Hatrack with Hannah
Hat Rack with Hannah is for anyone feeling pulled in a million directions while trying to keep up with all the roles they carry. Join therapist, author, and entrepreneur Hannah as she gets real about balancing life’s roles—professional, personal, and everything in between—without the pressure to have it all together. Through honest conversations and incredible guest hosts, she’ll help you slow down, sort through the overwhelm, and figure out what truly deserves your time… and what can be let go.
Hatrack with Hannah
Coming Home To Yourself: Part 2: Frequency Code
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In this episode of Hatrack, Hannah and spiritual teacher Jess dive deep into the practical side of spiritual and energetic alignment. Moving past the "woo-woo" stigma, Jess breaks down her signature "Frequency Code"—a personalized blueprint combining astrology and human design to unlock individual potential, highlight shadow work, and drive manifestation. Using Hannah’s real chart as a live case study, the duo illustrates how identifying your energetic blueprint can bring immediate clarity, internal regulation, and actionable steps toward building your legacy.
Key Takeaways
- Demystifying the "Woo": Jess and Hannah discuss shifting the language from "alignment" to "internal regulation." Astrology and human design are framed not as abstract concepts, but as decades-old systems that provide a sense of direction, ground the nervous system, and clear creative blocks.
- The Power of Shadow Work: High frequency isn't about ignoring the dark; it's about looking directly at blockages, guilt, or learned behaviors. Jess shares how her own journey through hard times and sobriety became her ultimate superpower, emphasizing that shadow work is the true catalyst for manifestation.
- Deconstructing the Frequency Code: Jess breaks down the three core pillars of an individual's energetic blueprint.
Connect with Jess
- The Awaken Membership: Ongoing, year-round community coaching featuring "Monday Magic" sessions and quarterly live hot-seat coaching.
- Spiritual Awakening Group: Deep-dive group coaching returning from pause this upcoming September.
- Shadow Work Intensive & One-on-One Coaching: Tailored, individualized blueprints and deeper energetic chart readings.
- Resource: Grab a copy of Jess's Shadow Work Journal (published last October) to start dismantling your own layers.
Special Offer for Listeners
Jessica is offering a complimentary 15-minute spiritual session exclusively for Hat Rack listeners. Whether you prefer a phone call or a Zoom meeting, you can show up exactly as you are. Jessica will tap into your energy and use her clairaudient gifts to provide an intuitive reading and relay the messages meant for you on your journey.
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Do you ever feel like you're juggling a million versions of yourself and still dropping the ball? Like you're switching hats all day. Professional partner, girl, friend. And no one really sees what it takes to just be you. Yeah, me too. Welcome to Hat Wrap of Hannah. I'm Hannah, therapist, entrepreneur, author, podcast host, and also a mom, partner, daughter, friend. Basically, a professional hat wearer. I created this space where you don't have to minimize what you're carrying or rush past it. Because the truth is, you can have big dreams and feel overwhelmed by the role it takes to hold them. Both get to exist. Here we slow it down, call it what it is, take some hats off, and figure out what actually belongs in your rack. So take a deep breath. You can set something down here. And let's get into that. Welcome back, hat rack listeners. I'm Hannah, your host, and this is Jess, our spiritual guide. After last week's podcast, we really felt called to kind of give an example of what this work looks like and dive a little bit deeper than we normally would. So we have reconvened to give you more of an insight of what this work looks like and to destigmatize the woo and give you some more background on what Jess does. So Jess, take it away. If you want to give more of an intro about what you do and some of the services you offer and what we're gonna do today, that would be awesome.
SPEAKER_01Yes, absolutely. Thanks for having me back. I'm excited. So just a little background about me and what I do. So I'm a spiritual teacher and writer, and I've come to a space though in my work where it is really mind, body, soul altering. It really is something that I embody in my everyday as myself. Like I'm living this after going through so many things of my own journey to get to here. And so it's so nice to be able to have spaces to offer where everything's individualized too. So I offer one-on-one coaching where it's very specific, tailored to what you're going through in your journey. But it also I am running a group called Spiritual Awakening. Right now, we are on pause and it will open up back in September. I also have a membership called the Awaken membership that is all year round. We do Monday Magic every Monday, and we have quarterly live sessions together where basically it's like hot seat coaching. And the power of it, I don't even know how to describe it in this call because I have watched some of my clients, I like I could cry, I have watched them manifest their dreams, and really a lot of it has to do with shadow work. Like I have published my shadow work journal last October, which is a dream come true, and the shadow work is very important. So that's another thing I offer. I also offer shadow work intensives because shadow work for me has altered my life in a way that I can't explain. It has changed everything for me because with every light there's a shadow, and we have to really look at that, right? Because it's it's not a it's not a negative, it's not something to be scared of, it's something to really look at because that's how the manifestation happens. There's always like a shadow or a blockage or something holding you back. And all of us have our own unique experiences in life that either can amplify us or at times hold us back, but they don't have to hold us back. That's the thing. It's actually a superpower. That's what I've realized. Like the things for me that have held me back, they're actually have turned out now to be a superpower. And I'm like grateful for them. I never thought I would say that, but I'm grateful. I'm grateful for my story. I'm grateful for my sobriety. I'm grateful for all the hard things that I went through because I do feel in my bones that I'm meant to help others return to their light and find their spark. There's nothing that lights me up more than watching people that I work with have that spark come back or just realize that it's possible. And in my work too, it's like think big. You don't have to dim your dreams, your feelings. Everything's welcome. And that's where the magic happens. And then today I'm actually looking at, which if you look at this, other people have done this as well. And I've been talking about it for a long time with my friends, but there has come to be a formula, the more research I've been doing about it, a frequency code. And that's why when I'm talking about how my one-on-one coaching is so individualized, because every one of us has a different frequency code. We all have a different blueprint, right? Like we all do. And when you understand yourself and how you operate, that's really where magic does happen. So this frequency code, and we'll use you, Hannah, as an example today. Yay. Yeah, it's we'll use you, and it the frequency code is basically your Jupiter sign, because if you think of Jupiter, that's your strengths, right? Like that's your strengths, that's that's your expansion and how abundance moves through you. Then you look at your 10th house, which is your legacy, what you're here for, and and then you pair that with your human design, which is how you attract things and how energy can move through you, how you work, how you operate.
SPEAKER_00So this is astrological too.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. This is very I I definitely bring a lot of astrology into my work because it's it even when I look back at astrology and I'm looking 10 years ago, I'm like, wow, that is what happened, right? And if you look at your blueprint or how you operate, it really is helpful to hone in on your shadows, right? Because it'll bring up what you're supposed to look at and your strengths and be it. I'm not saying that looking at your frequency code, everything's gonna fall into place, but it's gonna give you a lot of movement, a lot of movement.
SPEAKER_00But I'm assuming a lot of things to process and kind of work through and towards understanding yourself better.
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SPEAKER_00Because when we talked about frequencies in our last episode of just how we find low versus high and what the differences are, I'm assuming this blueprint helps you kind of be guided.
SPEAKER_01It does, it helps you operate, it does help you operate at a higher frequency because you're able to understand yourself and it can help you. The shadow work is more what helps you the most, I would say. I mean, there's so many different ways. There's actually no, I want to clarify too, I don't believe there's a specific right or wrong way to heighten your frequency, except for really honoring your truth. Open, honest, willing, and your truly your frequency can heighten when we're living in like guilt, shame, and your frequency code can help you understand yourself more. Should we do yours?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so this yeah, this sounds like too just like a disclaimer. It sounds like this is gonna be like kind of vulnerable toward and geared towards what my inner workings are. So we're really putting it out there for our listeners today.
SPEAKER_01Actually, I'm gonna go over generically what your Jupiter sign is, what your 10th house is, and what your human design, and and kind of show how that can merge. But we don't have to dive into the depths of it at all. But just kind of let's let's go through them and see what comes up for you. Okay, perfect. Okay, I'm excited.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Are you? Yeah, oh yeah. I love this work. I do this work often. Do you? Oh, I'm here for the spirit guides, I'm here for all the astrology work. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. Yeah, and that's another thing I do in my sessions. I always invite my higher power, God, spirit, whatever you want to call it. I whatever works for you, I always invite my higher power and God in. Always, because I know that there's something greater out here that really I lean into and I watched it happen. It makes me emotional because I'm like, I wish I just surrendered earlier, but here we are, right? So for you, you're so let's start with your Jupiter sign. And I did take a I did take some notes just because I don't want to because all of I I focus on mine obviously a lot, but I do these all the time. So I want to make sure we're honing on you for you, Hannah. So your Jupiter sign is actually in Libra. Your Jupiter sign's in Libra.
SPEAKER_00No, it's yeah, it is. No, so I didn't know that, but my um, so everyone in my family, like my husband and my daughter and I were all cuss babies, and both of them have Libra. Yes, okay. Interesting. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, yours is in Libra, your Jupiter sign. When you that so think of your Jupiter placement too, as like your strengths, like how abundance and expansion moves through you. And for for if it's in Libra, really, you expand through meaningful partnerships. Not that it only is through partnerships, but that's where a lot of expansion happens for you in partnerships that will bring abundance, that will bring you to a space where it's going to expand you to a level of through these partnerships, but it's gonna expand you individually and your life and your business and what you're doing. And also, too, authentic connections for Libra. Like if your Jupiter is in Libra, you're going to really have a devoted audience. It's more about quality and not quantity. Like you're really gonna have a devoted audience. So everything you do it because it's so authentic, you can't you can't operate without it being authentic. But it's all yeah, so that's what's coming through. And creating beauty is a big one for Libra, actually. And beauty, when we talk about beauty, that doesn't necessarily mean aesthetically, that's what you're talking about, right? And the beauty can be bringing to light, bringing in these conversations that aren't actually talked about a lot. That's beautiful, right? That's needed, and I think that a lot of it intuitively for you, it's about what conversations, authentic again, conversations you can have that bring this beauty and connection to the world. And that's so aligned.
SPEAKER_00That's so aligned with me. That's a lot of like my clients will laugh, but I am like no bullshit because I have the conversations that are uncomfortable and hard to have, and that's how I operate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're gonna when you when we go to your 10th house, this makes sense too, because the Libra, yes, so literally co-creation multiplies what you do alone, too. I want to make sure to to talk about that. So, like what you're doing alone is actually gonna expand and multiply through co-creation. So you actually are doing the inner work alone, but then it's going to expand through a co-creation, like through collaboration, through you know what I mean? Like so that you actually create it alone, but then it multiplies when you share it, like when you collaborate with people, when you share it that way, is what's coming up. That makes sense, yeah. Absolutely. So that's your so that's your Jupiter's and Libra. So any questions about that, and then we'll move on to your 10th house.
SPEAKER_00So is that basically saying that I need to be more collaborative? I mean, I feel like you're collaborative relationships.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it is saying that. Not that, but again, they want to stress that what you're doing alone is just as important, but the expansion is going to come through the collaborations. The expansion is actually think big too. Like you're always in the right place at the right time. So just think like that for you. Like, I'm always at the right place at the right time, because then when you're at the right place at the right time for one collaboration could change your whole life, but it's actually what you've done. It's just expanding through the collaboration be or the co-creation because who knows why, right? Like it could be it's actually what you're doing. So and really, what you have to say is worth a lot, right? Your mind is worth millions. I can feel it in your in the energy. So it's going to expand, open it for you because you already have it all in your mind. Truly, like you are going to be collaborating a lot with this business. Yeah. No, it's going to fuel it. Yeah. This is making a lot of sense. So your Jupiter's on Libra, and then with your 10th house, which is of course your the domain of your career, your legacy, your public life, really. I think I was telling you this last time, but it's interchangeable with your mid-heaven, which is the highest point in your chart. So your 10th house, you have, you don't know, it's Scorpio. I did not know that. Yeah. So Scorpio is in your 10th house, which is so cool and powerful. So when looking at your 10th house, your purpose is to lead through transformation. Lead through transformation. Literally, you lead through transformation. You're a therapist. Of course, that's literally leading through even more, goes beyond that. You lead through transformation, speaking the truths others avoid, and building a deeply devoted community through authenticity, depth, and reinvention. Five goosebumps. And see how they're completely different signs, but they make uh they make sense completely.
SPEAKER_00But also, like that's exactly what I'm trying to do here. Yes. So that makes so much sense.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Yeah, no, I know. You're you even said it, actually. That's why I was like, oh, just wait till we get to your 10th house. You said you say the things that other people don't want to say, and that's kind of what this is saying. It it dives in way more because really your the area to focus on for you is yeah, transformation, power, depth, all these things that really your business is doing, right? Like you're going to talk about those conversations. And yeah, the hidden currents that run beneath, like the hidden, yeah, all this again, shadow work, like for other people. What you do organically is shadow work for other people, right? Like because you're bringing to surface what's hidden, you're talking about what maybe other people won't, right?
SPEAKER_00But it's interesting because that's like all I do in my professional life, right? But then when I do that in my personal life, I've noticed so often people don't want to go there and don't want to have those authentic conversations. And I have very tight-knit circles for a reason because I can't do the whole masking, smiling, not talking about hard topics. So that's just more shadow work.
SPEAKER_01Superpower though, you were brought to this space for a reason, and this is kind of validating that because really that is what you're doing, and it that is what this is all about bringing those topics that other people are too scared to talk about to the surface, and it creates depth and transformation, and that's really important and paired with your Jupiter and Libra, it meshes together so well, right? So you can see how the abundance will move through you when you collaborate because you're already talking about things so many people don't want to talk about or don't want to go there. So then it's amplifying it and it's going to bring you to a space where the expansion happens organically because it's needed, it's really needed. Oh my goodness. Yeah, this is what this is what you're meant to do. Literally. There's so much here, but I don't want to just read off of this. I wanted to just go off what's coming up intuitively. But yeah, that's your 10th house is in Scorpio. What else does that mean? Like what traits are there then? The main message of a if your 10th house and Scorpio, or for anybody else who has it, is you're expressing the raw, real version of everything, the truth that nobody wants to go to. And you but then you also too you stop choosing the filtered version of it, right? So to get to the highest frequency, I have to stop filtering. Yes, absolutely. Stop filtering, be completely like do even if some it makes others uncomfortable. The the it's really important to say the rawest, realist version of it. You don't need to filter it down to wonder will this person understand it? Will this person understand it? No, it's like this is what it is, right? Even if it's it could it can be uncomfortable, it can be almost like shocking, even that's okay, right? Like anything, just what it is is what it is, is what you're gonna want to say it, how it is, like straight up, like almost like oh, like well, and I think I've done that so much in my life and had such bad feedback from it.
SPEAKER_00And like uh when we're talking about like what silences us, we've had these conversations in different spaces before. Uh I think that's what's always silenced me, is you need to put a filter on. This past week I was talking to a good friend who was having to mask up to be at an event. And I didn't talk to her about this, I should have, but I feel that so deeply because that's the messaging I've always received is like you need to filter, you need to present this way, you need to like you can't say that. That's shocking.
SPEAKER_01No more. This is the opposite. That's what's the literally it's you're not supposed to filter. That I have goosebumps because this is how I feel too. Where you know, if I look at myself before I was masked, right? Or caged, like Glenn and Doyle's book. Yeah, I I really do feel the moment where I was caged and I started filtering myself down. And so for you, especially with your 10th house, for anybody, nobody wants to be caged. Everyone should be free and asking, but this is really important and part of like your purpose to get to the space where you aren't filtering anymore. And again, shadow work. See how important shadow work is, even for the expansion, because you want to remove those layers of where you know, like you said, throughout your life, everyone's told you to do this, slowly dismantle that, take the layers off. You will feel literally even feel lighter. I started to do that. I would be quieter, this and that. Now I just do not do that. And it's like you feel lighter, like let it. And that's where too we get stuck in thinking we have to do things a certain way. Like you, you you grow up, you go to school, you get married. You know what I mean? Like, there's like that's was put in societal order, but it doesn't serve everyone. No, and the societal order is not part of what expands you, right? Well, these are just I guess icing on the cake, really, you know, we want to feel good just with ourselves, just with our own mind, body, soul. We feel good without anything else.
SPEAKER_00So I need to continue that work in order to be at my highest frequency.
SPEAKER_01Keep just saying it how it is, you don't need to filter at all. And that's also how you're gonna find your most deepest, most powerful collaborations as well. Through saying it how it is, and your people will find you again. You have a devoted audience, a devoted audience. So once you'll find you find your people, they're they get you, they get, they want that real version, they don't want the filter down, they don't want that. I'm your people, I don't want the filter down. Yeah, there's no filtering here. We know this.
SPEAKER_00No, I think that's also why those groups, those other spaces that you and I are in are so fueling and filling for me, because there's no filtering that occurs at all in the best sense. I think that's why spaces are fueling. Very hard. Very hard to find.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, they are, and it and you can see how I don't know about you, but like after I'll get off a call together, my frequency is naturally lifted.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00And my mind and my creative and my entire body and being is just so much more open to potential and opportunities and concepts, conversations. Like I always find myself in such a creative space after leaving those spaces.
SPEAKER_01Yes, exactly that's exactly it. And that's why even working through this on your own, it does naturally bring you to those more creative spaces and things too. That's why my creativity really does feel fueled all the time. Like I find art in every day. Uh every day, I'm like, I get so happy by what's around me. And it's I definitely owe a lot to the shadow work that I've done. And I get emotional because I'm so happy and thankful about yeah, that's how why this is so important. I want to share how important shadow work is to everybody, how important it is to look at your own individual chart, even your chart total, right? Like this is just one way. But looking at your chart to understand yourself, looking at astrology for me has been all like mind-altering and changed how I move and I feel more regulated, really.
SPEAKER_00I think a lot of people think this is such woo versus that it's actually a science and it does help you feel regulated. I think that's maybe that's the terminology we honestly need to shift to. Because when when we say alignment, so many people are like, that's woo. But really, when you're you are aligned with your chart and your messaging and like where why you're supposed to be here on this earth, we are regulated. We're feeling better, we're saying we're living more authentically.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Absolutely. It regulates you, it gives you a sense of of. Direction and regulation. Yeah, it really does. Like I get up every day and I'm excited because I know what I'm supposed to do before. I used to feel restless, irritable, discontented, like really all the time. And now I do not feel that way. I feel regulated and I truly know a lot of it is because of the work that I'm doing. It's human.
SPEAKER_00So how does human design play into this? And also what is human design? Because a lot of people don't understand what that is. I know it's very in-depth.
SPEAKER_01It is very in-depth because there's a whole chart to it. But in in a general sense, the human design, like so, if you look at your profile, I can't believe yours, it's it's rare because for you, you're a manifester, which is really rare. You're a manifestor 6 2. So that's your profiles. How you're energetically built to work, to create, to attract. So how you're energetically made up to attract, to attract other energies, right? Yes, you're here to initiate movements. As a manifest 6-2, you're here to initiate movements, which this is a movement. Having these uncom not uncomfortable, but yeah, for some people, uncomfortable, really real, raw conversations that creates a movement. That's you'll see this will probably bring you, and I have no doubt about it, to a big movement. As a manifester, it's very important to trust your impulses. Trust your impulses and lead boldly embodying them on your own, right? That's interesting because, yes, with your Jupiter and Libra, it's a lot about collaboration, but your human design as a manifestor is more to initiate movements and through your impulses and trust them without others. A lot of it is actually your ideas, it's you, but you're collaborating to bring that expansion. And it's really not waiting for permission for approval. That's how I could word it. Not waiting for permission for approval and trusting your impulses. You're gonna start movements. I I have no doubt about it. Watch in a couple of years from now, this is gonna be a movement. I hope so. That's the goal. Well, that's where this is break. Do you see how they all build build up together? What I do know, what I can explain as a manifestor 6-2. I know that the six two, those are the titles, the hermit and the role model. So the sixth line is really showing that you're here to be a living example through experience. Through experience, that's the role model part, right? Where and then really you do need solitude to process as well. That's why the hermit comes in, right? Need solitude to process this so that you can be a role model through your experiences, right?
SPEAKER_00Right. Yes. I'm smiling and laughing because we in a space yesterday that we were both in, I was discussing how hard it is to get time alone to allow the thoughts to come through. And just like, you know, being a business owner, being a mom, being a partner, like wearing every hat that I wear, taking a minute for myself and not just a minute to go work out or to go do something for me, but like a moment of silence to actually align and kind of like taking your advice from our last episode to allow manifestation and thoughts to come through is so difficult for me. And so I in our call yesterday, I was like, okay, I'm gonna actually schedule this, and if things come through great, and if they don't, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And that's really part of the human design. So for you specifically, too, that that's actually necessary. Like you really do need downtime and solitude to process things so that you can amplify that sixth line. Yeah, taking that role model and your experience that you're gonna share. But then you also have that hermit line in there where you need that solitude to process. Yeah. And when you do that, that's how, again, expansion happens because you're taking that time to sit with all your experiences, what's happening, so that you can move it through in your everyday life, in your work, in your family, everything, right? So you can understand yourself, but there's more to it, there's a lot more to it. Like, truly, you could do dive into this so deeply with the human design.
SPEAKER_00This is just like a bite size, though. So, like when you start working with your clients and you're doing like a 15-minute, just kind of like general dive, it looks like this, though, of where we're piecing together our Jupiter sign, our human design, and our 10th house. Just understanding the basis of where we need to start shadow work, what makes us feel uncomfortable, and then what we like align with or feel good about in order to understand what fuels us to do the things that we're doing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So what I do do is I look at their chart in general, and then I will send them their frequency code, but your whole chart is important. Today I was kind of doing our frequency code as like an example for you. Yeah, but I'll look at their whole chart because it is as important, but this is more for like manifestation and expansion and how you operate. But of course, your whole chart's important, and also I just get a lot of messaging for people. Just it'll just come, like literally.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what is your messaging for me? Because this all just put a lot of pieces together for me, and it makes a lot of sense.
SPEAKER_01I'm so glad. Yeah, for you, there's the messaging coming through is that the receive part was the main thing was that you need to open yourself up to be able to receive and find solitude so that you have time to process things. Because, like I said, that messaging again, too, is that your mind is worth millions. It's saying that. And so having that downtime to process is very important because when you're going to do that, also the shadow work of being open to receive because you have like a wall up, right? A little bit of a so that would be let's knock that down, let's truly knock that wall down because then you'll be able to let you receive and flow with ease, and it'll just will naturally happen. So, yeah, the messaging for you is that your mind is worth millions, you need downtime and solitude to really be able to process what's going on and open yourself up to receive. But also another thing, too, is it's as if you're going through your own spiritual awakening. Like, I know you've had it, I'm sure you've experienced that, but this is so deep. Like since since 2023, really, actually.
SPEAKER_00I think that makes a lot of sense. Um, I had my daughter in 2024. We struggled with infertility in 22 and 23. And then since becoming a mother and shifting my business, I actually I opened my group practice in 2023. I've been really busy since 2023. And I think honestly, since having my daughter, it's opened an entire new part of my being that I didn't know even existed. And in the last few months, like probably six months, starting Hat Rack with Hannah.
SPEAKER_01It's really been initiated since 2023, where there's a shift that is the most profound ever in the best possible way, but it also has been very expansive in its own way. But now, like you said, the last six months, this is happening again. You definitely had some a spiritual awakening in yeah, 2023, maybe in your pregnancy. Sort of like that's what happened to me with my daughter Nivea. During my pregnancy, I had this massive spiritual awakening. That's like the first one that I really felt ever. And it was during my pregnant my pregnancy as well. So it does, it's like an out-of-body experience. Like, oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it is, and I think for me, it's just been like things clicking.
SPEAKER_01I thought things are clicking, yes. That's why there's something you can't fake it too. So it's just happening to you. It's very obvious in your energy and everything, and it's expanding now. So the more you can look within and really believe what's gonna happen is gonna happen. It's like I feel like you have a knowing, but there's a wall. So once we knock the wall down, then you're the all the doubt is gonna dissipate within yourself because it's um honestly your doubt too. It's not anyone else's, it's yours.
SPEAKER_00When you're manifesting huge things, right? And you want them to happen, but you're just when the narrative is running of the you can't or you need to be filtered, or the learned behavior of you can only give and not receive, that wall just gets really huge.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So for those, those are the things, and I know you'll go, you'll definitely overcome them, you'll work through them, and you'll feel just lighter. You really will. You you're you'll feel the wall come down. I know the wall is gonna come down, like and now I just feel it happening in the now. There's a movement around your energy that's indescribable, and something that is through your lived experience as well. Yeah, it's through your lived experience and what you've been through, and that's why your voice matters because there's something that you're gonna amplify that so many people, specifically women too, need to hear.
SPEAKER_00I love that, and I feel that. You know how some women say, like, as you grow up, you just give less fucks. So you start to not filter and not care. I think a lot of people miss that's actually their own spiritual awakening of taking off their mask and filter and allowing themselves to live authentically, but we can't call it that because you know, woo. But for many, I think that's actually what that is.
SPEAKER_01Completely, completely like 30.
SPEAKER_00People hit it differently in their lives, obviously.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, it's like 30s are where it at where it's at, but not true. It is at different periods of oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Mine just happened to be in my 30s. Well, I was gonna say it's so funny. My grandma, it's happening for her right now. Her filter is coming off, and she's saying whatever she wants to say, and we all sometimes laugh and sometimes are like, oh my gosh, she's gonna hear this and laugh. But um, people's filters just come off at different times in their life when they decide to live more freely.
SPEAKER_01Oh, what's her name?
SPEAKER_00Sue.
SPEAKER_01I knew she was with an Sash getting everyone to be authentic, live authentically, like we deserve it's our birthright to live free and authentic as we are.
SPEAKER_00Well, and often people think when you say like it's your birthright, that's a privilege that you have to live up to or succeed to then have that birthright, but it's not, it's just it's ingrained in us. And as long as you remove and work through the shadow work to like take hold of this birthright of living authentically, then you can have it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes. And and no matter where you are, too, no matter where you are or what you're going through or what's happening around you, you can have it, you can speak your truth, right? It's you don't have to hold back. And that's what I think keeps so many people stuck for so long, is because they're so afraid. Oh, yeah, but there's some liberation about just being completely authentic that you can see it in the people who have taken that initiation to just boldly be themselves and speak their truth. And that's when the messaging and what you're doing is going to expand because again, it's going to bring things to light that are usually not talked about.
SPEAKER_00And it's very important. Well, thank you so much for giving us an insight into the work that you do and get using me as an example and reading my frequency code. I'm so happy we got to do this, and I'm glad that we're adding this on because I feel like it just helps understand and put context to so much of the conversation we were having last week, but also, you know, just take the woo out of it, if you will, and help those understand like what alignment and what this work actually is and means. Because it's actually not woo at all. There's a lot of science to it.
SPEAKER_01A lot of science. When you and and you when you read, like, for example, your 10th house, your Jupiter, every single person I do it to, they're like, oh my goodness, that makes sense.
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SPEAKER_01And you read a different one and you're like, that doesn't make sense for me. It's always what is for the person, right? So it's like there's a science, there is a complete science to this.
SPEAKER_00Well, a lot of people just hear astrology and they go, that's woo, and like ignore it. But the people who embrace it really can also understand themselves better. And it's also one of those things like, why the hell not? Okay, so you try it and it doesn't, you just don't believe in it, okay, fine. But like, why not?
SPEAKER_01Why not? And why not? And then the shadow work transforms you. It's yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, and in psychotherapy world, we call that the deep trauma work instead of shadow work, but it's what helps us be free of the experiences that we've had that don't serve us and learn to place boundaries so we can serve ourselves.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely, absolutely. I've expanded so much since doing deep shadow work. It's incredible.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. I'm glad that we can do this. Thank you so much for joining me today. I appreciate it. And I will attach our free call with you and all of your socials and all of that. And so, hat rack listeners, go and follow and book your call with Jess. Yeah, no, thank you.
SPEAKER_01And we'll do your chart and dive into this, and it'll be very nice.