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Ep32. Goals, Pitbull & a personal reset

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In this episode, Laura and Sarah talk about how heat affects motivation and training, why boredom and downtime can be good for mental health, process-focused fitness goals and simpler routines. As well as innovations in women’s health diagnostics and the growth of inclusive, female-focused strength spaces

Chapters:

00:00 - Intro and heatwave chat

11:11 -Training without pressure

22:13 - Women’s health diagnostics

47:19 - Balance, pause, and boredom

54:47 - Doing nothing and digital detox

68:55 - Closing reflections


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SPEAKER_02

Hello and welcome back to Fit for What, a no-nonsense evidence-based take on health, fitness and wellness with humour, honesty, and some practical advice to hopefully help you build your fittest year yet. My name is Laura, and this week I have shriveled into a tiny ball of flames that is constantly attempting to squint and really asking myself why I feel so absolutely sleepy, but it is because in my own country I am being roasted alive.

SPEAKER_01

And my name is Mrs. Worldwide, sometimes known as Sarah. Mrs. Worldwide! And I don't think it was. You do know it really. And I honestly don't think I can love pitbull any more than I do right now. Um in my spare time when I'm not Mrs. Worldwide, I am also women's health coach, PT. And I am so cooked. I'm bored of talking about it. I feel like it's become my whole personality. But I've actually really I'm actually getting quite angry about this heat now, and that that's the that's the that's not a good place to be, is it? That's not a good place to be.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I I I also am a personal trainer. I've I forgot to say that in as I was so focused on the temperature, but I get it, like it has been obviously um for those that have listening to each of the pods, we've talked the last couple of pods about the heat and what it does to your motivation, what it does, you know. I've we all feel like we've probably gained 100 stone. Um, my motivation to hit the gym wasn't high in the first place, sadly, and it's even worse. But yeah, it's it's it has uh we're just not a country set up to deal with with this level. But I so on the subject of obviously the very important subject of pitbull. Yes, I'm now going to ask you to name in 30 seconds his top five songs go.

SPEAKER_01

Five ball, everything tonight, gasolina gasolina, are you sure?

SPEAKER_02

It's a gasolina, is it daddy Yankee? Oh it's pit bull and daddy yankee.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, I'll take it back, I'll take it back. Um on the floor. They he did a version last night without the J-Lo. I thought he'd bring the J-Lo track in, no J-Lo. Timber with Kesha, Kesha and Pitbull performance.

SPEAKER_00

Is on the floor the Vegas to I beat her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Um oh my god, he did sorry, Vegas to Africa. Dale.

SPEAKER_02

I thought you were gonna say it.

SPEAKER_01

No, Vegas to Africa Dale. And then he did a song. I think it's quite new for the World Cup about raising the flag, and it was just wholesome. Make sense. Well, the DJ between him his songs, I think he probably did about 10 tracks. No, he was. Yes, he's only got 10. He was on for about 90 minutes, honestly. But the DJ between his like he went off and did his little outfit. Can I just say the dances were absolutely phenomenal and stunning, and oh my goodness. Um, but the whole experience, I think it has been, it's my favourite concert experience to date. I that's cool. It was honestly like I I like we were all just stood there, and I we it was just like it was such great vibes. Like, we were all stood there looking like absolute morons in our ball caps and goatees. I lost three goatees that night because I was sweating so much. Thank god I had my spare goatees with me. I literally just walked to the station and it just flew off in the window. So number one's gone. Then we tried drawing it on, that just sweated off. So we then ended up kind of drying out and putting some more goaties on. But it was just such a great vibe. Like there was no, you know, you sometimes go to gigs and people get a bit too drunk, none of that. It was like after you, after you, dancing with random girls, taking photos on the disposable cameras. It was just like so fun, and I think because like it was the quickest I've ever got ready to go out. I literally like finished work yesterday, stick my ball cap on, put a white shirt on, put my shorts, and off we went. I was I was ready in 20 minutes. Like, I I actually it I think it added an element of like joy to the evening because I just didn't care what I looked like. It was just so funny. But honestly, I we like because we we didn't pay, I think we paid like 120 quid for the ticket. So it wasn't cheap, but it wasn't like stupid, stupid. I think the VIP was like was stupid stupid. But um, we literally said before, I was like, I'm glad we've done this, but I don't think we'll do this again. Me and my best friend who I went with, we got out often and I was like, no, on reflection, I definitely pay to see him again. Like it was just like so much fun. Like, even if you weren't a pitbull fan, like the whole vibe and like the DJ could be I think you would have actually had a really great time.

SPEAKER_02

It takes if I don't like something, I can't pretend that's a real sad sadly. I can't, I just I will just be stiff as a board and just be like, I'd like to go home now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, unless that DJ played some drum and bass. Well, it was honestly, but Tiny Temper as well. I was just saying sorry before we started. Tiny Temper, there was who else was on? There was someone was on at four, and I was like, that's too early. Then we got there for 5 pm to do the world record attempt for the most ball caps in one spike space, which they got for 22,000. 22,000 ball caps. That is stupid.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, guys, if you're listening if you're listening to this, I'd love to hear your thoughts and feedback. And do you know what I said to Sarah? I was like, I love how much you love it, but just humour me for a second. Is Sarah, does she need to really consider some life choices here? Uh or am I just do I just need to loosen up? It's probably I think it's that. I think that's the answer. I think we know.

SPEAKER_01

I was saying that I like I I was teaching on Thursday at the gym, and I was like, guys, I put Pitbull on in on the on the playlist. And some of them were like, Why is Pitbull on the playlist? And I was like, Well, I'm going to see Mr. Worldwide tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02

So you turn it on everyone else, Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

Everyone was so excited. This is what I was expecting. And like some of them I was like, Do you know who Pitbull are? And they're like, Do I know who Pitbull is? So he's but I was a mate, there was such a wide range of ages there, like there were some girls there, and I was like, You guys must have been like in utero when he was out, like that you they were so young, but then there was like people in like their 50s and 60s there, it honestly, it was just so silly. I think that's what was so and like Jack Remington, who we love, obviously, he was kind of the one who orchestrated the whole thing. We saw him walking around, he just seems so tough with himself. But honestly, like I'm on a high phone, I was absolutely cooked this morning. I think we've done like 25,000 steps there yesterday, and like obviously it was so hot. Um, but I've just been on the electrolytes and chilling today. But yeah, it honestly I was my it's one of those things, it's like a core memory. I feel like that's a real core memory, like locked in now. So no, it was great fun. Really, really enjoyed it. Love you, Mr. Morgan.

SPEAKER_02

So I I can laugh and and sort of make jokes, but my one of my favourite core memory concerts, uh which I queued up um with some girlfriends from school. It wasn't that long ago, but it was with some girlfriends from school was to see Take That at Wembley. And we we queued up for so long that we and then you run to get close to the bit at the front. Yeah. So we were at the bit at the front, and we were having the greatest time. And sadly, I'll cut this, I'll make this a long story short. There was a large woman next to us who had 100% shit her pants. No, no, I know that you probably weren't expecting me to say that, but she shit her pants. And I I'll tell you how I how the reasons how I know because she um she stank for the first one, and my friend Alice, who is she she was like shouting, can anyone has anyone shit themselves by any chance? She knew that she had, but she was trying to out this woman because she didn't, yeah. She so Alice was being irritated. I was so felt so awkward, and she's like, has anyone shat themselves? Because it stank so bad. And my other friend Sophie was like her lit, like dry wretching because it smelt like shit. But we yeah, basically, so but we had cued for hours and we weren't moving. No, and then this woman, I think she stuck I could see that she was like trying to turn and like look, and she sort of got her friend to look to basically to see if it had gone through her jeans. And then she took her jumper off, it wasn't these temperatures, she took her jumper off and wrapped it around her waist cover because it had gone through her jeans, and then she kept spraying impulse near the near the the behind. Yeah, so basically, so we were subject it was it was the funniest because we'll always go. Do you remember that woman we went to that take that concert and the fat woman next to us shit herself? That's that's what happened.

SPEAKER_01

And do you know what? Looking back, I feel bad for her. I do, because do you know what I was thinking that yesterday? I thought we kind of like we were quite tactical with our toilet breaks, and I was like, look, let's go to the toilet now so we can get we've got time to get nice and close to pitbull. But I was thinking like I I'm not going to toilet now. Like if I need a wee, yeah, I've got to suck it back up or if if we we we we if we we we we you know you know it's it's it's what pitbull would have wanted.

SPEAKER_02

It's what pitbull would have wanted, and I did think the goatee's gone, I pissed myself.

SPEAKER_01

Piss myself, you know. It was on my radar, I thought, I'm not moving from this spot now. So yeah, if if needs be, needs be. But I was actually thinking because I think a lot of my friends I've got a couple of my friends who are like really, really into like concerts and music and and kind of they'll they'll cue like you did for take that and just hang on, hang on.

SPEAKER_02

That's that was as long as it was a while ago, okay. Uh wouldn't do that today. Wouldn't do that today, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like a friend of mine, for example, would would like camp to get like a front line at Beyonce, for example. She'll she'll cue for hours and hours. I just thought I don't trust my bowels enough to ever do that or my bladder because I just don't think I would be I don't think I could stand there and enjoy a concert if I pooped myself.

SPEAKER_02

But well, you'd hope not. And I felt for her because she had a teacher, she had her top was like Gary Barlow, she's like I love you, Gary. Like when Gary came, she's like, I love you, Gary. Yeah, she was she wasn't moving because she wanted to see Gary, but unfortunately the rest of us her bowels were moving, that's for sure. They were moving, she was that excited. So yeah, I've struggled I really struggle with um those uh camping is no, Glastonbury is no, you know, just things like that where I'm just so you just gotta stand there. Yeah, yeah. I guess in the spirit of um of being fit, 30,000 steps, you were you were fit for yeah, we've got to do it, you know. We've got to have a bit of whimsies. I've been talking about being whimsical a lot in fitness events. Yeah, yeah, defo. Just like we've gotta do a bit. Not every not every weekend needs to be, oh I'm doing my zone two. Well, I can do my zone two at a pit bull concert, actually.

SPEAKER_01

I I very much did, I think. I think I I wish I'd put my garment on because you should jumping. I was jumping and I was really quite impressed with my pelvic floor as well. I thought, well done, your rehab is paying off as well. So it was actually it felt like a fitness event, it really did. What about your calf saying today, no? My volume, my ankle. I thought, do I send Danny my also this video of me dancing to fireball and saying this is where the instance happened? Because my ankles this morning are a little little bit angry at me, but was it worth it? Yes, it bloody well was worth it. I had the best time ever, and yeah, honestly, I agree. I think life can be so serious, can't it, sometimes? I think that's why yes, they felt so nice. I think the world has been so stressful, and I think obviously this heat sounds really dramatic, but I think it has genuinely really stressed. Been cooked to life. But it was just like everyone just had a great time yesterday, so yeah, definitely be less serious sometimes and just stick a ball cap on.

SPEAKER_02

100% straight S to pit balls. I could never, but I get it. Thanks. If I took into someone like that, would you would you suck it up? Oh, yeah, well, yeah, but I'd struggle, I'd struggle. Do you know what I'd do? I don't I genuinely I do. I just thought about it. I'd wear some really big dark glasses so that it wasn't obvious how much I was having a lot of.

SPEAKER_01

I had danced on the whole time yesterday, it was great. Yeah. Makeup on, go to an A vape to answer it was phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02

I I mean who knows? Maybe I'd finally for once in my life loosen up, but it reminds me when I went to a um I went to that a dancing event with Kara. Do you remember months ago at that wellness day? Yeah, it was like it was like, you know, just random, I don't know how to describe it.

SPEAKER_01

It was like spiritual movement, wasn't it? It's like movement.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't a two-step, it wasn't a skank, I don't know how else to move. I I moved to drum and bass, I moved to garage, I moved to house music. I don't understand what any of this is. And I stood there after for five minutes and Carl was like, You're hating this, aren't you? And I was like, Yeah, and then actually I did I did sort it out. So I don't know, maybe I hate I it annoys me that why I'd be so what's wrong with me? Like grow up, love. It's still only a fucking concert. But I just I really struggle with things like that if I don't like it, obviously. But I didn't well, I didn't go to a concert, um, but this week I did go to something similar, the fit a fitness concert. Um, yeah, I went to a new gym uh in London Bridge called Pace Club, um, which as yeah, they've got a few around Europe, and this one in London Bridge is basically thinking about it in hindsight, in a heat wave, did I want to go and work out with 45 other people in a no air con studio at 730? No, it didn't. It was a massive fan though, like a huge, huge, huge, like the size of the of the um what do you call it? Under the railway, an arch, that's it, a railway arch, it was a huge, huge, huge. It was like proper disco lights, and I arrived and I immediately felt highly over overstimulated. And someone looked at me and said, Would you like a uh a new tonic? And I said, Yes, and and drank that. It was an error. My sleep was uh atrocious, my resting heart rate was a maza, but anyway, so yeah, I went to that, did a higher arts class, which was cool. Um my friend Naomi uh ran the event, which was nice. I saw a couple of people I haven't seen for a while, but honestly, it was like just sweat in everywhere. I was literally, I was on the treadmill, and I was like, actually, this feels a bit dangerous. I'm sweating so much on the treadmill. This is everyone's feels a bit yeah, it feels a bit slippy. Just the sweat was mad. We just what can you do in those temperatures? Washington, yeah, um sweaty that's what I said. That's what I said. Not even a sweaty much person. So at the end, every yeah, everyone looked uh um a madness at the end. And this one woman came up to me, you don't even look like you've done anything. That's because of my hair. It doesn't say this.

SPEAKER_01

Very good at masking anything underneath it. It's a real No, but if you were to put your hand behind my neck, like a lovely.

SPEAKER_02

I was all there, but I did that, it was it was good, it was good, and I am delighted to share with the pod after weeks of moaning externium, moaning to Sarah that I don't really know what I'm doing with my training, and blah blah blah. I did a strength session today. Yeah, I actually did it. So I went uh got up at silly o'clock this morning because I had a uh a friend's uh date to go and sit by the pool at 10:30. And I was like, right, I'm gonna go and do this programme that I'm paying for that I haven't done much of. Yeah, I'm gonna go and do it. And the best thing happened as I got there to the squat racks, three I would say middle-aged women rocked up to the other squat rack and they and they were doing sets of back squats together.

SPEAKER_01

No, that is so lovely and rare. And well, and well, good form.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, did you say it done?

SPEAKER_01

Do you say hiya?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so I was just doing my own thing, but what I do is if I'm on a rack next to someone, I think this is from years of of uh training in weightlifting gyms. Yeah. If someone is going in weightlifting gym, the etiquette I find that is appropriate is if someone is going up to a working set and you're gonna do it a max or or whatever, you wait and you stand and you give them the time, they do their lifts and then everyone carries on. Yeah. So that it's a bit tennis vibes, right? When someone's on, yeah, you can't. And and I just think from that, and from obviously uh my my sort of career with being a PT, I like to, as someone goes to do a set, I like to just wait and respect the set. And I've got half an eye on it from afar, I'm not staring, obviously, but got half an eye, and when they've done it, I've given them the nod. They've they've acknowledged the nod. I've then done my power cleans, they're looking at me, they're doing the nod. So we'll yeah, did three did three by three power clean still have you no? Oh my god, she's back. But no, I'm not back, I'm so not back because my thumb hated it. I tried to warm up with some um overhead squats and I I just can't, I can't grip. It is what it is, but power clean, I just I could just about do it um just sort of catching in in my in my palm. I mean I didn't go very heavy, I'll be honest, but it just felt nice to grease the groove again and and get back in. But yeah, and then at the end I they finished and I said, nice squatting girls. And they were like, Oh yeah, we we we don't we can't get as low as you and I said nope, you don't need to. I said I said you were you moved with control, it looked good, you looked like it was challenging, you had good rest. I said, No, no complaints from me. And then they were asking, oh, how do you do how do you do the cleans? And I really struggle with front squats, and then so I gave I showed them how to do the uh straps. I'm I'm doing this as an audio podcast, but just for for the audio as you're listening, what I'm doing is I'm miming to Sarah that I'm grabbing some straps on the barbell, which is um which you can do to help with your your front rack. And then we were sort of like Bessies throughout the gym, and I went to the hamstring curl, and they were on the pull-up machine, and it was just so lovely. And I was just like, I wanted to go, girls. Where do you who taught you? Like, what programme are you following? Do you do this every Saturday? Like they were wearing Metcons, they were just great. They were just I know it was so lovely. So I had a really good time, and I felt so good that I'd got up and that I'd done it. Um and yeah, as we one of the things one of my topics for the pod today is just around yeah, find finding a bit of rhythm and and and goal setting. So I'm I'm delighted to do that. But obviously, yeah, I've been sunbathing for the rest of the day, I've been horizontal, chat chat, chat, putting the world to rights with my friend. And one thing I will say um that it the heat has got to Jillie Hoggins, it's got to my mum because I tried to ring her earlier and she didn't answer, and I don't like it when mum doesn't answer her phone, and I rang dad instead, and a rare occasion dad answers first time. What had happened is mum had put her phone in the fridge. I mean it got to that point where we're thinking about just putting our shit in the fridge. I I'd put myself in the fridge. Actually, I did see did you see that on Instagram? Some it was a man that got uh caught and it he hid in his fridge.

SPEAKER_01

No, he's hiding in his fridge. No, no, that scares me. Yeah, no, honestly, my phone, my phone's not coping, my laptop's not coping, I'm not coping.

SPEAKER_02

No, you know what?

SPEAKER_01

I've been because I I I like a really crispy cold diet coke, even though I literally just said to Laura before we came on the screen. I was gonna say, hang on a minute, you just told me you were trying to get off it. Trying to try and cut down the Diet Cokes anyway. I like it really, really cold. My fridge isn't bad, but it's not crispy crispy. So I tend to put my Diet Coke in the freezer for a pre-drink chill, like a total chill. And I think I've lost I think I've lost three Diet Cokes this week to explosions in the freezer because I've just got them and they just go you leave them too long, too long. So yeah, that's I mean that's how my brain feels this week. But how are you gonna get off the Diet Cokes then? And why are you coming off them? Do you know what I've been really thinking about I d I think it is the heat. I've just felt really, really bloated. This is a really like an internal monologue I've been basting with this week. I've just not felt great in my mainly in my stomach, if I'm honest with you. Um and I think underlyingly underlyingly, that is not a word, um, there's definitely some underlying um let's say mental health issues going on there from from my experiences, what I do in terms of work, but also from lived experience and and investigate investigate. Oh my god. Investigative. Investigative.

SPEAKER_02

Is it are you talking are you talking like gut microbiome?

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm talking more kind of endometriosis, adyosis. This is where, and I think I'm kind of really building a strong case now to really push this because it's it's a very as we know, it's a very, very actually this brings really very nice onto one of the things that's happened this week in the world, but um we know it's a really, really difficult diagnosis to get, and especially something like adiosis, where it's built into the uterus, into the um into your uterus' lining, that can be especially hard to diagnose. Anyway, I have feeling this stuff going on there, which is something for me to investigate privately, and I need to go down that route again and actually really build a case there because I've kind of got down the process sometimes, and they do one scan, it's like, no, can't see it, and it's just that actually, no disrespect to these practitioners. I just don't think they're skilled in that way to view this kind of tissue. Anyway, that's another story. But I am aware that I want to try and bring my inflammation levels down just generally through food and diet and nutrition. And I'm just aware having a number of carbonated drinks each day probably isn't doing my gut the world of good. Okay. So it is a gut thing, you think? Health, yeah, just inflammation, feeling a little bit just to be honest with you, gassy and bloated, which I don't think the heat helps with. It definitely doesn't. But yeah, I'm just aware I drink a lot of Diet Coke and I love it. And I don't drink alcohol, blah blah blah blah, don't do all that kind of stuff. But I just think actually I could very easily cut this out, and I probably should because I used to go there's a period of time where I've given up for Lent and stuff, and actually, once I've done the first week or so, I'm I don't even think about it. But I think again in the heat, you are just grabbing for anything cold, aren't you? Like literally, I'll drink anything that's cold at the minute. So um yeah, that I would happily sit in the fridge. But yeah, talking about endometriosis whilst we're on the topic, I don't know if you saw on the um, I think I sent it to you actually. There's you did.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say, yeah, you sent it to me, and I was like, okay, who's behind this?

SPEAKER_01

And then we didn't really talk about anything else. And to be honest with you, full transparency. I don't feel like I've done enough research into it to kind of talk about it as a full topic say, but I wanted to touch on it because it is really, really important. Um basically, nice. Um, what does nice even stand for? I always just refer to them as nice stand for. Nice stands for the National Institute of Health and Care Excellence. That's what it stands for.

SPEAKER_02

Why is it not NAHICE?

SPEAKER_01

They didn't want to do health. Yeah, they're like, skip that. But um they've basically come out this week recommending two screening tools for endometriosis um to be used across primary care, and obviously um that would be your GPs in the world of the NHS. So basically, it's a tool for your um GPs to be able to use to try and help um people then screen for endometriosis. There's two options that have come out recently. One is a saliva test, which is very interesting. So these are both non-invasive. So the idea here at the moment is that's the key, really, there, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

It's like anything non-invasive, bring it on. It sounds cheap as well, saliva test. Exactly. Verse I've just got to lick the doctor, right?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Just lick your GP. But um, so it's a saliva test, and there's also then, so that's one of them, it's a saliva test. I think the result from what I've seen of kind of the the data around it, they seem pretty accurate. Obviously, it's done on quite a small population. Again, we haven't got enough data to make really strong conclusions from. But touch woods so far, they seem to be really good indicators to what's going on. So, yeah, one is a sliver test, and one is a functional gut um test. So you take it, you do it kind of on a um empty stomach. You couldn't do it on your period, you have to be kind of it'd be a specific day of your cycle that you do it on, but it's basically it'll be assessing the electrical activity between the gut um and the pelvis, basically, which can again be a really key indicator of what is going on in that area. So, really, really, really, really cool breakthroughs here. Um and I'm I would I want to do some more um research into so that I can actually talk about this in far more detail.

SPEAKER_02

It's so mad, isn't it? Because we know that the average period of time to get someone diagnosed is eight, what is it, eight years or something? Yeah, eight, eight to eight to ten years, and also just like the the stress, because also if you're if in in a woman you probably start to see it at some point in your twenties, getting diagnosed at some point in your 30s, it's like it's too late. Yeah, it's like what the hell? And yeah, the the amount of effort, sadly, you know, we big up the NHS, you know, the the workers of the NHS, but it it doesn't it it's not fit for purpose. We know this.

SPEAKER_01

No, and that's that laproscopy, which is the kind of gold standard, it's traumatic, it's traumatic, but also the waiting list, like people just can't be seen in a in a reasonable amount of time, and often, like I've had for full um disclosure, I've had a transvaginal scan done a number of times to check for endometriosis tissue. But sadly, I think, and again, this is no dis against the NHS, they just haven't got the skill set. You can't be a specialist and everything, it's literally impossible. These people who are doing the transvaginal scans, I'm sure are fantastic at spotting for other things. But if you're not if your eye isn't isn't kind of specialised in spotting that kind of tissue, you wouldn't know. So you could get your spot yourself, and I I kind of felt very lucky at the time to be able to even access those kind of scans through the NHS, which again I waited years for to then come back with actually suspected tissue, but we don't really know, and that's where it was left. And again, that's on me for not chasing up further. But that took me years to even get to that point. So if we can actually get this in our in our primary care setting, we can actually get a good idea of okay, maybe these are indicating that you could potentially have endometriosis. Let's get you into the secondary care now. But um, yeah, I think it's I think it's a great step in the right direction, and I think a very fair point that I saw on this, which is totally valid, is obviously sadly already those waiting lists for secondary care are so long. Are we just gonna see sadly an Eve ever kind of growing list of people wanting secondary care understandably off the back of primary care? But I think it's a step in the right direction if we can have non-invasive, non-stress-inducing testing to give people the idea.

SPEAKER_02

At least people know. I think that's the thing. It's like I just want to know, otherwise, you'll you feel like a personal fate. I mean, fortunately, I I I don't have personal experience uh in this, but having worked with such a large population of women and you know, just discussing this with with you and some other close friends, is so traumatic, and it's just like it feels like a personal failure. And how do we get to this point where we don't know? Yeah, it's uh it's absolutely mad. It's it's absolutely mad. So, yeah, I I hope to see more investment in those things and sort of female FEMTech, I think they they call it journalistically, is uh lots of um investment behind sort of female fertility apps and tracking and all of that. You know, the the only tracking app I remember years ago is My FitnessPal, and that didn't have anything to do with your cycle, it's just how much was how many calories was my diet coke? But speaking of Diet Coke, I actually this is not huge news, but I'm delighted to share that I've now signed up to my first subscription, which I don't know if is good news, but I have been having a lot of trips, and because I am um money saving expert or trying to be in my money saving expert financial era, I thought, well, instead of paying £2.50 every other day and being delighted with myself, why don't I go on a subscription? And that is the way forward. So I'm now going to be the proud owner of 24 Apple Blossom Trip cans every four weeks.

SPEAKER_01

That is fantastic. £24 over, but then you're do you have one every day? I could now.

SPEAKER_02

No. Yeah, now that it is cost effective at just over £1 per can, life is is good again. But um it made me it made me think because I've not obviously, you know, in the the job that I have, my sort of my day job, let's call it with In Sports Nutrition, subscription modelling is huge. And we've seen brands like IM8 that have been a D2C first brand that are slowly starting to increase their distribution uh globally in the in the UK and US. If you haven't heard of IM8, it's literally the the what the letter I, letter M, and then the number eight, David Beckham's backed it. It's got a huge team behind it, and a huge amount, I would say I think it's something like 70% of their sales go through on subscription. And I just think it's it's like we're it's like this sort of cons, you know, the consistency of the engaged user of you just sign up for this thing, you get it, you use it, you know, it's sort of this self-perpetuating cycle. And I've not I'm not a voucher girl, I'm not a subscription girl, I'm just raw dog life. I don't sign up to any of these things, and it is my first subscription apart from my whoop, which I guess is a subscription, but it drew me to start to think about the way in which people are searching for product recommendations, and I hope she doesn't mind. But my my friend that I was talking to today uh at the pool for for hours, she said that she went, she said, I went down a hole, like skincare hole last night, and I lost 200 quid to a load of skincare that I I needed. And I said, Okay, talk me through it. What did you get? She listed off. I said, Who's recommended this to you? And she said, Chat GPT. She's she's she has told Chat GPT, she she said she uploaded a picture of her face and her hair and has said these are the products that I use, but I'm feeling it's she just she just doesn't feel like it's working for her at the moment. What else? And should that Chat GPT came back, said no, because of all the I'm not gonna name the name because I'm going into real detail here of who my friend is. She's just had a chemical pill and she has loads of them. And she said, because of all the stuff she does on a skin, what she's using is too hard. And I was just sat there, like obviously, I think she's amazing, and I will just go, yes, absolutely, do that, Queen. Pop off. She bought it at 1am. But I'm like, it just makes me think about how we're utilising AI, which I've I really am keeping at arm's length as a from I'm a person, I'm an in-person person. I will never gonna I say this now, I'm never gonna use AI to build anything for my work. I do think it can help with organization and some creative thinking at times, but that's as far as I'm taking it at the moment. So anyway, I was thinking about the world of sports nutrition, and I was like, well, my friend just got lost down a chat GPT hole, lost 200 quid, and was recommended by her phone a whole new regime. And what we have seen in the UK is the evolution of grocery shopping. And we've talked about this before, and I've highlighted this around GLP1 as changing people's eating habits, and people are eating less. Well, I know they're eating less cheese because people's hunger is now slightly different, and people are starting to consider what's gonna be good for them, like the micronutrients, but isn't gonna make them too full, uh, etc. And now in everything is inflation, the cost of goods, blah blah blah, all the reasons people are now utilising AI to help them with their weekly shop to try and search for the greatest value. And what it's also doing is it's saying, so you could put in as a prompt, this is one of the examples that they used. I am a mum of a family of two under 10, um, and I would like some great meal ideas, uh, good value meal ideas. What ingredients do I need to buy? So the Chat GPT has come back and gone, here's three great meals that you can repeat in different ways over a week. Here's the best value products, and it here's your basket. So, what it's doing is it's removing, I think, the impulsivity of shopping because you're now listening to Claude or ChatGPT.

SPEAKER_01

Using Claude for that because I'm not gonna lie, like we I would say in my household, with we are we do an online food shop, I'd say every 10 days. That's how that's how we work. Like we used to do gusto, but now we kind of just do our own thing. And I must say, I dread, and the only thing I dread about that is coming up with meals. Yeah. And I've got books in front of me, but I just don't think to actually go and look, and it's it's a time thing for me. I'm like, I feel like I'm wasting time doing this. So we end up repeating a lot of meals, which I don't mind doing in some respect, but I hadn't even thought of doing that.

SPEAKER_02

So from my back in the days of when I used to work um in grocery retail many, many years ago, that is statistically true that the average UK house, I mean, this is going back 15 years, it may have evolved now, but the average UK household, uh, sort of, you know, you know, average uh income, etc., they go through three meals a week. They cycle three meals.

SPEAKER_01

Seriously? That's yeah, I yeah, I probably yeah, we probably should have. Or a variation of them. Yeah, I we've always got some kind of like pokey bowl or like fish bowl with rice and veggies. There's always it's mainly chicken, we mainly eat chicken in the house anyway. But I was really lazy. I literally turned on a card and was like, they've got like three for 12 pounds on different forms of chicken. And I was like, I have a peripar chicken, I have an Indian chicken, I have but also with the heat, I'm like, I just need easy meals. But that's yeah, what a great idea. That's a real toy. I guess you can then just like download that into your notes page or whatever to then.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you just literally go and buy that stuff, or it'll tell you, yeah, here's the list you can buy online. Wow, because here here's the best value places to get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so yeah, I've me me and AI, I don't know yet. I I you know I'm uh I'm I'm stiff at the best of times, I so I'm not sure about that. So, but I do I it will it will evolve, it will change the way people people buy things. The other thing I saw this week, um, which is uh it makes me sad a little bit because um I had some sort of industry peers who I I I respect highly, uh Sam and Leanne, who if you're listening to this, you may know their their gym um in East London, Strong Her, which is when I read this article, I was like, that's what Sam and Leanne had, you know, to a certain extent. So what we've what we've seen in the US is called Lift Her, so not Strong Her. Uh Lift Her is a women's only strength studio uh in Dallas, uh in the US. Um, and apparently it is the brainchild of the former franchisee of Orange Theory, um, and and another group uh of people. One's a a global Nike uh trainer, but essentially it's uh a room, 14 women, each stationed at their own weight rack, um, and they go through a you know a a good appropriate SNC uh program, sort of general population uh that can be tweaked. Um, and they also have um and when I read this, I was like, oh, okay, but actually no, that's great. They all receive DEXA scans. Saw that, yeah. To track their their body comp because as we know, when we are, you know, when we're coaching people, what we it's almost like you need to sort of get them bought in. Some people respond differently, right? But if if you are someone that is interested in seeing those results and DEXA scan is basically what's going on on under the hood. So we can train and you can feel a certain way, you can look a certain way, but actually, if what we're saying is, right, you've been training with us now for three months and you've completely re-comped your body for the better, for health, for for whatever, for your goals, no judgment. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

I agree.

SPEAKER_02

That's that's really cool. So yeah, I just saw that and I was just like, oh, I reckon we'll see more of this.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm just I can agree more. Yeah, I think that's really the way we're going now, and I think, yeah, what I mean, I I assume the price point for something like that is pretty high because of the kind of scale of it and the kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't say, but my assumption is it would be in the region, yeah, 250 plus. But I mean, this is the thing, isn't it? It's like how do you how do you scale something so wonderfully personalized? I mean, this is pr you know, this helps people stay out of the cost of of illness. Yes. So I think we need to reframe the cost of of of participant, even even for a short period of time where you learn like like these ladies that I witnessed in the gym today. I just gonna go, who taught you? Yeah, who taught you three the confidence? You're wearing Metcons, you're wearing you've got these gloves, like they're just set up and they were so they knew what they were doing. They were like, shall I put a five on? And oh, just loved it.

SPEAKER_01

That's so refreshing, isn't it? And I think we uh we are seeing more of it, but I think it is that kind of I think that will do, I hope, will do very well because like the value that you would be receiving from that is that you're right, like that's gonna that hopefully will stop however mem many members they have there having osteoporosis, having issues with body composition, having issues with yeah, like that is that's gonna add so much value and quality to their lives. Like what what obviously you need to be in a position to be able to afford that initially, but if you can afford that, then why would you ever stop? Like, I we I I was talking to um one of the um coaches this week at Barch about this. It's like we're gonna see people training in in the into their 80s, into their 90s in the gym now. Like, why would you stop if you can feel the benefits of that kind of training, especially in that kind of setting where it's tailored specifically to you? Why would you ever stop that? That will just become a a cost of living to you because you can see the value in that far more. So I think that's what I love the idea.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and and we're seeing it with loads of different like women's zones in gyms. Like, but you know, when I get asked about those things, I'm like, I'm interested to see how well utilised it is. And if it's well utilised, cool. Obviously, I think from my perspective and how I've sort of grown in the industry, I guess in more of a smaller member base, yeah. You know, I love the fact that men and women can train together, men, male coach, female coach, like uh equality for me is is really the goal. However, in bigger commercial gyms where you don't necessarily know the people that you are training around, I do think it could be appropriate to have an area that you feel you can go to and do your thing. And I mean, obviously, obviously it's working. Um, and yeah, one of the the the the the bottom line of this article that I was reading, it says as lifting goes mainstream, which I truly believe it is now, the future of women's strength isn't lighter weights, it's lower barriers. And I was like, Yes, why? I know so so that's that is that is looking uh looking really good. And I think you know, I I also think that you could have the best facilities in the world, and like me, I've got access to many a gym. I you know, you some would one could say I know what I'm doing, sort of, or you know, I've got access to to good programming, and still, and still you might get to the point where you're like, I don't know what I'm doing, I don't think I can be arsed today, and that is that is stressed me on a daily basis. Um and and yeah, I feel like I've I've said it a few times, definitely heard myself say it out loud since I've finished my my long runs. Obviously, I've worked towards something and I know I'm someone who has to have a goal, um, which is a gift and a curse in itself, because it's like, when do you ever rest, babes? I I don't know. And I had and I've been talking to the girls in the changing rooms at Jiu Jitsu. I'm like, I really feel like I should be back in the gym, but and they're like literally yesterday. One of the girls, actually, I was so happy. Um, this is gonna be a bit of a feels like a humble brag, but one of the girls, she's just turned a blue belt. She was like, I rolled with her yesterday, and she at the end of the session, she was like, You were I haven't rolled with you in a while, and you I could tell you were significantly better. She was like, You gave me so many more problems um there, and it honestly lit me. I was delighted, as you can imagine, if you know me well. I was so happy. I was like, really? Oh my god, because and then it just it struck me. I was like, it's because I've been doing this sport and I've got no idea if I'm doing well or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like good because I'm sort of I don't know if I'm doing well, so carry on. But I also need to know, am I doing well? And this stripe process in this sport is taking a long time. So the sport the sport is teaching me patience, but yeah, I don't really the the gym has you know always been my identity, like my my social media name, you know. I've I've named myself a muscle. So, you know, if I was to just stop training or stop strength training, I just that would not be me. It's not my identity, and I I do love it. I do want to get back into proper strength work, and I hope this morning's session has um reminded me. You know, I didn't wear my lifters, I didn't wear my knee sleeves, no belt, I'm just raw dogging it and just off I go, just start with the basics and uh you know, humbling myself. But yeah, obviously, yeah, jujitsu's been great for me in in many ways, but I can't do it all. If I'm doing four hours of jujitsu, it is physically stressful. Um, but yeah, it doesn't feel good. So I can acknowledge mentally I've carried a bit of load as well, a bit of stress. Like there's there is some current change for me and some upcoming uh future professional change I think is gonna be is gonna be really positive, but I just haven't had that space, I think, that is like my my gym that I just sort of I go without thinking, you know. So yeah, and I think we we talk a lot, don't we, about you know, when you reach your fitness goal, then what? Yeah, um so yeah, I I've sort of have I've done all of this and I can appreciate I've I've done well and I've put a lot of shift into my running and you know making progress in jujitsu, but now what?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I hear you. I think I've I you know I think I've actually felt really good since I've kind of I've now kind of readjusted. I think I just I'm the same as you. I think we both put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be performing at a certain level, and I think now I've just stripped it right back. I'm now programming for myself, just just because I just I think and Harrison's I was coaching with Harrison for a few months, he's a superb coach, great guy, really good at what he does. But I just for me, I've got so much going on with kind of buying property, exams, trying to build out business, number of businesses at once. Like it for me, I think it just adds. Added a level of stress that I just didn't need. And I think for me right now, I've just stripped my goals right back. All I want to be doing, and I'm I am hitting it. And I was actually it's funny you said this because I was actually reading about this yesterday when I was training. I have now took it taken it right back three strength sessions a week. If I'm hitting three strength sessions a week, I'm having a good week. And I think I've just kept right. I've just kept it as simple as that. Before it'd be like three strength sessions, then I used to do conditioning, then I used to do this, then I used to this. And it's like, well, actually, you're looking at like 10 sessions. When you're a busy person, that just isn't doable. And also, I think it creates such an element of mental stress and load, it kind of takes away some of the benefits of doing that level of training anyway. I was actually really fatigued, really not enjoying it. Find that I was dragging it and trying to find squeezing it into my diary. I was like, this is taking the joy away from it totally. Um, and something else that I've also really done is taking the stress and pressure off myself in terms of training in one space. So for me, this year I joined um a David Lloyd gym, which to be honest with you, I primarily use for my co-working space because it's got such a great co-working space. That's where I spend the bulk of my time working from. So it's been great in terms of and it's a lovely training space, lovely pool. There's some really great classes that I can hop into if I want to, but I think because there was such a huge offering there as well, I felt like I had to like do it all. I felt like I had to be strength training, be swimming, be going to all these classes, be doing the sauna. Yeah, and it's just actually I now this these last two weeks. I think obviously with the heat, we spoke about it. I I have kind of actively made that decision to take the intensity down. I know I'm not sleeping as well, I know I'm not recovering as well. But like this week, I had a great training week. I did a session on my own last Sunday morning, and it was Sunday morning gym, it hits different. I got up at like half seven, was in the gym by half eight, really peaceful, really lovely experience. So I had a great session on my own. Then I was over at Barch the other week, I had a couple of postnatal classes with a gap in between, and I thought, I'm just gonna jump into this class. Why don't I just jump into this class? And then I did a session the other day, just at this little gym pods place that you can just book in and pay for because it was closer to home. And I was like, great, I've done all of my three sessions and they've all been really enjoyable. They've been in different spaces. I'm not I'm not kind of putting pressure on turning up and and setting those goals in that one specific space, and I've just enjoyed it far more. I think goal setting can be so, and it there's so many benefits. We know we know the scientific benefits to setting goals a hundred percent, but I think when there's extra strain added to those, it can just make it feel ten times harder. And I think just by taking the barriers to entry down to those goals, they just feel so much more achievable, and so and as a result of achieving them, you then feel better for it. So it's like actually, let's just scale these goals back to where I can meet them right now. And I think I was setting myself unrealistic expectations to hit this really fantastically written programme for me because I basically turned around to Harrison, I was like, I'm so sorry, I can't do this program justice right now, like I haven't got the time or brain capacity to give this what it deserves. Um, and that was I hate letting people down. I felt like I was really letting them down, but actually, I feel like I'm training far better for it right now, and that's not to say that when I've got more brain capacity and more time, I won't go back to that kind of structure. But for me right now, my goals, I have just pulled right back, and I feel like I'm enjoying training far more for it. So, yeah, it's it's a it's a yeah, I think it varies so much. There's so we know there's so many different kinds of stresses and strains and what's going on in our lives and how how we can show up and how is the best way can we show up for ourselves? But for me, the best way I can show up for myself right now is just taking the pressure off, and I just really enjoy training when I'm when it's less pressurised, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Totally. I think we have to accept the different seasons that we're in and try not to force it otherwise. I mean, when uh Sarah you first uh met me, I was a militant five-day-a-week weightlifter. Yeah, I can't even imagine, I couldn't even imagine doing that now. And I I part of me does hope that one day I I go back to it because I had some great time. I loved it. I loved getting in, just getting on the rack and just warming up on the bar and just that whole process. It was like meditation for me until I got to the point where I just I needed, I needed, yeah, I just need needed a bit, a bit of a break from it. But yeah, when I I did some snatching before I literally an hour before I smashed up my thumb, um, I did some weightlift. I posted a couple of snatches on my Instagram story and I was like, oh my god, you're gonna come back to weightlifting and I don't know. I like I want to, but one when the time is right, I I will know. I think I'm just gonna build up some base. I'm gonna build up just some base. I want to be fit for jujitsu at the moment, and in my in my program currently, which is SNC for jujitsu, they've got obviously there are some Olympic lifts in there. Yeah. Um, so I'm just gonna try and ride a bit of hybrid. But one of the things just uh to finish off on this goal setting that I always find really fascinating, and we would apply this to our clients, is is there is so much evidence around the sort of the concept of sports psychology of how do you goal set? And people, you know, as I we would have had clients that have come to us or friends that have said, I want to let's say deadlift a hundred kilos. Yeah. Okay. So that that's the outcome. What do we have to do in the foundations to get there? Um, so yeah, so the outcome could be uh, yeah, you know, you you do you make it, you deadlift 100 kilos, but you can't fully control that because there's many factors that are in for you might be in great shape, you might turn out of today's day. I'm gonna deadlift 100 kilos and you shit yourself on the warm-up rep or that's a bad example, but you know, life happens, right? But if you just focus on the process of the goals, not necessarily just the outcome. So it's like saying I want to be a person that deadlifts 100 kilos. Well, what would a person that can deadlift 100 kilos do to get there? Cool. Well, they would strength train three times a week, they'd follow a progressive program that focus on hinge and blah blah blah, all of that. So for me, I'm now starting to talk to myself, and like it sounds like you are as well. Let's just focus on the process. What can I do today? I've started to think about my nutrition differently now. I'm trying to I'm trying to just unpick some things and go, what can I tweak here and what can I tweak there? But without really fully obsessing on it. And and like we say, you know, research in in motivation and behaviour change suggests that if you do focus on the controllable behaviours, um, there is better long-term adherence, which is obviously uh what we would want. So yeah, I think um yeah, the the jury's out on my programme, but at least I went and did it today, and I I did it to the letter as I do. If I'm gonna do it, I do it to the letter. Yeah, so time it's about and she reads it like a book. Yeah, I didn't I haven't yeah, I don't have my tripod, but I had it on I I like to tick it all off on it's the it's the the the process of yeah, I think I'm just very uh acclimatized through my years of uh following programmes, especially with my weightlifting training. Yeah done the plymetrics next. It's like a small bit of uh validation. And now I hear you, I'm the same. I'm like tick, tick, yeah, but I yeah, I certainly um yeah, I certainly need to force it for a bit anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I agree. And I don't I don't you know, I don't actually think I think I was talking to some members at the gym even the other week, and it's just that actually summer's a really hard time. Some there's loads going on. I think, especially if you've got kids and the summer holidays approaching, like there's so much going on. You're jogging childcare, you're juggling kind of broken sleep or whatever. I think summer is actually a really difficult time for people, and they can put a lot of pressure, especially with kind of going away on holidays and being out of routine, it it is a tricky time in terms of fitting in um I guess structured activity. But I think if we can it's the same as like we were joking about, but even like the what I did yesterday, I did 30, 30,000 steps yesterday, and I probably was in like a zone three at some times. Like, yeah, don't don't just take the pressure off. I think, and I say this to clients all the time like control the controllables. What can you do right now? Okay, you're away from home for the next two weeks. Do you want to train? Cool. Is there someone you can somewhere you can train? Cool, okay. Let's scale X, Y, and Z and just take the pressure off, take the kind of mental decision-making fatigue out of this and just go and enjoy it. And I think, yeah, for me, I think pressure obviously often conflicts with enjoyment, and I think probably a lot of people feel the same. So that would be my advice for anyone kind of struggling with goals right now. Is now a good time to be setting some really higher goals. If not, just find some kind of movement that you enjoy and can stick to a little bit more. And if you don't, it's not the end of the world. You'll as Laura says, sometimes you have to just force it a little bit more, and it will come, it will come, and you'll find forms of exercise that you do enjoy. But yeah, I think that brings me on quite nicely. I wanted to talk about um this idea of kind of being bored, and there's a really cool guy called Ollie Patrick, who's a physiologist. Um, he's involved in loads of stuff, isn't it? I I followed him. He's ex um he's ex-Harley Street.

SPEAKER_02

Is he? Yeah, so he's worked with loads of really high-pressured people in a variety of sort of I would say financial privilege, but yes, in in sort of yes, he's he's worked with a lot of burnout.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah, he's a really interesting guy, and he works, I think we touched on it last week, um, with lovely guy called Harry James, and they they've got an educational platform as well, don't they, where they do a lot of practice, big up, yes. So anyway, this guy's great, and he shares some really lovely um content on his social page. And I I saw, I was just scrolling through this week and I saw a post that he put that really caught my eye, and I thought, actually, this is something I can really relate to. Um, and it literally was called The Hidden Benefits of Doing Nothing, and he touched very much on the fact that we are so overly stimulated the whole time. Um, and yeah, I really, really uh really kind of caught my attention. I think this is quite a personal thing, but this week my partner's been away on a hiking holiday, and I normally have kind of contact contact with him constantly, whether we were at work or where we're kind of always kind of pinging messages back and forth from each other. He's gone away with his brother for a kind of remote walking holiday. Cool, great, lovely. Doesn't bother me normally, but I lost contact with him for 36 hours because he'd gone up into the mountains and I couldn't hear from him, and I was like, Oh my god, I don't like this. I don't like the fact I don't know where he is, and I can't contact him. And it really scared me, if I'm honest. And I we've been together for a long time. I'm I would describe myself as a very independent person, we're both very independent people within our relationship anyway. We'll go off separately all the time, doesn't bother us, but it really made me think I am so used to constantly scanning for information, whether it's about where friends are, what people are up to, what I'm up to, what am I doing next, what are we doing now, who have I seen, what's going on in the news. We're on high alert the whole time. And I I was like, oh my god, I can't remember the last time I sat down and was like, I'm bored, or like I've not got anything to do, or I'm not reading anything, or I'm not looking at anything. And and I obviously we've spoken about the kind of idea of burnout a lot on here and the idea of overstimulation, but I was like, it just really struck a call me because I was like, I've always got my phone in hand or a screen at me, or even like he kind of drawn the idea about making everything feel productive, and it's so true. Like, I'll go for a walk and listen to a podcast, or I've always got something going on, whether it's uh often it's a podcast related to my work, so kind of women's health focus, or I can kind of justify going out for walks. I'm like, well, I'm working still because I'm listening to X, Y, and Zen. It's like we just need to stop doing stuff all the time, like it's actually crazy. Our brains are just like on overdrive the whole time, and he made this really fair point that um basically when when our brain isn't focused on a specific task, we start to use a different network of kind of neurons and pathways in the brain that actually means that we can be more creative, we can be more thoughtful, we can be more reflective. But if we're not allowing that time for our brains to slow down, we're not allowing for any creative or consolidation thinking going on, and we're all making these decisions kind of off the back of stuff. And I think even my friendship with you, Laura, like you're so good at taking time to think about so you don't ever make reactive decisions, which is something I've really noticed about you. You will take information on and you'll always say to me, I'm gonna sleep on this, or I'm gonna think on this, and it's so needed, but I think we we associate that time out with kind of I'm gonna sleep on this, but we don't make time for that reflective thinking or slower thinking in our days. And I was like, Yeah, I never do that, I never kind of chunk out thinking time ever.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's it's mad, yeah. I I I think I saw someone else comment on that, and they were like, they said what they they do, um they walk around TK Maxx as their thing, as like they're just I don't even know, I'm not even looking for anything, I'm just walking around aimlessly. TK Maxx! Yeah, it was it was I think it was Andrew Tracy actually. I have to I have to fact check that before I tell everyone that Andrew Tracy walks around TK Maxx once a week. But he just said it was just something that he just goes and he just sort of w walks around and he's not looking for anything in particular, he doesn't have a time limit, and he just goes and has a look at stuff and he starts thinking about a few things and I like I find myself wandering around shops sometimes. Like if I'm coming on the way back from Jiu-Jitsu or something, if I'm around Clapham Junction, I've often ended up in like just walked around the runner's shop, had a little look. Hello everyone, okay, goodbye. You know, haven't bought anything, and I do think we do need some time. I think I'm definitely getting better at it. Like, I again, my friend who I was with um today, we were just hanging out by the pool. I'm very the last time we were there, we had another one of our friends there, and she was like, Me and this, my friend were pretty relaxed. I can't say her name out her for all the other stuff I've said. Anyways, we did that and um the the other girl, she was like sat on the end of the bed and she was like, Oh, I just don't really know, I don't really know how to just I don't know how you girls can just lie there, and I'm just not very good at just lying down and relaxing. I'm always doing something, and I sort of noticed the disconnect between her demeanour and her energy and mine, which is basically horizontal. So I do I do feel like in certain moments I'm really good at just yeah, my and I get that from my dad. Like many times I've looked at my dad throughout my life and gone, what are you thinking, dad? And he's gone, nothing. Oh I've gone, that's cool. Like, I just love yeah, I just love that. He's like, I'm like, really, nothing. He's like, nope, nothing. Um, and and you're right, you know, we're we're we've we've found we've layered and layered and layered all of these things in productivity and getting the most out of things, and yeah, we at some point we've got to lose we've got to lose the layers, otherwise we we don't have that. I find my my most creative time where I'm genuinely thinking the most is when I have my bath in the morning at like 5-6 am and that's where no one can touch me. Uh I don't mean to sound that like physically no one can touch me, you know what I mean. No one can uh I lock the door when I'm in the bath. No, it's it's one of those things that I'm just like no one's hassling me, my emails aren't popping, you know. Uh if you if you're a PT friend, you've probably text me something from the night before because you've gone to bed earlier, but it's um yeah, I think we need more of those times where there's there's a time of the day with no outcome or expectation, and we can just be um I'm definitely getting that from jujitsu. I'm getting it from my commitment to going in the sauna because they are both times where I can't have my phone.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's the thing, and I was thinking about that as well. I think I I think I am getting better at it, and I think I I do genuinely feel that my my whole demeanour is far calmer this year. Like I feel like I have really 100%.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think you you weren't bad you weren't ever not calm. I just think you were hot you were holding on to, you were having to perform over being stressed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I agree, and I think I have it's something that I've worked really hard on, even kind of putting days in my diary, like for it's for example, to say where I literally just made one plan this afternoon when I was in bed to go get my nails done, and that was it. I thought I'm just gonna go with the flow today, like and I need I need to get better at that. But it's even like I love the sound baths, I love the yoga, I love that, but I thought actually, I'm am I do I attach too much of an outcome to those activities? Am I like I'm going to this too de-stress? Do I just need to allow myself to just have more empty time in my calendar to just if I fancy something like that, rock up to it? Or yeah, I feel like I still put a lot of pressure on outcomes of things where I feel like I'm investing in my wellness. I'm like, well, I've got if I go to this, then I've got to feel better by the end of it. Whereas actually things like just having a bath, just get up early and have a bath in the morning where Yeah, I rate it. Yeah, it's and I do, and I think I that's genuinely one of the reasons I love swimming so much because I don't have anything, I don't have my phone, I don't have anything on me, and I I'm truly uncontactable. That but I think that's what made me think about this week with the fact that couldn't contact my partner. I was like, oh my god, we're so used to just being in touch with people all the time, and it really shocked me at how uncomfortable I was with that. I think from an obviously from a rational perspective, in terms of safety, yeah, didn't know what he was doing, blah blah blah blah. But actually, 50 years ago, six years ago, you didn't know what people were doing all the time, you didn't know where people you cared about or loved about were all the time, it's just the way it was. Like, understandably, you've been saying when mum doesn't pick up the phone show, you worry. Of course you do, but actually, 50 years ago you would have had the fridge, but you would have had to kind of put time in your diary to to speak to people or to be in touch with people, whereas because we have that ability to do it all the time now, yeah, we have lost that element of being bored and not doing stuff and not thinking all the time. So, yeah, I just thought it was a really well-written and really well-timed piece of um content on there, and I just thought actually, yeah, I think we all would benefit from actually being a bit more bored sometimes. So I really enjoyed that um find online for sure. My school teacher told me that only boring people get bored. My mum said my mum, so I also think my mum used to be. Maybe it's generational. Yeah, my mum used to all time. I'd be like, Oh, this is boring. She's like, No, nothing's boring. You're like you're and I she's could never say bored. I wasn't allowed to say bored at home.

SPEAKER_02

So oh god, you can't say bored to your mum, you can't say tired to me. What can you say?

SPEAKER_01

Nice joke.

SPEAKER_02

She's repressed, she's repressed.

SPEAKER_01

I can say dale, you can, but yeah, so but yeah, I just thought it was a really interesting reading. I thought, yeah, I like that, and it's I think obviously we spoke about like the longevity show. There's there's so much noise around wellness and productivity and biohacking, and actually, let's just shut up for half an hour a day and just be be quiet.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I had um a funny uh conversation this week with someone at the gym, uh this event I went to, and I mentioned that I was going to the Commonwealth Games, and they were like, Oh my god, congratulations! I said, What the fuck do you mean, congratulations? What do you think I'm going for? Jiu Jitsu, and it was just like a weird thing, and it was just like God, the you all you ought to everyone automatically assumes oh, I must be competing, or blah blah blah. And I said, No, I'm going to watch my mates. But it just it just made me laugh because I just thought, oh god, I'm so far, I'm so gonna be further from qualifying for anything in the Commonwealth Games. But thank you so much for your your um yeah, yeah, for that. I just absolutely cracked me up. I was like, no, but yeah, I've had loads of conversations recently uh just about this sort of focus on performance and you know the competing and da-da-da. And I do think it's great, I love it. I think it just brings out the best in people, but then it can just if you can't have that switch off or that element of do you know what it's not that deep. Um, like yeah, don't don't worry that your your snatch is a kilo off that other birds because it's really oh well at the end of the day they won't know how much you snatch, but they will know how you made them feel. That was deep. And on that note, did you see that? He just do he wants to talk. I didn't see that. The cat is about the cat is about he's he's yeah, he's ready for his uh matinee performance tonight. Oh here we come, he's come over.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's Auntie Laura Diego.

SPEAKER_02

Just yeah, you've I if you've been listening to this pod for a while, Diego is a shown pony in front of me. Um the last time I was around there, he jumped over my laptop about three or four. Oh, he looks hot, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_01

He's so fed up.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I just I feel so bad for all the pets. Big up the pets, get them in the fridge. Um on that note, my pit of the week. Obviously, I reached 33 degrees in my bedroom last night. It's absurd. That's that's a that's an all-time high. That is so bad. And when I got back into my car today, 44 degrees was the max. Was it? Yeah, 40. Yeah, I mean, I've got a black car that was sat in the sun for the best part of eight hours, but it was uh yeah, 44 degrees, so I had to open the windows and put the air con on, and I I'd only drove off when it went down to 32. But yeah, mad, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

It's insane. Yeah, I'm gonna say mine is exact same, same pit. Like, I feel like every podcast we do, we I just look sweatier and sweatier, sweaty. My skin. I feel so sweaty at the moment. My poor skin can hear it, but I can just feel it's like congested from just being probably the goatee stuck on yesterday probably hasn't helped my skin. No, I'm Just worth it. It was so worth it. But yeah, I just don't feel like I could be productive and I'm just seeking out so many coffee shops and so many AC units. It's unbelievable. I've never like who goes to the nail shop? I was always thinking, why would I go get my nails on on a s on a Sassai when it's this hot? Me, because I've got an AC unit in there and I've got to sit there for an hour. So yeah, I just think it's I I it's it's sad. I think it's actually made me think quite deeply about the state of the world in terms of environmentally as well. So it's just a bit, it's a bit scary that this is kind of becoming a bit too regular and a bit too normal. So yeah, that is my pit of the week. I just I just I'm and I'm a very clean, hygienic person. I don't like how it makes me feel. I just feel like I'm not the whole time. So um, and it makes me want to cut my hair off again. I'm gonna get my hair done next week. And I'm like, do I just chop it off? Because this heat is driving me insane. But obviously, it goes out saying my peak of the week was Mr. Worldwide. Yeah.

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Mr.

SPEAKER_01

Pitbull. Some of it there was do you know what the the highlight of my night though was do you have you seen on Instagram? Like he they people like clip up his like motivational speeches, it's the same ones on repeat. He's like, take it from a negative to positive. Like he'll just spew out all of these like motivational. Anyway, there's a girl in front of me at this concert, she's got a notes page open, and she's typing down his different speeches, and she's got like a full list, it's called like pit ball motivational speeches, and she's written about 20 down on her phone, and I just thought that is just delicious. And Laura's shaking her head, she's like, I don't get that.

SPEAKER_02

I just don't get it. I don't like the music, I don't know what it I don't understand how he could be motivational, but I'm really happy for you. I just loved him. I'm happy to be the miserable git that is doesn't get it.

SPEAKER_01

Odyssey, there's a lovely shout out, Wallace, who is a gorgeous, gorgeous member at Botch. And um, we were chatting about Mr. Worldwide, and um Laura doesn't get it, does she? And I was like, No, Mr. Wallace. Does Wallace like it? Wallace does like Mr. Worldwide, right? For sure. Just great vibes, great vibes. I'm gonna have to like exposure therapy with you. I'm gonna make you come to a pit bull concert next time. I know dream Hendo, like honestly, like if I can get a pit bull concert in my Hendo, I would be such a happy girl.

SPEAKER_02

What was your peak though, my love? My gym session this morning with the birds. I just had a great time. I just was so pr I was like really got into it. Yeah, yes, I'm back, come on, like yeah. So I just obviously I like going to the gym and I like feeling good as a result of going to the gym, and I just feel like it's a sign of self-respect and I get upset with myself if I'm not respecting myself because that's my time, and you know, yeah, I hear so that's my that's my theme of the week. Respect.

SPEAKER_01

Of the week, and with that we're going to leave you because the football is on is football ohm. I can't talk. The football is on in one hour 50 minutes. I need to have my dinner. I'm still loving these five.

SPEAKER_02

2-1, 2-1 England, Bellingham, SA Harland, 2-1 England.

SPEAKER_00

Do you think?

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Did you see Paul and Henson?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that was a madness. That is commitment to celebration, isn't it? Off the bench. Immediate surgery on his wrist from falling off the uh yeah, it's awful, isn't it? Absolutely awful.

SPEAKER_01

Mercury really is in the microwave for him, poor thing.

SPEAKER_02

I know, but uh well, when this podcast, when you're listening to this podcast, when it was released, the game will be over, so you will know the results. So just know that I have if I am Mystic Meg, if it is indeed 2-1, know that I we recorded this Saturday night. You're like the octopus, you haven't woke up octopus. Yeah, I do, I do, I do. I won't be right. I won't be right, but I just want to say it. What's your call then, octopus?

SPEAKER_00

Dali. Put it on the floor.

SPEAKER_01

Get on the floor. No, don't. It's such a banner. Um on that note, thank you so much for listening to us in this hot, hot climate.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, hopefully we've uh yeah, hopefully we've we've made entertained a couple of runs or or power walks probably now in this heat.

SPEAKER_01

Or just some sunbathing. Who knows? But thanks so much for your support and listening as always, and we will speak to you next week. See you next week. Bye.

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Bye.