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What Were We Saying?
204: A Bullet for El Diablo - A First Guest. A Different Format. A Show Milestone.
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For the first time in show history, WWWS welcomes a guest - a development many had begun to suspect was purely theoretical.
In this Very Special Episode, Big Uke & Tubesox sit down with Lieutenant Eric from Edmonton Sports Talk for a conversation that quickly outgrows the show's usual boundaries. What started as a guest appearance turned into the longest episode in WWWS history, which seemed like a better idea than stopping a perfectly good conversation just because the clock (or Edgar) said so.
There are no rankings, no movie assignments, and no scheduled grievances this week. Just three people talking about sports, broadcasting, life, and whatever else wanders into the room and grabs a microphone.
A first guest. A different format. A milestone for the show.
The segments will be back next week.
For now, you'll have to settle for an extra fifteen minutes of WWWS.
Keep your expectations low. This is still WWWS.
Welcome to what were you saying? He's Big Youth. He's so far away now, but he's Tooth Docs. You may or may not notice that we have brought out the guest chair.
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SPEAKER_05You know what that means. Actually, you don't, you've never seen it.
SPEAKER_04Right, we've never brought it out before. We just meant storage for a long time.
SPEAKER_05Edgar's been sitting on it, which is a bit of a weird dent in it, but.
SPEAKER_04We're uh coming at you live from the fourth floor of Blunderworks Studios in where are we, youke? Sunny downtown! Sunny downtown, and you know, I hope you've been doing an alright job of keeping cool all week.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's been tough. The AC's just been cranked up.
SPEAKER_04Holy shit. Uh behind the camera, we got Edgar Lasseter, aka the Chairman. Among others. And we also have Harold Winthrop and the Silver Astray Orchestra playing us in. They've done their stint at the Chuck E. Cheese off Old Mill Road. And their Rejoin Society and their uh rejoins a bit of a stretch. It's tough.
SPEAKER_06Anyways, our streak of having absolutely no guests is officially over. But joining us tonight, he's one of the busiest guys in the business.
SPEAKER_05A pros pro. A co-host of the Nielsen show with Lieutenant Eric and one of the Aiky Breaky podcast.
SPEAKER_06Hey oh. Yet he somehow still found time for us. You know him, you love him. Ladies and gentlemen, Lieutenant Eric.
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SPEAKER_06Oh my god. Woo! The gifts are both. There is more than just the two of us on screen for the first time in history.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'd heard about this beer that's a very it was an extensive process to get a private label. You know, oh there we go. I think that curtain is our uh our bottling line.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they've been quiet during our recording, so it's good. That's a good beer you guys have made.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we uh we researched it a lot. Trial and error, man. Trial and error.
SPEAKER_03It tastes like Edgar's lips. I know I I guess I'm the first guest, but uh he kisses everybody on the lips when you show up, and I like it. He's very he's I guess we didn't warn you about that.
SPEAKER_06He's very familiar.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, open mouth and it's I mean makes you feel like home, man.
SPEAKER_04Feels like home. God damn it. Yeah. Well, this is this is so exciting. Before we uh start our conversation, do you got a liner to read there, uh, Mr. Yuk?
SPEAKER_05I do have something to say.
SPEAKER_04Because this segment, you know, we had a lot of people hopping on board wanting to sponsor this segment.
SPEAKER_05I mean, it's the guest chair. It's the guest chair. People people want to be a part of this. And uh the first sponsor of the guest chair, a return sponsor, looking to elevate your dining experience while remaining below ground. Welcome to the fondue pit, the only revolving fondue restaurant in the city, and the only revolving restaurant in the world located entirely in a basement. That is such a bold move.
SPEAKER_06Wow.
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SPEAKER_04It's like Edgar's working the controls.
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SPEAKER_04Well, thank you, Fondue Pit, and thank you, Lieutenant Eric, for blessing us on the setup.
SPEAKER_03What camera do I look into?
SPEAKER_04Ah, she's just straight up. Various. Oh yeah. Yeah, just straight up.
SPEAKER_05Edgar's gonna try to distract you, but don't let it happen.
SPEAKER_06He is a distraction.
SPEAKER_05The wind drop band.
SPEAKER_03Do they do funerals? I'm interested. I oh my goodness. I've known a few people who have passed, and I was wondering if they do like celebration of life.
SPEAKER_05Well, funnily enough, they've done three of their own crew, so Okay. Well, so they're season. They're season. They know how to by the hour.
SPEAKER_04Usually I find it funny that I hadn't been to funerals in a, you know, there's a big span where I hadn't gone to any funerals, and then all of a sudden within two years I've been to five funerals. But they they've all been guys from the pub.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's all like just old guys passing on. Yeah. Well, oh, I guess we're going to the Legion again for the send-on.
SPEAKER_03More of a wake. You know, those guys age.
SPEAKER_04It's kind of, and then we sit around the bar and everyone kind of looks and kind of you know, you got your dead pool going on.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I think he's next. Like every you ever just move up a seat, right? It's like a meat draw. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely. Where do you guys keep your board of who's got money on who?
SPEAKER_04Uh it's behind the bar. Carrie takes care of all that. She's very organized.
SPEAKER_05I mean, you have to be, or else it's just gonna you people are gonna start claiming they called someone's death before, and then it just turns into anarchy inside your trading. Right? Exactly. You snuffed them. The collusion on death pools is just it's a plague to society, just like that camel thing from a few episodes back. Be unification. The beautification scandal of camels. A multi-million dollar business.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if you caught that or not. If I don't know how tuned in you are to the WS lore, but well, no, I mean Bitcoin's a thing and there's a lot of Or Ethrium if you're one of those people.
SPEAKER_03Right. I mean, it's all kind of under the under the board.
SPEAKER_04My goodness.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, this is I mean, the studio is great. I I gotta say, like, I mean you had no trouble parking? I had no I had lots of trouble, actually. What? Yeah, uh Edgar emailed me. Like when okay, so just uh he sent me the proposal and I saw a lot of zeros, and I mean, how could I resist? And it was all zeros. Actually, that's it was a lot of zeros. No other numbers. And I said, well, how can I so he said, you know, show up and I'll uh take the car, and I I showed up here uh and he didn't uh you know he wasn't outside to meet, so I had to kind of find a place. I parked in the field actually, uh three blocks down and then ran here.
SPEAKER_04You've got to be careful because the guys that work the trains there, yeah, they've been known to move cars.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, I know we're in kind of a uh I mean it's downtown, right? So we're kind of you never know what's never what's around each corner. So it doesn't take the shuttle down then.
SPEAKER_06Oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh, this is on the floor. I love what you've done with the place.
SPEAKER_04It's I mean it's uh You know, we've moved because the last season we were on the fifth floor. That's right, yes. Now we're on the fourth floor. Yes.
SPEAKER_05I think this is the first time you've actually said it, the fact that we were on the fifth before. I don't know if people really caught on to that moving on down.
SPEAKER_04Although in our in our warm-ups we were in the parking garage for a bit and then we moved to the lobby, the vestibule, and then up to the fifth.
SPEAKER_05Well, they kicked us out for a bit, actually. Then we got back in. We told them we weren't gonna bring Egner, so he has coming through the back door. Probably wasn't why he wasn't there to pick it up. That's there you go, and now it all adds up, yeah. It all makes sense.
SPEAKER_04So, in all seriousness, this is uh very exciting to have an established uh media mogul magnet uh ease up a bit.
SPEAKER_03I graduated from Nate, and hey that's about it.
SPEAKER_05What's wrong with Nate?
SPEAKER_03No, no, nothing wrong with that. I mean, I got my certificate, but I uh, you know, it's uh And you've turned that certificate to a time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean I you know I I consider us all friends and you know it's funny because I've been thinking, you know, when we're planning to have you on. And thinking back to the 1260 days and the early awkward meetings, right? When no one was really comfortable, no one was really familiar, right? You know, like everyone just kind of dipping their toe in it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, going up to the brew house every Monday and Thursday and uh and everyone's sitting on the room.
SPEAKER_04Fergie sitting at the end of the bar, me sitting at the other end of the bar.
SPEAKER_05No one's yeah, well that was back when everyone was just a number and handle. It was until the first nasty bash that that was and even that one, like thinking back to that one versus anything since. Like that was still so like everyone was so late, like back on their haunches a bit. And then what? Then last year I was getting beer dumped on my head shirtless. Like it just we've all come full circle.
SPEAKER_04I wish we uh had the pictures of that because that's something we could use in promos to really get the view counter.
SPEAKER_03I I've seen a few. I somebody's got them.
SPEAKER_04I've never seen any. I mean I saw it happen firsthand, but I never saw it.
SPEAKER_05Well, there's definitely you've yeah there's definitely uh video and photographic evidence. You can hear Norm in the background chanting, take it off. And then as soon as the last button comes undone, put it back on. Like, oh well, that's just a kick in the nuts. Hot night. Those are always a fun time though.
SPEAKER_04So since then, I mean, yeah, that was funny the awkwardness of all that, but I I gotta ask, I mean, you you've been doing like the on-the-road things a lot, you know, at the at the football and whatnot.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04There's gotta be like really awkward interactions that that you just be in the pro yard, you kinda We can swear on this, eh? Oh, sure. Fuck. No, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of like you're a real trooper sometimes because I've seen you like cornered a few times, and I think I'm not getting too close. I'll let Eric sort this out.
SPEAKER_03It's not an official title, but I consider myself a liaison of of such to go out and I I like doing that stuff. Grand ambassador. Yeah, masked spot if you I don't wear the smash smash or or whatever, but I get a heat. That fan doesn't do the trick. Um But no, I mean there's there's been times. For the most part, it's fine. I mean, you get to know people, you have a few drinks.
SPEAKER_04You're a personable guy, but there's gotta be some people that just that just don't get it. And just like, hey, there's that there's that guy.
SPEAKER_03And actually, at the end of the day, too, that's where it can be a lot of fun, where you just kind of play a lot of it. I mean, that's that's the I mean we went to Mexico, met some newer people down there, and and going out to now Selly Sports Bar and Lounge, Central Casino, Four Road, Carnival Atmosphere. Um not a sponsor of this show. No, no, yeah, yeah. Well yet. But maybe maybe they're who knows? Who's to say? Capture the taste. But lots of places. Elks games, yeah, Riverhawks games, um, even walking in West Edmonton Mall a few times with the wife, and that can, you know, kind of odd.
SPEAKER_05At least you're expecting to get noticed at a sporting event. Versus if you're necessarily walking through the mall with with your wife. That was a good thing.
SPEAKER_03That's just it. Hey. Well, or a gas station in uh in a street or whatever. Like, you know. And someone feels they need to really I need to engage with that matter. Because you don't think about it. Yeah, you go to a game and you're like, oh yeah, natural. But uh yeah, there's there's the odd place where it's kind of weird, but what would you say the oddest place you've ever been?
SPEAKER_05You've ever been kind of recognized or noticed.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, probably like uncomfortable like I really wish this wasn't happening now, but but you're still such a gentleman that you you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there's a guy that listens to us, Pat, and he's uh in Saskatoon. And I was drinking alone at a karaoke lounge in Saskatoon one night, and he kind of follows me on social media, so he knew I was gonna be there and he showed up randomly, and then I pretended I didn't know who he was. So and I was like, who are you again? And he left me alone.
SPEAKER_05But I didn't really want to talk to him. I mean, fair.
SPEAKER_03I went to drink on my own. I didn't want to, like, you know.
SPEAKER_04And you're not out there representing work at that point. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03You're just living your life. And this wasn't a random happenstance.
SPEAKER_04I mean, again, he knew, so he kind of We have a guy that writes into the show that uh Trevor. Our Trevor, he tends to uh He's creepy. Our Trevor? Not our Trevor.
SPEAKER_05No, but no, but our Trevor Burrus. Okay. Not not our Trevor. That's Trevor. That Trevor's not creepy. Handwritten letters? Well, I think it was with written with blood the first time.
SPEAKER_04Just wanting to, you know, hook up at our pub and we talk about, you know.
SPEAKER_05But he also didn't really want to talk to us if that was weird. He would just sit and watch us. From a you know, a distance, just observe. Does he wear an eye patch?
SPEAKER_04I got it. We haven't met him. I can't resist sending you pictures of the eye patch guy when I see him. And the last thing is like those Gloria Vanderbilt frames he's wearing. Or those ladies' frames? Those butterfly frames.
SPEAKER_03I used to do community radio in Saskatoon, and I actually got handwritten letters every week from a guy in the mental hospital. And he would he would he'd it'd great penmanship and it'd be like a page long, and he'd hello, how are you doing? And he'd go on, and he always wanted to hear this one band, I can't recall the name, never heard of them before. Uh never got around to playing them either, because I'd never heard of them. But he would write every week, handwritten, from the mental hospital. It was cursive? Did you ever respond with it? No, I couldn't. I didn't I didn't really want to, but he knew he'd listen and I'd make I'd make a known, like, hey, I read your letter, and unfortunately I can't.
SPEAKER_04So you'd reach out to him over the airwaves. Yeah, yeah. So the relationship and you know, have him get angry.
SPEAKER_03Well, I don't want to have knowledge, you just said that's nice. Yeah, so it was feeding his But it's nice to get a handwritten letter.
SPEAKER_04Well, yeah, you don't get the letter as you guys get from drop it in the mail and your tread. Oh my goodness. You know, one of my favorite uh things in a mental hospital that ever happened.
SPEAKER_05I love where this is going.
SPEAKER_04Well, no, but the music thing, it was a uh you're familiar with the cramps. Fantastic band. One of my favorites of all time. And uh they have a video, you can find it on online. They played a gig in a mental hospital in like 1978 or something. Beauty.
SPEAKER_05That's a that's crazy. Is that when you're at your like is that a high or a low for the case?
SPEAKER_04Well, they was they were just starting out and they're like, hey, let's do something different. So they got in touch with the people at this institution. We'd like we'd like to play a show here. And they're like, okay, sure, yeah. The people would like it. And the video's bizarre because there's just you know the crowd went wild.
SPEAKER_03Well, there's just- Oh gosh! It was an insane night.
SPEAKER_04It it is a little bit uncomfortable in parts, but otherwise, like, these guys are having the freaking time in their lives. The band's having fun, and these like it's like uh one float of the cuckoo's nest, like that kind of look. And the people are dressed in like the white gowns, and they're just like kind of zombie walking around past the band and grooving and bopping, and it's like the kid in the old folks film doing the magic tricks and they're loving it. It doesn't need to be.
SPEAKER_03Holy shit. I meant to go, I had yard work, and I kind of didn't want to spend any money. But uh what a I meant to I I wanted to go, but what a great weekend.
SPEAKER_04The last time I went, because they were here a couple years ago, and I went with my oldest boy. Yeah. And uh this time I went with the younger guy, and it's it was so funny to see them to see him like starstruck by Eddie Spaghetti. Because he grew up listening to him, just being a-shame's Eddie Spaghetti. Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_03And how old he's they've been around.
SPEAKER_04They established 1988, right? As Eddie said in the show, and still looking good, like they're they've still doing it. We've been doing this forever, yeah. Since the 1900s, you know, and uh, anyways, it was awesome to see my kids like, oh my god, that's that's and he knew the words to every frickin' song. Absolutely. Even though he's never seen them live just because he grew up in the Tube Sox house. He's like, Oh, I hope they play. He rattled off like five songs that he's like, I hope they play, and goddammit, they played all of them in a single tear early in your head. I was just like, I knew I'm I'm doing something. That's a hell of a moment. It was great. Yeah, that was that was fun. That was at the Starlight it was at the Starlight, yeah.
SPEAKER_05I'm glad you got to have that moment with that one.
SPEAKER_04With that one. Yeah, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05Where was the other one?
SPEAKER_04He's even better. Oh well, he was competing competing in the karaoke world championships right now.
SPEAKER_03Hey, yeah, I heard you mention that.
SPEAKER_04So he uh Well, did you see his Instagram today? Yes.
SPEAKER_05Frickin' advancing to the provincial.
SPEAKER_04He's off to the provincials.
SPEAKER_03Okay, world championship, but he's off to the provincial. How does this work?
SPEAKER_04Because there's cities, and there's provincials, then there's nationals.
SPEAKER_03It's all part of the world. But he's here now for that.
SPEAKER_04Well, he's he's clearly advanced through the cities. He's in the provincials now, national Calgary in July. So you you choose your own like library or is it a random thing and no, it's he chooses what he does that's you know, plays to his strengths and whatnot. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Does he just do the same song every time?
SPEAKER_04No, he's got a he's yeah, I mean knowing him, I imagine he could.
SPEAKER_05He probably went to just does tequila.
SPEAKER_04It's pretty funny though, because I had no idea this is a thing. I don't I think he didn't either, he just kind of stumbled upon it went out at Kelly's. Yeah, okay. And he always goes to Kelly's Sunday nights. And then after last night we went, we were in in Millwoods at the pub he was at because it was an all-afternoon thing for the the play downs. And then afterwards we went downtown to meet his roommate at uh a fine establishment, uh Bianco. Oh, yeah. Lovely place. Anyways, and then we had some eats and drinks there, and then he joined us uh downtown once he was done, you know, mingling once he got the results. So yeah, so he's off to provincials and then.
SPEAKER_03Never in doubt, though, right?
SPEAKER_04Like, oh, never in doubt.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he should get to this.
SPEAKER_04And he was wearing uh Wayne Newton's pocket square. That Wayne Newton has.
SPEAKER_03How do you lose when you're wearing Wayne Newton's? Right? The smell alone is intoxicating by the judges. I assume I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_04You know, it's funny when he came back from Vegas and he had Wayne Newton's pocket square, for about a month afterwards it still smelled like Wayne's cologne. Like it must have just been marinated.
SPEAKER_05Just drenched, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And they pull it out of a bucket, bring it out.
SPEAKER_05This is yours now, soaked in a souvette.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they send it in a bag, yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't mean to get you. I know, like, uh I don't know what like uh No, there's no format here.
SPEAKER_04No, okay, I didn't see that. This is uh this is a a very special episode where there is no regular format. We got no bits.
SPEAKER_05I mean, let's be honest, our regular episodes don't have much of a format. It's yeah, kick it around, eh? That was one of the things around from a letter that how we need that need to stay on topic more in our regular segments. It's funny because the last one. Then we almost immediately went out to a different topic.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. They often criticize at the same time, give us props. So it's a very weird It's hey, I love what you're doing, but if you could do this, this, or this better, or hey, I don't really dig this, although I did stick around and watch another episode. Like, all right.
SPEAKER_03It's a weird, lovely Welcome to the club. You know, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So in your your EST world, when you guys had that uh well, the formation of EST. Yeah. That that summer, that had to be one of the oddest summers around. But were you excited about it, or were you like, what the what the F were we doing? Well, uh It probably went all over the place, I would think.
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SPEAKER_04Maybe on a daily basis. Like up to the launch. Changed every day, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_03That's something. This was something that we knew was coming, so we weren't caught off guard the day that's fair. I mean, we we I didn't wasn't expecting then, but so we had talked before, and we knew the uh the transmitter there for uh for us was kind of it was a flight hazard thing. Yeah, and and so it was gonna fall over and it was gonna cost like a million dollars to replace. And they were gonna replace it. So we're like, okay, well, clearly either that falls over or whatever, something's gonna happen soon. So then it happened one morning, and Tommy was hosting. That was a crazy was on the golf course, and I got the uh AJ Jacky was waiting to come on. AJ Jack, we I just did the weekly rankings of power, it was 850 or something. You're getting in an hour four, and then uh I always that makes a lot of mess. And you don't clean up the bottles afterwards either. Like there's glass all over the place here. That's why we all that's why we wear shoes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the ones that don't break, we let Edgar take them in. Yeah. But we make him peel the labels off because the money I'm gonna use them.
SPEAKER_05But we don't we we his offer was similar to your offer. Lot of zeros. A lot of zeros.
SPEAKER_03And that's it. Uh but oh, and then we got a tippity-tap with the GM on the glass, and then we went to the thing, we went to the meeting. And um, you know, Dustin was obviously golfing in in BC. What a way to ruin around. Yeah, well, no shit. And uh so he um he got the call. And it was kind of it was all done really rather um, wasn't really planned perfectly, as some staff were here, and then he was in there, and everybody was so kind of like a bomb went off. And then um, I mean what usually happens on radio when you're when you're when you're gassed, you're kind of let out immediately. We weren't we were allowed to kind of um gather our things and gather our thoughts. And so I'm going down.
SPEAKER_05I said it probably would have been because you guys weren't fired with replacements coming in right after you, like shutting the shuttle.
SPEAKER_04We're literally turning off the lights in this part of the building.
SPEAKER_03But the issue with this is, and I never really understood it, now I do. I was I walked downstairs with my little box of trinkets and uh the sweet receptionist Patricia uh at the time uh she goes, Hello, Eric, how are you're leaving quite early? And I said, Well, I got fired, and uh so that happened, and she's like, Oh, and she goes, Oh, how did that and I said, Well, you know, we were some we had a meeting scheduled or something like that along those lines, and she goes, Oh, I have a meeting scheduled later this morning. Oh no. So I effectively told her you fired Patricia. And that's the issue. That's why they want to lead you out of the building without talking to you. They don't want to do that. So I and then I felt like a jackass because I here I fired sweet old Patricia pretty much, and then she got the boot later that day. I remember Patricia when you come by and you give some friends at the time. Yeah, yeah, she was awesome. And so she got laid off too. And so it's just like, well, fuck, like that's why you you take people, you usher them out and you're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_05She didn't want to come be the receptionist for you guys, or uh we never reached out.
SPEAKER_03I think she she's moved on to bigger and brighter things, I'm sure. But then no, so moving forward, like we had always discussed about you know when it happens, a contingency plan. But then that summer um uh we hung out and and we discussed it and and that was funny because the bash was planned before that. You guys did the go the Twitter videos the you just made the list.
SPEAKER_05Yep, got all lined up really good.
SPEAKER_03So that that kind of coincided with that. So that all worked, and then we used the Aiky Breaky to kind of further our uh online presence or whatever. Where can we find that, by the way?
SPEAKER_00Uh I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Well, you it's out there. There are still uh archived episodes, but uh no new ones, but uh Yeah, that's a that's a problem. It is a problem. It's not gonna get rectified anytime sooner than the other. Yeah, I know, but I know, but Still's a busy man, and I've been. Oh, doing what? Well, he's got calling 19 different sports. Well, that's so and then yeah, so then the banish that summer, and then we all kind of and then that kind of happened and and away we go.
SPEAKER_05So I still rewatch that video probably once a year of the the AM Nasty Will Return. It's a hell of a punch. And just the the roar from that crowd. Well, electric. Yes. Oh, that was uh such a it like we knew there was an announcement of sorts. You guys were too. Easy to wrap your mind around it. But not that it was gonna be.
SPEAKER_04My mind was slightly wrapped because I you were connecting dots a bit.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'd been asked to do some designs. I was gonna say if you knew behind the curtain, then it was a different thing. Yes.
SPEAKER_05But I think everyone anticipated you you guys would all show up somewhere doing something. Yeah. Even if it was just continuing the shows that were there and adding a couple other little podcasts the way they had been laid out. Yeah. Which I guess is kind of what has happened with those shows still being a part of your schedule. But gosh, that was just what a time that that that that moment. That was a pop. The oh goodness. Yeah. That rugby club, man.
SPEAKER_04But so ultimately there was what about how much time between the canning and the and what's the city?
SPEAKER_05It was September 6th. It was the the Wednesday after uh Labor Day. Because Dusty took day one off to take the kids to school, and it was that that Wednesday.
SPEAKER_04I mean there's people bitching at him about that, which is odd to me. But people like to bitch about stuff. Oh, people do. You know, they're like, oh, what is he? Oh, we can't even like, dude.
SPEAKER_03And if he didn't do that, people would bitch about it. Like, oh, you can't even take your kids to school? Right? Yeah, there's no there's no. You're always gonna get something. But no, it was a good summer. I watched the entire uh season of Lost or all the like, you know, that was my thing. I I laid on the couch and my wife would go to work and I just kind of sat there and collected my bell checks and but so how much time did you have before, you know, from the axing to the knowing that, okay, we've got a plan.
SPEAKER_04Was it like six weeks, two months?
SPEAKER_03No, pretty much that day. I mean, I I called Dusty after that, and he's like, don't, don't because there are a few people that reached out to me personally, and I'm sure probably Maddie and everything, and and everything, and we were don't do anything. We're got we're we're gonna start getting things uh rolling here, and and we did. And so yeah, as I said, it was all kind of pre-planned, not not entirely as well.
SPEAKER_04No, but you had a loose idea of hey, if something goes down, yeah, there's nobody jump ship yet, there's a garbage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, what you guys have built, it's amazing. It's fantastic.
SPEAKER_05It really is incredible.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's it's it's good. And and then there's been people, I mean, it's I don't want to say like but the bar stool model of of doing things online. And now the show's on cruise, which is good. Hopefully we can get some more programming on there, but traditional radio is kind of I mean you know so uh they'll I mean it's all it it's much like it's the snake eating the tail again, where yeah, all these places will get people to come back on and it'll just be you having to do everything without them hiring you, and yeah. So it's just I don't know, it's a weird thing.
SPEAKER_04It's probably getting pretty close to how it was before, but just without having the corporate overlord. Right, which is great. You guys are steering the ship, but politics are much better.
SPEAKER_03Well, sure. Yeah. So yeah. The uh the cleaning schedule is much different. But I clean the latrines today. There we go. Keep them spotless.
SPEAKER_05You know you've done it well when you can do a draft on who's doing what and there's 300 people watching it live. Those are fun. For 20 minutes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So we don't want to make this an entire thing about you know, you want to make it about you. You know, re-reliving the setup, but I you know, people like to know, and not everyone's heard the stories.
SPEAKER_03Exactly, yeah.
SPEAKER_04But we didn't bring you on here just specifically to grill you about about that. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03And it was a good it was good to have a little break, to be honest. Like it was nice to have a lot of things. The summer of Eric.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that was one of my questions. When was the last time you would have had a break like that between?
SPEAKER_03I got a week off in summer and a week off in Christmas. So it's kind of like it was nice to kind of clear my head and not pay attention to anything and shut them off. And as I said, watch Lost. I never watched the final episode though. That was the problem. I've never watched that show. Well, it it's weird, have you? Shocked. Uh I've seen bits and pieces.
SPEAKER_05Never like sat through.
SPEAKER_03It really goes off. But then like I felt the final episode really tied things together, and I never got around to watching it, so now I'm kind of hooped.
SPEAKER_04But one of my favorite shows, actually, I was scrolling through Prime the other day, looking for something to assign you for our next segment. Um, but I see that on it's one of the descriptions. Oh uh Hell on Wheels is back on Prime. Hell on Wheels. Oh, that is the one about the railroad. That was a great I I've I dabbled in that. I've walked that through its entirety, and I would uh I think it's on like stars or something.
SPEAKER_05Does it give you flashbacks to what you were there building?
SPEAKER_04When I was there helping with the Continental Railroad. Talk about work hard, play hard. Those railway guys in the 1860s, Jesus Christ. No smartphones, no smart like just sweating their bag off all day and then drinking a gallon of whiskey at night and waking up four hours later and you're back in the sun and you're all wearing like these like tweed pants and you know there's no hell of a workout regimen.
SPEAKER_03Like you'd get cut and you'd get a good tan.
SPEAKER_04All you'd eat is cured meats, not a vegetable to be seen while that railroad's getting built. No.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_04The braver ones would get to do the uh the nitro when they started to hoist them up into the into the caves to drop it into the little holes.
SPEAKER_03You could sell that as like a workout regimen, I think. Like you could eat P90X 60 Days? Sign up.
SPEAKER_0560 days building rail lines.
SPEAKER_04But that's one of the few contemporary shows that I uh you know, I don't really watch a lot of contemporary television.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's the least surprising thing I've learned today.
SPEAKER_04True. This is uh not news to anybody, but but that one I like it. Even though like I I mean I I don't even like new westerns per se, because I just don't like the way they look. Like even though it's like okay, it's an old timey thing. But I don't like the look of it and decide I don't know. I'd rather watch an actual 60s or something. You know what I mean? Like they overdo the the look of it. You're more of a border town guy. Matlock. It looks too Is that it? I don't know. Like it like they're trying too hard to give it some grittiness and just I don't know, it seems forced lack of spaghetti to your western ear.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Yeah, these checkouts go down pretty good, boys. Wow, that's that homebrew. Edgar, you do a bang up job. I've never seen a man as well with two peg legs. This is the first for me.
SPEAKER_05He is that a story, and he hasn't told us all of it. Like I I still don't know how he lost his finger.
SPEAKER_04The trouble with two peg legs is you never know which way to lean. That's he could not see a show at the Starlight Room because of that sloped floor.
SPEAKER_03Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That'd be a challenge.
SPEAKER_03I can't imagine Doctors when they tap the, you know, there's no reaction. I don't know how that's funny thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_04When we're at the uh Super Sucker show, I realized that I've seen them there probably like eight times over the years. Wow. And like there's been like through five completely different stage setups, like the one at you know, the west's end, and then the one, like the current one now, but that then they had it on the corner for a while.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04On like that sidewall diagonally, and it's always been kind of this was in the main room, then but the uh but the stage used to be at the opposite end, yeah, up at the entrance to like the temple. That's where I saw the Cadillac tramps there a couple times. That was awesome. Saw Dred Zeppelin there.
SPEAKER_05Dred Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_04I drank downstairs with Dred Zeppelin there, and that was amazing. Back before they had the the basement bar, that was just the green room was downstairs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03When the stage was at the other end. No, Tyson uh gotta cheers to him. He's a great promoter and uh he's keeping local music. Well, the the scene alive, I guess. I love that place, and I I know they work hard to say I've ever been keeping it.
SPEAKER_05Unfortunately.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna have to go. In terms of like local places and stuff. And he does a good job promoting local bands, but also bringing in bands such as you know, it's it's just uh well, because Mrs.
SPEAKER_04Mrs. Tupsock still has her Bronx membership card from like 1988. Yes, you know, back when it was it was the Bronx, then it was the Rev, then it was Starlight. It was like, you know, like a social club, right? And it was like five dollars a year or something. Yeah, yeah. Just uh and you do it just to support the venue.
SPEAKER_03It just sucks. I moved here in 2010, and you could go to like five shows any given weekend on White. And I'm sure it was even more so before I moved here, but like just to my part.
SPEAKER_04I love I love going to pawn shop on White. Well, pawn shop, Wonder Bar. The the best well again, back to the super suckers, the best show I ever saw on White Ave was the Super Suckers with Nashville Pussy opening. And their bass player couldn't make it across the border. So Eddie Spaghetti played bass for Nashville Pussy. No, there you go. So he played the full set of Nashville Pussy to standing at the back playing bass, and then they left, and he went for the front of the stage and did his set playing bass and singing. That's just a beautiful. I saw the Bomboras at uh I don't know if you know the Bomboras, they were like a surf revival band. I saw them at uh Pawn Shop.
SPEAKER_03Ian Blurton's come on at Wonder Bar.
SPEAKER_04I've never seen that.
SPEAKER_03So loud, like the windows are rattling. Like it was just and I mean you could buy a pizza pop if you wanted. It was just that was a bit of a big thing.
SPEAKER_04The pawn shop had uh PBR on tap, which I always thought was a nice move. Not many pints.
SPEAKER_05Like PBR on tap.
SPEAKER_04Right? But the bombers there, they were like, you know, like an instrumental surf band. This is mid-90s. But they always had they had a shtick, and every show they'd have different outfits. And the one night we saw them, they were all in black skeleton suits with like you know, under black lights, right? So they had like the green outlines, but with with like full masks on, and they did the whole show like as these glowing skeletons on stage. It was amazing.
SPEAKER_03Showman Savage Henry and the infamous one pounders, Saskatoon? Have you ever No? No? They all bella clavas and they're all in white, kind of mummy-ish. Uh it it's punk, but it it's all of these pla like you can't that's a thing. The stars are. Right, where do you find that? There's no like small hole in the wall. I mean, there's the Avery in places, and and I know Savage. Avery does a good job of local talent.
SPEAKER_04There are a few places, but they do more local stuff than bringing in interesting acts coming through town. Yeah. Right? Because uh but it makes sense because you know there's guarantees and stuff like that. I just I I I weep at night. Well, didn't they at the freaking the old Thunderdome slash central social what not uh well yeah, they brought back the poncha. The poncha, but it's just a branding and name when I first heard oh the poncha's coming back like that. Oh branding because it's a name people back then.
SPEAKER_03It's like what they did around Ice District with uh with uh fuck Druid. Oh the Druid. Like I mean and I've heard that's kind of they used a lot of the same phrase, but it's not the same. But it's not the same. No, it's cleaner and everything. I want the grime. I want the that was Mercer's like it was, right? Yeah, yeah. That that that that place has gone through a few different like reinventing, everybody yeah, you can't reinvent and you can't rebrand the punch up.
SPEAKER_04It was a grimy place. Yeah, that was the game.
SPEAKER_03But that was the thing.
SPEAKER_05It was built up grime. Yeah, you can't manufacture that.
SPEAKER_03The green room was great. Like everything there was just great. And liquid lounge? Saw weed eater there once. Did you ever go to Liquid Lounge? That was off of uh off of Jasper? H2O Lounge on White Avenue. Ever been there? Yes. Yeah, that place sucks.
SPEAKER_05It's fucking awesome. It's awesome, though. That place sucks, but it's great.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man. I I still love going to live bands, and I love taking my like my boys love going. Well, live music. Frickin' Scott H. Byram over for the Super Suckers, goddammit, he's good. If you're not familiar with him, he's a one-man band is gonna be better. And he's just got this dirty, frickin' distorted guitar, and he's just fantastic. He's a guy from Texas.
SPEAKER_03There was a it was called the Baby Seal Club, and it was like it was right off white by Wonder Bar. Yeah, it was just like a little shed. But I saw a lot of good bands playing there, and they had a lot of like art in there that was kind of cool. But it was by um what's the place that made the birdie booze?
SPEAKER_05Oh, the Strath uh was Strathcona Spirits.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was it was kind of in that little nook, and and that's not around anymore. But you can't like you can't operate it because the rent's so high. So you can't like justify a problem with everybody, and I just wish somebody had the the money to exist these places, but well and I growing up on the uh north of Tacoma there.
SPEAKER_04North of Tacoma when I was living there playing in bands of home of the rockets. And there was uh like the one of my favorite venues was the Cruel Elephant, also a great name.
SPEAKER_05These are all great names.
SPEAKER_04Right? And there was just so many cool shows at the Cruel Elephant and so many places in that town that were awesome that just they can't exist anymore because the rents are too high and they can't afford to just be a dive club that brings in bands and you know.
SPEAKER_03And I shouldn't like we all talk like we're old and whatever, but there are still like there are I I've gone to a few shows where there are still like a good amount of youth, like youth youth that are still jamming it out and trying to but it's just yeah, as you mentioned, there's not a lot of places to kind of cut your teeth, so it's yeah, there isn't. You gotta get on a bill at Starlight opening for like Black Mastiff or something. Well that's fine, and they do a good job, like they're local guys too, but but still gotta get there.
SPEAKER_05You don't have that zone.
SPEAKER_03You gotta have an it's one opportunity as opposed to like 15 in the past.
SPEAKER_04So it sucks. Well, both my kids are are musicians. Well, one's you know turned into a karaoke star. Hey. But my other boy, he's you know, getting his he's going to school for music and whatnot, but he's uh been playing gigs and stuff, and he I love that like he's talking about. Sorry, this is our first guest throw.
SPEAKER_03So give it a little caught in the teeth. Perfect.
SPEAKER_04But I love that he loves like since he's been going to uh to school, like he's always been a really good musician since he was like you know eight years old and stuff, right? Playing whatever.
SPEAKER_05I don't think I was good at anything since I was eight. You never been band or anything?
SPEAKER_03Like saxophone or trumpet or anything like that?
SPEAKER_05Oh my sisters played the saxophone. I could play a mean recorder though. Like well, the recorder, yeah. I do I do describe uh I was I was just I had too much just I was in the athletics, man. Clearly such a good athlete. I uh gave up on jock. That's what I yeah, yeah. Yeah, that one year I went without scoring a goal. Super skilled athlete. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Anyways. I do use the term to describe my uh my youngest as uh he's a motherfucker on anything with strings. He can like pick like he's a killer freaking bass player, killer guitar, like plays mandolin, like he's just so good.
SPEAKER_05It's got strings, he'll play it.
SPEAKER_04And both my pedal steel. I've always wanted to play the pedal steel. I've been I would buy him one if I could find a good one because I know he would be all over it. And he'd be all over it because he loves I love that like he's 21 years old and he loves going to see whatever, right? And he he's like got a gig coming up sometime this summer just playing jazz guitar at a sure at an event, you know, and then he'll go to a you know, like he's just open for everything. Yeah, and I love that there's still kids, you know. I think that's more of an art era thing that we're so it it makes me feel good that you know or warms my heart that there's still it's not a you know, because people say, oh, the kids today don't know. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to be put into that.
SPEAKER_04So I love that like and both my boys they just love going to whatever, yeah, up for anything.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, they still exist.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the buck, there's another place you can go. I know your boys, but we played at the buck. I played there for God's sake.
SPEAKER_04That's another good kind of scale. Well, maybe there'll be another time. We're talking. I hope so. There's talks. Hopefully, I'm in country that time.
SPEAKER_05You know, it took me uh it took me a lot to get my uh to get my four hundred dollars a ticket, I was like, What the hell?
SPEAKER_04Jeez, Tube Sox is asking a lot.
SPEAKER_05Well, it's the Buck was only charging 40, but he was charging an extra 60 on top of scaling.
SPEAKER_04You know.
SPEAKER_06How do you think we bought all the equipment? Well, my goodness.
SPEAKER_04No, I'd love to there's there's been talk about doing a doing because my my one kid he played the nasty bash.
SPEAKER_03Jesus. Would Fergie allow that though?
SPEAKER_04I know the club has strict rules there at the I remember one time, it wasn't the Nasty Bash, but I went to an event at the Rugby Club. It was it was a friend of ours' birthday. And it was so awkward because there was a a performer there, and they were playing, but they were set up right by the line to the bar. Yes. So everyone was standing in front of them, and it was just a guy with his guitar.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Should have been, but can't you be by the fireplace in that? There's many places.
SPEAKER_04So why put it in that corner? Yeah, that's dumb. So it's like, oh, oh, there's a guy behind that line of people.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the fireplace would be probably the best place. Yeah, you'd think, eh?
SPEAKER_04The nice thing about that room is uh is that the the must. And it's funny because there's a lot of smell. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03If you were to it's like the druid, if you you can't replicate that the date, like that's what you love. Uh that's what keeps coming back.
SPEAKER_04When my my kid was playing football at the field next door, we'd always go the fish is good too.
SPEAKER_03Don't sleep on the fish.
SPEAKER_04We'd always go to the rugby club for beers while football practice is going on. And you know, if it was known that, hey, if my kid gets concussed, text me, right? I'm next door.
SPEAKER_00Sure.
SPEAKER_04And I'll come over. But but we actually, the the football association's offices is down below the rugby club. Right. You think it's musty in the rugby club?
SPEAKER_05Go downstairs.
SPEAKER_04We go to parent meetings down in the the football club downstairs. Underneath in the bowels of the rugby club.
SPEAKER_05If if the f if the main level's musty, go in the basement. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, those readers are going off the uh pinning. Probably get a radon test too, maybe while you're at it, hey. Like it wouldn't be worth it.
SPEAKER_05You probably gotta get a few tests up here in that basement.
SPEAKER_04One thing I really appreciated though is because I was also involved in in my kids' hockey, and it was all very hoity and very, you know, very you know, you know. Oh, it's north of the city there. Right. But uh going to my first meetings involved in in the football, and go in, and there was a beer fridge and a little, you know, like a little coffee can with a little slot in it, and you, you know, for too many beers for anytime you're there for meetings or whatever. Oh, okay. It would never have that at the hockey thing because people get angry. Yeah, they get fired up over at a hockey meeting. There's a much chiller vibe at the football. Hockey meetings association.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, my father was on the board when I played hockey and some of the stories he he has from from going to those those hockey meetings. It's like, you know, we're all just we're here to try to make this better for our kids, right? No, no, you're not. And we weren't we weren't good. We're all gonna be sweeping the same floors at whatever like we weren't no, there was no A's in front of our league level. We were having we I see at best. Oh yeah. No, it was some of the stories of people just getting it.
SPEAKER_04The level is never too low for the parents to be too serious about it. That's very true.
SPEAKER_03That's my takeaway from Well, absolutely. It's minor hockey, man. It's insane.
SPEAKER_04It's weird because now that I'm out of it and my kids coached a couple years afterwards, like as an assistant, so he could stay in the you know, he he retired at you know 18 and just wanted to work with the coaches that were his coaches, and he thought, oh, still keep me coming to the rank, and that was cool because I could still go to the rank and I'm coach kind of thing. But then, you know, it was a way to wean you off of 14 years of minor hockey, right? Yeah, you can't just slam the door.
SPEAKER_06We just no longer go to the rink anymore. Yeah, four days a week.
SPEAKER_04We're no longer dealing with bullshit every day. Yeah. I need a little bit of bullshit in my life to so now it's just bullshit adjacent. You listen to other parents bitch about things that really don't concern you at all now, and it's all funnier. That's partly why we started the show. So you have a little bit of bullshit now. Yes. Yeah.
unknownI know.
SPEAKER_06Just the right amount of bullshit. Did you ever play hockey? No. I don't think you did, did you?
SPEAKER_03No, no, I I didn't, and I'm glad I didn't. I I, you know, uh obviously you grow up, you express interest in it. I played soccer, I played ball, I football and all that. My brother played hockey. And I would go and watch. I'd bring my cowbell, and we would, and so there was a few years where he made, you know, sizable tiers, like tier one rules. Like, okay. But then you would you would you would show up for those and and I mean you'd go on out-of-town tournaments and stuff, and the parents, but fuck, like terrible. Like just all jackets, all dentists, lawyers, you know, big, big time. And our family, like, I we're my dad worked at the liquor store for years, my mom was a TA, like we were just kind of middle of the but it we were also, you know, Luke wasn't my brother, wasn't looking to go anywhere. And there was a few other poorer people on the team, uh-huh. And they weren't getting like the It was very comfortable for them. There were tears within the team, and you were either rich or you weren't, and that was the problem. So the rich people always got the the the cut of the jib. And so it's just yeah, uh seeing it then. Oh, it's a very much realized it then. The politics.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and that would have been a lot of people.
SPEAKER_03I was 12 years old, I was watching, I was like, this is crap. And but it I mean, it was fun to go and watch and cheer him on. Of course, he's my brother, but um and good memories, but like, yeah, it was just a lot of politics. It was all for the parents. Well, it's funny though, because I was the thing. It's not for the kids. No, it's not for the kids too.
SPEAKER_04I love my kids playing hockey and I loved and you coach too. When they were younger. Yeah. Skills didn't really matter. Well, until until my uh my youngest got to, you know, the the lettered. Yeah, yeah, whatever. And they had paid coaches at that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So he got to that level and yeah. But I mean, and like my brother said him and his friends loved it. Sometimes they'd they'd check a guy illegally just to get kicked out of the game because they didn't want to play. Or they had to go to the bathroom. So I guess screw this. Like they didn't care. The parents were like, ooh, this is the thing.
SPEAKER_04It's so funny though, because looking back at we discussed a bit of this in our storytime episode early on about my parents couldn't have given a fuck about my playing hockey. Like this was like, you know, mid-early mid 80s. And as soon as I got my driver's license, I never saw my parents again at one of my games. Mine cared too far. Here's the keys, there's your bag. Like, you don't want to come watch? Well, no, we don't. They're not making it. We don't want to go watch. We've seen your team play. We don't want to.
SPEAKER_05It was we had fun because we weren't like we weren't so dog crap that it was like tough to watch. We weren't so good that we're like, wow, there's a couple of these kids who are gonna be like something. Right. Then we had a couple guys go play like G. But our parent our parent crew were ones who actually just came to have fun. We always had such assholes on the city. Made sure there was always one or two parents that were the those parents. But like I don't know, our our out of town tournaments, like it was well like watching thinking back now about how much our parents partied, just like all in a hotel room playing poker and just drinking, and just like having a time, there was no bullshit and fighting and oh no, yeah. Oh as long as no one got hurt and no one was like outright just an ass, it was just a good time. And we're still really good friends with most of those people. Yeah, there's other teams that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the the opposing parents, you can see we had a couple.
SPEAKER_05Or whatever, and you'd a couple almost fisti-cuff moments in stands with our parents. Not us. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Mrs. Tube Socks took my youngest to a tournament. I stayed home with uh the oldest boy. They were like probably, I don't know, twelve years old at the time. They keep their identity secret, don't I? I really don't a dox him here on the topic. I didn't say nothing.
SPEAKER_05Okay, yeah. I didn't say nothing.
SPEAKER_04And uh tournament in Jasper, there was a coup to overthrow the coach. Like there was like a total split divide. It was I love it. A couple of she's texting me, he's like, You can't believe what's going on. They're trying to get rid of it. He made a move. There was a vote, and there was it was totally a coup.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Oh my gosh. To do that out of town, too, is a out of town. Now you have to drive back pissed off.
SPEAKER_04My god, what it was so and at the time she's like, well, you know, just you know, lay low. You know, you're just a goalie mom. You know, so just the goalie drum. That's like the most important parent. This was the beauty, is because yeah, the other goalie dad was the parent liaison. Oh. And so they were on the same side, they were cool. Yeah, and our kid got the more the more starts and whatever. So we're like, we'll just just we're just you know we're doing our thing. We're just doing our thing. We'll just quietly watch you guys like eat each other up. And uh, God, they took it so seriously.
SPEAKER_03Like Yeah, you don't want to be identified as being on a side. No, so we would just when the dust settles, you know, you don't know what you have to do.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so we just we're just we're Switzerland. Yeah, we're just my kid just softs pucks. I don't know. I got no ice time problems. He's starting four out of five games. He's just I actually do have ice time problems. He's played way too much. Way too much. He's got no go to tournaments. There's no energy for yardwork. I felt bad for this other kid on the team who was also really good goalie. We played in Lloyd. Go out to Lloyd, and it was supposed to be the other goalie start, and it was, but he got pulled two minutes into the game because he had a short leash, and the coach really liked That's a short leash.
SPEAKER_03Our boy. That's quite short leash.
SPEAKER_04His mom shows up ten minutes into the game and is like, oh, I I thought uh I thought Ethan was starting. That's why I drove out. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he made a save. He pulled him.
SPEAKER_05His stats are immaculate, though. But we'll keep it that. He's got a 98.
SPEAKER_04It's just an awkward situation as the other goal.
SPEAKER_03I'm like, Well, you drive too.
SPEAKER_04I mean, well, I wouldn't have drove all the way out here because we took a bus out there in the key. Yeah, yeah. And she drove out because she couldn't make it, you know, to the bus leaving. And I was like, God damn it, this is like double-A hockey. Come on, simmer down. You don't need to be yanked. You don't need to be yanking a kid. Because he let in a goal five minutes in.
SPEAKER_03No, but it's like, but he was on a short leash because it's, you know, this is serious.
SPEAKER_05A short leash in minor hockey is just ridiculous.
SPEAKER_04I think this is like bantam.
SPEAKER_03And I don't know how that shapes people. Like again, I didn't play, I just watched, but like there's like cast in the room as well.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. Like amongst the kids. For sure. Like they're 12, 14 years old, they absolutely know who stirs the track.
SPEAKER_03They're forming their uh the their lives in terms of social aspects that are and they're how they interact at bars and nightclubs. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05You guys fighting outside, we know where they ranked up. Exactly, right?
SPEAKER_04Yes, uh, the straws that stirred the drink on their team.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because they're very entitled.
SPEAKER_05They weren't the glue guys. No, I hate hockey, man. If only you could have made a career out of talking about other things instead.
SPEAKER_03The sport sucks. Like the sport's fine, but it's just everything that comes along with it. Now, football, that's the thing. Like Saskatoon is all football. Like high school. Well, you wanted I I grew up wanting to play football. I wanted to play, I wanted to play. I think they played football too, loved it. But I played kinsman before high school. And when I played kinsman for the whole Bulldogs. Where what did you play for like position-wise? Uh outside linebacker DB.
SPEAKER_04Lucas was a DB, my kid.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, geez, I just doxxed him.
SPEAKER_03And he's doxxed. Oh, well, Edgar, make a note, we'll edit that out. Zip. But no, but like it was it was a thing where football in Saskatchewan and Saskatchewan, like it is a big thing in the back of the biggest. Hilltops. Hilltops are a classic thing. You you play, if you wear a hilltops jacket around, you get into any bar you want in your neck topic. It's like wearing your colors in your bike of gang. It's so it is. Like you can beat the piss out of whoever you want. If you're wearing a hilltops jacket, you're fine. But even high school ball, like that's that's a big thing. So I always wanted to play high school for B Jam. That's where I grew up. And um Sorry was that in Saskatoon? Yeah, North End. Yeah. And so I was playing border. But before high school was kinsman football. And that was like 12 to 14 or whatever. And we had guys, it was four four-team league, and the league was so corrupt, all of our coaches would be in prison by now. Because they like you'd you'd practice, you'd practice uh six days of the week. You'd play Sundays for games, you'd practice six days the week. The coaches would come on with hats and harnesses and kick the shit out of you. You'd do drills where it was just you know, 45, 27, you'd run at each other, and like it was it was not good. Like it they'd all be in prison. Like it is it was child abuse, essentially. But it was it was good training. It's funny though, because it was like army training. Like you got in shape, like you were fit.
SPEAKER_04Cross now don't they only wear pads once a week.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah. No, no, this was this was right. They like the kids would bitch about that. Our coaches were psycho, the league was psycho. We were I was I remember I lined up, there was a guy playing, he was a first-year quarterback for the Hilltop at the time out of high school, and he lined up with the Babin Warriors. Then I was I was on the defense line of begins. I mean, the guy was like five, six years, and at that time when you're young, yeah, but that's a big thing. Well, because you have a beard.
SPEAKER_05At that age, like you're still with a lot more than these guys.
SPEAKER_03Well, they know some of them, and so anyway, but I so I never got to play high school because one game I lined a guy up on kick return, and I you spot him, and as DB is our D B coach, Steve Mack, we wore makeup. Lipstick and a little bit of eyeliner. Oh boy. And we would look in the receiver and we never got it. That was that was the thing. We had wooden idols to kiss in the locker room. Like one guy was a staunch Christian, he had to quit, he was crying. Kiss the idol, kiss the idol, and they're shoving it in his face. I don't want to kiss the idol. Oh my goodness. And so so we'd wear this uh makeup and everything. And then uh so I lined up a guy on kick return. Me and him sprinted at each other head on, boom, accordion. I blacked out and everything, and and then I got up, and then I run to the side, and the coach was like, Do you think you got your bell rung? I was out, and then you a couple slaps to the head, and you're back out there, and you're making contact. Smell this, you're good. Oh yeah. And then so I went uh I went to bed that night. I slept, and then I had neck pains and everything. Went to the family doctor, and he's like, Oh, you'll be fine. It's just a bell rung. Yeah, yeah. And then so I get to high school in a couple years, and I try playing. I'm trying warm-ups and tryouts, and I'm like, fuck, I'm getting these headaches, and I I feel like shit. I don't feel like and again, I had like chronic whiplash and shit. I'd wake up in bed and I wouldn't be able to move some mornings, and like my mom would have to drive me to the hospital, like they'd have to like crack me out and everything. And then like it crushed me because I couldn't play high school ball. But it was like but playing kinsman was such a thing where it was like uh again, it was like basic training. Yeah, like again, you couldn't do this shit now. No, yeah. Hockey too has had its tone. Yeah, whereas like you do things that are not like ho uh hockey's grown, but there's still a culture, but the football was like boot camp. It was absolutely hands camp. It was intense, guys are puking, and they're kids. And and the coaches are standing. That seems insane, right? Kids are standing and the coaches are standing with their foot on their neck, like oh you fucker. Like, you know, it's just like wow. And looking back, you're like, but it did it did shape you in a sense. It reshaped your neck. Well, that's the only problem. The physicality wasn't the good part, but the mental and everything was good. But it was just I never got the dream of playing because I wanted to I wanted to go high school and then I wanted to play for the Huskies. That was CFL, whatever. But playing for the US Huskies. No, no, that was that was a nice that was because at that time it was only linemen I got, you know. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, well, whatever. If I can if I can do U of S, because U of S Huskies too, that was a good they had great teams. Yeah, I mean, but that that pissed me off because it was just like, but that's the sport too. Like, and I'm surprised football is still even a sport, to be honest. To the level like you did you you played?
SPEAKER_05I never actually did bullshit.
SPEAKER_04I played rugby, I never played football. I never had north of Taco.
SPEAKER_05I never had access to it, like really. There was no high school football when I was a kid. No, we had nine or anything? We had high school football, and but it was like it wasn't out of our school out of our school. We were associated with another school in the city, yeah, and like it was you never really knew about it, and then it was just like, oh yeah, they won. Was that political to them in a sense? Like you had to like somebody to or you had no idea really. You had to, I mean, I don't know why. I looking back, it's like I probably should have. Uh pretty big dude. Could have yeah, man. Like a truck.
SPEAKER_04Well, my kid was a was a was a DB because he didn't want to play offense because he said that's it's a glamour position. That's where it's true. Defense is where it's at, man. He loved playing playing DB, and he was a hell of a DB. Like and he loved like swatting down balls, and you know, better feeling. That was way funner.
SPEAKER_05You can see in the quarterback's eyes that like he's throwing a perfect pass, and then you just come out of nowhere.
SPEAKER_03Well, especially lighting a guy up coming running around, he's annoying you. Yeah, and you got him. I got him.
SPEAKER_04There's there's few positions that are less satisfying in high school. Well, maybe not high school, maybe, but just younger than high school, than being a receiver. Because no one can really throw you you're running these routes, he can't get you the ball there. Yeah, but being a DB, you're like a ball hawk, right?
SPEAKER_03So that's more of a chance of kicking than the receiver in a sense. Like you're yeah, yeah. Right? So none of those plays ever came off real.
SPEAKER_04Man, he got cranked a few times and it was you know, it's terrible. It is gross. Yeah. And he got some in hockey as well. And like he had to like sit out for a while and shit like that. Yeah, that didn't happen when we got it.
SPEAKER_03But I'm glad that I didn't, because when I so I didn't play high school ball, but I got to go and like watch and party, which was fuck it.
SPEAKER_05You were you're part of the team, but not on the team. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03We had like it was great.
SPEAKER_05You were you were that guy who like I would have gone pro, but I blew my knee out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, got him the drugs, and then I yeah, anyway.
SPEAKER_05Got to dabble around in a while. Yeah, I didn't have to be a good one. So you basically got the experience. You didn't have to get hit. No, no, it's fine. I think you did it the right way. I think so, yeah. I got a taste all the accolades, but never the physical contact.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's just that's the way to do it.
SPEAKER_03I love football. It's it is my terms of everything that I bitched about it. Like I I still like because again, like I I didn't play hockey, but learning my brother's experience and everything in the same way. You were hockey adjacent, so you knew how that worked.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But the whole football, like I just, yeah, there's something about that that I appreciate more. That's fair. It's fun.
SPEAKER_05It's a fun sport to watch.
SPEAKER_03Because I know, like, even moving out here, like it is big. Like, you know, junior and everything in high school and everything, but high school football is big here.
SPEAKER_04Again, when I grew up, there there was no high school football in my town when I grew up. Right. Rugby was big.
SPEAKER_05What's that? Your town had a high school?
SPEAKER_04Yes, my town did have a high school. Uh they were just newly introduced. It was a new thing.
SPEAKER_05What, as a town or a school?
SPEAKER_04Yes. They were just they just started to introduce high schools. Oh. As a way to better educate the Ah yes. You know what?
SPEAKER_05We shouldn't stop when they're 12.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, otherwise we're just walking around, walking into poles and stuff. There was no education.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god. Winter was dangerous. Western school was terrible, yeah.
SPEAKER_04My goodness. But no, my my my my one kid, he he's fucking it was fun to watch football. It was fun to be part of that.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm glad he played the defensive side, because that's where it's at.
SPEAKER_04But then it's funny also, though, when he was done playing, he was so done playing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he's like, if I don't ever do this again, I'm fine with it.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05Well, there's no rec league.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_05Well that's the thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You can play till you're not just gonna go to the game. Football your game of football. No, no, no. What do you want to do tonight? Let's go fucking run into each other tonight. No. You know, there's there isn't that. Mind you though, flag, there's a lot of good flag league.
SPEAKER_03That's coming, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's seemingly becoming a big thing for those guys like I don't want to go and just get cranked, but I would love to throw a football of a 30-arder. You know, the the the flag football and it's it's different too.
SPEAKER_04Like watching flag football versus like not obviously just because of the contact thing, but just like the whole mindset is so it's very competitive now because when we were kids, and I say we, I mean I guess me, because I'm the oldest guy in the room. Yeah. But flags are.
SPEAKER_03Yes, well. So well, and it was hard to find flags. Rationing.
SPEAKER_04It was hard to find flags. Yes, yes. But that's the thing. Like when we when we were kids, like, oh, you play football? Oh, you play flag football? Yeah, you know, like it was looked at as as not proper. Yeah. And it was like, why? Are you like are you differently abled? Like you can't play proper football? It's true. Right? But now it's actually in the Olympics. Yeah, it's an Olympic sport now, flag football.
SPEAKER_03It's gonna be in 2028. Right? So it's I played two untouched when I was like nine or ten, and it was awesome. Before you can legally like contact whatever. That's cool. Like it's well, I know. There's some pressure. No, I'm gonna put it in another if you don't mind. A little lip pillow? Yeah, I mean I don't.
SPEAKER_05No, you can't have any Edgar. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I'm sure you took the one out of his mouth when he got here. You don't even have any gums.
SPEAKER_03During that strangely wet kiss. Yeah, that was odd. What a lip. Well, it just kept going.
SPEAKER_05That's why we hired him. It just kept going. They're big lip. It didn't stop.
SPEAKER_04You could probably use a use a balm that would, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Scraping is what throws me off.
SPEAKER_04So you just uh let's get back to your uh your day job. You did just spend two full weeks carrying the mail.
SPEAKER_03Two and a half. Two and a half to three. Hell of a job. Well I did do incredible.
SPEAKER_04And so now you can kind of not turn your mind off, but at least I'm sure you approach your day a little differently when you're not Yes. Haven't because that yeah, that was a long run of have you been the marquee gang.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Dustin was sick last fall for like a month. Oh, there was that. And I remember that. So that was I forgot about that. No, it's it's good when you have a guy like Jamel coming in and everything. I mean, I could I I could I've done a pro. Yeah, I've done shows by myself too. I could do that. I mean, it it doesn't really matter. I don't care. It is more work if you have to host a show than as opposed to what I do.
SPEAKER_04That's my point. You just did a great job of that, but it must be nice to go, okay. Well now for the next back to being the gag bowl.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the next three days before he's gone on Friday.
SPEAKER_03Before he's gone, before he's gone again, yeah, yeah. Thursday and Friday here. But yeah, I know it's just back to the sidecar for a bit. Yeah, that's what you do, and it's uh it's good.
SPEAKER_04It's nice to switch it up a bit. You do a great job carrying the show, by the way, though, but I'm sure you know that.
SPEAKER_03I know I think uh it's uh where's Dusty? This sucks. When's Dusty back? Oh, I'm glad that he's doing all this stuff. That's great. Oh, J Mo is great there you go. But like nobody it's like I am. She shows in. Yeah, and it's like Where the hell is he now? Yeah, yeah. And uh J Mo did a great job hosting. I'm like, yeah, he did sure did. But he first of all, he's not hosting. No, I mean so it's all good, yeah. So I I I'm a consummate, I'm an employee and I do my work and I whatever I'm told to do. Don't mind the lock shop too. I do that at the hangout. I was surprised when we first saw the format.
SPEAKER_04I didn't realize that uh that was in your oeuvre.
SPEAKER_03Well, uh it's not, but I mean again, I was But you pull it off.
SPEAKER_05I can do I can do anything. He talks more about betting than the guy whose name's mostly. I try.
SPEAKER_03I've never laid a sports bet. I don't believe in that. I uh don't you know neither does Fergie. Fergie don't bet. But I I realize people do, and that's I I I'm not a big sports conduit. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05I forget about it. Remember when that trial you had that $14 riding on the Seahawks? Yes. For like six months?
SPEAKER_04I'll I'll do that once in a while. And uh preseason. And and then I forget about sports betting because I'm not it's not a passion of mine. And it's like, oh yeah, okay, well maybe I'll put in a PA code and get a so I put a I got a you know the the free bet, so I put it on the I put it on the Elks to win the uh the Grand Cup this year.
SPEAKER_05Wow, you almost super screwed that up.
SPEAKER_04Right? I know. Wow, but I didn't because I'm a consumm pro. I've been at this for months. It has been months. My self-editing is amazing. But yeah, so I I I I have a bit of a kick. I like doing it once in a while, but I totally forget to do it. Yeah, and then these guys in our chat are like, oh, I've got this and this, this. Like, oh yeah, well then I'll put a sprinkle on that. Oh yeah, that's kind of fun.
SPEAKER_03Well, you two are on different ends of the spectrum here.
SPEAKER_04Yes, because he's you love a good sports.
SPEAKER_05Yes, I love a good sports, but I I got a couple sweating right now. Well, actually, yeah.
SPEAKER_04At the Super Bowl party, he's got his his dossier. Sure.
SPEAKER_03I only have two pages of the only two pages. Small print.
SPEAKER_04Double-sided double-sided. I'm impressed by that stuff.
SPEAKER_03I just don't dig it myself. Also, I'm not a fantasy guy. Yeah, I mean, that's another kettle of fish, too, but Yeah, but you're a fantasy guy. Just CFL fantasy.
SPEAKER_04For the dunya. And I wanted to get it on it, but then then I didn't want to deal with following fantasy. So I thought.
SPEAKER_03That's the problem. You have to commit. And I will not, I got a few invites, hey, you want to join this thing? I said, I cannot willfully because that's disrespectful. Sure. If I can't lay my mind. If you're not all in. No, because then then you got the guy, hey, get in. Well then it's you're taking a spot away from a guy who really wants to do it. And you don't want to, and if you do good against somebody who's in and out, like you're kind of that's yeah. So you can't if you can't commit, you can't commit, and that's fine. But I think I'm in three.
SPEAKER_04I'm that way with with sports betting. It's like I'll go for a week where I'm just like every day I'm like, oh, put a little sprinkle here, a little sprinkle here. This is fun, and then I'll forget about it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, and then I say, oh.
SPEAKER_05Time of the year matters too. Like when it's the dead of the winter and there's you know, basketball and hockey and football every day. It's easier to just sprinkle on something versus when it's nice out and you're doing stuff and you're not gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_06And then it's a bit on baseball.
SPEAKER_05Well, no, baseball betting is for the birds. Yeah. Mainly because I've I don't think I've won a baseball bet in my entire life. It's bad. I don't win many, but I know the ones I lose, and they're always baseball. You're always up, though. Well, you gotta be. You gotta find those right lines and uh and take advantage of them.
SPEAKER_04What else we got before we wrap this sucker up?
SPEAKER_05Outer town scoreboard? I mean, weather update. Sunny downtown. Right?
SPEAKER_04So we finally got a guess, so naturally we need to uh So naturally we don't know what to do with our hands anymore. We need to milk it for all it's worth, so there will be bonus uh You know you guys, I sit around at home.
SPEAKER_03I usually have my hand down my pants to be sometimes in the waistband. Edgar had his entire shape. I can smell them. Yeah, yeah. But it's nice to have your hand. You just put it down by the waistband like this, and you just kind of sit like yeah, like I don't know, because it takes a bit of the pressure, like you're kind of I don't know sciatica. Yeah, yeah. The nerve is a thing. I don't know, it's a comfort to anyway.
SPEAKER_04So next week, tune in next week because this episode has uh has run over time, so we are going to in fact split some bonus Lieutenant Eric content into next week's episode because it wasn't part of the deal.
SPEAKER_05Well, we'll add a couple of zeros as that sort of speaker. Yeah, we'll add a couple more zeros. Thank you. It'd be a good thing.
SPEAKER_04And comments. So god damn it, this has been amazing, and thank you so much for joining us. It's been so much fun.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I had a blast. Can't wait to come back. If you have any friends, please recommend. I do not. I you want to talk to my wife? Oh my gosh. Danny. Yeah, well, she she's got tails, man. She could she's your wife, I'm sure she does just you. Well, that that's the thing, you know.
SPEAKER_04I think I've only had one lengthy chat with her, and it was at the uh the curling uh bond spiel. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Had a good chat with her there. She's a great curling. She's a hell of a gal. Yeah. And she loves the curling. Oh, she does. And I very much respect that. Because I've never curled I've never thrown a rock once. I've never thrown one. No, no. No, you were just in.
SPEAKER_03I was up top, yeah. That's a grand old game.
SPEAKER_04It is.
SPEAKER_03It's a fun game just to watch. Mrs.
SPEAKER_04Tube Sox did it in high school and stuff, so she at least has some experience, but I've never thrown a rock. Anyways. Okay, well, I think that's we're gonna close this sucker down.
SPEAKER_00All right, fellas. We're done.
SPEAKER_04So gosh darn it. Play us out, Harold.