115: 3000 Crooked Miles - Confidence Over Distance

Against a backdrop of absolutely no external validation - but an overwhelming internal sense of achievement - What Were We Saying? barrels into its season finale with the confidence of a show that assumes it stuck the landing three episodes ago.

This week, the Tubesox Top 10 returns, now carrying the quiet authority of a segment that has never once missed, been questioned, or required revision. Meanwhile, The Future That Wasn’t digs confidently into the past to explain why everything went wrong, despite offering no actionable solutions.

Big Uke delivers his  review of Detour (1945), a film that, much like the show itself, spirals into chaos with unwavering commitment. Interpretations vary, conclusions are drawn, and at least one take is presented with alarming certainty.

And, in a move befitting a finale of this magnitude, the show closes out with 3 Things That Can Kick Rocks - a segment that dares to say what others won’t, mostly because others haven’t been asked.

No lessons learned. No loose ends tied up. Just a finale that insists...firmly, repeatedly...that this was the plan all along.

Transcript

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Maybe you can do Zocks just chatting away on what we say. Hey, hey, hey, to have cats with nothing to say. It's a group of good times, so listen away. What will we say?

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So, anyways, that's why you never leave a clown and a platypus in the same room together. It's just what I've learned. Valuable life experience. It's important stuff. Tonight, the season one finale. Tube socks has a fresh top ten list. And we've got the second installment of the future that wasn't. Plus, this guy gives his review and thoughts of the movie Detour. And as usual, TubeSocks is three things that can always kick rocks. So let's get to it. We're coming at you from the fifth floor of Blunderworks Studios. That is Big Yuke. Hello! That's TubeSocks. Hey! Behind the camera is Edgar the chairman Lassiter. Fifteen episodes, and I still don't want to call him that. Right? It's just begrudgingly call him that just because he insists. And our opening and closing themes are brought to you by Harold Winthrop in the Silver Astray Orchestra. How'd their gig go? I haven't heard back from him since. Uh-oh. Do you think they got I think they're still there. Maybe they're just caught up in all the excitement. I mean. Harold and the boys are sitting in for a Chuck E. Cheese band off of Old Mill Road. And uh we got word last week that this is happening, but we haven't heard back from him since. So what a sentence. Filling in for a Chuck E. Cheese band. You think he'd get back to us with uh, hey, this is going great. Oh yeah, hey, we're still alive. We're back to the dog track. Maybe they're just on the side of the old mill road, still in their costumes. Thumbing for gravy. I don't know. Oh my goodness. Anyway, so here we are at our season one finale show. We made it. You made it. We all did this. So this is very exciting for us. 15. Of course, our as we've mentioned, if you've been paying attention, we're taking a two-week hiatus after this episode. Two. But we'll be coming, we'll have back-to-back clip shows. Gotta recharge the batteries. You can celebrate the triumphs of season one. It ain't easy dealing with Edgar. So recharge the batteries and uh Yeah, how was how was your week? Week was uh good. It was busy, eventful. We did run into each other one time. We did. We did indeed. That was uh that was a time at a local establishment. I had a time. It was a late time. It was uh it was a shift. It was a shift. Maybe not so much late, but it was certainly a shift. Yeah, I guess at that point do people just consider it early? I mean, it it wasn't really late, but I certainly felt like it was time to go. Yeah, I don't think I felt that as at the same time as you did. Well, yeah, you know, it was a classic. A classic you can two meetup. Oh boy. Well, I enjoyed it. That was your week. Decent, you know. Uh you got anything dumb this week? Apart from the local sports. I was just gonna say, well, the weather's starting to shift, so uh, that's not dumb anymore. That's the only thing I got dumb is just the local professional sports team. The local professional sporting team is uh really uh what's what's the saying there? Picking the knit. But we don't need to get into that on a flicking the nut, because we're not a sports show. We're not a sports show, and we'll leave that to others to discuss. You got me going on a sporting team. That's okay. Eats away, yeah. It ain't done yet. If you know, you know. But we're not a sports show. We're not a sports show. Well, you know what we are a show of, though. What's that? Stuff of things. Shall we dive right into this uh stuff? This top ten that I've got here? That's a I think when we're talking about stuff, that's a pretty good. I mean, I feel like it's maybe a little early, but we've had a tendency to run a little late lately once we get talking. So we get blabbing. Maybe we could dive right into this and stave that off. I say we do it. Hit us with it. Haven't had this in a while. Tube socks top ten. And it is inspired by the hiatus that we are about to snap! And it is the top ten reasons that we're continuing the show after our hiatus. Uh, this is a nice little full circle moment from your first top ten. Yes, that was my plan. Which was uh nice. Yeah. He's a thinker. I am thinker. No matter what people say about him, he's a thinker. Not just a hat rack. Alright. Top ten reasons that we're continuing the show after the hiatus. Number ten. We've already explained it to too many people to stop now. There are at least six people expecting follow-up. That's the kind of commitment we need. So it's a big number. It is. More than our initial projections of the pulled into that room. The fancy stats. Number nine. The equipment has been set up once, and that feels significant. Yeah, it's a lot of equipment to take down, so. And we're one unplug away from total chaos in here, so just leave things where they are. Number eight, the show now has internal references that we pretend everyone understands. That's very true. We say things like it's normal, but sometimes they're not. Sometimes it's not, but we gotta keep going so that it becomes normal. Exactly. Number seven, we accidentally created segments and now we're kind of locked into them. You don't just walk away from something called a segment. You can't. That's just that's blasphemous. We have numerous segments and we're just locked into them. You might see a couple today. We're in one right now! Right, exactly. This is a bit. Number six, at least one person said, Oh, you guys should keep doing that. Tone was unclear. Yeah, I don't know what to do. We're choosing to believe it was sarcastic because it was in writing. Yeah, we're choosing to believe it was sincere, but if it's not, well, we lean towards the positive because we're positive guys. Positive dudes. Number five, the file naming system has already been stabilized. That's a lot, I know that's a lot of backdoor stuff, and that's very technical. Well, you gotta die. You know, I think people like a little peek behind the curtain. Yeah, so we've got to. You don't want to see what's back there. But we we've got a system now, we've just kind of figured it out. So now we might it'd be ashamed to abandon it now. It's like when you learn the Dewey Decimal system. You want to stop working at the library? No. No, you've just got it. You just got it done. Number three. We've established a fake internal canon that now requires maintenance. Past episodes are now lore. Contradictions must be ignored or aggressively explained. That's factual. And if you know anything about the show, you know we love lore. Love lore. At least I specifically love lore. Big lore guy. That Chuck E. Cheese lore last time. Right? That was fun. That was new. Poor guy. Number two. We started referring to this as the show in conversation. Yeah, that's very true. You can't stop having a show once you start calling it the show. Well, not after one season. Nah. One season? That's just lame. And the number one reason that we're continuing the show after our hiatus, we genuinely think that we're onto something, and we will not be fact-checking that. Boom. Confidence is high, evidence is low. We're moving forward. Eyes closed, head down. Exactly. Exactly. Full speed, straight through the wall. Oh my goodness. That was good. Those are very accurate reasons as to why this isn't going to be ending. As much as, you know, I don't know if it was exactly mentioned, but we we think people are enjoying it. We are, so at the end of the day, that's all that matters. Exactly. One viewer a million views. We're still having fun. And Edgar's always watching. We're here for whoever's here. And we love that you're here. Got a liner for that uh for that next segment. We're really clipping along faster. We are moving. Don't worry. It's an excitement thing. Don't worry, it'll slow down. Oh yeah, we'll get there. But it's episode 15. It's, you know, season's ending. I think it's I don't know. And this uh this liner, this is a third-time sponsor. They were just really excited because they want it to be part of our season finale. Good guys. Uh that's of course the Fondue Pit. Good guys of the Pit. This is uh they're like a like a gold star sponsor along with who's the other one that's done three? Uh Reliable Company. Reliable Continental Co. Reliable Continental Co. Yes. They've been around. All right, looking to elevate your dining experience while remaining below ground? Welcome to the Fondue Pit, the only revolving fondue restaurant in the city, and the only revolving restaurant in the world located entirely in a basement. It's just cutting edge, really. It really is. Take in the atmosphere as you rotate through an evening of melted possibilities at a speed that's ambitious, possibly more ambitious than expected, but that's part of the experience. Under new management, the fondue pit now features fresh oil daily, bringing a renewed sense of confidence to every dip. And for those who enjoy a more classic dining environment, they are proud to continue offering a smoking section. In this day and age? So Nancy can go there. That's perfect. If Tom are allowed. The Fondue Pit. You'll come around to it whether you want to or not. And I'll come around to you at an aggressive speed. I do feel like we're moving along at an aggressive speed. This is weird for us. We'll figure it out. Don't you worry, folks. This ain't over in 20. Okay, what do we got? We got the future that wasn't. This is the second appearance of this. A double whammy to end the season. So the future that wasn't. I think a little explanation on this for those who haven't seen it. This is uh the second time we've had this segment. Uh was it two weeks ago we we maybe three? Two or three uh episodes ago we debuted it. Uh a bit of a uh uh look backwards to some would say a simpler time. Atomic era optimism? That's a great description. Atomic era optimism and uh you know, like a popular mechanics type headline. And we're just gonna kind of dive into those and uh see what their predictions for uh for the today were. We got a couple each, so we're gonna read and just uh again enjoy the atomic error. Atomism. Atomic era optimism. Hey, why don't you why don't you kick things off there, youke? What do you got? Disposable paper clothing for everyday use. In the 1950s, the future of fashion briefly took a very strange turn. Magazine articles and advertisements imagined a world where clothing would be mass produced from paper or synthetic fibers and simply thrown away after after each use. The pitch was convenience, no laundry, no wear and tear, just a fresh outfit every day at minimal costs. Designers even created prototypes of paper dresses and suits to demonstrate the concept. It had a short-lived novelty run, but the idea of wearing something with the lifespan of a napkin never quite stuck. Interesting part about that is synthetic fibers certainly came to be. Well, big time. It's tough to find natural fibers these days. Honestly. But I think the big part of disposable clothing. And I think there's like there is a place in the current for that disposable clothing when it comes to like uh like you know, paper coveralls for you know painting or demolition. But that's not this. Like they're talking about like paper suits to wear. Like a paper suit and a paper. You come home and you just ball it up and tuck it in the trash and throw it in the garbage, no laundry, pull out your new paper suit. Like no wear and tear on paper. Like I can't imagine going through the day without a tear in your paper. I mean you feel a little bit. I can't I just imagine the paper cuts. I'd be very aware that I was dressed in paper. The paper cut potential is Yeah, watch when you're taking that shirt off. Like, that's just there's a lot of places My cuff. Among other things. Yes. Yeah, like I mean it doesn't specifically say paper underwear. But why would you throw out everything but that but the most But the whole thing is no laundry. Yeah, no laundry thing. Conven a convenience thing. Which I just think, God forbid you go out when it's raining. You ever spill something on paper? I mean It's never the same after. I'd like to think they'd treat it with something, but hopeless optimism is what it was. Disposable paper clothing for everyday use. Alright, well. Oh 1950s, you silly goose. Okay, well I've got uh I've got one here. Cities beneath the sea. Ooh, Atlantis. Mid-century futurists were convinced that the next great frontier wasn't space, it was underwater. Features in magazines showcase sprawling undersea colonies housed in glass domed structures where thousands would live and work beneath the ocean's face. Right, exactly. These weren't framed as experiments, they were pitched as practical solutions to overpopulation and resource shortages. The ocean floor, readers were told, would become humanity's next suburb. The technology proved possible in small doses, but the cost, pressure, and general discomfort of living underwater kept its one firmly in the pages of science magazines. Yeah, I think a prime example of uh this not working, uh what was that uh at Titan sub? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that a little too much pressure. A little too much pressure. Well, I mean, maybe you wouldn't go that deep. Yeah, you're not building uh your Well and going home and you go to the deepest part, you would Yeah, that's true. You're not going to the bottom of the Atlantic per se. But still, there's really no need. I just feel like in that time to worry about overpopulation and going underwater. Or would they like to see 70 years later? They would be kicking themselves. Lots of room in uh Nanton. In Uvick. Lots of space up there. You don't even have to go underwater. Right, there's no water. You know, it's always been a thing though that would be kind of fun. You see, like in you know, certain types of movies that are living underwater. Well, sure. Well, Spongebob. Spongebob. Of course they were not they were fully Sandy. Sandy had the place. There we go. Sandy had the place. Sandy's place underwater. Water's the ocean's scary. It is scary. You think space is scary? We know more about space than under there. Maybe they started going and then they found shit and we're like, oh god, no. Yeah, this is no good. We can't we can't let people know about that. Have you seen the neighbors? Alright, you got another one? Yeah, and speaking of underwater versus space, vacation trips to the moon by 1975. 1975. That's an aggressive number. When did they go to the moon? 61? 63? Eight seven? Late 60s, they actually landed on the moon. Yeah. So like six years later, we're doing vacations. Yeah, we're gonna be there just tanning it up. In the wake of early rocket breakthroughs, publications like Popular Science painted an incredibly casual picture of lunar travel. It's casual. Just easy peasy. Just go. Just just holding you up. Yeah, well, come on. The idea wasn't just astronauts planting flags, it was middle class families booking round trips to the moon. Well, I'm glad they're not one ways. That's true. Complete with space hotels and guided excursions across the surface. Wow. Again, what a time. Just the the hopeless optimist. The cockeyed optimist Yeah, I mean the drugs in the 50s, man, must have been insane. Articles describe scheduled departures, observation windows, and even low gravity recreation. The assumption was that once rockets worked, scaling them into a vacation industry was simply a matter of time. As it turns out, the gap between we made it once and bring the kids is significant. You know, Sinatra had an album with a whole like a 15-minute suite on space travel. It's amazing. Not many people like the record, but I certainly do. I might have to give that a little listen. I mean, this is just and like the timing obviously of this being with what Artemis just did. But still, that's not a vacation investment. And that was That's not the love boat. And that was what, 70 years later? And they finally decided to ah, let's take a little spin again. Right? See if we can get there. It's not the love boat. What was uh who was the cruise director? Oh, Julie. Julie. Yeah, Julie's uh organizing no uh uh uh lunar tricks and drinks on the moon. That'd be pretty difficult to try to do flare bartending on the moon. It would be ah shit. Lost another bottle of vermouth. Vacation trips to the moon. And I I mean, I can understand the whole vacation trips to the moon principle, but by 1975. 1975 is a little aggressive. Hey, we just got there. Six years later, you're gonna be a hotel a space well how long does it take to build a space hotel? Space hotels and guided excursions across the surface. You too can see the flag. They're trying to do this now, but they've had they have like nine different Artemis missions scheduled to build some sort of a space base on the moon. And they still haven't talked about hotels yet. No talk of hotels or condos or what do you think HOA would be like on the moon? Well, I gotta think it's kind of punitive. The gap between we made it once and bring the kids is quite significant. Alright, well, I got one more here. Whoa! Whoa, that was that was a good one. Wow. Only took me 15 episodes and I figured it out. Holy shit. 20 bucks is I can't do that again, though. Alright. Your personal atomic reactor right in your basement. Yo, you know what? That just it just checks out. Uh at the height of atomic optimism, some mid-century concepts suggested that nuclear power would shrink down to the household level. The vision? A compact self-contained reactor installed in your home, quietly generating limitless energy for everything from lighting to cooking to heating. We talked about that before, but everything was like just limitless. Yeah, everything was was just limitless and done and just like boop, it's ready. Articles described it as safe, efficient, and virtually maintenance-free. Something a technician might check once a year. Nothing like your furnace. Nothing about that reminds me of Chernobyl. You just got your your furnace guy or your nuclear reactor guy, just pops up. Your reactor guy changes the filters, right? Tops the core up. The assumption was that nuclear energy would become so well understood and controlled that it could be trusted in suburban basements for reasons that feel a little obvious now. The idea of every home containing a small atomic core never quite made it past the drawing board. Yeah, no, that's some like fallout level stuff. Honestly, we have issues with like CO2 leaks in houses. People don't change their furnace filters. Imagine you're having to deal with an atomic core in your basement. When are we getting the new rods? Well, the guy was supposed to be here last week. I just that's oh, because that's too you had one the first time we did that when it was like power's gonna be so easy to make, they're giving it away. Too cheap to even meter it. Too cheap to meter it. Because it was endless electricity. Endless elect and like I think the concept of nuclear power makes a lot of sense. But then you just It's great fiction. You do one little quick scroll on the whole interwebs, and it's like, ah yes, a city we can't go to for 20,000 years. Thanks. So you've got a neighborhood of 20,000 people, 20,000 small little reactors, one in every little house. Just 20 little nukes waiting to go off. Yeah, that sounds like a video game. It seems kind of terrible. I would be a fun video game, though, if you would, you know, you're the repair man. Oh, this is a premise. And uh, you've gotta make sure you hit each house in a timely manner, because like shit does go wrong because it's you know, it's life. All of a sudden, you know, Billy Bob and Joanne are having a barbecue in the backyard and go boof. It's like, well, scratch them off the list. No mail delivery that time. What a time to be alive. Yeah, that ah man, just the worries of the world then just seemed so so different. Well, anyways, we can't uh we can't go back to those times, but we can certainly bring them to you to share. And that's what we're doing. That's fun. Where are we going to next? We gotta you watched a movie, did you? I hope you watched it. I did indeed. And did you watch the little pre the previous? I did watch the pre-curse. Did you find that? I believe it helped. It helped a little bit. It gave context for sure. Um and and this movie Okay, so well it's well you tell the folks what you watched. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I watched a movie called Detour. And it's one of the best and one of the worst movies of all time. It's yeah, I've I mean it does say, but with Eddie Muller's content. I do believe the context of like the whole like shoestring. It gave it gave a little backstory into like the studio and like some of that nonsense, and like they only had 25 grand and like he was blacklisted and like the director, and like that was he scrambled together a cheap ass movie that ends up being actually kind of compelling and interesting. And like and that that kind of compelling and interesting is a very, very good description of this film. Do you want to give a little brief uh overview of what you thought of it before I go into some things? Yeah, I do, because like I I think this movie on a few questions for you. Okay, good. And I hope I can answer them. Um well, you do your little preamble first and then I'll hit you with. So this movie was only an hour long, so it if it was just like kind of a lot. But a little all at once. It's very dense. Yeah, like it's just like bang. Then it's over. So it was kind of it was hard to like track notes. There's not a lot of breathing room in that room. No, it's just kind of like what's happening? Oh, that's happening. Okay, now something else is happening. Um, and I think I'm starting to understand the whole film noir, like just bad things that always happen, and then the ending's not what you think it should be, like we're used to in today's movies. Right. Yeah, I mean, my biggest note here was not bad. Like it wasn't. Will I watch it? Will I watch it again? Probably not, but like wouldn't be surprised if it was on after I wake up from a nap and I just keep it on. I did fall asleep for like three minutes in the middle of it. I hope it wasn't when Vera was talking. Uh no. I don't believe it was. Darn it, her dialogue in that movie is so good. So I hope your questions don't involve that time when I did fall asleep. Like I said, it was a long day the night before. Yes. Yes. But like, honestly, I think this one. I liked this one more than the first movie I watched. Odds Against Tomorrow? Yeah. Okay. Obviously, I didn't like him as much as uh Well, sure, but comparing us to the Honestly, even the uh the third movie. Uh, I think this one would be third out of the point blank? Point blank, I think, would be just above this one. Pelum 1, 2, 3. Pelom 1, 2, 3, point blank detour, Odds against Odds against Tomorrow. Okay. But if also was a you'd never watch a 1940s movie. I hadn't watched a 1940s. Like, this was my first 40s ever film that wasn't a World War II doc. Yeah, I mean, he's a hell of a piano player. That was my first note. He was just he was tickling them, Ivory's. He was. Yeah, Vera's a bit of a she's something. I think my note here is Vera ain't no saint. Well, shall I interject with Vera here? Yeah. Do you think that she knows that Al is weak immediately or she figures it out quickly? Oh, I'm confident it was the moment she sat down. Snappy ass dialogue? It was crazy. The way like I mean she played it well, but like, yeah, he she just knew he was a just a spineless little bitch. But I won't go to deep into Vera before we get into uh a little more about Al. Just because Vera's just like the icing on the cake. But first of all, is there a scene that uh stuck with you? Or no? Well that you went, oh, that's a scene. Well, where the the whole when they're in the hotel or the condo thing that him and Vera at the end. Uh with the phone cord? Yeah. That was very shocking. Unexpected. Very. And especially considering I didn't realize that that was, you know, 52 minutes into the 60-minute film. So I was like, what the hell? It's and then like, oh, the movie's over. Gone. Right. This makes sense now. But it was like, oh sh damn it. I was like in the middle of writing a snarky comment about the phone cord, and then he opened the door and I'm like, shit, scratch that out. Did anything make you laugh that probably wasn't supposed to? I mean, to me, the dialogue just makes you laugh. Well, just in general, every time they talked. Every time Vera's snappy dialogue, like the line, what'd you do? Kiss him with a wrench? Like when she gets in the car, she's instantly angry, and she knows that it was the guy's car because she scratched the guy on the hand. Yes. And so she's like, You're not Haskins. Yeah. What did you do with him? Would you kiss him with a wrench? Like she's just and just that stare. Yeah, she's a bit of a wild child.

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And I think they honestly in that whole like when they're renting that place, their conversations where she's like, she's so mad at him, she's like wants him to die immediately, but then like also wants to sleep with him, but then like stops wanting to sleep with him, snaps at him, and then and then she's dead. Right. I kind of that whole scene was like, well, that was an adventure. Well like she when she walks up and like puts her hand on his arm and says, I'm going to bear nice. And then and then then no. And then she she's just dead. Get the hell out here. But they don't come, and you can hear her locking the door. I've locked all the doors. Okay, but he's also inside. He can just unlock them. Al Roberts, cautionary tale, or just a guy who never should have left his apartment that day. Like that was like a series of calamities. That was a big series of cal, but it's not doesn't seem like he's that type of guy who that like normally would have happened to. He's not a guy who bad things seemingly would happen to, like Ben Stiller in Meet the Parents. Yes. Like, no matter what, bad things are going to happen to him. This just seems like a lot of bad things happened in one specific short period. It seems uh on a scale of one to hitchhike and cross America with a stranger. How bad are Al's instincts? Oh, yeah, they're pretty bad. Well, here's the thing though. He uh so the There's also the age before nuclear hope. The guy dies. And his quick instinct is to just assume the body. Assume his identity, bury the body, which tells you something that's Yeah, he's been there before. He's not a good guy. He's narrating the movie. It's like he's trying to tell you what he wants you to believe. Like when you look back, if you watch it a second time, you'd pick up on that. Like, okay, he's not being totally upfront. He's you definitely make a good point because he always kind of like even the last line when he's about how you know fate steps in the way or whatever, puts the finger on you. Yeah. I think you kind of create a lot of this garbage yourself there, Al. I think, yeah, you're right though, though he does like because you're very quick to make the absolute wrong decision. He made that one very quickly. I thought. I gotta hide him in a bush, steal his wallet, and clothes. And car. Yeah, he uh he didn't hesitate to be like, well, I guess I'm Haskins now. God, some of the uh things I've got about Al here, if he walked into our studio, how long before we asked him to leave? Well, I th you know what? We would probably want to do it, but I think Edgar would like him. That's true. Him and Edgar would be a little kind of kindred spirits. Yeah. But I it wouldn't be long because he would just make fun of the music we're listening to and get bidy about something. Uh speaking of music, when he's in that opening scene when he's in the diner, there's a line that you will never in your life hear ever. When he says to the uh the chick at the counter, You got change for a dime? Yeah. Change for a dime. Who when was the last time any of you plunked a dime on the counter in an establishment and said, Do you got change for a dime? You wanted to play on the juke. But he didn't want to put a dime in. No, gosh. No. I don't want two songs? No, he just wanted to. Well, one track. Yeah, he snapped at him pretty quickly for a guy who was just offering to take him north. Ah, when Al realizes that he picked up the dame with claws. Haskins' words. The dame with claws. She got him pretty good. Also, the saber got him pretty good. That saber fight. There was actually that line when I first saw that movie when I was a much younger tomb sucks. There's In 1950. There's a line from a song by the Kramps that opens up there ought to be a law against kittens with claws. And when I heard that line, I'm like, oh my god, it's like a cramp song. I can't say I thought that same thing. No. Yeah, I I think I wish I they would have done a little flashback to that saber fight though. That would have been fun. They poked a guy's eye out. Right? Yeah, we're not hearing what happened, but what Al wants us to believe happened. Yeah, that's very true. It's almost like this whole thing, they could have like they could have ended the movie with him like on the stand. And like that's his like retelling of he was trying to get the jury to believe his side of the story. And uh yeah, the cover-up of Haskell's death was a rationalization. Very quickly made for an easy theft. Which makes you think that everything was just He was almost hoping. And I don't ever think he was in love with uh was it Sue? Sue? Well the fact that he never got there you know what he was in love with? The gig that she gave him. Mm-hmm. Right? He's being the people. Yeah, and like that was also like she says he's she's going to uh to California and Yeah, he's talking about all this marriage stuff. But then there's very, very little fighting to like, no no, don't go. Yeah, no, it's just oh and especially in that era when it's like the the man usually would have been like nope, yeah, you're not exactly right. Yeah. And he's just oh, okay. He's like, okay, well maybe I'll come see you. Maybe I'll come out, maybe I'll hitchhike and bury a guy and I'll bury a guy in a bush and steal his clothes and car and and then fake being him with a fake wife while we were in his using all his money trying to sell his car. And then I don't even go up with him, hey, at the end. Oh, funny. I have that note. I'm like, well, he gets picked up by highway patrol anyways, because what the fuck? Right? What was that line I I wrote down about Vera? Also, the name Vera's terrific. Um my grandmother's name. Oh, nice. She was not as well, you know, actually psychotic. Simpson's reference for Vera, the Robert Goulet episode when he's playing up in the treehouse. Robert Goulet. And uh he's talking about his manager, and uh, I don't know who the hell says, but your oh, is uh fucking Nelson. Your manager told me told you to shut up. Vera said that? His wife was his manager, anyways. Um what's scary? Vera yelling or Vera just sitting there quietly staring at you? Oh, quietly. Like she just that were there in the car? Oh like that first time she pops in the car when she hits with uh what did you do, kiss him with a wrench? I uh just I fully expected her to just like to scratch him, like to just lash out and uh what a great just as he's driving, go with him. I just yeah. It's happened to me. He was doing so good. Um funny story about uh oh, first of all, okay, so the the the low budgetness of the movie, it's actually totally charming. And it's very clever. Especially because like there's stock footage used, like when he's making the phone call and they cut the stock footage of like operators and telephone lines, and not just stock footage. Just like the bounciness of the camera. Yeah. And I mean, obviously the the driving Well, it's very bad screen. That's about like I don't know, it's kind of like But that was also done in every movie then, but it's done especially poor. But it's just like you could tell, like, yeah, these guys did have $12 to make this movie. And the uh they spent nine of it on the car. The street scene actually that car was the producer's car. Oh, really? Yeah, it's a very nice car, but that was the producer's car. And uh the street scenes in New York, you only see about this much of the street. Like and it was entirely filled with fog because that was just a little corner lot at the studio. Uh sure. And so to make it look different, they just filled it with fog so they didn't have to actually show any of the street because there was no street. Oh, yeah, when they when they walked out of the club and it was just like just so it's just s fog. More fog than New York ever gets. It's not a foggy town. It's never been that foggy in the history of that city. It's not San Francisco, it's New York. You know, a similar kind of uh trick in uh well, you probably haven't seen Casablanca. Uh no. You're familiar with it? Yes. Okay, there's this end scene of Casablanca, famous scene where Bogart and Bacall are like having their kind of say in their bits, and you see in the background there's a plane and stuff, and it looks like they're in this big airport place. They were actually just in a small sound stage, and there were midgets, and it was like a one-third scale plane, like 12 feet behind them, and midgets just to make it seem like so it looked like there was people full size, yeah. Oh, that's uh camera trickery. Yeah. It was like a forced perspective thing. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't know that till actually a few years ago. And then you look at it and go, holy shit, that's totally little people. Little people running around. Proportions are all off, and uh and the plane was actually only 15 feet behind them, but it looks like it's 40 meters off in the distance. Yeah. Yeah, no, the whole fog thing. I I I as soon as they walked out, I'm like, ah, there's no set here. Yeah, no, there's no set. They have a wall of a building. But what a brilliant movie for no budget. That's the thing. Yeah, it's like it's like it's so creatively done. Because I think like if you tried to re-like if you remade that movie with like one budget, I don't know if you could make it necessarily like better. No, like because it the whole you know, bad luck guy just dies, hide him in a story, you could redo that story, I guess. But even then, like the story, the way it's played out. The term of that movie is that is that also the story's kind of choppy. It's very choppy. It's just like when they do that, the flashbacks, all they do is dim the lights and zoom in on, put a light across his face. That's his Yeah. And like the whole room goes dark, and then it's it's like on a if you were watching a play. Yeah, and then they just like spotlight, everything goes dark, people are in the background shuffling uh set pieces. I mean, I I think it was a very I've watched that movie many, many, many times. I I it's probably a movie that I watch once a year, maybe. One thing that uh did make me giggle shortly after he hides the body and changes clothes, uh, when the cop comes up to him and starts getting mad at him because he was parked in the street with a tire out in the road that hasn't seen two vehicles on it since 1912. Yes. When they paved it. And it's a pouring rainstorm, and the cops just automatically being like really and also that that uh that scene where he's trying to put the top up on the car, that's just it's just awkward and uncomfortable. Like he's just out in the pouring rain, and it just gets like the rain could not come down harder. Right? I mean that's I mean obviously like a movie thing, it's hard to imitate misting. So it's always if you notice in every movie when it's raining, it's always pouring. Well, they got those guys on the ladder with the hoses and they're just you can't yeah, it it looks too fake if you try to have uh just a sprinkle. Yeah. But he was getting soaked. Also, he he seemingly was driving for so long in the rain before he tried to wake up Haskell. Mr. Haskell, it's raining! And we have no top-up. We have no top-up. It's right. The guy's clearly dead. He's being poured rained on, and he hasn't woken up. The pills he was taking, who knows what they were for? I'm assuming he was taking pills from the box in the glove compartment. What a what a but so But also Haskell's good riddance. Big old dick. Absolutely. Trying to swindle his father? Because he owes his bookies in Jersey.

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What a guy.

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What a dink. So would you say that uh you say you you kind of enjoyed the movie? I actually like like now you've seen a couple movies in that I think I'm I'd see the production value difference. Like that was a low budget one. Odds against tomorrow wasn't a low budget movie. No, it was a bigger budget, not big budget, but definitely bigger budget. Like there was a whole explosion. I got some uh I actually honestly have some in the chamber that you know, again, I'll pepper in those older ones because I know you they're not maybe your favorite to watch, but once you start watching them, you get an appreciation, you kind of get into that. That's the thing. I've definitely even just watching these three, you know, older movies, I have developed a bit of an appreciation for it's you have to look at it differently. You start getting past it being like, oh, that doesn't look realistic. It's like that's not supposed to. Yeah. It's just a story. Yeah. You have to look they weren't trying to trick you. Nowadays you watch for a set and a gallery. And you want it to be as realistic as possible. You can't go into it like that. No. That's why like that first movie. Most of my comments about that first movie were just how stupid it was. That didn't look good. That didn't look right. There's no way that was Yeah, the pl like all that. Not just storyline stuff where I think I've done a but better job of just talking storyline. Well, yeah, that's the thing. That's what I've noticed. I think I've grown. And that's a beautiful thing, and that is why the segment exists. It's for both of us to grow. Because again, I'm watching stuff that I wouldn't watch. Exactly. I mean, I don't think you can you have to grow as much as I do. Actually, there's there's some others that I'm really excited about. I almost wish that we were doing this more frequently than we are, but uh hey, we got nothing but time. Hey, we'll figure it out. Maybe season two. Which is right around the corner. Right around the corner. Alright, so do we move on from uh the movie? Yeah, I think we've kind of covered it all. Um and so generally you uh you didn't hate it? It was already I didn't hate it. I just hated the fact that like he he bitches and moans about how much he loves Sue and then he just never He never gets there. He just loves it and he's killed two people. Yeah, exactly. He's hit a body and murdered a body. I think he loved the idea of Sue more than Sue. I think so. He just like had he he's a he's a weak man and he liked having someone around. I think that's accurate. And that's why he was such an easy mark for Vera. Yeah, she marked him. God Vera. Actually I love that name, Vera. That's great. It's a great name. All right. I got a liner. You got a liner. New sponsor! Hey, look, I knew we'd rec we'd recover on time now. Look at that. We're figuring it out. Thanks, Ed. You know, that was the the that was that was the big drag in that uh other epic uh was I think it was the movie talk. I do believe Because you end up getting Well, we just start talking. Right? And that's the whole point of the show. That's why we're all here and that's why you're here. We're talking, we gabbin', we blabbing. All right, well why don't you sponsor liner? Oh boy. Cliff Bannerman's All Night Wicker Emporium. Cliff Bannerman's All Night Witch? Wicker Emporium. Wicker Emporium. Love it. We're open. Don't ask why. It's 2 37 AM. Bad decisions are circling. We've got chairs that creak with authority, baskets that feel personal, and patio sets that suggest everything is under control. Why wicker? You're here, aren't you? Other stores close, we don't. Other people hesitate, we complete the set. Come in, touch something woven. Leave with a story you can't quite defend. Cliff Bannerman's all-night wicker emporum. If you found it, it's already too late. I don't know if you grew grew up in a wicker house, probably not. Uh no, but you know, because my era I grew up adjacent to Wicker. My era growing up, there was a lot of like wicker was a big thing. Yeah, I can't say we had We didn't have a full Wicker house, but there was Well, that would be very there were certainly wicker stores. And there was wicker in our house, and Wicker was a we have like wicker, like fake wicker patio furniture. Sure. But we had there was interior furniture that was wicker, and it was very durig, as they say. Yeah, no, I don't say that. I didn't grow up in the atomic era like you did, so exactly. Which is part of our our our thing. He doesn't have that atomic era optimism that I have. No optimism. Oh boy. Okay, so we're getting that liner was for three things that can kick rocks. Well, yeah, I should have said that. Yeah, he didn't though. I didn't, but you did. That's why it works. All right. Three things that can kick rocks on episode 15. Episode 15, the season finale things that kick rocks. These better be good. God, I hope so. Even if they're not good, they're from the heart. There we go. Number one FaceTiming in public. Oh my god. I see it at the damn grocery store. People are shopping for groceries up and down the aisle, and every time I pass someone in the alternate aisle, they Especially like for a conversation. Because I I I the only time thing I will give a caveat to this, specifically when it comes to a grocery store, if it's like a quick little, hey, is this the right one? Okay, thanks, bye. But you don't need to be talking to your grandmother. I do that with Mrs. uh Mrs. Tube Socks just this past Sunday when I was doing the grocery shopping. There was something on the list that I needed clarification, or it says make sure it doesn't have this or this. But I just snap a pick, text it to her, keep going, then she texts back, yep, that's fine. Or, oh no, it's got that in it. Can you find something else? Okay. Yeah, I guess. But I still don't open up my screen. And and these people are just, I've seen people that from the start of entering the store to the whole journey on a FaceTime call. They're just and all camera and all volume the most loud. Oh. Maxed out. And you know what? I I don't think he listens, but a man I put might work with might do this sometimes. Oh, that's hideous. Number two. Bidets. Nope. I cannot agree with you on that. They are an incredible invention. I have no time in my life for that. A bird shits on your hand. What do you do? Just wipe it off and go about your day? Nope. You wash your hand, case closed, you're wrong. Next. I don't need that kind of awkwardness. Why is it awkward? You hate being clean? We don't need to get into that. And number three, cauliflower masquerading as other food. Like a cauliflower mashed potato? Or cauliflower pizza crust or cauliflower buffalo wings. Just be cauliflower. Be confident enough in yourself. You know what? You're just cauliflower. Yeah, the product itself has a place. I love cauliflower. Don't call yourself something you're not. Don't try to be something you're not. Like nut milk. Like nut milk. You're not milk at all. The buffalo wing one. That's a good one. Cauliflower buffalo wing. Nope, you're just spicy cauliflower. Spicy cauliflower. You're not cauliflower wings. You did not come off of a cauliflower chicken. You're just What's a drumlet look like on a cut on a cauliflower? Give me the flats. Just give me your cau spicy cauliflower. Spicy cauliflower. Buffalo style cauliflower, not cauliflower wings. It's not cauliflower pizza crass. Well, it is, but then it's not pizza crass. It's mashed cauliflower. Just stop it. Piss off with cauliflower. Be what you are. Piss off with cauliflower. Here's a message for the kids out there. Be who you are and what you are. Don't let them in. Don't say you're a wing if you're not a wing. Just be spicy, you. God damn it. Oh, alright. I feel as though that's a fitting way to end this season. Cauliflower. All right. Well, we yeah, look at that. We're on perfect time now. I think we uh We nailed it. We got a little bit of time here. Um, we gotta close things up here. I know, but before we do that, just uh a quick little what was your best favorite part of the season? Episode 15. We made a whole season here. You know, I know we're gonna have eclipse shows with you know our some of our favorite little little moments and stuff, but like anything jump out to you? I don't think anything particularly jumped out. The whole experience has jumped out. Damn it, that's what I was gonna say. It's just been I mean, I mean, we're new to the well, we're not new now. We're 15 episodes in. We're cage of veterans here, right? We've been doing this for months. Month, month, month. We get a Nordic accent there. I don't know what that is. All of a sudden I'm Sven Beauvergaard. Months. I don't know. It was fun. I mean I mean, we've had some highs and lows as technologically speaking. Yeah, well, there was the whole audio episode and then there was the video episode. There was the video episode and a little deep dive here. I know in that episode we said we only went about 10, 15 minutes into that one before we uh got the we recorded the whole damn show. Yeah, we did it all, folks. So we had to record the whole damn show again. Yeah, which is tough. Very difficult when you don't have the natural reaction to jokes. I mean, I think as true as two consummate pros, we kind of nailed it, and you guys didn't even know it till we told you. But uh that one was uh episode three, I believe. That was an early learning experience. Early flick in the nuts. The audio one also bad. Um Edgar breaking into the studio. That wasn't great. Wasn't great. Um I don't know, it was just it was fun. It's been a good time. We had a lot of laughs, which you'll see uh you'll see some of those in the in the clip show. Yeah, do we want to uh talk about our well actually first let's go into a couple other things and we can revisit this about what's coming up. Yeah, let's let's do it. As always, like, comment, and subscribe. Do it, click the button, click the thumb. Drop us a line. You know our email address is always right there. Well, not always right there, but what's there when we put it there? It's there right now. What's the email address, youke? Biguke.tubesocks at gmail.com. Perfect. And our buzz sprout page. Do it, buzz buzz. There it is. Wing. Uh that is where our audio episodes are housed. Of course, you can find them in other places as well. Like Spotify, Apple Music, uh, iHeart, Deezer. Actually, had a new one. Please tell me it was from Deezer. No, it was called uh Damn it. Outcast, I think. Outcast. Like the band was it spelled with a cake? No, it was Outcast. Apparently it's a podcast. Damn it. We asked you to go on Deezer, not Outcast, but thank you for listening. Man, we had two new uh podcast platforms I've heard of. But anyways, if you're on our Buzzsprout, you can also message us there. There's uh he's basically sending us a text message. So if you're scared to send us an email and we can track you down. This is just basically virtually anonymous. Send us a message. So do it. And if you wanted to support us financially, there's a little button you can hit on there. How does that work? Maybe she's the two. I'm not hearing it. Anyways. Anyways, for a small monthly subscription, you can choose a denomination, whatever's comfortable. Keep the lights on. Keeps the lights on. Keeps the beers cold. Keeps us in beers keeps Edgar a safe distance away. We go through a lot of beers. Well, we're just gonna actually, if we get enough subscribers, we're gonna put in a fence between us and Edgar. Just for our safety. Right. Anyways. Also, uh apart from all those podcasting places and the YouTube, uh, Saturday afternoons, 2 30 p.m. on the EST audio channels, uh, on their website, there's a link that has our recent episode, and you can also get access to all of our other ones. Uh, you can hear our replay of our show there. As we are a friend of EST. And speaking of EST, I would be remiss if in our uh season finale didn't give a shout-out to young Matt Awanick for young Matthew Hawanick getting this thing off the ground. He was a driving force in uh getting this whole shinding started. Consultations and uh just a little guidance, and uh we had our ideas and we had our plan, but he helped us uh turn it into uh a snaps for a wannick in honor of how they do it. Of what they do on their show. What are you uh what are you listening to on the drive home today on this big momentous day? Honestly, I'm just gonna listen to a very celebratory track. It's just called Celebratory Track. Wow. I've on the show. It's a playlist. Sorry, no, it's not a track. It's a playlist called Celebratory Track. Uh that is just celebratory tunes. Okay. Because we made it through season one. Fifteen episodes. There we go. Like, I just I mean, I'm just gonna I'm gonna you know what? The weather's getting nice. I might even roll the window down a little bit. Holy shit. I'm not popping the top yet. No. A little early for that. But the window down, a little little little air in the hair. And uh rock out with some celebratory tunes. Sounds nice. What about yourself there, mister? I'm going all in on the Ramones today. Ooh, I know they are. Um if any of you guys know me, and uh eight to twelve of you do, to me, they're the guys on the highest mountain with the brightest torch. And uh anyways, I haven't uh really dug into them in a while, so I've got a nice eighty or ninety track Ramones playlist on my Spotify page that I will put a link down below. Two of any other like-minded individuals love the Ramones like I do. Eight to twelve, you might. I was uh fortunate enough to see them uh three or four times in my uh earlier days and uh back in the old Stomp of Grounds? Back back in the Stomp Grounds and a couple times out here as well. Oh shit! Yes. Anyways I like that. So before we close off, what what's coming up now? We got this is our last fresh episode of Episode 15, finale of season one. Next week, at Thursday. Not episode 16. Well episode one of clip show. Part one. I guess technically episode 16. We'll call it 16. We'll call it it'll be labeled as 16 just you know for algorithms and stuff. But it'll be part one of a clip show extravaganza. We've got two clip shows coming up over the next two weeks as Yuk and I recharge our batteries and uh, you know, get haircuts and whatnot, take care of some personal grooming. Uh and then the week after that, we'll have another clip show. Another clip show, part two of the clip show. Clip show extravaganza. After that, we'll be back with fresh episodes of the show. Season two, episode one. We start again. Let's go! With a fresh look and a fresh vibe. Not too fresh. Not too fresh, but us. Us refreshed for sure. Some new segments, perchance. Couple. Sprinkling in some new in new content. And of course the old reliables. We're not gonna go away from what got us here. I'd like to think that we've got a good uh we've got a good layout already for for season two. I think it's it's better planned than season one because we're learning along the way. And I really think we hit our stride later in the season as far as how to lay out the show content. So oh, big time. And we're uh we're a different organization than we were a mere 15 weeks ago. Absolutely. When we debuted January 2026. Exactly. Uh yeah. Less flying by the seat of our pants. Still a bit, though. Little, a little bit. Yeah, so over over the next couple weeks, uh, you know. Enjoy the clip shows, please. Please enjoy the clip shows. They're fun to put together. Keep an eye out on our socials. We'll be maybe dropping some stuff. We'll be hanging around. You never know. Alrighty. Well, is that it? I think that's a wrap on uh on season one. All right. Congratulations, sir. We did it. Alright, we'll play us out there, folks.

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Now let's grab a drink.

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Uh let's go in a way.