What Were We Saying?
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What Were We Saying?
108: No Pockets In A Shroud - Old threads return. Nothing improves.
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Episode 8 of What Were We Saying? circles back to a few unfinished business items.
The guys provide an update on the mysterious Vervet Monkeys first mentioned back in Episode 1, before Tubesox unveils another carefully ranked Tubesox Top 10 - which is immediately subjected to scrutiny. Edgar’s Fun Facts returns with a pair of facts that may be genuinely interesting or completely unnecessary.
They also take a brief dive into the WWWS Mailbag, check in with “How Was the Movie?”, and, of course, deliver another edition of “3 Things That Can Kick Rocks.” Add in the usual banter and conversational wanderings, and you’ve got another episode that somehow covers everything and nothing at the same time.
Updates, rankings, facts, and grievances.
Just another day at What Were We Saying?.
Well, good evening. Hello. Or afternoon or morning, depending when you're watching this. Hopefully, you're watching it in the evening because that means you're tuning in to the live premiere, which is uh YouTube. Levels up on watching it after it's premiered because you can comment and hang out with us basically. But uh, anyways, welcome to what we were saying. I'm TubeSocks. I'm Big Yuke. And uh we are coming to you live on tape from the fifth floor of Blunderworks Studios in sunny downtown.
SPEAKER_04Great downtown. It's always sunny here.
SPEAKER_03Always. Uh shout out to Harold Winthrop and the Silver Astray Orchestra who played us in. Uh they also play us out. And uh this is interesting. You might uh well, I mean you know this, but I know. But the peeps might not know that uh Harold's got a really nice uh youthful tone to him, but he's uh he's 76 years old.
SPEAKER_04He looks both like he's 84 and 56, which is throws me off every time I see him.
SPEAKER_03But his uh the tones he's got there is nice, so and a big shout out to Edgar behind the camera, who Yeah Edgar hang out behind the camera. Um contributes in ways that he feels really helps. So it's a loose definition contribute, but you can't even catch a bottle. What uh what are we saying today? I got something to say for sure. Uh oh, before you say that, can we uh show off the private label beverages?
SPEAKER_02Who doesn't want to drink one of those?
SPEAKER_03Looks great on a beer bottle. Only the cool kids get to drink those because the cool kids are in the studio here. Yes, yes. You're all very cool because you're here. Very excited.
SPEAKER_02Very exclusive.
SPEAKER_04Yes, anyway, sorry, back to uh Yeah, it's something happened today, and that it's happened a whole bunch, and it just it pissed me off, and something I feel I have to just like discuss. I don't know about salty you, I'm not I'm familiar. Yeah. So it's not like a big deal, it's more like something that's just a minor inconvenience, but it's stupid annoying. So going to work, stop at a local coffee establishment, and I'm an iced coffee guy. And I know people would uh whatever, if that's what I drink, deal with it. And so I get my my iced coffee and I uh I I get to my office and I sit down at my desk, put my coffee down, grab my water bottle, fill it up, come back down, and there's there's droplets of coffee right next to my cup. I'm like, oh shit, is my cup leaking? Did I crack it or something? Because it's just flimsy plastic. It's flimsy plastic, absolutely. So I'm like, oh boy, maybe I cracked it. Lift it up, nope, okay. So I wipe that coffee, put it down, all good. You know, sign in, check the emails, go to grab coffee, take a sip, look down. There's another droplet. What is happening here? This is something that's happened before. And I look up on the lid, and it's all dry, except for one little spot. There's just this little driblet of coffee.
SPEAKER_03And it's hemorrhaging coffee out of that dribblet stuff.
SPEAKER_04And it's just like so it's coming off of there and it's dripping down. Like, well, how I don't know, it's not like there's a flow, so I don't know how there's this much coffee on my desk. So I wipe it, take my lid off, wipe the wipe it, put it back on, and sure shit, like three minutes later, there's more coffee on my desk. And so I don't know what what happened where these cups can't be designed to seal properly.
SPEAKER_03It's almost like it was drawing the liquid out of almost.
SPEAKER_04It was running it down the side. J just to piss me off. And it's something that I noticed it the other day too, so it's not like this is a one-off. In my car in the cup holder, I look and there's a droplet of coffee on my console. And I'm just like, I get this whole saving pennies thing when you're a big corporation, but really? A couple more pennies? Come on. And your cup ones suck ass?
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_04Ah, I'm sorry, but it just it got me going today, and I was already in a pissy mood because I don't feel great. I'm fighting it. He's got no breakfast buffets. He's got no breakfast buffets. The lazy river's closed here. It doesn't exist. It's frozen. Oh, I'm fired up. Holy shit. Riled up, and that just didn't. It was a pissy way to start my day. So be better, coffee establishments. God. But apart from that, things pretty good. Other than that, day was great, you know. Didn't have an influx of emails. No one was yelling at me at work, so that was fun. Oh my goodness. But that cup thing was dumb.
SPEAKER_03Pissed me off. I did not, uh Okay, I'm done. I was not ready for that, but that's good. That's nice. Good to get that off your chest. I feel better now. Off your ample chest.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that was yeah. That was dumb. Should I have a sip of beer? I'm gonna have a beer. You know what's not dumb?
SPEAKER_03This private label. Private labeled beer. You guys, I recommend it. Get yourself some labels and label up your own beer. Okay, so now that I've gotten that off my chest, you got anything dumb this week? Well, you know what? I have uh I have a couple of dumb things. One is something that happened this weekend. And I don't know if you guys can tell by watching, but the lighting has been reconfigured here at Blunderworks Studios. So it's working better for us, and we think that's a good idea. It looks better. Um so about that though, Edgar, who's you know, he was really his heart was in the right place, his cold black heart, he wanted to surprise us, so he came over to Blunderworks Studios on the weekend and reconfigured the lighting because he'd made some comments that he thinks he could fix things.
SPEAKER_04These are being washed out, he said.
SPEAKER_03Not that I know think he knows what that means, but I apparently he saw some videos on something. And which is, I mean, in theory, that's great, except it was two in the morning and he didn't have an alarm code for the studio. So he just jimmied the door open, figuring I know my way around, and uh set off the alarm, which led to a phone call to me. So I didn't have to come down to the studios, I just kind of forum onto the phone at two in the morning. And uh Edgar. I asked them, Well, can you describe the man? And they really couldn't, and they weren't anyways. Indescribable. After about five minutes of back and forthing, we did establish that yes, this is Edgar, let him do what he says he's there to do. I guess his poker game just got out or something. I don't know why he's swinging by the studio at two in the morning.
SPEAKER_04I don't understand anything about this man's life after he leaves, so it doesn't surprise me one bit that he was away from.
SPEAKER_03Bottom line is that uh he says that the lighting's gonna be better. I mean, I do agree with him. I mean, it's it's I think it's a noticeable difference. From our position, it's more comfortable. But I wish that I didn't get woken out of bed at two in the morning.
SPEAKER_04It's on me. It's like when your kids were, you know, at that younger age and they phone and two in the morning you'd always wake up, and Edgar's just a big unwanted child.
SPEAKER_03Right? You think it's something important and then it's just Well, hey, Edgar's breaking into your studio. Well, because he was sleeping at all. He could have asked us for a key and the right code. Anyways, so for Jimmy the lock. So that was a little dumb. But uh I've got one other thing that's dumb that I think that the viewers who have been with us from episode one will appreciate this update. Oh it is an update on the escaped monkey story. Oh, snap that I brought St. Louis monkeys. Yes, in episode one. Uh, for those who didn't see episode one, which please go back and watch it. There was spoiler alert, there's a follow-up. There was monkeys. There was a story uh where there was these escaped monkeys. Was that the inaugural? It was the inaugurable. It was our first episode.
SPEAKER_04The inaugural what's dumb?
SPEAKER_03And uh they couldn't confirm nor deny how many monkeys and yada yada. Or whose monkeys? And it was getting confusing because people were sending in AI pictures of the monkeys in locations in St. Louis. And anyways. What kind of monkeys were they? Vervet monkeys. Vervetts! This week weren't they? Uh yes. Or was that the other time you brought up monkeys? I'm not even sure. Monkeys come up a lot. So here's a I'm gonna read you this story, which is an update that just came out this week on the St. Louis monkeys. Headline St. Louis PD, there were never any vervet monkeys loose in St. Louis. What?
SPEAKER_04No way! Here we go.
SPEAKER_03For several weeks, St. Louis residents were convinced there were monkeys running loose somewhere in their city. Turns out there weren't. The whole thing started when St. Louis Department of Health said that a police officer had reported seeing a monkey on the run. Which, if true, feels like something people would notice. Uh-huh. But now the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department say that never happened. Mitch McCoy, the Department's Director of Public Affairs, says there is no record whatsoever of an officer spotting a monkey or reporting a monkey sighting, and no one seems to know where that claim ever came from. Oh my goodness. McCoy said he was watching a January 13th news conference, and I believe our episode was January 22nd, so that would have been what we saw. Yeah. Uh from the health department, where they casually mentioned that uh St. Louis PD officer saw a monkey on the loose. And he said essentially, Well, that's news to us. That's news to St. Louis PD. So the captain in charge of North St. Louis sent out an email to all officers asking if anyone had actually encountered a monkey while on patrol. Not one reply. No sightings, no monkeys, no evidence that there had ever been a monkey. Oh my goodness. The only possible source of the story may have been a single 911 call on January 8th, right around the same time social media started filling up with reports and AI pictures of monkeys in St. Louis. Despite all that, authorities never located one single monkey. The St. Louis Department of Health has now officially called off the search from what they originally described as an unknown number of monkeys on the loose. Yeah, weren't we talking like six, seven monkeys? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Which means the final tally in the great St. Louis primate hunt is zero monkeys, zero sightings, and one extremely confusing fast conference. That is incredible. And somewhere, there's a guy who swore that the monkey looked right at me. But yeah, so nothing. Wow. It was it was all a hoax. And that's amazing because I thought it was such a great story, almost too good of a story. Because who doesn't love a monkey on the loose story?
SPEAKER_04Everyone loves a monkey on the loose.
SPEAKER_03So I I I weren't they like aggressive?
SPEAKER_04Yes. You weren't supposed to go up to them if you did see them because like they're aggressive. Adorable but vicious? Yeah. That was like me in high school. There you go.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy. So they finally come out officially saying, you know what? It was all just a hoax. Well done, St. Louis, because you pulled the wool over a lot of people's eyes.
SPEAKER_04That is just incredible. I I did not see that. I I was assuming that that update would have been they've caught seven of the nine escaped monkeys, and and the first seven won't talk.
SPEAKER_03Well, I was looking for a follow-up on this because I thought, hey, it's been a couple months. And just this week the follow-up was there were no flip and the fact that there is a follow-up, they didn't just like try to push it under the money. Yeah, they couldn't have just buried it.
SPEAKER_04Just bury the lead on that one. They're like, no, we have to have a press conference, we had to let the people know there actually was uh They're safe in St. Louis from monkeys.
SPEAKER_03There was no monkeys after all.
SPEAKER_04There's I there I probably would rather be chased by a monkey in St. Louis than some of the alternatives. But just in St. Louis or Well, I mean, just I mean I'd rather be chased by a turkey than a monkey. I because I think a monkey can get you in more places. Well, they got they got the hands. Yeah, they have thumbs and stuff. Anyways. Do they have thumbs? Well, opposable yeah, don't they? Isn't that how they can do stuff humans can do? Because they have opposable thumbs? I have no idea. Like I think lots of animals would be have a thumb, but they they can't use it like we can. It's just like there. Like a dog's got like five little toesies, but they can't do it. And we got that do claw. We got that thing in the back. It's like if we had a knuckle. It's only there for like getting hooked on the carpet and just for making a mess.
SPEAKER_03Anyways, alright. So that's the monkey update. The monkey update. Yeah, I know some of you have been. I mean, now the letters are gonna come in because everyone's thankful about the monkey update.
SPEAKER_04Well, the letters should also come in this week because we'll make sure to give you the place to send the letters.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, last week we didn't. And uh there was a noticeable uh drop-off in communications. So we do only have we do have two letters this week. You gotta you gonna read the disclaimer? I will read the disclaimer for the letters that we have.
SPEAKER_04It's important that we uh This is important information to have so that we don't get uh we don't get more letters. Like last week with what was his name? Luke? Kyle? Graham Graham was it Graham?
SPEAKER_03It all blends in.
SPEAKER_04He was kind of creepy. And if we would have known, we would have edited to the part where he said. I think it's Kyle was creepy. Kyle was creepy. I wanted to go weird, not creepy. Very different. We would have edited his letter down to we like the show, and then that was it. So, uh, what would we say in mailbag disclaimer? The what were we saying in mailbag contains real letters from real viewers and listeners? Some names, details, and punctuation may have been altered for dramatic effect, personal safety, length, clarity, grammar, excessive hostility, context, readability, emotional stability, and taste.
SPEAKER_03Just a couple things. That covers it. That gives us license to alter your letter. Yeah, so don't come at us. Okay, so shall I read the first letter? You shall. Letter number one. Hey, fellas. I hope I have the right tone on that.
SPEAKER_04I feel as though that's probably an appropriate tone.
SPEAKER_03I was listening to last week's episode and heard the letter from the guy who asked if he could join you for a beer sometime. Speaking of Kyle. I will admit your reaction sounded less than enthusiastic. Um, I would like to say that's very observant because it was less than enthusiastic.
SPEAKER_04I mean, we were pretty enthusiastic in the response, but not enthusiastic about meeting his response.
SPEAKER_03You know. Um, this is interesting. I did look this over before reading it, so this you might, I don't know how you're how you feel about this. That said, I completely understand that the idea of meeting a single listener for beers might feel a bit strange. However, I think the situation improves significantly with numbers. Oh okay. I I For instance, if the original beer gentleman attended and I also attended, that already changes the dynamic. Now it's not just one listener inserting himself into your evening. It's a couple of guys in a small group situation, which feels far more socially acceptable. And if hypothetically a third and fourth listener joined us, at that point it's basically a triple WS event. You're no longer reluctantly having beers with a guy, you're hosting a gathering of your community.
SPEAKER_04You know, he makes some great points. Um or she, I did you never said if it was the logic.
SPEAKER_03I that you know what? This is tracking. So while I did notice a hesitation in your voices, I would still like to put my name forward in case the listener beer initiative ever develops. Looking forward to your reconsideration. Sincerely, Robert brackets sometimes Bob.
SPEAKER_04I wonder if he's Bob when he goes out for beers. Or if he's like he's Bob in fancy occasions and Robert in non-back. I think everyone would expect. Robert's here. No, no. Robert Zags here. When Bob Zags. Uh-huh. Interesting. I do love though, Robert, that he puts that. I would like to throw my name in if the initiative develops. Not hey, take me for a beer.
SPEAKER_03Hey, let's get this going.
SPEAKER_04It's just like if it does, remember basically save this letter. Robert, you a true one. We'll save the letter. We're saving that letter for sure. That's going on the wall. You got one? I do have one. Dear WWWS question mark. First off, let me say that I really that I really enjoy the show. Love that. I love when people say that. Chemistry is good. Love it. The ideas are strong. And the general vibe is exactly the sort of thing I like to listen to. Well, there we go. That's the thing we like to say. That's what that's why we do it. That said, uh oh. I do sometimes. There's always a butt. It's like we talked last episode. Not I don't mean to be rude, but that said, I do sometimes find myself wishing that you would do it a bit better. Okay. Just do it a bit better. Well do it ellipses a bit better. So he made sure we stretched it out there. For example, the pacing could occasionally be a little tighter, though at the same time, I really appreciate the relaxed conversational feel. So I wouldn't recommend shortening anything. Similarly, some of the segments might benefit from a bit more polish, but the round, rough around the edges quality is also part of the charm. So that probably shouldn't change either. So you're just talking in circles here. Yeah, it really is. Anyway, please understand that this is all meant constructively. I really do like what you're doing. I just think it could be done a little bit better. But the ideas you gave us to a better, you also said you'd like the way it's. But again, without changing anything, all the best. Gordon, Regina, Saskatchewan.
SPEAKER_03So make it better, but don't change anything.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, if that's not government policy, I've never heard it. Turn it up. Let's keep it casual. Do it better, but not differently. Be different, but not better. But not worse.
SPEAKER_03I think we can follow that. You know what, Gordon?
SPEAKER_04So basically he's saying basically you're saying you love what we're doing, and we're gonna keep doing what we're doing, but better.
unknownHuh?
SPEAKER_04I'm not sure how it went that way. That was a terrible throw. Yeah, but it's off camera, so we're good. Okay, well. Well, thanks for that. And again, at the end of this episode. We'll make sure to give you the email.
SPEAKER_03From Singapore to Southwark to Regina, we're like getting the whole globe here.
SPEAKER_04We are international. Holy shit. WWWS I. What would we say internationally? Holy crap, that's a little offshoot.
SPEAKER_03An offshoot project working on. Wow. Well, anyways, thanks for again, everyone, please write in. We'd love to read you letters. Yeah, and we'll give you where to put that next time. We will. In the show closing. In the show closing. We won't forget this time. Nope.
SPEAKER_04That's maybe that's what he Gordon was getting at. You know, be better, but a little different. We have to be better by doing the same thing. And last episode we didn't do the same thing we've done, so we were worse. Right? Alright, well. That's how I'm gonna play it? Because then technically we can say we did do it differently, but better. But the same.
SPEAKER_03I also really like people to think that we're taking their constructive criticism to heart. We're realistically, we're keeping that first letter and we're burning that one. Right. I've got a a top ten list coming up here, I guess. We're going to next. We can. Should I uh I'm gonna do you want to read the liner for this? I can read this liner, and then when uh when we get to Edgar's facts here, because he gave me a slip when I walked in, you can read a liner for that one.
SPEAKER_04There we go. Yeah. All right. Right? Thank you, Edgar. I appreciate you. I didn't we didn't even tell him to do them. No. But he did it. So I like the initial after the screw up. He was here at two in the morning.
SPEAKER_03Two in the morning on Saturday. He I like it. We'll see. He got all liquored up after his poker game and wrote up some facts. Well, anyways, what do we got? What do you got a liner for our top 10 list? The Crystal Chakra Charging Station. Ooh.
SPEAKER_04I love me some of that kind of stuff. Love me some crystals. I'm all about the chakra. Something like that. Feeling spiritually out of alignment? No. Low on personal vibrations? Trevor at the Crystal Chakra Charging Station can recharge your entire energy field in under six minutes using ethically sourced crystals, a velvet display mat, and a certified chakra diagram. I just hope he doesn't want to come for a beer with us. Sorry, Trev. Thanks for supporting us, but charging us up, but we don't want to get beers for you. They are located in the old plaza between Ed's Fixit Shop and yesterday's donuts. That's the place that doesn't have the fresh donuts. No, they're uh they're from yesterday. No, that's the thing. They're two days old.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_04It's a whole little mental thing. If you think it's only yesterday, you don't mind that. They actually get them when they're already a day old. Uh huh. They're the day old place that saves them for a day. Gotcha. It's an interesting business model. Uh walk ups are welcome. Aura readings are extra, which you can understand. The crystal chakra charging station. Because sometimes your vibes just need a quick top-up.
SPEAKER_03Thanks, Trevor. Mine never do.
SPEAKER_04Well, maybe they do. Maybe think how much better you'd feel if you visited Trevor's.
SPEAKER_03I couldn't imagine feeling any better than I do on a daily basis. Under six minutes. So that leads us into record for you. The TubeSocks Top Ten, which was uh inspired by and a counter to uh Big Ukes, big bunch of stuff last week. About my trip? The uh the topic is the top ten tube socks approved vacation destinations. Because you did say you don't like you want shade and a puddle. So shade and puddle where we go. Oceans and sun suck. Oh. So top ten tube socks approved vacation destinations. Number ten, Reykjavik, Iceland.
SPEAKER_04Been there, nice place.
SPEAKER_03Cold wind, volcanic rock, and a sky that looks like it's thinking about snow year-round.
SPEAKER_04Well, technically I was in the airport, but I'm still telling people I've been to Iceland because uh I was on their continent or on their continent.
SPEAKER_03I would I would go with their country. Number nine, St. John's, Newfoundland. Fog rolling in off the Atlantic, brightly painted row houses, charming in a bring a coat in a stiff drink kind of way.
SPEAKER_04You like that whole half hour difference thing, eh?
SPEAKER_03The half hour is the best. Oh, it's nine o'clock and nine thirty in Newfoundland.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it's nine o'clock. Uh actually we we've lost another half hour, sir. It's actually nine thirty. So hockey games start at the end.
SPEAKER_03I like to think that they just misplaced the hours in like a screech-fueled.
SPEAKER_04Honestly, I think everything there is screech fueled.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Alright. Number eight, Riga Latvia. Oh. Medieval Towers, Cobblestone Streets, and weather that suggests optimism is optional. Number seven, Detroit, Michigan. Oh. Motown history, old theaters, and that unsinkable feeling that you might be getting tailed by a 1943 private dick.
SPEAKER_04I mean, what's worse? A private dick or a public dick?
SPEAKER_03Number six. Number six, Bucharest, Romania. Wide boulevards, grand old buildings, and just enough Soviet-era concrete around the edges to keep the vibes appropriately stern. Bucharest would be cool. Absolutely. Number five, Cleveland. Just Cleveland. Lake Erie may have the warmth of a filing cabinet, but the food's great, the beer scene is solid, and the skyline looks like it's been through some stuff.
SPEAKER_04Well, and like the song goes, Cleveland Rocks.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Number four, Bratslavia, Slovakia. Gothic architecture and a level of old world gloom that pairs perfectly with plum brandy and cigarettes. That is an apt description of what I would think Bratzavia is about. Number three, Krakow, Poland. Historic squares, centuries of history, and an atmosphere that feels like you've inadvertently stumbled into a Cold War spy novel.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's fair. You get off the plane and you're like, ooh, it's 1952. Right?
SPEAKER_03Number two, Buffalo, New York. Brutal lake effect snow, generational sports misery, and wings so good nobody moves away.
SPEAKER_04Fun fact there's only one New York team that plays in New York. In the NFL. Well, we're not talking about the NFL. Well, I know we're not a sports show, but it's just a fun little thing. A little fun trivia for sure. How many sports NFL teams play in New York? Buffalo. One. And it's Buffalo. We're not a sports show, so get that out of your mind.
SPEAKER_03So you forget that. And the number one number one on the TubeSocks top ten approved vacation destinations. Duluth, Minnesota.
SPEAKER_04You know what? That makes sense.
SPEAKER_03A charming port city on Lake Superior where 300 meter-long iron ore ships glide majestically through the harbor, and the whole place looks like it was built for a very serious documentary. Duluth, eh? So there we go. There's your two thoughts-approved vacation destinations. So a lot of European and a lot of Midwest. And not the fun Europe.
SPEAKER_04Like the Eastern Europe. No, the stern Europe. Eastern, scary Europe, and the Midwest. And I'm assuming you'd like to go to Duluth in January. Or February. Both are nice. Both are good. So you're not coming with us to Cancun next year? No, sir.
SPEAKER_03Cancun, Minnesota, maybe.
SPEAKER_04Oh. Is that a place? I have no idea. Could you imagine if it was? We accidentally booked a trip to the Daisy. Wouldn't that be something? That was uh That was fun.
SPEAKER_03A little counter counter to yours.
SPEAKER_04A direct counter to my fun in the sun.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so now we are going back to how was the movie? So if you recall, a quick recap. First time we did this, I assigned Big Youke 1959, Odd Against Tomorrow, Film Noir.
SPEAKER_05Great!
SPEAKER_03He assigned me pitch perfect, number one. So the the thing is basically we assign each other a movie that's outside of their normal viewing, a movie they haven't seen. And uh we discuss uh said uh said film said film. So this past week we have skipped a few, but this week I assigned you the original 1974 Taking of Pelham 123. Yes. And did you watch said movie? I did. I did watch it. And did you enjoy it thoroughly?
unknownWoo!
SPEAKER_04And I had I had seen the second remake with Denzel and uh Travolta Travolta, but it had been a while, like so I I knew like roughly the story, but not necessarily more than like what the tagline would be about this training build up. So like I knew that in that.
SPEAKER_03Highjacking a subway car, which is ridiculous peculiar premise.
SPEAKER_04Super, but but it also makes a lot more sense to hijack a subway in 1974 than it does in well, they did it in 2009 in the remake. Right. Just with you know, technology and stuff, it feels like it's a lot easier to do it. And the way they do it, it was clearly much easier to do it in 1974.
SPEAKER_03So what um I mean, so I was right, it was just a nice gritty new.
SPEAKER_04It was it was exactly what I wanted it to be.
SPEAKER_03First thing, the music.
SPEAKER_04Good.
SPEAKER_03Right? Great music in that movie.
SPEAKER_04It was. It was just it was like both intense but also fun. Like the music part. Like the movie itself, I thought was just it was well executed.
SPEAKER_03It was there was a bit of humor. Well, that's the thing. It was very cynical humor. It's not a comedy, but the the like Walter Mathau. I was just Walter Mathau's character in that Lieutenant Garber is just perfect.
SPEAKER_04He's so dry and he's so But he's also like he could have freaked out at that other guy who was working, like the the whatever the master guy there.
SPEAKER_03When he got mad about uh not wanting to help the guys who shot Kaz. Because it killed and he's like, you do what I say, or you'll be having dinner with Caz. Oh my god. Yeah. Oh, for and Kaz Dolowitz. I actually had to write down on my notes a line for because okay, so the it might be the most 1970s New York character actor movie of all time. Big because everyone in that movie, like the apart from even the stars or the the main characters, just the periphery characters everyone's exactly what they should be in. They seem like they all work for the city of New York in 1974. Like none of them are like heroes or being cool, they're just they just seem like exhausted they want to just get to work, do their job, and go home. We work for the city, and this kind of sucks. Yeah. But so Kaz Dolowitz, who uh is fantastic, but he uh he's not in it very long. No. He uh he's kind of he's kind of pissed off because they've started bringing women into the workplace.
SPEAKER_04He was very upset about that.
SPEAKER_03And uh he says that line about uh when the train gets uh hijacked, or when he don't realize he's been hijacked, and he says, Oh, what's he doing? Why is this train off the track? I'm gonna nail his becker to the wall or something. Then he looks over and sees the lady in the office, and his quote is, Oh, come on, I gotta watch my language now just because they brought a few broads in here. If they do that, I'm gonna quit. How the hell can you run a goddamn railroad without swearing? And like, oh my god, Kaz Dolowitz, he's so He was very like He doesn't like the way things are changing in 1974.
SPEAKER_04No, he would not be a very happy man nowadays with you know equal rights and stuff. Oh my goodness. So he was definitely fired up, and that was that line specifically that did stick out.
SPEAKER_03And I mean, throughout the cascade, Jerry Stiller.
SPEAKER_04I I mean I like Jerry Stiller. Rico it was it was funny though when the you it meet him when Matho's character is giving the tour to those Japanese people who completely understand English but don't respond to any of his questions, so he's just insulting that they're assuming that they don't speak English. Yeah, and like that was a such a funny little twist when they leave. Yeah, and yes, right? But like he introduces them to Rico, and he's just like sitting there reading the paper, like, I don't want to be bothered by this. Yeah, because it's that whole I came to work, I want to be here for eight hours and then go home. And then he was like extremely helpful and like attentative while it was all happening, which was like you wouldn't have expected that, but given the introduction.
SPEAKER_03And all the characters are just so good at being they're just working for the city, and they like in the the remake, which I've only seen bits of, someone's acting, someone's always no one's acting in this movie, though.
SPEAKER_04That was like I don't even know if I would honestly bargain that some of those people were simply just brought in off the street very much. They actually were filming it at uh the place. They weren't like I don't think some of them were named actors. They were just like, hey, hey, we're filming a scene here. Can you just stand in the background and be you?
SPEAKER_03And and speaking of the other guys, so Jerry Stiller. Yes. Uh excellent, Hector Elizondo. I knew he was in the movie, but didn't know it was him until he took the mustache off. So good, and plays that creepy guy so well. So well.
SPEAKER_04And then he just gets like, he gets whacked so fast.
SPEAKER_03And Martin Balsam.
SPEAKER_04Which one was he?
SPEAKER_03He was the guy the very last guy. In the place where Matthew says, Oh, it's a nice place you got here, and it's a total dump. Yeah. That was uh He's been in many, and he's another guy that who's in if he's in, if you see his name in a movie and you think, oh, should I watch this? If Martin Balsam's name in there, watch the movie. He was the He was he was a sniffly guy, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he was the the motorman from the past.
SPEAKER_03Yes, he was the jury foreman in uh Twelve Angry Men. Oh he was the detective in Psycho.
SPEAKER_04He's got some good roles. He's been in lots of good stuff. I do love that scene when so when when uh Matthow and Stiller's crappy ass apartment.
SPEAKER_03Like yeah, it's a nice place you get.
SPEAKER_04Walter Matthow's so good. He's getting mad at him, telling him to leave. And as he's closing the door, he sneezes. And then Matthouse. And then it's the slow Because all throughout the movie All throughout the movie he's sneezing in the background in the background of the radio while they're holding up the train, and Matthouse character says Gazontite every time. And so then, you know, this is probably hours after the robbery's foiled, or not foiled, but ended, and everyone's getting it. It's a great sneeze, and then like it's almost like the comically like Seinfeld don't don't don't know. Which opens the doorway to end a movie that's kind of a thriller suspense movie, but they ended on a I laughed at the end because he just like oh the camera pans, he opens the door, and he's just like giving him a uh I got you look because he was the one sneezing the whole the whole day. And uh oh, I I did I did giggle pretty good at that.
SPEAKER_03And Robert Shaw?
SPEAKER_04Was he Mr. Gray? Um who third rails himself. Yes. That was an I didn't know that was gonna happen. Oh my goodness. I feel as though their getaway was very poorly executed.
SPEAKER_03Well, then they all started to cave in on each other because they Well, you shoot the one guy. Oh, and speaking of the guys. Okay, so uh Mr. Brown, yes, who first did it, I think. Was that was uh Hector? No, no, the the one that we don't really talk about. Oh, the other one. The other guy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Wilson on Home Improvement. No. Yes. Oh my god. Yes. You probably didn't recognize him because I could see his whole face, not just Wilson. He's got a lisp. And uh stutter. The big homage to uh this movie was when Quentin Tarantino in Reservoir Dogs by taking the thing of naming all the characters colors that came from taking a Pelham 123. So I think my care favorite character though in that whole movie was the passed out drunk woman. Who just wakes up at the ends at the station?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's like, oh, the train stopped. It's like, ma'am, you were going 100 miles an hour into a corner, and you were just held up at gunpoint for an hour and a half.
SPEAKER_03No idea.
SPEAKER_04Just passed out. Well, you did honestly. 20 bucks wouldn't buy you a kiss good night.
SPEAKER_03So here's so funny thing about this movie though, because I just discussed this movie with someone on Friday night, who I was out with, because uh they mentioned the movie and I said, Oh. Funny you said. Well, that's interesting. That uh because and then he said, Oh yes, I saw the episode, so I watched it.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_03And he also had texted me and asked for the link to Odds Against Tomorrow when I signed it. Oh that is vent, yes. Yes, so that's just great. I'm hoping that that's what we like to do. You know who you are and we love you.
SPEAKER_04Is uh is have others check out these movies because even though it gets, like I said, from it's from 74, which is now fifty-two years old, it was still very watchable. I think because like if if you watched you know movies or TV shows, you recognize some of the actors. Right. And it was color, so that was fun.
SPEAKER_03Something else from that movie? Just give it a very slow build, right? Which is something that which why I really don't like contemporary movies, because of it seems to me that moves and valleys, but movies in that era, they seem to have more patience for realism. That's right, like there was nothing in that movie that's whiz-bang, whereas the remake with Denzel, like there's everything's gotta be bigger and more and more explosions, quick cuts, and I enjoy the fast action. I enjoy the slow, the the wide pans, the you get to soak it in instead of just the You can put yourself in that moment a bit more when it's slow like that. Right? So, but like it was it was extremely watchable. Kaz Dollowitz would also really appreciate that movie versus the new one. For probably more than one reason. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, no, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's good to hear. Yeah. I so you enjoyed it more than the first one.
SPEAKER_04Then I will say I did enjoy it more than odds against tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03I will be assigning you more film noirs, but uh sprinkle in seven.
SPEAKER_04I would appreciate that. So plus it was a lot easier to watch it because it was on a streaming service. Yes.
SPEAKER_03All right. Well, do you uh is that it for that movie?
SPEAKER_04Is that uh I think that covers that my view of the experience of that movie.
SPEAKER_03Do you got one for me for uh to watch for the next show? I do. All right.
SPEAKER_04And I think this I had a couple ideas if I went, I had two options in my head. One is very similar to the first movie.
SPEAKER_03Keep in mind, I'm assigning you movies hoping that it uh I understand that you will appreciate and that's why I'm leaning to movie option two.
SPEAKER_04Alright. And that's I will get to few to what option one, and the people will love it.
SPEAKER_03Not just a hey, let's make tube socks watch. I mean, that's kind of the whole mystery Taylor Swift errors tour movie.
SPEAKER_04I didn't even think of that, but now it's on the list. Shit. Um that's what you're giving me things to you know to broaden my horizons, and I'm giving you things that I know you'll hate, but you have to watch. Yeah. That's just uh that's how it works here. It's all right. Um it's a newer movie. Oh, I don't like the sound of that. No, no, it's not well I know it's gonna be. That's the thing. It's gonna be, you know, newer than probably 1974 most of the time. Alright, let's go. Uh that one time I'm gonna give you a movie from like 46 you've never seen, though, and you'll just Alright. I'd love that. It's with an actor who, as previously discussed on the last episode, you haven't seen much of his filmography. Have I seen any? Well, bits. He was in the remake.
SPEAKER_03It is Denzel Washington. I I've never had a Big Mac and I've never seen a Denzel Washington movie, so this is maybe I might as well get a Big Mac while I'm watching this to Double Bird.
SPEAKER_04Two birds, one stone double bird.
SPEAKER_03Two birds, one stone. Alright, what am I watching? Flight. Have you seen the movie Flight? I've never heard of the movie Flight. Do you know anything about it? I did not know that there was a movie called That. There is a movie called Flight. What year is it from?
SPEAKER_04I would l say it's probably within the last decade.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_04Um I've never heard of it. I've never heard of Denzel Washington. He's a pilot. That doesn't surprise me given the title of the movie. Right? Okay. Fair. I don't know how to describe it without giving stuff away. Well, you don't have to describe it at all. No, but it's a it's a it's a it's a movie about a pilot who they there is flies a plane. No, well there's a there's an emergency crash landing. Okay. Uh it's not like a deserted island movie, like they crash in the States, but then it's about his life and the investigation into said plane crash. Uh where uh where I I top of my head I'm not 100% sure where it is. I believe it's on Prime as well. Because I think I saw it yesterday after when I was scrolling through and I found the remake. I clicked on it and then I realized it was the wrong one, but like that the recommended, similar, because it was Denzel. Right. I think that popped up. Uh I will find out and I will tell you where to watch it. Um I think it's a movie that you will like, you know, it's one of those ones that Again.
SPEAKER_03I haven't seen a Denzel Washington movie, but it's not because I'm against Denzel Washington. Because how could I be if I've never seen a Denzel Washington movie movie? Yeah, you can't love or hate him if you never watched him. It's just never come up before. But now it has, and I think he's got a good uh a good library. I mean, I haven't I don't watch Tom Cruise movies because I don't like him, but I did see Tom Cruise movies up until Cocktail, and after that, that movie's just so terrible that I've never watched another Tom Cruise movie. Actually, no, sorry, one after that. I watched The Color of Money because I was a big fan of The Hustler, which that was a sequel to. Uh-huh. And he just ruined the movie by being in it. Like I'm trying to watch a Paul Newman movie and frickin' Johnny Scientology's in it. He's just mugging and grinning and just won't shut up. That's fair. So, anyways. Yes, I flight. Although that said, he was already on the edge with cocktail because that was pretty terrible. I mean, that's fair. It's not a good movie. Although, was it Brian Brown? Is that the other gang cocktail?
SPEAKER_04I couldn't tell you because I don't I've not retained.
SPEAKER_03That said I was I was fairly young, and it seemed to be the thing to do at the time was see a movie with Tom Cruise in it. Although I've still never seen Top Gun, but anyways. What? I digress. Well, I know what I'm doing. Maybe that came out after Colour of Money, and I was like Top Gun's fun. But both Top Guns. Tom Cruise. No thanks.
SPEAKER_04Johnny Scientology. I mean that's that's an accurate nickname. But don't worry, this movie has no Tom Cruise. Okay, what's it called? Flight? It is called Flight. Alright. I think you'll there's a better chance you enjoyed this movie for what it is than Pitch Perfect. That was a movie you were never going to actually be like, wow, that was awesome.
SPEAKER_03Alright. So there that there's that. But it was fun.
SPEAKER_04It was, which is it makes me happy inside. So now where are we going here? Well, Edgar's giving me a signal here that he's wants us to really get to his facts. Okay, well let me draw the liner for that. We're getting to it, Edgar.
SPEAKER_03Calm down. We haven't done fun facts in a while because Edgar's been terrible at it. That's true.
SPEAKER_04Well, he the last one, he was like okay.
SPEAKER_03We went from three down to two.
SPEAKER_04Well, three, it was like they were all bad.
SPEAKER_03That was ridiculous.
SPEAKER_04Then it was like okay. And then we just took a break because we forgot to ask him for it.
SPEAKER_03Gave him two, he only got one good.
SPEAKER_04There was like the octopus heart thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the occur that was interesting.
SPEAKER_04And then the other one was.
SPEAKER_03You already knew that though. I did already know that one. I had no idea.
SPEAKER_04Um then there was like firefighter helmets, and like that's one way he can tell a firefighter is a few. Because they're wearing the helmet. Because he's a bit of an idiot. I can't believe it.
SPEAKER_03Anyways, just that. Edgar's fun facts are brought to you by returning sponsor Dirk Hennigan's Potato Fantasy. Bang! Where you get great potato dishes at great potato prices, conveniently located in the heart of Spud Row between Addison and Hesby. Right there on Spud Row, home of the famous Grand Royal Potato Lovers Special, where you get one baked, fully loaded russet alongside a generous, generous portion of scalloped, a dollop of mashed, and a basket of fries.
SPEAKER_04This is the cycle of potatoes.
SPEAKER_03And the only place on Spud Row offering up hand-mixed potato shakes.
SPEAKER_04Love a good potato.
SPEAKER_03And they wanted uh they actually uh they didn't uh text me, they actually wrote me a letter and mailed it. I'm surprised it got in to me by the time uh the show is recording. They wanted to make a point of they're still featuring live drumming Sunday nights, and they're considering of adding a s a second kit. Ooh! So you can really enjoy your relaxing potato meal. You thought the duel and drum pianos was good. Duel and drum kits. Duel and drum kits, because that's what everyone wants whether eating 90s. That's relaxing potatoes. Right? Okay, so let's hear some fun facts. Edgar. Edgar, fun fact number one.
SPEAKER_04Modern circus clowns traditionally register their unique face designs so no one else can copy them. The official archive is maintained by Clowns International, which keeps painted egg heads. Ceramic eggs decorated with each clown's makeup design to document and protect their look. The collection is known as the Clown Egg Register, and it dates back to the 1940s. Each egg represents a different clown's signature face. It's essentially copyright, but for clown makeup. Wow.
SPEAKER_03That's a lot. Well, I also wonder if maybe Edgar himself maybe doesn't have an egg face registered in there, because why else would he or he has a couple. And that's whole part of it. Can you imagine what a creepy vault that is to walk into? Oh god. Edgar would probably go like trying to do a bank job and he'd break into the freaking clown egg registry vault.
SPEAKER_04Wow. Wow. The clown egg registry. I'm hoping that's the only registry he is on. Yes, let's hope that that is the only registry that Edgar is in. You got a number two? Fun fact number two. It's less creepy. A day on Venus is longer than a year on Venus. The planet takes 243 Earth days to rotate once, but only 225 Earth days to orbit the sun. That is a very slow rotation. 243 days to rotate what is 24 hours on Earth? That's almost like 10 times as long. I can't imagine it's easy. Because it would it happens three times a day. Oh man. Wow. That's fun. You know what, Edgar? That is fun. I uh I am quite impressed with uh with these facts today, sir. Good job, Edgar. I mean, kind of creepy to think about you on a clown egg registry, but that's uh that's both fun and creepy at the same time. Yeah. Much like Kyle's message last week.
SPEAKER_03Alright, what do we got? Kick rocks? Oh, we're kicking rocks. Alright, I think I've got that right here. We're kicking rocks, tube. Take it away. Three things can kick rocks. I always have to hold the cards up like this so you guys can see that they're legit. Too legit to quit. And uh no. Not that at all. Alright, three things that can kick rocks. Clapping when the plane lands. Did you experience that on your trip? Uh yes. There was some clapping, but I'd like to integrate that into my everyday. Like my Uber driver. Yeah, give him a round of applause.
SPEAKER_04I mean, it is kind of lame. There was some slight clapping when the plane landed, but I think it was more because people were like, we're finally here after being delayed for four hours in Edmonton. Ah, it doesn't take it doesn't take that. I think that there is an appropriate time to clap when a plane lands. I don't think it's crazy.
SPEAKER_03But it's very few and far between. There never is. You're basically rough landing. I don't think the pilot can do this, and you're applauding him for doing his job, i.e., like applauding your Uber driver for finding the address. You know, when you put it like that, I rescind my comment. Thank you. Number two, radio ads read by children. Yeah, fair kids suck online or on radios. It's terrible. It's not cute. The first thing you do is turn it down because you're driving along and you got the radio on, and then a cutesy kid's read. No. Anyways, someone thinks it's adorable because it's their kid, it's not adorable because it's your kid. And the third thing that can kick rocks, communal seating and restaurants. Like a family table? But you know, they got the the hipster places that instead of the table, they got the the ten-foot-long table and you're all just supposed to just sit down wherever. I don't want to bench with people. I don't want that. And then someone shimmies up beside you. No. No. I mean, is that any different than pulling up to the wood? It is. How? Because you just slide in for a beer.
SPEAKER_04You're not Well if I slide into the community table for a beer. Bad. Hmm. I think I could. You're not having a meal at the break at the bar.
SPEAKER_03Well, you could. You could. And then last lady did. But then but then she sanitize the rice. But then you're you're fine, you're doing that. You're expecting that. But if you sit at a table. But you know that that's a communal table. So you know what you're expecting it to be so. But if you don't have any other options, there's a place in town that there are no options other than communal tables.
SPEAKER_04Really?
SPEAKER_03Yes, that's I know there's a place that has communal tables. If you choose that, okay. But if that's the only option. So we're not doing a watch party there. We are not, and I am not dining there, even though they have really good food. But I don't want to risk some jagoff sliding up beside me and no. Okay. I think that's more you don't like people than you don't like people. I love people. People are the best.
SPEAKER_04Just keep yourself to yourself. I mean that that point, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It just seems like social engineering, and I don't dig that. You know what? We're gonna make these people make friends with each other. No, don't. Anyways. I mean, fair. I guess if you're going as a solo, it is weird. Well, or someone else, too. I don't want someone just just to stay away.
SPEAKER_04But if I'm going like a group, I don't mind it.
SPEAKER_03If you're filling up the whole table, show.
SPEAKER_04You don't have to fill half a table.
SPEAKER_03But you go there with a couple or two.
SPEAKER_04And I got six. No good. I want a table of six. So what's the difference if the table if it you're at the same time? If I'm showing up with six hours, if there is this much of a gap between tables, you're fine. But as soon as that's connecting, now it's bad.
SPEAKER_03Bad. Let's uh let's wrap this up. So uh we've discussed this before, and everyone discusses this at the end of these shows. Give us a like, comment, and not only subscribe to us, but share us. Share it to your friends. Share it to your friends that even if you're like nonsense. I don't think pe I don't think they'd like this. Just share it anyways. Share it anyways and say, hey, check this out. Give it a try. We could use the views. Love a good view. Um because also once we get to a certain subscription level, yeah. You gotta subscribe too. We are going to subscribe introduce the Society of Those Who Get It. Which, as we've mentioned for the last three shows, we don't know what that is. But once it's there, it's there. We'll start thinking about it once we've got 500 subscribers. And that's a good benchmark. So we're working our way up. There we go. What uh how do you think the show went there, uh, Euclid?
SPEAKER_04I think it went good. I think it went better. Personally, I think it went better than last week's. Oh, well, there you go. Coming back from holidays, my energy levels were a little drained. No, you're too much relaxation. Back into the swing of things. Back into the swing. I'm a little bit, you know, under the weather, but happens when you travel. Energy's better. It's a weird little combo. So I thought this was a fun episode. There were some good laughs. Some good discussions. I got that stuff off my chest at the top. I can't uh disagree.
SPEAKER_03I thought it was uh I thought this was good. Are you listening to anything on the way home today?
SPEAKER_04Oh, there's some sporting events happening right now that I think I'll uh tune into on the way home. Um, and if not, then I will be listening to uh Gloria Estefan. Oh boy. And uh Miami Sound Machine.
SPEAKER_03I myself will be uh, as you know, I always go to my TubeSocks Spotify page, and I will be listening to a playlist kind of inspired by Gloria Estefan? No, uh Pelum 123. It's a playlist called Mean Streets, which is a mix of black exploitation, 70s crime show themes, plus some 70s funk in there. Checks out. Uh actually some of the music from Pelum 123 tracks are in there as well. That would make sense. And here's the thing: I've now started, I just went back a couple days ago, and in each episode description on YouTube, I've popped in the link to the playlist of a good link. Click it. Once this episode airs, I will go back and add the link to this playlist. If any of you'd like to play along at home or in your car, then you certainly can. We need to discuss how you get a hold of us.
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SPEAKER_04So wow, these are getting worse. Oh, but you're going backwards to the start.
SPEAKER_03Right? So don't go back to the beginning and work your way up, work your way back. Listen to them in reverse, too. There we go. But not backwards, though, because that's confusing. All right, well, anything else or is that good?
SPEAKER_04I think we've I think we've covered uh uh exactly what we need to cover today.
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