrific. And it the thing like is why we did start menopause to help women in the workplace because we figured how can we get like there's so many, like the three of us, there's like three million and so on and so forth that don't say anything though. Do you know what I mean? That they're suffering, they're they're not saying anything, and they're just listening to the doc say, oh, okay, well, I don't need to get any hormones, okay, or whatever. And it's like you realize we need to be a sisterhood of like we said one time that we were menopausal godmothers, fairy godmothers.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

Because you you do sort of have to like help the others because you know, if not, you're you're like left out on an island. And yeah, that that's you know, your story, Raquel's story. It's like it's traumatizing. And the fact that you guys got through what you did, it is it detriments it. Like it's just such a great thing, and kudos to both of you because it's shows how strong women are, which is why I always say we have the babies. Could you imagine? No, that's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

No, and the fastest way to reach women was going to work, you know, because we're either at home or that's where they all are. So for us, it was like, let's help all the masses because everybody needs to know.

SPEAKER_00 41:09

Well, and I love what you guys are doing because it is so important. And I think you know, so many people think they don't have resources if it's outside of work. So it really is important for companies to utilize. Like I told you, I go in and help you. I'm like, you want your team to feel more powerful and successful. Guess what? It's in what they look like. 100%. You know, they can have all the skills in the world, but if they don't feel confident what they're putting on or they're not dressed for the part, they're not gonna make that sale or that connection. It is much more important than, and it's about having respect for yourself, right?

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:43

So it's so incredible what you guys are doing too. Where I think, you know, the next layer is workplaces need to understand you need to support your people through it, and it's gonna benefit your business, and you're gonna be more successful when your your people understand hormones and what's happening. Even men for men to learn a little bit, like yes, we actually have men modules on our infrastructure. Yes, a thousand percent. But even with style, you know, we all have such this different thing. So here is really where I'm at is like, what can we control? Yes. All right, we can control, we may not be able to control exactly how we feel about the way we look, but we can make some changes in um the the resources that we have for ourselves. And spending, you know, it takes a little bit more time now, right? It's not like watch your closet and go, oh, I can pull out any of these dresses and feel amazing. It's not that it's like, no, how am I to? And sometimes I put something on, I'm like, what? I didn't even know I was this big or that I need to wait there. I did my measurements this morning because I'm doing this cool new thing actually through my health insurance, and I was like, what? My hips are bigger than any like bit. Like, I'm like, this is odd. I've never show up like like to see you in person, it doesn't translate.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

I know we in our heads we I know, all right. In our heads we think that, but I'm telling you, like it doesn't translate. Like from my my lens, I don't see that. Like I think that you look amazing and that you you have a very like commanding presence, and it's like I think that's amazing, right? I'm not gonna say executive presence because I think that that's just a way to like poo-poo women in the workplace, but like you have a very present presence, and I think that's amazing. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 43:25

But I really think so. Again, we can't control everything going on with our hormones, right? And even if you do get somebody helping you and you're figuring out, it takes time. It's not just, oh, I'm gonna put this patch on, I'm gonna feel better overnight. That's not how it is, right? Now it's time to figure it out. But you can control going into your closet and spending a day going through it and really determining what works for you and what doesn't, and removing things that make you feel bad. You know, when I first started styling people, I don't like I love jeans on other people. I rarely wear jeans. I've never I never liked them on my body. My skinny, I take that back. At my very skinniest, which it was divorce, and I had my gallbladder out, and I was so skinny. It was probably the only time I liked wearing jeans. And they were like a size 27, and I had never been that small in my life. I was like, just leave the tags on. Leave them on so the world can see.

SPEAKER_03 44:18

And um writing on the back 27.

unknown 44:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

But I had a whole section in my closet because I hang everything. And I mean, it was like the whole bottom row, and it was all these jeans that were expensive for my store. And this is when the bling jeans were in, and stores had gifted me jeans, and I had all these jeans. And I walked in one day and I was like, Why do I have all this in here? Right. And I tried them all on. So there's probably 35, 40 pairs of jeans. How many pairs do you think actually fit me? One pair. I removed all of those. Do you know that was 34 pairs of jeans telling me you're fat, you can't fit into these, your body sucks subconsciously every single time I walked in there, whether I knew it or not. As soon as I removed them, it was like losing 10 pounds. As soon as I removed them. Looking through and being like, you know, why this shape used to look good on me. Why doesn't it look good anymore? What do I need to do? Like, what's the my waist has changed. So how do I change how I'm wearing things to make myself feel good? That's really why I created the confidence style method is to walk people through the steps and the stages of here's the steps to make you feel good. Here's the way um to do it all and take time doing it and make it a good thing, right? So I always say, like, you know, wake up. So say you're gonna go through your closet. Okay. First, get ready. Don't just do it rolling out of bed, looking like shit with makeup on, last night's makeup, and your hair up being bad. Actually, get ready so that you like the way you look. And that doesn't mean you have to fully get ready, but at least make a little bit of effort, right? Have your teeth brushed, all that, and make it a day. Put on nice music that you like to have. Open the windows, maybe pour yourself a mimosa or what, or four or five, or however many you need. Whatever it takes. And just go through each piece and look at it. Make it instead of it being like, oh God, I gotta clean out my closet, make it be like, okay, what's in there that I don't know? Like what discovery? What are we playing today? And you'd be so surprised at how many things you'll find that you can wear in new ways. And also be like, you know, I never even liked that before. So why am I keeping it in here? I can't wear it now. Like, why am I doing this to myself? It's really an interesting thing when you change the way you approach it and make it more of an experience. It makes it more fun to get it out of there. But I honestly believe you should only have in your closet what you can wear right now.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Everything else should be out. Seasonal stuff, things you can't fit in. You can have a skinny box and a fat box in the garage with things, but you should only have in there what you can wear right now. You definitely don't want to see that closet. Your closet is an intimate, um, beautiful space. I mean, you're everything you do for your body is in that space. That's true. So just a little bit of time, and when you take everything out and you clean it and you make it pretty, it's so easy to turn your own closet, make it look like a cute little boutique. I have all the tips and tricks for that. Then it becomes a place where you look forward to going to. Just walking into your favorite store where you walk.

SPEAKER_02 47:21

It's a mindset. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

And you might be like, okay, I still don't know what I'm gonna wear today, but at least you open and it's it's not chaos. It's not a bunch of things screaming at you that you're fat and you can't wear this anymore, and you're old, and those things instead, it's things where you have choices, you have choices, choices that you need to make, yeah, that are your choices, right?

SPEAKER_03 47:44

So it's so powerful.

SPEAKER_00 47:46

Yeah, and I do, but I do think, especially as we're into this time, it is a time. So women statistically completely change their wardrobes eight to ten times in their lives. And when you think about this, so you're a baby, then you're a little girl, then you get into teenage, right? And then you're college age, and then you become a young woman or a mom, right? Now we have five there. Then you start getting into like, okay, now I'm in my career.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

Now my careers may be changed a little bit. I started my own business. I don't need to wear the same things I wore before. Now I'm in menopause. Okay, so it's like it is normal for this to happen. You're not the same person you were before. So, and that doesn't mean you have to buy all new things, but it that's when you do look. What have I always worn? What are the shapes that I've always worn that I always like? And strategically figuring out how do I add more of that that makes me feel good. Um, and enclosed cognition. Enclosed cognition, do you know what that is? Yeah, it it is okay. So there was a study done, I think it was at Stanford, and they had like 300 people and they put them all in white coats, like white uh coats.

SPEAKER_03 48:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

They told half of them you're doctors. I have heard about this. Yes. I think I think I said this at one of the things, yes. Half of them were painters and they gave them tasks. Which team which group do you think performed better at everything they did?

SPEAKER_01 49:14

The doctors.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Doctors, because they were told they were something more powerful. That jacket to them meant something different than to this group putting it. So if you're somebody who loves to put on a blazer and you put it on, all of a sudden it makes you sit up taller, stand up taller. Guess what? You should have more of those. You should find some casual ones that you can wear with a t-shirt. You should have more of that because it brings you power. Same thing with exercise clothes. If you put on a cute outfit to go work out, you're gonna have a better workout than if you just feel like sloppy, baggy t-shirt and and pants. So it is really powerful and much deeper. And when people use the word style and fashion, they're like, I'm not stylish, I'm not fashion, fashionable. That isn't what it's about. It's about understanding your personal, how you personally want to represent yourself to the world, to yourself when you look in the mirror. What do you want to feel? Right? What kind of inspiration do you want from other people? So it really is deeply powerful. And like I said, through this time, we need to also be gracious to ourselves of like this is a this is normal. This is normal. Menopause is not so normal and all of a sudden. But transitioning in what your what your wardrobe should look like is 100% normal. So embrace it, do the steps that you need to do, and then guess what? It's one less thing you have to think about. Then you can focus on your hormones.

SPEAKER_02 50:32

That is so true. You know, but when you mention about little girl, I think that's I think we have to sort of channel our inner little girl, right? Because a good girlfriend of mine, her daughter just celebrated her seventh birthday, and she had a picture and it just happens to be on St. Patty's Day. And she's in like a little tutu. She's like, you know, does it match? Maybe does, maybe it's she, you could feel the energy coming from that picture, right? And if you look at yourself going back, you'll see like you're, you know, I I love when I see kids in still the Halloween costumes and it's July, you know? Like it's like, but they get their, like they wear whatever they pick out, whether they match or not, but it's how they feel, right? And that's exactly what you have to be able to do again of how you feel. Pick what a little bit of everything, if it's a blazer, if it's whatever, it's not what you should wear. Or, you know, I take that should out of my um vocabulary because when you say should, you're guilting yourself into doing something. Oh, I should get back into those jeans. Well, you're not going to, girl, but you should, you know, and then you make yourself feel bad. And it's like, yeah. So you just pick, go into your closet, like you said, and you make it what it is, and you can pick anything out of anywhere and feel confident. And that comes out as beauty, in my opinion, too.

SPEAKER_00 51:57

Absolutely. Absolutely. I love it. So, real quick, I just want to tell you here's something really simple and easy. And Raquel, I think you've heard this before, but here are three steps to feeling confident. And okay, they're super easy. There are things you can do every day. Best time to do it is when you first wake up in the morning. But honestly, you could stop at any point in your day and do this. But the first thing when you wake up and you're laying in bed and you're just like, Okay, here's my day. What am I gonna wear? Oh my god, smile. Just put a big old smile on your face. Have you tried this rook out?

SPEAKER_03 52:26

I have, I have actually.

SPEAKER_00 52:28

You lay there and you smile, like smile, smile.

SPEAKER_03 52:31

And your cheeks start hurting.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Start giggling at yourself of like, okay, this is ridiculous. But all of a sudden you feel lighter. You feel the weight come off of you, and you're like, All right, okay, I'm ready to get out of bed. Let's go. And then you're gonna walk to the mirror and you're gonna say something nice to yourself. Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

And then you might look in the mirror and be like, oh girl, what the heck did you the hardest part about that is looking yourself in the eyeball when you're saying it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

But when you do that and you talk to yourself the way you would talk to somebody you love, your daughter, your best friend, your mom, and your partner, anybody, and just say, you know what, you got this today. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:08

You know what? It doesn't matter if you're 30 pounds up. Your voice is going to be more powerful than it looks today. You say something nice to yourself every single day. Guess what? You've woken up, you put a smile on your face, you had a little giggle with yourself. Now you've said something nice to yourself. Now you're like, all right, it's coffee time. You're feeling better, right? You're not, you don't have every voice going in. And then three, and this is the hardest one for women. Don't wear anything you don't like.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

That is reservation.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

It seems easy, right? It sounds easy, right? But we tend to go in and just give, surrender, and put on the same freaking thing that we always put on, and we know it looks bad, and we know we don't feel confident in it, and we do it anyway. That's why it's important to get it out because when it's gone, guess what? You can't. You can't wear it anymore. And then you realize how often you did that. But those three things, those are the three steps to confidence. And I'm telling you, if you can turn those into a true practice, it is amazing how that will just change everything for you. Yeah. And just set yourself up. Just set yourself up to have a better.

SPEAKER_03 54:13

Well, my last lectur the last lecture you did, you talked about layers. And so now I have a hundred percent been looking at layers and how to do that with just the things I do have in my closet. So I I love the tips and tricks because they are so helpful, change my mindset going forward.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

I love that. I think so. I think every woman too will um will benefit by this. I think it is totally inspiring. I loved, I can't even believe it at like an hour almost has gone by because it has just been truly amazing. And by that I mean we may have to have you on again and we'll just have some other tips. Yes, we would love that. Because I I would love that. And I and I believe that once women listen to this, they will, because these are the easiest things. Three things. I mean, you're not telling me to eat my body weight and protein and fiber, right? I know, and one more person, right? But we're still fiber. And the difference between, yeah, you're not it how easy. It's just basically just be nice to yourself, be gracious, and love the fact that A, you woke up on this side of the daisies, you know, and smile and be happy.

SPEAKER_00 55:24

And where you're the one person you're you're stuck with forever, like it or not. So you better be real nice to her. She better be the person you are the nicest to because you're better at everything in life when you're nice to her.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

I oh my god, Isha, I absolutely love that. I can't thank you enough. I I know our um listeners will love it, and I just wanted to have you give out your a confidence style method um shout out again, because I think that is something that any woman could truly benefit by. And I have how do you find it? How do you find it?

SPEAKER_00 55:59

If you just go to ishacasagrande.com, everything is there, and you'll see there's lots of different things because there is shopping there, there is blogs on there, there's lots of resources. Um, even following on social media, ishacasa grande. That's just the tag for everything because no one else has that name. So that's right. Um, but you know, just taking a look around because there are some other things that you can do if you're not ready to jump into that big of a program. But I'm just really here for women. Uh my passion is just boy, when you see a woman who feels good about herself, it does not matter what she's wearing.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

Yeah, it doesn't matter what size she is. No, you just see the light. You just see the light.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

And guess what? Everybody starts lighting up around her. That's what I want to see in this world.

SPEAKER_02 56:45

Me too. That is amazing. Yes, that is amazing, girls. I am I will put this down in the show notes so that everybody can check it out. And I know I will be checking it out. I am and I will be checking out my closet without you at this point because um I have to get rid of a couple of things. But um, right.

SPEAKER_03 57:04

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SPEAKER_02 57:42

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SPEAKER_00 58:09

Thank you guys for all you do too. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Oh, I thank you. Thank you. And like we always like to say at the N Raquel, we will see you next Tuesday next Tuesday.