Curiouser & Curiouser is a podcast for leaders, builders, and curious minds navigating AI, GenAI safety, and governance in a rapidly changing world.
Produced by Alice, the enterprise trust, safety, and security platform for the AI era, the show draws on frontline adversarial intelligence to explore how AI systems are stress-tested, red-teamed, governed, and protected across their lifecycle.
Each episode looks at how AI is actually showing up in the real world, how organizations evaluate it, where it breaks, and what it takes to build systems people can trust.
We cut through hype and fear to explore how AI shapes trust, decision-making, and real-world work, one rabbit hole at a time.
Explore more from Alice:
Website: https://alice.io
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Alice.io.advance.unafraid
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/alice-io
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Julie Tsai is a CISO-in-Residence at Ballistic Ventures, board member of the Bay Area CSO Council, and cybersecurity leader for AI Insiders. A six-time CISO and SecDevOps specialist, she’s led security at organizations ranging from startups to Fortune 1 companies, including Roblox, WalmartLabs, and Box. Julie advises startups, teaches cybersecurity, and focuses on using AI and DevSecOps to build stronger, more responsible security practices.