Fit For What?
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Fit For What?
Ep 28. Nightclubs, AI & fibremaxxing
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In this episode, Laura and Sarah share their candid reflections on the ups and downs of health, fitness, and mental wellbeing amid busy weekly lives. From dealing with hormonal changes to embracing AI, and redefining social norms around alcohol and nightclubbing, they offer practical advice and honest stories to inspire listeners to prioritise self-care amid chaos.
Chapters:
00:00 - Welcome and weekly reflections: mental health, fitness, and personal updates
02:21 - Body image and red flags: dealing with spots and bruises from Jiu-Jitsu
04:24 - The mental effects of training consistency and performance dips
08:40 - Strategies for motivation: committing to workouts despite sluggish days
11:09 - The influence of identity on training performance and self-perception
14:16 - How stress affects heart rate and the importance of recovery
16:38 - Celebrating exam success and embracing new career paths
18:33 - The shifting culture around alcohol: abstinence, social scenes, and new social norms
21:19 - The rise of women-led wellness innovations and tech
23:20 - Perimenopause tracking and women's health insights with data tools
26:30 - The evolving supplement market: creatine, greens, and gut health trends
28:19 - Concerns about AI: skepticism, limitations, and personal boundaries
30:46 - AI in everyday life: when it helps and where it falls short
34:49 - Future visions: remote work, digital entertainment, and the culture of streaming
37:14 - Social environments: from nightclubs to gym events and the impact on relationships
50:28 - Trends in social meetups: from alcohol-fueled scenes to activity-based connections
60:03 - Practical tips for fiber-rich diets and gut health support
67:01 - Celebrating new family life and personal milestones
68:44 - Wrap-up, gratitude, and encouragement to listeners
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Hello and welcome back to Fit for What, a no-nonsense evidence-based take on health, fitness and wellness with humour, honesty, and practical advice to help you build your fittest year yet. My lame my lame? It's probably about a good summary of this week. My lame. My lame is Laura. And my name, um, yeah, my name is Laura. I don't know what I'm talking about. If I'm honest, it's been quite the week. Um, I don't really know if I'm coming or going, but we're gonna do our best to get through uh this week's podcast. Um, I am a personal trainer, I have written a book, I have done some other things in the world, um, and mainly I'm passionate about fitness and gym, and I don't know if I've mentioned it, but I do jujitsu.
SPEAKER_00Hello, and my name is Sarah. I'm a women's health coach PT, and yeah, it's been a week. It's been a week. I'm I'm proud of us for being here, you know. We've turned up, our teeth look great.
SPEAKER_02They do.
SPEAKER_00Our hair is looking quite good. We're looking quite present. Your hair looks good. Well, no, I came onto the call with law. I had I've really obsessed with heatless curls, and I literally bought that. It's like a foam fair. Obviously, I'm aware this is again an audio podcast on enough, but it's literally a foam sausage, is the only thing I could describe it as that you clip into the middle of your head and then you you kind of weave it around and tight. I've just started doing it every time I wash my hair because I try not to put heat on it at the moment, and it just makes my hair look a bit nicer. So I love it. That's great. Babe, it was just I think it's a Primarni special, literally like £1.50, but it does the job, does the job, and I'm just trying to make more of an effort with my appearance at the moment. Not that anyone asks, but when I'm feeling a bit a bit, you know, a bit a bit meh. It actually, when I do my hair nicely, it does just lift the vibes. 100%.
SPEAKER_01I fully aligned to that, and I've we're we're hair and teeth girlies at the moment. Um, what I will say so my hair is looking fresh, my teeth also fresh, but what isn't fresh and which is new for me and is a a real red person a personal red flag is I have got a spot.
SPEAKER_00Oh, don't start me with this again.
SPEAKER_01No, I have. It's fucking massive. You know, I when I was younger, I would used to describe this in sort of my teenage skin as like a uh a dormant volcano under the skin. Oh, it's sort of you can't really see it, but I can feel something is going on, and I'm not like I'm I'm a big girl now.
SPEAKER_00Why have I got this spot? No, that's not kind. That is not kind. Have you got any of the pimple patches? I love those. So I was talking to my friend about this.
SPEAKER_01Um, I actually really like the pimple patches because if you have if you have skin that is troublesome in in that shape or form and you are self-conscious about it, then I think it's a lovely way to say, hey, I've got a spot, but I'm covering it up and I'm trying to help it. Like I wish these were around in my time when I was a teen. Because yeah, when when I was uh that age, it was called like medicated skincare, and it sounded very harsh. Oh, really?
SPEAKER_00I was the I was the like generation of um do you remember those like black nose strips that you'd put on your nose and then you'd rip off when they were rocking? Yes, uh yes, the nose pour charcoal nose strips. And I think I did it once, and I actually think I cried and never did them again because but I remember watching Princess Diaries. Have you ever seen Princess Diaries? This is really revealing. No. Oh I don't know what that is. Oh my word. Is it a Disney film? It's a Disney film, but it's iconic. There's Princess Diaries 1, Princess Diaries 2. I think there's now Princess Diaries 4, even. Oh god. Anne Hathaway, like at her finest. It is absolute film gold. It's literally my childhood, and there's two scenes that I will I love forever. One is when she goes into a walk-in wardrobe that they've designed for her in her new palace in Genovia. The other scene is when this guy comes in and he's like, I love you, and she pulls off this no strip and she's like and it just lives rent through in my head quite a lot, actually. So that was my insight for you. But how has your week been otherwise?
SPEAKER_01Well, do you know what? I feel today, as we were approaching uh this podcast recorder, we do every most Friday evenings, to be honest. I can't lie, I text Sarah, I said, I don't know what I'm talking about. And she said, What it for the podcast in life? And I thought, yeah, in life, it's just been I've had I've had quite the week um in in many ways. Um I've had some wonderful news, I've had some wonderful personal family news uh this week, um, which is is one to be celebrated and shared at a later date. Um I just I don't know where this week's gone. I've definitely spent a lot of time working. Yes, I have got to jujitsu um a few times. Um I have got a lot of bruises still.
SPEAKER_00Your arm as you raised your arm earlier. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, my triceps look like honestly, I look like a Dalmatian. You look like a little leopard. Yeah, my so my friend who used to do weight or still does do weightlifting, she messaged me and she was like, Oh, I'm gonna start. She's out, lives out of London, Midlands. She's like, Oh, I'm gonna start jujitsu. I think it's really cool and I've love watching your journey, blah blah blah. I'm gonna start anyway. She's like messaged me. She's like, What the hell? Apparently, so one of um the coaches at my jujitsu gym, a lovely man, Stuart Cooper, he noticed um myself and my friend who I roll with a lot, Allegra, he noticed that she's more bruised than me. And he was like, he was like, just so you know, like it it'll go, like it just takes a bit of time and your body will get used to it. And I was thinking, when when will that day come, Stuart? Because he was like, Well, I've been doing it for 19 years, but he also often says he wakes up in the morning and can't feel one arm, so I don't think we listen really to Stuart, he's a lovely man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't think he's really selling it to me further. That's interesting. I was just thinking, I don't understand the science behind you then stop bruising. So I feel like there are people in the in the world that just bruise like peaches, and then some people just don't, but yeah, you've bruised like a little peach. You look like a little peach.
SPEAKER_01I do, but I still really weirdly love it. Um, and I'm having a nice time with it. However, what I will say, and I'll be honest about this, I've told one of my uh a friend about this. So I went and tried to do some strength training um at a gym this week. I actually visited the new third space Chelsea gym. Um I was yeah grateful for them to um allow me to run riot for it for a little bit uh this week. Really lovely space. So I got myself into a rack. Um, I thought, do you know what I'll do some uh push press? Um so I thought, right, got the bar out, did a few strict press, thought Jesus Christ, that feels heavy. Had a little look around the bar, I thought, is that a 20? No, it's a 15 kilo, brilliant, feels really heavy, and I was like, just started to add a little bit of weight, and I was like, goodness me, this feels and I I took it very, very badly, and I think and I messaged my other friend, and then I and then I thought, what would I tell a client? What would I tell someone I care about? Well, you've not actually done any meaningful strength training in uh the best part of six months. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's just tough to take when things just feel and we know how this works, and we've talked about this a lot, but I've just got to say it out loud that if you are someone who is training and you feel like you know what, I'm not don't feel at my best, just keep going, just keep going because you'll get there, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so I mean I we have we I mean we both have it like there's some sessions, like yes, I overmessed Laura. I was like, I feel fucking fantastic today. I feel and I felt amazing, and then today it did take me for 20 minutes to get into it. Like I felt really, really sluggish to start with. But I don't I don't know if I've actually spoken about this rule before. I've I don't know if I've even spoken to you about this, Laura. When when I'm feeling really, really like I don't want to train, I will go in still. I make the equipment that I'll still go in, but I set a 15-minute timer on my phone so that at the end of that 15 minutes, I still feel like okay, I don't want to be here, I'll leave. Otherwise, I normally I mean, I think maybe I've left once, twice in like three years doing that. Like, I just do think that actually a lot of strength sessions generally start off you feel pretty slow, you feel pretty sluggish. Plit it plenty sluggish. My word, my mouth isn't working today. Um, but yeah, it's it happens. Not all strength sessions, not all sessions are great, and it it's part of being a human being. So, and I also think with you, with love, I think because what you've what you're known for in the industry is strength training, and I think it's so closely linked to your identity. I think because you feel like you're not performing at the highest level you have in terms of that, that's maybe why it's impacting you more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. So I'll tell you another story about when I went to third space Chelsea this week. Um, I saw a chap there that I know, he's a group X uh coach, he's a really nice bloke, he's been in the industry many years. Um, we've come across each other in various environments anyway. I've gone, he's on the bike, I've gone to go and select a kettlebell. Yes. I was just gonna superset my push press, my strict press, my push press. Was supposed to be strict press, but turned into push press. Um I went, I thought I'll do some some lower body, so I'll I'll do some goblet squats, just do some nice tempo just to superset, keep yourself moving. Yeah, it wasn't really, it was a whatever. Anyway, I selected the 16 kilo kettlebell, yeah, and he came up behind me and it meant this was wonderful intention, but he went, I won't do his accent. I think he's uh from I think he's Kiwi. Anyway, I won't do his accent. He was like, that's a bit light for you, isn't it? And I went, oh and I automatically felt like I had to say, What do we what do I what do I say to that? So I was just I just sort of I I actually just think I just went, Oh yeah, probably just one of those days. But you it's so mad, isn't it? When you when you identify or your identity, as you said, I do agree with you. Yeah, I hopefully I've got enough uh self-awareness to to to to to know that. But when you yeah, your identity is it's like people still message me now on Instagram, go, have you quit weightlifting? I'm like, Yes, yeah, seven, seven months ago, actually, yeah, August last year, so even more than that. Jesus knows what I can't do any maths. It's you can tell it's uh at the end of the week, but yeah, it's loads of time. I haven't done it. I can't even imagine you know doing a barbell snatch. I'm sure it'll it'll it'll come back to me, but yeah, it's it's definitely my identity around it. But the good news is I've still got massive arms and massive shoulders and quite a big back.
SPEAKER_00No, you have you have I was saying that to her when she was walking, she Laura has a very distinctive walk, as do I, and I think you always walk like it. I I don't know what is it. You walk you walk you walk with your shoulders, you really roll with your shoulders, but I was it's because they're so wide. I'm saying what can I do? Maintain like you've retained so much muscle mass still. Um, so yeah, but I know what it's like. I think when you get in your own head about something like that, I totally understand that. And I mean, yeah, I've had I even me, I mean, I'm not I'm not exactly known for having big arm as myself, but she's no she's known for doing a really diabolical flex. Sarah Twig's more like, but I mean I felt even because I feel like I've not been doing the kind of more excessive bodybuilding work recently, I can feel like my arms have deflated a bit, and even I get into my own head about it, and it's just like it really doesn't matter, like just train how you want to. And we have these phases of our lives where we're spending more time doing one thing over the other. We can't expect to be tip top on everything all the time. It is literally physically and mentally impossible. So I hear you, babe, but I'm glad that you're you're loving BJJ. What else should we do?
SPEAKER_01And well, yeah, I actually so this morning, um, being this Friday morning, I went to uh my gym bestie, um Ben. He was coaching a conditioning class at the Foundry Wandsworth. Uh so I went there this morning and he played a supreme playlist of pure German bass. Oh, it was his playlist, and if you know, there's a song called German Bass Father. I think I've spoken about it before on the pod. That came on. He went skip. It was just it was wonderful because I I got involved with the members there. It was a good just a good sweats, just some ergs. Um, and I just don't really feel like I my body or I have wanted to involve myself in any form of intensity for quite a while now, and I I do acknowledge it. Um I think my top-end fitness is certainly not where it was, but then I think about it and I'm like, well, I would spent the entire year building up to run the marathon and I'm exhausted. Um, so it's no wonder. But like I I did I did uh kick myself g give myself a kick up the bum. I did run 18k on the weekend. So so so still still yeah, but it was definitely slower, it felt a bit more fatigued. My heart rate was a bit high. My resting heart rate this week. I just got an email from that my I got an email from my ultra human ring saying your resting heart rate has gone up eight percent in the last week. Whoa. Um which I've I've definitely noticed. It's in like the mid-50s, which is just not me at all. Yeah, um, it's it sort of sits around 4748, and I know why, yeah. I know why I have um been experiencing uh additional stress um for a few things to be honest, and it just goes to show like we can't, you know, as much as we can you know put lavender in the bath and put a candle on and have some lime's main magnesium, you can't outrun your life stress. 100%.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I was thinking I was thinking about that. Yes, I did a little post actually on Instagram about it, and I was just thinking that I literally think when I was training, I it's funny, I actually find when I'm training my brain really focuses, and I can actually I get a real kind of sense of clarity around some of my thought patterns, but I was really thinking about it, not even just in the fitness industry or the wellness industry, but I think any well, I think in most industries anyway, the idea of burnout is the fact that you can't, we can do all we want, we can try and optimise our health as much as possible, but you literally cannot outrun a lack of energy. Like if you're feeling depleted, you have to rest, you have to sleep. There's only so much you can do to kind of plaster over the cracks before you have to deal with the fundamentals, which is sleep, good nutrition, and relaxation, which I think we just don't really make enough time for sometimes. So, um yeah, no, I hear you, love, I hear you, and I think obviously you'll have a nice restful weekend. I feel this time this week has gone so quick. I I had a big win, I passed with 90%, may I add, my first part of my exams, which I'm buzzing about. I I think you can probably sense just a lightness in me, like I feel like whatever.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I just knew yesterday that I trained amazing. I'm like, yeah, because yeah, you're like, thank God that's done.
SPEAKER_00And I think because I care so much about, and I think also, as much as I I didn't have anything to prove, I think part of me was like leaving the job last year was a massive, a massive risk in some ways because I did have it really, really good there. And I think I knew I trusted myself and I bat myself, but I think there's an element of risk of stepping away from the PT world, which I know so well, into this kind of health of health and wellness and more holistic and hormonal space felt a little bit risky, and I think there was a few kind of naysayers to it, but I was like, fuck yeah, like I smashed that exam, I know this, and I'm so fiercely passionate about it, and I think it's really proven to me that because I care so much, I am gonna really make a success of this. So, yeah, it just felt really, really good, good vibes, and yeah, this week just been busy with work and studying and trying to trying to buy a property which is just like exciting, but also a lot, a lot of stuff to think about as well. So, yeah, my brain's busy, but I'm looking forward to having a weekend with one of my besties out of London. But yeah, good vibes otherwise.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I think also like we had obviously we had this conversation this week, and we were celebrating you know your sort of success, you know, in this sort of next stage of your uh accomplishments with uh you know this new path for you in something that's really a passion area. And whilst I think we're surrounded by so much conversation, of most people I know are like, I'm having a tough time, I'm not enjoying my work, everything you know, of another friend of mine told me that there's lots of redundancies happening. It's like it's constant, and it's like does the does the fear, you know, the fear of wondering, you know, what if what if I can't, you know, if I leave this and I can't get work? I just think it it it keeps people playing small, and I understand and I would say part of me I can relate to a little. The amount of times people say to me, Why don't you just go and be full-time influencer? I don't want to. I really don't want to. And I I it would be so lonely and dull to just be me, hey guys, you know, obviously it wouldn't be like that all the time, and there's some there could be some purpose to it in in sort of helping facilitate learning and education in the world of training, but I just I don't know anyone who's having a really good time work-wise at the moment, and I think it is really easy to get lost and bogged down and think that you know woe woe is me. And I I sort of when I have some sort of clarity, and and I for me it is when I'm it's probably after jujitsu or like you said, after training. You then get this perspective again and think, well, god, how lucky am I to have this opportunity or have this financial stability to enable me to and if I do want to change, well that's on me. Yeah, I say this a lot, no one is coming to save us, you know. We we really have to, and I say, you know, my husband is not coming to knock on my door and and and take me out from you know from me eating uh my Marks and Spencer's apple crumble on the sofa uh again, which I really which is really attractive. I can't understand why no one's no one's come to collect me yet. But yeah, it's I I just really believe in if you want to change, if you want to do something, you've got to, and you've got to push past the fear, the like you say, the naysayers. You can't listen to anything really anyone else tells you. Um I had something work-wise that I was preparing for this week, and I I was like said to someone close to me, I said, Oh, can I send it, can I send it to you just to see what you think? And they were like, Don't send it to me, just go and deliver it and tell me about it after. And I was like, Okay, why? And they were like, Because whatever I say will be a distraction. You know exactly what you want and what you need to say. I trust that you will do an amazing job. So sometimes we don't need lots of opinions, sometimes we know the answer, yeah, and maybe maybe the answer is do the hard things and and make big decisions, and yes, you know, everything mostly comes down to financial, you know, challenge and stability. But yeah, I I think um yeah, you've got a lot to a lot to celebrate for yourself uh this week. And obviously the exam is sort of the the the tick, but I think it's it's bigger than that for you. It it's the focus on you know, I you know what you want to do, you know what you want to deliver, um and and also obviously you you've done the work to do it, but yeah, it's it's and I know that you know that it's it's a privilege to be able to to do all these things.
SPEAKER_00100%, yeah. And I think it, yeah, I think that's what it confirmed for me. It was like I was so I felt quite emotional actually doing it because I was like, I just feel so grateful that I think also I was talking to I was actually talking to a close friend about this at the weekend, and I was saying I think she feels a little bit stuck at the moment as to kind of where she wants to go with her career and if she wants to pivot. And I was saying that actually I feel so so grateful and lucky that I've truly found something that I am so passionate about and I care so much about because that is such a privilege. Like there's not that many people who can hand on heart say that they've got a kind of a real passion, but also they can make that their work, and I think that's why I I do feel so pumped up and fired, and everyone's like, So have a have a week off now, have a break. But I'm like, no, like this has given me so much charge now to just go forward with this. But I do genuinely feel so lucky that A, I've got my passion, but B, I was able to take the step back, do what I needed to do to upskill to make sure that I deliver what I really want to deliver. So, yeah, it's been it's been a big week. It's honestly flown by, I can't believe it's Friday. I was like, oh my god, it's podcast day, so big days. But there's been quite a lot going on in the health and fitness world talking about women's health. No. Apple Health has now got a tracking um element to it with uh permenopause and menopausal symptoms, which for me feels huge. I mean, that's my bread and butter working with perimenopausal women, and I think I've worked with women who've been struggling with it. Some people fly through it, absolutely, some people really, really struggle with it, and I think actually data collection and tracking can feel like just one huge extra task when you're in that perimenopausal. Funk and mud, and you can't see the wood for the tree. So I think actually I feel like people of that generation are quite comfortable using Apple and using Apple Health. So I'm really hoping that actually this could be a really positive thing for women and tracking their data and holding themselves accountable, but then having the data to then present to health professionals that they need help from. Um there's an argument again, and I've seen it fair enough like what do we then do with that data? And I I totally hear that. I think for a lot of people they'll receive that data and then have no idea what the hell to do with that. Um, but I do feel like that's a really positive step in the right direction. And I'm just aware that perimenopause can be, it's I think it's we're talking about it a lot 100%, and it needs to be spoken about. But I think with that, it's become quite heavy, and I think people have become quite scared of that transition phase. But actually, if we can make it into more of a positive thing and upskill and empower women to know what's going on in that period of their lives, then hopefully we'll see some big moves in the right direction. So I was really pleased to see that. Um, and AG1.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I saw the AG1 thing. So it feels it feels you know, I talk about creatine a lot, but AG1 is known for the swamp powder, um, which is the yeah, the greens powder. Um yeah, I just think I think it's interesting. I think you know, supplements is absolutely booming. It's very much my day-to-day world of working in in supplements. I think sometimes um on the whole, most most supplements are not essential. Yep. Um, but I do feel quite strongly about the benefits of of creatine. So I think for them it's a good, it's a good move. It's um they're obviously known for the greens powder. So I think it's interesting when a brand gets to that size and how do they, you know, how do they evolve what they're known for and creatine's, yeah, it's a little bit different. Um I would say from like a a business profitability, like it's it's pretty it's pretty decent. Um and we're also in a market where um whey protein is in tough demand. Um, you know, we're we're we're literally you know the the the demand is now outstripping suppliers. I think I've talked about this on a on a couple of pods, it's now sort of mainstream news. So something that I've been working with for a couple of years now. We've we've seen that growth, it's just mad to see the the demand, and I think it's amazing because more people are choosing to listen. You know, supplements is all you know, back in the day it was sort of a little bit like you know, effervescent powders and those Lucas A tabs that I'd get sent to school with, you know, just in case I felt faint. Um and you know, now we've got this whole you know industry of of all these different flipping supplements that are sold on the topic of perimenopause or menopausal women. I think many brands are throw, you know, are selling lots of stuff directly, like this will help your menopause. And I'm like, uh I don't know about that, and that makes me sad because I remember once I presented to Holland and Barrett, and I think I said something like there is no there is no great uh more passionate demographic in terms of trying to find something that will help than a menopausal woman. Like they will try anything, they are full of rage and disdain for the world of how they have been left to just manage these these things. So I think sometimes the supplements industry can very much prey on what I believe is is quite a yeah. I mean, uh, you know, if you are in that bracket, if you're in that life stage, um, but yeah, I think create I think creatine could can be good for can be good for everyone. So yeah, so now we've got swamp juice and AG power powerful powerful swamp juice now. Um which is good. Hopefully they use that line. Uh they'll be banging my door down to help them with marketing. Who should we have front this campaign? Shrek. He'll come out of the swamp and he'll throw Princess Fiona. So you've seen Shrek?
SPEAKER_00You've seen that film. I love Shrek, yeah, I like Shrek. Okay, fine.
SPEAKER_01Shrek and Dunkir.
SPEAKER_00Thank goodness, phew. Yeah. And the only update I saw was that Strava has collabed with Claude, my favourite Chad GPT, not Chad B G P what is it, what would it be called? AI. AI Cloud C AI guy, Claude. Cloud, Claude, Cloud? Yeah, Claude. Claude, Claude. I remember Claude. When I get another cat, I want to call it Claude. Anyway, uh, Strava and Claude have now synced up, sunk up, oh my god, thank god it's Friday. Um, to give us greater insights into so basically, I guess the idea here is that you would upload your 18k run on a Sunday or whatever you're doing, and then it would say, Hey Laura, this is great. You want to improve here and you want to do this, and maybe change your playlist to a little bit higher tempo here. But I think it's quite a good idea. I quite like the idea. I think people who were on Strava anyway obviously give a shit about their data and their stats. Why not add a bit of Claude work in there, you know?
SPEAKER_01Oh I think so, yeah. I was talking obviously AI is such a big conversation, right? Um, and I actually yeah, had a had a situation where I was this week where I was aware that someone had used AI to deliver uh some some work, some thinking uh on something, and the person that received that was livid, and they they said it was so obvious that it was it was AI generated, and you know it was sort of positioned to you know to me, and I thought, Christ, there's absolutely no way. I said, I literally, if you looked through my embarrassing chat, I have got chat GPT and I have got Claude on my phone. But if you look through, it would literally say, Um, how do you remove lime scale off your car bonnet? Or is Tesco's open on a Sunday? Like, I'm not in there utilising it for work because I just don't trust it. I don't trust it, and I have a I won't share the detail, but I have an example where Chat GPT personally did me really dirty and it gave me some information that was not true, and I delivered it, I delivered it with my chest, and now me and Chat GPT we're not going we're not going further than than sort of home home improvement and opening times. I I don't trust it. Ford as well, I don't trust him.
SPEAKER_00You know, so you would you don't think you'd be interested in using that for your strip of stuff?
SPEAKER_01Um I don't know. I think I uh as I I don't see a need for it. I'm happy enough. Uh I don't what's my you know when we talk about pain point, consumer pain points, problem solution. I don't have a problem. I'm fine, I know exactly what I'm doing. I don't need what do I need Claude to tell me? I'm I mean I'm almost slightly pissed off, but I got an email to tell me that my resting heart rate was up eight percent. I was thinking, bro, I know.
SPEAKER_00You knew already, I got that. I was stressed as fuck. What are you trying? Sarah, Sarah, my resting heart rate is five 50, whatever it was. And I thought it actually made me feel sad.
SPEAKER_01I was like, yeah, I know, I've seen I've seen it. I know. What are you emailing? And I know it was well-intended AI response that is obviously an automatic trigger to email me and say, Have you thought about being less stressed? Yes, I have thought about being less stressed, but what would you like me to do? And I think that is the thing when we talk about AR AI, I think that is where it just misses the mark because you can't say to I ideally I would say to AI, listen, AI, I don't want your advice. You tell me the facts, you know, you can tell me the facts, but please don't speak to me like a child and say, Here's here's five reasons why your resting heart rate might be high in here. I guess it was well intended, yeah, but it has landed poorly. And how do I how yeah it has and most things land poorly with me? I'm very hard work. Um, but it's just it's one of those things that I just thought, well, how do I get how do I give do I reply and go, that's not cool, bro? Like what are you trying to say? You know, so you know, when you see someone, you meet up someone for lunch or something or a coffee and they go, gosh, you look tired. How I feel. AI just misses the mark, and it's like, are you well if I look tired, it's because I am tired. Um you said tired more, I think, than you've ever said. I know, yeah, I know. It feels weird, it feels weird saying it. But yeah, I just think I don't know, with all of this AI, like so. Going back to the conversation I had on AI, there is someone that I know that's having this conversation, they work in the legal profession, and they had I think it was an interview question that was around, you know, what is your view on AI usage? And there was two very polar opinions. One was like, no way, you're trained to be a legal professional, it is literally your job to go through the case details with your client, and and you need that, you need that thorough uh you know understanding of where we're at. And I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you. And then the other person was like, Yeah, but when you're a lawyer, you get billed by the hour. So if there's a way that AI can help you and you can deliver more work better for your clients, you can deliver the same result, but use less billable hours to do so. Why wouldn't you do that? And then I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. And then I thought, I don't, I've just been uh you know very flimsy there in my AI views, and I still don't know. Yeah, I still don't know. It just it's not uh currently it is not for me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think it I think it has its its value in terms of efficiency, which you all love, Mrs.
SPEAKER_01I love, but I don't like it, I don't like low effort, and AI to me feels low effort.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I hear you, I hear you. I think there's ways in terms of even like what I'm trying to do with with kind of building out, it's great for me to kind of build out frameworks with it and kind of ideas and structures and bits that I don't really have a great insight into, but would I rather then would would I in this instant then get that information confirmed by a human being who is an expert in the field 110%? But I think, yeah, for sure, in terms of efficiency and minor things like hello, is Tesco still open?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, love about what's the worst that can happen?
SPEAKER_00Go on to Claude or Chat GPT over a Google because I'm still a Googler.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, I do, I do. Do you know what I've used Claude for? I fell into the trap of you know, they were like, use Claude to brainstorm for like your social media content. That's what I've used it for. But I've actually never I've actually never taken any action from it as a result because I don't like what it tells I'm like that's not I don't think it's very accurate, I'll just do what I feel. I'm very much a on-feel person, yeah. Um and yeah, and I I I just I just really I really struggle with it, but I also know that I have to embrace it. It's like you know, this is going to be a big part of our future. Um but I just yeah, I just think, well, like you know, like robot taxis, not a chance. You can't even get me on a line bike.
SPEAKER_00What do you want to get in a car with no driver? Literally. You're a mad fam. Yeah, not happening. I'm the same. I'm a I'm the definition of control freak, so that will not be happening. Even lifts, I'm not good in lifts, I'm not good in anything like that. I there isn't you could not pay me to get in a driverless car. No chance. No, not happening. I will walk, I will walk my little tushy wherever I need to go.
SPEAKER_01But yes, um listen, I'm sure all of this conversation will not age well because you know AR AI will you know we'll be like rolling around in our driverless cars at some point. I'm sure, right? But I I currently cannot bear the thought of that because that's that's that sounds ridiculous. But yeah, I just think you know, what are we just gonna end up like in the Matrix? It's like what do I just stay at home and live stream on Twitch and flips and whatever the fuck it's called? Kit. Have you seen the right? I'm gonna say this. I keep seeing um someone someone close to me keeps sending me memes of this bloke um called Gymskin.
SPEAKER_00We spoke about this privately. I had no idea who the hell this was or what this is.
SPEAKER_01Like I So he's this bloke that apparently goes, follow that tune, and he's fine, and he follows that tune and he finds Madonna. There's loads of stuff on the internet about him, and he does this sort of dance and it's called dropping the shoulder. And he does and he does this sort of you know, this thing, and I'm thinking, what the hell? I is this entertainment now, this live streaming, just people talk. I mean, with you know on a podcast, the irony talking shit, but people just stream and you get money from streaming.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm so confused by this.
SPEAKER_01It's very, it's very, very weird. But I wonder, you know, if this if this is the future. Like here we are recording a podcast on our Friday night, whereas back in the day, in my in biceps prime, she would be down the club, you know? She would be, she would be dropping her shoulder. I actually spoke about this to someone this week. I said, the prime of my life that youth of today will never experience is dropping the shoulder for yeah by Usher in the middle of the club, wearing your biggest hit-stacked heels and your lipsy dress, smoking a fag on the dance floor with all of your mates and all of the boys that you fancy at until 2 a.m. And then your mate's dad would collect you outside Oceana Kingston and you'd go out with 20 quid.
SPEAKER_00What a time to be alive. I didn't get that, I didn't get that time. Oh fantastic.
SPEAKER_01You'd have you'd literally have cigarette burns all over you because you would be able to smoke on the dance floor, and people would you'd just be like dancing, and you'd be like, ah no, it was like, yeah, and you and you'd be like that, and then someone would be like, sorry, and then you're like, You've just stabbed me with your cigarette, and oh god, and then you're so drunk, you're like, okay, whatever. But like, what a time, what a time to be alive that was. And if we compare that to now and our current scene, the closest I'm getting to a nightclub is the flashing lights and a DJ from a fitness competition.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I agree. Isn't it mad? Yeah, it's a bit mad, isn't it? I was thinking about that. I don't think I can't remember last time I went out out. I just don't I don't go out out, but I I I am a big fan of this. I think it's great fun. Like I I need to actually get myself to more of these events. No, but my mind you saying this, we know I get very overstimulated, so maybe it's you do. What do you don't want anything to do with a night out? No, as in a gym, a gym, a gym event based around music, I could get I could get with. And do you know what? I had three people message me yesterday after my coaching day, Save. Three great playlist today, Sarah, and I thought, did you use one of mine? Is that why? No, it's actually my own one I wrote, thank you. I composed it. You wrote it.
SPEAKER_01You compose your own music. I composed my own playlist, thank you.
SPEAKER_00Um but there was a lot of drum and bass on there, to be fair to you, and I thought biceps would like this, but I I can see that I can see the appeal of it. Like I love I love a good playlist in a gym. To be fair though, do you think people actually listen to playlists in gym now or they've got their own headphones in? I don't remember being on a gym floor thinking people are listening to this music, they've just got their headphones in.
SPEAKER_01Depends. So this morning in Shea Gotting, um, in our sweat class, we had all the bangers. We played uh yeah, we played uh Back to Your Root, like all the drum and bass bangers, and he was loving it, yeah, and that is part of it. He was like big tune coming up, and he he was playing tunes he knew I'd like because it was like oh yeah, it was tune. But the funny we're both in our 40s, and I'm on the bike, and he's sort of there, and it it's just quite funny, really. And I don't know if everyone else really liked drum and bass, and I did think that. I thought, does everyone else like this music? Me and Ben do, we'd play it for any time of day. That'd go 6am at a pop.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, 6am. I was training on training on my own, got no friends, but I was training in the um gym after I'd finished coaching yesterday, and I had the big the big speaker booming in my place. I thought this actually makes the experience so much more enjoyable for me. Like 100%. Great music, good vibes. I think obviously a gym setting for like events and stuff, people are sober. I think obviously we've seen people aren't drinking as much now. So for me, that would be if someone said to me, Dave, do you want to meet out up on a Friday and doing something like that? Absolutely, I may even remember saying to my friend the other week when we well, god, it was probably two months ago now when we did gym sync. Gym sync Friday evening, great time, great music, workout, a couple of vibes, a couple of pictures, lovely. And then I went and had dinner with her, and it was like the best catch-up we've had for months. It was so nice. So, yeah, I'm so I'm so down with this change in in settings. I do think there's still a value in going out to Archer Street or whatever your favourite club is or pub is as well. It's a different, totally different experience, isn't it? But are you? I just like it. I'm really pro it. I'm really pro it.
SPEAKER_01So, what I saw this week is there was a group of lads. This is just sort of went a bit viral on Instagram. A group of lads went on a bar crawl, but it wasn't just any bar crawl, it was a Diet Coke bar crawl. So they went went to all these places and they all bought a Diet Coke and they rated their Diet Coke in each of the places. So obviously, some are on draft, some are in a bottle, some with ice, some with blah blah blah. So they did this whole crawl on a Diet Coke, and you sent it to me, and you said bit of you, and about five other people sent it to me saying bit of you, and I thought, fantastic, because I remember the time, and no offense to the people that I socialise at that point, but I remember people being really quite mean to me when I didn't want to drink. I felt really uh to so to the point again. I think I mentioned this before, but to the point where I had to go to the bar on a night out, I had to go to the bar and ask the barman, bro, please can you make me a uh water sparkling water soda and lime and put it in a little glass, a tumbler, to make it look like this is alcohol because I just couldn't face the judgment. Yeah, I don't feel like that anymore. I feel like I can do what I feel like I could ask for a solero on the dance floor and no one would bat an eyelid at me, which I love actually thinking about it. How wonderful would that be? Popping your soleros in the air, dripping all over your head. Um, but yeah, I do remember a time, and there was one particular person that I socialised the time and I I she said, Are you drinking? I had this big old cup. I said, Yeah, I actually was, and she went, Don't believe you. Grabbed the drink, took a sip, and I thought, you giant cow. Like but all but also what we have to remember is this is that was, I believe, a projection of me saying, I don't want to drink, but you're drinking. Do you think I'm judging you? I'm not. I actually don't give a heck, do not give a heck. Like, you'll stop being funny to me in about an hour once you're completely off your face, as I would be. Um but that's okay, no judgment. I'll still I'll still be here uh remembering everything. But yeah, I just think that is the biggest cultural shift that I have seen over the past 20 years. And currently, so statistics in the UK, almost a quarter of adults in the UK now say that they don't drink alcohol. Um, and the significant shift in those drinking habits, as we know, is driven by the younger generations, um, with over a third of young adults choosing to live entirely alcohol-free. So, yeah, Gen Z, let's call them. That's you, isn't it? Are you Gen Z? Yeah, fine. I'm the God knows the ancients. Um, up yeah, Gen Z, up to 39% of young men, which is actually quite interesting. It's it's a higher percentage in young men uh than women. So 31% of young women uh ages uh 16 to 24. Actually, that's not your age bracket, sorry. Now non-drinkers, um but yeah, it's it's it's uh it's it's really a mad one, and I think also commercially what I've seen is the growth of low and low and no. Yeah. Um, you know, we love it, we love a Jubel, we love uh, you know, all of that, and I think that that is we've seen that has come into the fitness scene that that Jubel have sort of done the fitness events to try and attract the people that don't want to drink a bit into it, and then obviously the younger generation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, totally, yeah. I agree. I think there's been a massive shift, and I I yeah, I've been actually, I don't think I've ever really I think initially when I stopped drinking it was a bit of a oh Sarah's not drinking, but I've been really lucky actually. I don't think people have ever really bat an eyelid. Um, and I think also a big reason why I wasn't drinking a lot in my early 20s because I was a PT, like you're up at what crack of crack of barrow fat like you can't be hung over and that sleepy. So I think that was one of Main reasons I really pulled back on drinking anyway, but I think the pandemic for me as well the the big P word, but I I wasn't drinking at all in that time, so I think that was a big turning point for me as well. I was only kind of what older baby, but probably about 23. But I we I wasn't drinking at home at that point, so I think and I just didn't really miss it, and then I never really went back to it. Um yeah, I just I I've been really lucky. I think my all of my friends have always been really sportive. I'm I wouldn't describe myself as teetotal, like very occasionally I have a drink out, but I think everyone is just learning to socialise without alcohol now. I think there's so many other things that people do. I'd much rather go and have a meal and and kind of maybe one glass of wine or nothing, it doesn't really phase me. But I think, yeah, it's a massive cultural shock. So I think even like um my parents' generations, even like they I think they were a bit shocked when I was like, Yeah, and I'm not drinking, and it doesn't bother them now, it does they don't even think about it now. But I think initially they're like, Oh, you're not drinking. I think that that generation has spent their whole lives socialising around alcohol, and I think even now my parents were, oh, we're often neighbours for a drink, or we're often neighbours, and it's it's still so based around alcohol. Well, maybe we'd say, Whereas I think they don't actually really get, I think my parents find my whole like coffee and pastry thing a bit bizarre. They're like, Why would you spend four pounds on a coffee when you can make one at home? And I think for me, I'm like, Well, I don't spend money on alcohol, my money goes on my nine pounds Joe and the juice shake that I want to have that day instead of a glass of wine. That's just where I spend my money. But yeah, I remember them finding that a bit bizarre. And when I said to them, look, that's that's my equivalent to alcohol, they were like, Oh, okay, like that makes sense. I think people are just getting more comfortable with finding where they want to spend their money and how they relax. But yeah, it's definitely a massive shift that we've seen in the last I'd say 10 years or so, really.
SPEAKER_01Totally, and I think, like you were saying, that like the lifestyle of exercising more, yes. You can't really have a big night out and do all that drinking when you're wearing this, especially with the tech and wearables. We know when you drink alcohol, you're gonna get a dreadful score and get an email from your ring to say your your ball bag ton. I'm like, okay, thank you. I just think I just think we're so attuned to it and we spend such a lot of time feeling well. Like I feel well, I feel better. Like, God knows what was dragging myself through. When I used to go, when I used to go to I used to go out on like a Thursday night till genuinely like 5am, I'd be at my desk at 10 to 9. How? God, I'd be on death's door today. But yeah, same same for me. It was like when I started getting in, I was bored of being dreadful at the ward as CrossFit because I was so hanging, and then when it became my profession, it just wasn't feasible. I just couldn't do it. Um, but yeah, I do I think the judgment culture is is definitely like relaxed now. Um but yeah, I I just think it's interesting that it's like you know, it's sort of that the gym nightclub culture is you do want to sort of feel something, like even this morning I'm on the ski urg, I'm pushing it, I've got this drum and bass. It's I'm sort of feeling something, yeah, you know, and and I think that's again that's that group fitness and it's sort of that curated environment versus just having your headphones in, doing a couple of curls in the squat rack, you know. It's it's peop people coming together that is weirdly a bit like being in the club back in the day, but you sort of walk out a bit sweaty without cigarette burns on you, um might most of the time. Um but yeah, it's just I I I find it I find it fascinating that you know, you know, our gyms, then you night clubs. Yeah, I think people are meeting people through gyms now, through run clubs, through activity. Like we I remember back in the day, you know, you'd go out and your sole purpose as single girlies, as me and my girly friendship group were, you'd go out to wherever these god-awful places we used to go, and you would probably you'd meet a group of guys and you'd insert like I haven't done that in so long. No, exactly. That's bonkers, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, whereas the idea of like if you've got kind of friends moving moving to London or friends kind of moving, you know, oh yeah, why don't you join the run club? Like you'll probably like socialise and meet meet potentially dates there and meet like that's what people do now, is they go. I think it obviously probably is a bit more heightened in London, but that's what people do if they want to meet someone. It's like, well, I'm I'll go and find a gym or or some kind of physical activity that I can then meet kind of like-minded people at. And I I wonder what that will have like impact in terms of relationship success longer term. Just this is just me thinking out loud as I say this.
SPEAKER_01I can tell you, yeah, I can tell you because no one's got any confidence to speak to anyone. Yeah, in the club, you could go, all right, darling. I'd get a slap on the ass, and probably within about 30 minutes, if we were into it, you'd I don't know, you'd exchange numbers or whatever. You wouldn't do that today. Jesus Christ, you get you know, obviously that's not ideal, yeah, but that was how you'd meet people. It was like, you know, tripping people up on the playground, the adult version.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. But I do think on the other hand, I think wonder if people are are forming more meaningful connections without sounding really deep here because they're not they're not kind of disguised by alcohol or that kind of alcohol confidence. Maybe when people are meeting each other at a run club, for example, or at these kind of fitness events, they're actually finding more like-minded people that they can actually communicate with and understand better without that stimulus, perhaps. It's just a just a thought in terms of that, and it kind of I think always I think it's always obviously in terms of relationships, it's always always easy to maintain a healthier, happier relationship if you've got stuff in common. And if fitness is that for you, then that makes perfect sense. So I just wonder actually, if people less people are meeting each other through alcohol-fuelled environments, what will that mean for kind of relationship longevity?
SPEAKER_01That's just uh I just think the Dutch coverage isn't there. I think people are scared of being rejected, and then I think everyone just gets automatically friend zoned because it's like, oh, isn't this lovely? We're all going to this run club, and it's sort of how do you cross that line of going, actually, I think you're alright. Um you you know, you run the risk then of someone going, uh no, I didn't think of you like that at all, and then you're fucked, you can never go back to that run club because you feel too embarrassed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I literally just had a look now with um just a little a little google. This is stating that nearly 20% of young adults have gone on a date with someone they met through a fitness club. Yeah, so yeah, and an overwhelming 72% of Gen Z join run clubs specifically to socialise and meet new people, right? So, yeah. I don't think that's the case for me as a millennial.
SPEAKER_01I understood. Are you a millennial? I don't know, am I?
SPEAKER_00Boomer, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.
SPEAKER_01You know what? You are horrid to me. Absolutely vile. What is a boomer? How old do you have to be to be a boomer? Oh, you're fucking kidding me. 1946. That's my mother, she's 70. You absolute giant cow. Right, I am a millennial. Uh yes, 1981 to 1996, which you're not far off.
SPEAKER_00Two years, two years. Um, but yeah, no, it's intra. It is intro, and I agree. I think it is definitely the new club. But there's so many trends. There's many, many trends. There really is, and another trend that I have spotted everywhere is fibre. Fibre maxing. Have you heard this phrase? Have you heard of this fibre maxing?
SPEAKER_01I think fibre maxing has been around for a while in my head because the protein everyone was talking about the protein boom. So it was like car no carbs for mobs, that was like demonized. Then it was like fats are bad, and it was like fats are only like keto, and now we went to protein, now we're fibre maxing.
SPEAKER_00We are fibre maxing, and fibre maxing can be defined as a viral wellness trend, focus on intentionally maximising daily fibre intake to hit or exceed the recommended 30 grams daily allowance. Fibre is everywhere. And I'm not gonna lie, I was a bit kind of ignorant to it. I was like, what I knew that fibre was valuable, but I think in my head, all I could think of was do you remember those fibre one bars? Do you remember fibre one bars?
SPEAKER_01They are full of polyphenols, and yeah, I think it's polyphenols. I'm actually gonna fact check that so I'm not chatting shit.
SPEAKER_00Fact check.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, they are they're quite interesting little rocket things. Yeah, because they're just polyphenols.
SPEAKER_00Little squares, I think they're like 90 calories, and they are about as chewy as it gets. But that was like when I was in my inner verticoma's wellness era, I can look back now, I'm like, oh my god. Um, they were my main go-to pudding. I'd have one of those and I was stuffed. Um but yeah, that was my only real it kind of insight into fibre until obviously I've I've become a fitness professional, and then later on, with my studies recently more into kind of gut health and hormonal health, but fibre is so important, and I'm actually really here for all of this chat around fibre. Um, so just to give a little bit of an insight, so there are two main types insoluble fibre, which is our whole grains, nuts, and seeds, which bulks up stool. Laura like this bit, bulks up stall. Speeds passed through the boughs, and then you have your soluble fibre, so things like oats and beans which dissolve in water to form a gel, which slows digestion. So we need gut bacteria, and there's so many benefits to them. I will just run through them very quickly. Um, but they do help reduce inflammation. They are actually very good for our immune system. So, notably, nine uh 70% of our immune cells live in our gut, so they are so important for our immune health and general health. Um, they're very good for maintaining the integrity of our gut wall and our gut lining, so it's super important for to reduce the risk of things like thybo and leaky gut and things that can cause us some serious damage. Also, very good for sugar blood and blood sugar regulation. And with GLP1 in, we always know that that is super important, so that actually aids insulin function as well. So we need the fibre for that as well, in terms of uh reducing risk of things like type 2 diabetes, etc. etc. Um, also helps us feel fuller for longer. Those fibre one bars certainly didn't, but they aren't actually a good form of fibre. Um, and actually, the World Cancer Research Fund recommends that we do eat that 30 grams of um fibre per day to help reduce cancer risk as well. So there's some really strong scientific backing there in terms of reduced risk of a disease such as cancer as well. So the hype's there, and it's understandably there because it is so important for us. Are you are you aware of your fibre intake, Miss Biceps?
SPEAKER_01Uh probably not as much as I should be. What I wanted, I'm delighted to tell you that I was correct when I mentioned polyphenols. Because fibre is the prebiotic, which is obviously a non-digestible carbohydrate, and then the polyphenols modulate the microbiome, so they have a synergistic effect, and combining those two increases the production of bioactive um acids and prostbiotics, which are highly beneficial for the gut bacteria. So I was not indeed chatting shit, I just needed to think about that. And the reason why I know about polyphenols is because they are in protein bars, um, and uh because obviously, as part of uh my my work and and uh managing uh new product development around uh protein bars as I have done in over the last few years. If you eat too many protein bars, you can have too much, and that can clog you up. Clog you right up, yes. And this this is the thing with all of these uh cruciferous vegetables uh and legumes. Yeah, it just I think you just have to use just whatever you're used to, and I think you do, you know, this is non-uh scientific advice, but from from what I understand, you do have to train your gut as you do any other muscle organ in the body. Ideally, let's not go from zero to five hundred uh legumes um i in in one day, but yeah, I I I definitely because I've been on, as I mentioned, I've basically been on food prep for the last sort of 10 years, on and off. I actually and previously I was in a position where uh in a partnership I didn't do much of the cooking, so I I um I don't really think about it because I don't really enjoy because it's not just not my thing at all. Yeah. So I kind of just trust in what I'm I'm given. So yeah, I definitely need to I definitely need to consider it, but I just feel I feel really lucky that I just don't I don't ever really get any digestive challenge on anything. Like I just feel I'm yeah, I'm I'm good.
SPEAKER_00It's good to go. Yeah, no, I must say I um it's something I've actually been really aware of since obviously it's been in the we've seen a lot more of it just generally about and spoken about, and I I know um lovely Rihanna Lambert has just launched a book all about fibre as well, which looks to be very, very good. I need to have a look at that as well. But I think yeah, it's me it's made me very aware as well. I've I mean I don't think I've actually spoken about it terribly much on here publicly either, but I really suffered with my gut health through my childhood, um, IBS, IBD, etc. And then post-COVID, I I had I was infected with COVID, I did a test, blah blah blah. About three weeks later, I was nearly hospitalised with um what was diagnosed as kind of colitis, which is generalised inflammation of the gut. But oh my word, for about a year after I was really, really unwell with it. Like it and it gut health is so it it impacted me so intensely because it can be so anxiety-inducing, like without being TMI, like if you've got to get to the toilet and you're having a bad time with your bow, you've got to get to the toilet. And I think when you are out and about and you're trying to live a life, that can actually be really um, really horrible. And yeah, it's just gut health is obviously we know it's linked very closely to immune health and uh brain health, etc. But um, yeah, it's something that I've actually paid a lot of attention to, and yeah, I've again I I'm not a nutritionist, I've got qualifications in nutrition, but I'm not a nutritionist myself. But definitely second Laura's um voicing on building up Sony because I think I went a little bit too hard on the fibre too soon and clogged myself up a little bit. So just be mindful of that as well. And I think really the main thing that you want to look at is kind of variety with fibre as well. I think it's very easy to find something that works and then keep kind of increase the ante with that. But I'd say like try and vary your source of fibre as well. Um, there's a wider range of bits that you can do, and it's really easy to do. It's even things like swapping like white rice for whole-grown rice, like whole grown rice has like 50% more fibre in it, and things like chia seeds we see everywhere. But little changes and tweaks like that can really improve your kind of gut health without you having to spend money again, as we've touched on, on loads and loads of supplements. Like it doesn't have to be difficult, it's so easy to do through eating a range of fruit and veg and and carbohydrates, etc. full range of everything. But yeah, you don't need to spend loads on on um on supplements, just do a bit of research, find some good books, find some good recipes. I think variety with anything, I think, in terms of gut health, anyway, it's always good to get a variety of foods. And I mean, I know Laura does with her apple apple open iodes. I bet you there's loads of fibre in that actually. I bet that's a real yeah, yeah, there is.
SPEAKER_01There is, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And her corn eggs that she's now obsessed with. I have to just caveat this with a little of a brief story before we move on to our pits and peeps of the week. Um, I nipped out the other day to get myself a meal deal whilst Laura and I was working from the co space, and I brought her back some corn eggs because I knew, as a good friend of hers, she was struggling with this meal prep. She was she was not having a good time, she was grumpy, she wasn't happy. So I thought, I know, she's a vegetarian, I'll get her some corn eggs to try. The face on her when I brought them out to her, she was like, These for me. I said, Yes, yes, try it, try it, try it. She wouldn't try it, she's like, I'm not trying it, not trying it before we try it. I'll be sick. I'll be sick, I'll be sick. Anyway, who do I leave the packet with? Laura. She's obsessed, and they were in a basket the other day. I saw that on her own. Obsessed. I think I think that's a bit of a much serious set.
SPEAKER_01No, I was in dire straits. Do you know what? It was alright. It's just unfortunate. What will happen to me with something like that is I will eat one in future. I will eat one that will have a grisly bit in it, and it will put me off, and I'll feel sick, and then I won't be able to touch them for the next two to three business years. I'm honestly I'm such a disaster with food. I drew this is why I think, yeah, I need a husband that is just gonna really manage and and be really patient with with all of that because I there's so it is honestly easier to say what I do eat uh than my can't I'm just being a long way. What I do eat than what I don't eat, that's it.
SPEAKER_00That's true.
SPEAKER_01And if I go out for dinner, I'm basically ideally I just asked the kids' menu. This one, a tomato pasta will do my G. Yeah, I went to this lovely restaurant a few weeks ago with some girlfriends, and they were having like all of this squid and blah blah blah, and I just thought that is a disgusting. So I had chips with a sprinkle of feta on them. I didn't really like the feta, but it was alright. And then I had and then I asked for a bit of basically tomato pasta, and I just thought, Christ, this is so embarrassing, but I just don't like any, I don't didn't like the rest of the menu, most of it was meat anyway.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fair. It is hard, it is hard. And I get you, I think I'd be the same. I'm a bit funny about textures as well, but I do f I eat a lot. I'm quite I'm quite good with my food. Did you have you always been fussy?
SPEAKER_01Yes, it was my mum my mum will tell you a story about when I cried my eyes out because I used to, and I still do to a certain extent, but I haven't had them for years and years and years. I used to be a big uh lover of fish fingers, birds-eye fish fingers. And mum once cooked me some fish fingers and some potato smileys, and there uh and there were black bits in the in the fish bit, so I chopped it, and in the fish there were like some tiny black dots, whatever it might have been, whatever. I can't dread to think what it was. Anyway, mum knows this story to this day. I was crying. There's black bits in my fish fingers, and then I couldn't have a fish finger for years because it made it really put me off. So, yeah, from a young out. I mean, don't know if let's I don't know how we diagnose this, um, but I I'm very, very easily put off by some things that I'm like, oh, I can't eat that. That is, and so for example, when I did eat meat as a child, do you remember bacon medallions? Yes, so you have to buy them separately because I couldn't a Russia would send me because of all the bubbling fat. I can't stand fat on meat or gristle or anything. I'm like, how does anyone eat lamb or is it absolutely disgusting? So mum used to make me bacon medallions, she used to have a pair of kitchen scissors that she would chop round the bacon medallion, and she would put the bacon on top of potato waffles with some ketchup for me. And that was the only way I could eat it. And if there was any unfortunately, yeah, I'm a disaster. So basically, linked into my pit of the week, which is where I am at at the moment, is I had to, I was hungry earlier and I was on the go. I had to spend £9.20 on a Joe and the Juice smoothie.
SPEAKER_00But which one did you have? Because I also I also guiltily spent £9.20 on a juice this week, and it was a £7 out of 10.
SPEAKER_01Um, I did like it, it was nice. Yeah, the one wasn't as swirly. I don't think so. It was just it was just a really basic banana chocolate something, uh date puree, I think. And yeah, I mean, I just thought I I they passed it over to me and I thought £9.20.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Is that where we are? And the protein in it, the protein is not even way isolate, it's protein and collagen.
SPEAKER_00Oh, nose as well, she'll tell you. Oh no, it's when they're like, Do you want to pay by the app? And I'm like, yes, and I'm like, this isn't gonna make any difference to how expensive this shake is gonna be. I had I had the what one is it? It's like the we touched it the like the do you want to say it for me? Air one? Air hell or one. It's like that one from Joan Juice, so it's like swirly, it's got like Greek, I think it actually was a gut hell fun enough linking to a fibre chat. It was actually a fine, I think it's called like good for your gut, gut for your good, whatever.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, I did see, I did see a gut one.
SPEAKER_00Pink, pretty, very pretty, lovely. Um, but yeah, was it worth the money? No, probably's not gonna make the phone for like three. I'm gonna sneeze.
SPEAKER_01Bless you. Excuse me, everyone. Bless you, but okay. So what is your what is your pit? And it better not be anything to do with porn.
SPEAKER_00Well, it is actually, I'm afraid. I have come to the end of Rivals on Disney Plus. So yeah, that was my peak of the week last week, and it's come tumbling down this week because we've we've literally raced through two seasons of it, and I don't know what I'm gonna do myself now.
SPEAKER_01I think you know Jason DeRulo.
SPEAKER_00Do I know Jason DeRulo? Of course you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know he does that song Freak of the Week. Freak of yes. That is what I hear when you say peak of the week. Freak of the week. Yes.
SPEAKER_00I'm no longer a freak of the week because I've run out of pool now, so I don't know what I'm gonna do myself. But um yeah finished rivals, really sad. 10 10 would recommend it. Isn't fancy. I don't know why in my head I had this mental block on watching it for so long because I've got a bit of a weird thing, I don't really like fantasy stuff, it creeps me out a little bit. Um but it's not even remotely fantasy, it's a it's it's not it's fantastic. So please please go watch if you've not watched it and you have Disney Plus, it's 1010 worth watching. So yeah, that is my pit of the week. Your your peak of the week, Jason DeRullo.
SPEAKER_01Right, so I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go peak. Yeah. Um, and it's too early to share the details, but I am delighted to share that I have a new family member has arrived into the world, and um, yeah, that's been a a part of what's uh going on uh in my in my week, and nothing nothing is better than that. Uh a new life that is part of me, is part of my genetic pool. He's got big guns already, I've seen him. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm absolutely delighted.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, hopefully I'll be able to share some more uh at a later time. Oh, I love that, and yeah, my yeah, my peak of the week, Jason Drudo Study, was that exam result. I was just well chuffed, I think. Yeah, as I said earlier in the pod, it's just a big weight off my teeny tiny chesticles. So I am buzzing with that, and I feel like I've just got a bit more space to think clearly now. So yeah, I am well chuffed. I feel like I made it like a mental goal, was like end of end of the first half of the year. I went to get that wrapped up. So just got my coursework to do now, and then hopefully that will be it tucked up in bed, and I can crack on with some more things. But yeah, quasi positive vibes. I feel like we've had we've we've done the we've done the most, as we always do. I sent earlier a little meme, is it a meme? A gif, a gif of Roadrunner. And I was like, why does this feel like this has been used this week? And it has, but what a privilege it is to be so busy and to have so many lovely things going on, and to have a podcast and listeners that are so lovely as we have, and um, yeah, I hope everyone has enjoyed this episode this week.
SPEAKER_01Yep, absolutely, and I think um, yeah, huge congratulations to you for all the work and effort that you put into that exam. And we'll look forward to uh seeing where you where you go next with that. And um, yeah, uh as we said, uh I don't know what day it is um at all, but do you know what? Over this weekend, uh I've had a couple of mates message me saying, Hello, are you gonna rest, please? Uh and I and I actually will uh at some point over this this weekend. Yeah, in between me berating myself of why was your push press so bad on Wednesday, like ridiculous, who cares? I just can't help it. I think it's what part of it's part of what drives me and what makes me do all these things that I do, you know, if I if I didn't have that, if I didn't care. So yeah, I've just got to got to work on uh work on the the the realism of um I cut I can't do it all. But yeah, I am just about to go and um take a little look see at my Marks and Spencer's Apple crumble that may have come home with me. Um another another overpriced high fibre liquid. Um, but anyway, I I we wish you uh the greatest of days, uh weeks, whatever it is that you're doing. Go smash it and um as always look after yourself. Thanks for listening to the pod, and we'll see you next time. See you next time. Bye.