Redesigning Life with Sabrina Soto

Embracing Radical Responsibility & Cultivating Self-Love with Jessica Zweig

• Sabrina Soto and Jessica Zweig • Season 1 • Episode 78

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In this engaging conversation, Sabrina Soto and Jessica Zweig explore the transformative journey of becoming a lightworker, emphasizing the importance of self-discovery, radical responsibility, and the need for balance in life. They discuss the challenges of self-sabotage, the significance of setting boundaries, and the power of community support in personal growth. Jessica shares her own experiences and insights from her book, encouraging listeners to embrace their journey and recognize their potential for joy and fulfillment. In this engaging conversation, Jessica Zweig and Sabrina Soto explore the themes of balance, self-care, and redefining purpose. Jessica shares her journey of finding balance amidst the chaos of launching her book, emphasizing the importance of listening to one's body and the need for self-sovereignty. They discuss the societal pressures women face and the necessity of carving out time for oneself. The conversation shifts to the concept of purpose, with Jessica offering a fresh perspective that encourages individuals to embrace their unique missions in life, regardless of societal expectations. Finally, they touch on Jessica's aspirations to empower women and her philanthropic goals, highlighting the importance of community and support among women.


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The Light Work: Reclaim Your Feminine Power, Live Your Cosmic Truth, and Illuminate the World

Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Sabrina Soto. I believe the best conversations are with friends who are really able to open themselves up and share their lives, both the good parts and the bad. You're going to be listening to some of those candid conversations and hopefully gaining some insight to help you redesign your life from the inside out. Hi, jessica, hi, babe, jessica is uh, thank you for joining us on redesigning life. You're you, I consider you a friend, thank goodness, and such an amazing mentor. Your book is light work, the light work, and I read it and I have so many amazing things to tell you and ask you about this book. But, um, first of all, thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for having me. I'm so honored to be here and to be with you. It's the best.

Speaker 1:

Jessica is you're known for brand like. You're a brand expert, right? Yeah, Personal brand that DM me, listeners and even friends of mine that are going through this time of wanting to refresh themselves and being lost because of their age, whether they have children, whether they don't have children, whether they're married, divorced, old, young, and they don't know what to do. And I felt this every time. I was like on a hike or because I have the book. But I also listened to your audible, which I recommend the audible, because you get emotional, which you can't really feel when you're reading the book. I felt like, uh, empowered after I finished reading this. So, thank you for writing this book and I think that I it was almost like I had a friend being like you can do it. This book is that friend, that's like you can do it. You can do it For people who don't know, basically, what a light worker is for listeners. Can you kind of dumb it down for us?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, well, to your point about you know your community and you getting so many people being like I'm dying, like there's, I'm shifting identities and don't have kids. Have kids, I'm old, young, going through a breakup, starting a new relationship. Should I quit my job? I think what's happening right now, at this current inflection point in humanity and when I say humanity, I really look at things like in an eternal lens, like we're really here on an eternal timeline and humanity has been around for a couple hundred thousands of years, but the universe has been around for trillions of years. So there's that. But right now, I think it's such an exciting, exciting time to be alive because humanity is waking up, we're really waking up and we're becoming more connected to a higher reason and mission and why. And so, to answer your question on what it means to be a lightworker, it's the people who are willing to face the dark side of their own human experience, to go into their pain, to go into their shadow, to go into the question, to find the truth. You know, truth with a capital T, as I like to say. It is one of the core tenets of the Lightworks principles. But to really know that you're here to live your light, to be authentically you, to stand in truth and whatever that means for you. And that path isn't easy. That's some warrior shit, is what I call it. For us to go in, not around it, not to bypass it, to avoid it, to pretend it's not there, that's when things actually get worse and when we really truly look at our own dark. That's where we find our brightest light.

Speaker 2:

And to really commit to the path of the light worker, ultimately, is you committing to your own healing. It's you going deep into your childhood trauma, looking at your ancestral lineage, looking at your toxic relationships, looking at your own self-limiting beliefs and really coming home to the truth that you have sovereignty in this lifetime, that you can choose your own path. And I think all of us want to live in joy and live in love and live in vital health. And that's not a fantasy that's available to all of us and lightworkers really remember that truth. And that's not just like a one-time switch, that's like okay, now I'm remembered.

Speaker 2:

It's an ongoing journey that we commit to as lightworkers and when we all do that like, imagine a world where we're healed from trauma and we're taking care of our bodies and we're thinking positive thoughts and we're committing to service Like that's the world that I want to live in, and that's a light-filled world, and it starts with one person at a time, and so I think everyone has a responsibility to be a light worker. It's not elitist. Anybody can follow this path. It belongs to all of us and that's what I'm here for and that's why I you know we were just talking before we started recording why I've been so committed to getting this message out of the book, because it's a message that really belongs to each and every person on the planet right now.

Speaker 1:

Do you, and I can only speak for myself, but have you noticed that when you start going down the path of the light worker, of healing your own trauma and taking care of your body, like I feel like sometimes, when I'm really on that path, I almost sabotage myself? It's almost like, uh, the devil is on my shoulder being like, hey, you don't need to take care of your body today, take a day off. You know, really, eff it up today. It's like wild. Why is that that sometimes, when people are on this path and you're making headway, that there is this notion to sabotage the work that you've been doing and the progress that you've made?

Speaker 2:

I call that the programming I call that the matrix. That's just deep, deep seated programming of the third dimension which, for those that are maybe new to that term, it's just the reality that we're all living here in a 3D, three-dimensional earth plane. This is called the 3D and here's what I got in my own spiritual awakening when I went to Egypt. I mean, I've been on the journey for a long time, but I talk about my trip to Egypt extensively. I went about two years ago and that trip just totally fucked up my life in the most beautiful way. But the real, true birthright of all of us is joy, like that's like limitless joy, and to trust life, that it's not going to bottom out and the other shoe isn't going to drop. And it's like one of my favorite questions is like how good can I stand it? Right, but we're not conditioned to believe that, to feel that, to consciously move through life like that. In fact, we're programmed the opposite from our parents, from what we look at when we turn on the news, we're being bombarded with fear. Right, fear is like the vibrational baseline, as I call it, on earth 3d. It is duality here there's love and there's fear and that's it. Like those are the two polarities. We've come here as souls to evolve through. That's the assignment, that's the lesson, and so fear is, unfortunately, that the higher kind of station that's like we're all tuned into and we get tripped up into it constantly, whether it's like, oh, I'm freaking out about the election, to like I'm not going to work out today because I don't really feel like my body deserves to feel healthy and vital unconscious thoughts, and so it's really about becoming hyper aware, like really having a mental boot camp inside that brain of yours to catch yourself, to love yourself through those moments and to choose different options, because we all truly have agency. That's the true message of the lightworker, the Pleiadians, which I talk about in my book.

Speaker 2:

We are not just empowered here. Empowered is an anointment. I empower you, sabrina, to go out and be a badass and have your own show. I could say that to you, doesn't matter what I say. Are you self-empowered? Are you self-empowered? And that is really, I think, the the truth and the opportunity that we're all like coming home to. And so you're you're. You're like everyone else on this planet.

Speaker 2:

We self-sabotage constantly, but that's not necessarily you, your highest self, that's your old programming and self-limiting beliefs and probably something your parents instilled in you unconsciously, based on their fear and your grandparents' fear and your great-grandparents' fear and your great-great-great-great-grandparents'. This is why I say it's such an incredible inflection point of humanity, because we get to turn the wheel, we get to rewrite the story, we get to show up differently, and I don't think we could have been having a podcast like we weren't having conversations like this in the 50s, in the 60s, in the 70s, in the 80s even. It's like what an exciting time to be alive that we have these resources, that we have these tools, that we have these medicines, that we have books and podcasts that are so abundantly available for our collective awakening, and so I think that it's just normal, but at the same time, it can be rewritten into a new normal.

Speaker 1:

But I also do believe that you're saying you have to self-empower, and I understand that. I also believe that everyone needs a hype woman or just like people around to be like, no, you can Cause, when I was, I have a project that I'm working on now and I called you about it and asked your advice and you're like yeah, no, call it that. And I'm like are you sure that's egotistical, I don't know. And it's like you need people to be like wake up, no, you're good. So I do believe that I also you.

Speaker 1:

You talked about your trip to Egypt and you talk about it a lot in the book. And it's funny because I remember I was on a hike when I was listening to this part and I'm like well, jessica, I'm not, I can't go to Egypt anytime soon. And I think at that next sentence you're like and you don't need to go to Egypt. And I'm like, okay. So I know that that was a complete shift in your awareness, in your life. It was a life-changing trip. For people who cannot take a trip that grand, how can you bring that sort of shift into your own life just living in your, you know, anywhere town?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you for bringing that up, because I say very explicitly like this book is not here to convince you to buy a plane ticket. It's here to show you that you have everything in your own power, in your own hands, right now, to change your life. You know, and and I just I'll start by answering this question by taking your audience back a little bit, because you know you'd mentioned I was in branding, I was in personal brand. I ran an agency. I've been a serial entrepreneur my entire life. I went broke at 33, running my first business turned around, started my second business. It blew up, became a multimillion dollar business very quickly. I was at the peak of my career, winning awards, getting asked to keynote across the country, had a number one ranking podcast. My first book was a number one bestseller.

Speaker 2:

And it was at that inflection point in my career when I was like literally at the top, that I wanted to die, that I wanted to actually like burn my whole business down, and I fell into the deepest state of clinically diagnosed depression and full on physical, mental, emotional burnout, right, that's what was really going on behind the scenes and I stepped into that country in that state and I left with all of this new information, I left that country 15 days later, a different person really, and the biggest memo that I got from that entire experience was like that I had missed the whole plot of the human experience, actually, that it was intended for my enjoyment, that I was missing my own life by being so focused on my pain and not focused on, frankly, the word that I got in so many of these temples was like it's supposed to be fun, jessica. It's supposed this human experience is meant to be fun, to enjoy your life, every single second of your life, to not take for granted the fact that you can have sex and eat chocolate and kiss your dogs and wear cute clothes. Like you are taking for granted this human life, like not every other species in the universe gets to do this thing called be a human, and you're you're just watching it flow by you because you're so focused on what, like money in the bank, success, how many followers you have, like what, how your genes fit you like, you're missing it, and so I think the first thing I would say to somebody who can't go to Egypt and that's most people is is to just simply take a look at what is not working in their own lives and claim radical responsibility for it. Like that is the unlock of personal growth is radical response.

Speaker 2:

I have a whole chapter in the book called power, claiming radical responsibility. And it's this concept of you point one finger at somebody try it right now you have three pointing back at yourself, like you can blame the weather, you can blame your husband's mood, you can blame your boss, but at the end of the day, you're in charge, girl, you. It's all up to you all of the pain, all of the sadness and all of the glory and the joy. And when we really truly unlock that. That's why there's a key on the cover of my book. It's, it's intended to be a key for you to realize. You hold that key, you, you, you can unlock your own lock. And the first step and we can go deeper and deeper, because the book really does take you on a journey into, like romantic relationships, friendships, money, body, you know purpose, emotions.

Speaker 2:

But you can't get anywhere unless you're willing to like assign the role of the lead character of your own life, that you are the main character and you, you get to write your own story and it starts with the power of your own thoughts. Like thought is thought creates. I say that in my book. Like you, create your own reality with the power of your thoughts. So stop playing victim because you're not.

Speaker 2:

It's easy to feel that way. We all go through. You know seasons of life where we feel like life is happening to us. It's happening not just for us, which we've heard. It is happening to us. It's happening not just for us, which we've heard, it's happening by us, it is happening through us, it is happening as us and when we really just take that finger pointing down and look in the mirror, that is like the true unlock to change the game.

Speaker 2:

So that is really what I would advise and definitely go pick up my book Because, like Sabrina said, I am your sister, I am your friend. What I would advise? And definitely go pick up my book Because, like Sabrina said, I am your sister, I am your friend, I'm your partner in that book. I am not your guru.

Speaker 2:

I'm still figuring out this human experience myself and I really lay it down in my own naked stories, like I'm very raw and vulnerable in this book, and share things I've never shared in service of the reader, so that she or he who ever picks it up, never has to feel alone again. And I love what you said about like me being your hype woman. Like, don't, you, don't have to buy a plane to Cairo Egypt. But like call your therapist, call your best friend, go for a walk. Like, lean on the people in your life, because this is not meant to be taken alone, this journey. We are not an island. We need people to hold us accountable, to hold up mirrors for us, to love us through our pain, and that is you know, that's available to anybody, whether you can get on a plane or not.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree and I think it's funny that you are so open and honest about how, in the height of what everybody's looking at from the outside, it's like, oh, she's killing it right now. You were killing your soul. Right then you were killing it, but not in a good way, and it's this morning. I'll give you just what happened this morning. I have so much to do today. It was one of those days this morning I have so much to do today. It was one of those days I called it like a book report day.

Speaker 1:

Where do you remember in school where you had like a book report done on Monday but you haven't even opened the book and you're like playing with your friends on the weekend and you know it's like the looming on top of you have so much. You have to read this freaking book before Monday. And I felt like this morning it was like a book report Monday and I went on a hike this morning and I went with Nate and he was like, don't you have a million things you have to do? It's like, yes, but my, my thirties were spent only working. I had no balance. I burnt out. I was, you know, just down because all I did was work, eat and sleep. That's it to what to climb the ladder to be a spokesperson of this huge company, and I had no life. But when we're talking earlier and you do talk about this in your book of just creating balance and you had to sort of burn it down to rebuild it, how has that whole experience um affected the way that you balance your life now?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Well, we go through seasons. This is something I've really surrendered to. So you know, I came home from Egypt and literally my entire life turned around, like I wouldn't even say turned, like it just dramatically transformed. In less than 12 months I ended up selling my business. I slowed down, I moved cities. I got into nature as a practice. I made play a practice. I made boredom a practice. I like my identity when I say I went into that country and I died. I did. I left that same hustling like work, eat, sleep. That was me my entire 30s as well, climbing, climbing, climbing. And I say this in the book Like I decided, like when I looked back at my career, it like made me really proud but it also made me really sad because I realized how little I enjoyed it and I was like I'm going to take back my chips that I felt like I owed to the matrix, this hamster hustle wheel, constant, go, go, go and call it and just really work on peace and make peace my version of success.

Speaker 2:

Peace and make peace my version of success. And you know, today I I have a different level of boundaries Now. I went through a book launch this year and I said yes to a lot of opportunities. I overpacked my schedule. I was all over the country, I was on a ton of airplanes, like I really did burn the midnight oil once again for this moment of my book launch and I actually got really sick at the end and like had to really shut things down for real.

Speaker 2:

This was all in the last six weeks but it was such a beautiful another portal. I called it another death portal because I was like oh, there's still this little part of you that gets like a hit, like a dopamine hit, from being that busy and I think we have to shed those layers that are so deeply programmed in us. Just because I went to Egypt doesn't mean like I'm fully fucking healed, like I actually had it revealed to me this year, like oh, there's still pieces of you that are still alive, that aren't serving you, and to just give yourself grace that we're going to go through seasons of busy and slow to honor our bodies. You know I'll give. I'll give the example actually of you, sabrina.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm coming out of this season of busy kind of coming back to the like pace and the lifestyle that I really cherish, which is a lot of groundedness and at home and my own morning routine and my home cooked meals and all the things, and you asked me to be on your show in November. There's a such a deep part of me that was like, oh my God, I want to. I want to be there for you. I'd such a beautiful opportunity and I looked at my schedule and I'm like, technically, could I have flown to LA for three days? Yes, but my body was like, please don't do that, let's just take a beat. You've been traveling for six months. There'll be another opportunity with Sabrina next year and you can say no, and it was oh God, that's so hard.

Speaker 1:

It was hard. It's so difficult, I think, for people to say no when because you, just you, live in the fear goes back into the fear.

Speaker 2:

Right, I mean, it was hard and I love you, but it was really hard for a few days. And here's another hack like don't react. Like there's this part of you that's like used to saying yes right away out of the excitement and the enthusiasm and the like, specialness you feel. And then you give it a couple of days and you really tune into your future self of like how you're going to feel in four or five weeks when you are actually getting onto that plane or stepping onto that stage or going into that meeting, whatever it is for you where you're going to feel heavy and you're going to regret it because you'd rather sleep in or you'd rather like spend that time with your kids or whatever it might be. And here's the unlock it's like shifting out of the fear right.

Speaker 2:

Fear manifests itself in so many ways. It manifests itself in scarcity, imposter syndrome, comparison, competitiveness, like all of it. And for me to say yes out of fear that I would lose that opportunity and that I wouldn't be able to come on your show in the future, is a scarcity mindset. But I'm like you know what. She's going to have another show, she's going to have another season and even if she doesn't. I've got Sabrina in my life and my friendship with her is the most abundant part of my relationship with her. And I'll get asked to be on another show Maybe I'll have my own show one day, or it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

Like there was a different, there was a shift in my mentality that wasn't gripping to that one singular thread of an opportunity, knowing that if I let go, there's like a whole spindle that unravels of like infinite possibilities. And that's a practice you know, and I've. I've learned the hard way. You know, I got invited this year to go to Richard Branson's Island in the middle of, like, my book tour and again I could have technically made it work and I said yes right away.

Speaker 2:

And then I like was feeling it in my body for like the week afterwards I was like I heard my body in the meditation say please don't do that to me in May, please don't do that to me. So I backed out and I like was about to cut this big fat check to go and this woman who invited me like was counting on me and I had to disappoint her. And that's something that Terry Cole talks about. It's so powerful around boundaries, it's like there's so many and she's the boundary boss and the expert. But you have to be willing to disappoint people. You have to be okay disappointing people when you draw boundaries, because that's just inevitably what's going to happen and I know that you were probably disappointed I couldn't come, but like it didn't ruin our friendship and it didn't ruin.

Speaker 1:

I knew there was a reason.

Speaker 2:

Except people are all give people the benefit of the doubt they're going to understand.

Speaker 1:

I swear, jessica, if anybody's listening, this is a really, really, because you and I haven't talked about this. When I got the email that you just weren't able to, I'm like, oh, that stinks Next time and I never. I was just like there's obviously a reason, because if she could, she would.

Speaker 2:

And that's it Right, and that's. You know, not everybody's listening who's getting invited on to Sabrina Soto's show. But like we can, we can all.

Speaker 1:

Just disappointing anybody. You'd be surprised that it's. You probably think like, oh, they're going to be mad, they're going to be sort of this. They're not going to like invite me ever again. It's like you'd be surprised that people are like okay, yeah, it sucks. I would have loved to, but that's okay.

Speaker 2:

Right, you trip yourself future, trip yourself out. You borrow trouble in your own brain way mental gymnastics of how you're like going to make it up to this, but this person probably doesn't even care, or if they, if anything, they're like I get it, babe, you do you, I support you Like that's really typically what happens.

Speaker 1:

And it's that's how I am. When I have to say no to something, it's not only that I say no, I also have to give everybody a like five paragraph explanation why I can't and it's unnecessary.

Speaker 2:

It's unnecessary. Exactly, that just burns energy. So I'm I'm softer, I'm slower, I'm more rested and I'm more presence, and I think that's, I think, has always been the aim. It just took me a lot of dark nights of the soul to get there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, I saw you in your book launch. I went to a panel that you had and you were just every other day. I felt like you were on an airplane, or but so in in a case like that where you are working on a project, if somebody is working on a project that it's their baby, in a sense, this book is your baby, like, how did you find balance during that time, or did you not? I mean, at some points there are seasons you were saying their seasons are like. Does that mean that some days, sometimes, you aren't going to be as balanced as others?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, I mean I I carved out balance in pockets, Like when I was home I like really was vigilant with my morning routine and my boundaries and my sleep and my diet and my playtime. But you know, launching a book is kind of like birthing a baby, planning a wedding, like it's kind of insane, it's a very, it's an anomaly, like it's not normal. And if I could do it all over again, really what I would have done and I know this sounds like a luxury I probably would have taken a month off after the book launch, cause I was on the road for like six months, like I was in it hard for six months, and I I took five days off. I went to like the mountains with my husband over Labor Day weekend. It wasn't enough time and I really have learned at 43 that my body can only be pushed so hard Like I could push myself through a 12 months sprint when I was 35 or whatever.

Speaker 1:

But I can't do that anymore, Like when we get older a lot of things I did in my thirties that I can't do that anymore.

Speaker 2:

Like when we get older, a lot of things I did in my thirties that I can't do anymore, same same. I look back at all these chapters of my life, I'm like I and I kind of I kind of love getting older in that way, I love slowing down and and and being a little bit more sensitive. I think that's what happens when you become more conscious and you're more connected to your body. And so much of my burnout was just due to the fact that I was ignoring my body, like I wasn't in a real relationship with my body. It was like, oh, woke up this morning, have my period and I've got seven meetings in a row with absolutely no breaks. Like maybe I should reschedule one of those or two of those so that I can lay down or take a nap or go for a walk. Like we don't give ourselves that much permission as women, especially to truly listen to our bodies. And that's been one of the biggest upgrades.

Speaker 2:

I guess once you get in your body, you have to move, because we're pieces of the earth, right? We're pieces of Gaia, and when you think about the seasons, how slow and intentional Gaia moves, like the pace of the human, like the modern day society that we're in. It is insanity the amount of I think we have like a million pieces of data that come at us every single day. Like we think 70 thoughts a day and most of those thoughts are the same exact thoughts we had the day before. Think 70 thoughts a day and most of those thoughts are the same exact thoughts we had the day before. Like I went to the Amazon jungle years ago and I like tapped into real Mother Earth, indigenous culture, indigenous tribes, that the way that they commune and work with the earth it's.

Speaker 2:

It used to be like humanity's norm and we've been around, like I said, for hundreds of thousands of years. That's how we are designed. And yet here we are in the last I don't know two or three decades, and specifically the last like 15 years. The pace of how we're expected to consume and keep up is literally like machine level and no wonder we're all suffering and burnt out and tired and exhausted and overwhelmed. It's like we have to be vigilant with ourselves. Call back, I mean I often use this word, sovereignty, which is another beautiful word for boundary like to know to have your own self authority, like that is what sovereignty is, and to just like tap out, like press pause, like yes, you're going to disappoint people or not, as we were saying, the world isn't going to fall apart, your business isn't going to blow up, your family is not going to like kick you out. Like you have the right to slow down, and when we slow down, we get so much of our own information, we get cosmic.

Speaker 1:

I know, okay, I'm going to tell I'm going to share something with you. You don't know this and it has to do with you, but I remember when I was um, sometimes I share too much Uh, I remember one of these times that I was like super busy and I remember you were just on a walk. You were on a walk like your morning walk, and there was something inside of me. I was like hissed. I don't know Like now I know why, but I'm just like you're going on a walk, like, and then it's like the saying of like the things you hate and other people is what you really. It's because I wasn't allowing myself any time to take for myself and that's why it ignited something inside of me.

Speaker 2:

It was jealousy of like what do you mean?

Speaker 1:

you're in a forest walking, get back to work. You know, totally, totally, we are, especially as women I know this is going to push a lot of buttons with people, but especially as women, we have so much to balance working. You know our bodies, our cycle, some of us are mothers, you know, like our homes, our pets, our friendships, our community, our churches are. You know, the list goes on and on and we never give ourselves time to reconnect. And what you just said, it's those times where you disconnect, where you you get the most information, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I went to the.

Speaker 1:

Hoffman Institute. I've talked about a lot in my podcast, but the most powerful part of the Hoffman Institute was seven days of disconnecting, seven days of not having a phone or just being by yourself and meditating.

Speaker 2:

Girl. I turned my phone off for three days a couple of weekends ago. Granted, I was so sick, but I was like I can't take this. I can't have one piece of stimulation. It was the best three days I've had in. I don't even know how long. I had no sense of time. I was so low stress. I was so present. I was so in the flow. My husband and I usually do Saturday night date night. I didn't take my phone out. I'm usually on my phone when I'm at dinner. I was at the best date night with my husband. I had so much fun with him. Like we are so inundated, and women especially. I love that you brought that into the conversation because we're designed like we are born to be givers. Like babies come out of us and the first thing they do is like suck on our boob. Like we're here to give life, we're here to create life and we do that in so many ways. And when do we receive? Like? When do we receive.

Speaker 1:

It's just the walk, so give us all permission. How, how much time do you think, at a very minimum, that we should be giving ourselves a day to just walk or meditate or journal or whatever?

Speaker 2:

I mean I want to be sensitive because there's certain people probably listening to your show that, like, have four kids and a big full-time job and committed to the PCA, and like carpool, like. So I could say, like minimum three hours. I wasn't going to say that, but I just want to be sensitive to those listening that I understand that, like everybody right, like you can't, like you know, blanket statement for every single person, but I would say at least an hour, like if you can give yourself an hour, and that's what, like why people ritualize their mornings and get up extra early and carve out that time, cause sometimes that's literally the only time of the day one can. And I would say, even if you can't do an hour, if that's unrealistic, I get it, you've got. You've got five minutes, you've got 10 minutes. Like, go outside, if you live in a warm enough area, and like, take off your shoes and socks and stand in the grass and ground and look at the sun. Go, sit down in your favorite corner of your house.

Speaker 1:

Don't look directly into the sun.

Speaker 2:

Don't look directly unless it's before, like 5 or 6 am, but, like, get the sun on your skin like vitamin D, it upgrades you. It's light, it's literal quantum light. You know, go find a quiet corner with tea, coffee, a journal, even just close your eyes and listen to a beautiful song for five minutes. Like your relationship with yourself is the most important, sacred, non-negotiable, self-loving relationship you like will ever have in your life. And if you do not cultivate that, it's just going to lead you to more, I think, overwhelmed bitterness, resentment, darkness, depression. Like that relationship to self, silence, solitude, those to me are cheaper than therapy and they're, if not equally, if more powerful. And so, yeah, a walk is great If you can get in a walk like a walking meditation.

Speaker 2:

Don't listen to a podcast, don't have someone else's voice in your brain, listen to music or go in silence and listen to the birds. Like, give yourself the permission to be a little uncomfortable in your own company, build the muscle to be with you. So just simply be with yourself and you'll become hooked. It's the best. It is the best thing in life is to cultivate. That's why we're really here. Is the journey is not without, it is within. And I just yeah, five minutes if you've got it, an hour if you can and if you can't. Do that like make a weekend a sacred ritual. Give your kids to your husband or a babysitter. Or just tell your friends, like I'm not going to go to brunch and drink mimosas, like I'm going to go out by myself for a walk and see what happens.

Speaker 1:

The unlimited mimosas are never a good idea, guys. No, never, Actually never For so many reasons, especially not in your 40s.

Speaker 2:

No, definitely not, and if you're in your twenties or thirties, you're just probably gonna end up doing something stupid.

Speaker 1:

Anyway what advice would you give to somebody who feels disconnected from their purpose right now, if they're listening to this and like, yeah, something's not right. I'm not necessarily fulfilled with my life for a number of reasons, but I don't really know what to do. What would advice would you give somebody?

Speaker 2:

Well, you can go read my book, the Light Work, because there's a whole chapter on this called Mission, and I write about purpose because I've never really loved that word. For years I always had a very complicated relationship with that word because there's a sense of absolutism to that word. Purpose Do you know your purpose? Have you found your purpose? Are you living your purpose? I was actually just at a company last week giving a talk about this and I asked the room. There were about 30 women in the room. It wasn't that big, but all this to say, I asked the room for a raise of hands. How many women in this room feel like they're living their purpose? Do you want to know how many women raised their hand out of 30? Maybe two, one, one. And you know who? That one woman was you, the owner of the company? The owner of the company Right, of course she's on purpose, but like not everybody wants to own it, like there's this just kind of like ultimatum with that word.

Speaker 2:

If you find it great, if you don't, are you fucked, like? No, I don't think that's the case. I think the word purpose, the way that I define it, the way I wrote about it in the book is typically assigned to how we go out and live our purpose and make money from our purpose, and like impact the world with our purpose. Fine, some people's purposes change, right, they, they evolve. Some people feel like they never find it. I don't think that that matters. Like purpose is, you know, assigned to, like what you do and, in a way, who you are. I say that your mission is why you are like, why you incarnated here, and I'm going to go a little like spiritual here and talk about, like the cosmos and the galactic things that I believe in. But we've come here in these human lives on an assignment. Like we chose to come here from another part of the universe to evolve into more love. Like that's really what I think this whole game is on this planet. And you don't have to make a ton of money or start a company or have some big, beautiful brand or your.

Speaker 2:

Your mission could be raising a beautiful family. Your mission could be like planting a garden and like serving, you know, regenerative food from the earth to your, your community. Like your, your mission could be a love of a sport that, like you find your soul on the golf course. Like I'm making that up because you know, it's my husband's mission, like they're. You know my best friend who's in interior design and she's she's good at it. She's always been an artist, but she's not living her purpose and she's struggled finding her purpose. She had two daughters. She thought she'd find her purpose being a mom. She didn't. And she picked up art and she makes beautiful canvas paintings in her basement and sells them on Etsy and like that's her mission, like art brings her alive your mission, how to design your mission, how to get more connected to why you are here, and it just removes the, the programming and the matrix that has conditioned us all to believe that we have to do something like purposeful to matter. It's like no, you were born, you fucking matter you were born.

Speaker 1:

I remember like that was a part of the book that I I think I needed to hear, but I feel like everyone needs to hear of just like you're there, you just being, you're enough, just that. And like I, you're right. Like not, there's no other Sabrina Soto, no, and there's. There's a reason that I, you know, in in the combination of who I am, what makes me different, what it could, that's just my purpose too. It doesn't have to be saving, you know, opening up an orphanage or something so grand, and I think that's what, when people hear purpose, they think it has to be something like like you have to be a saint in order to do that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, it's, it's we all. We are all here for a reason, a divine reason that is unique to you, that doesn't require you to be anything other than you. It's why you came here to live that light, to be that light worker. And that looks different for all of us.

Speaker 1:

It does now. So you had the branding business, you sold it, you started, or you just came out with the book. Now what's next? What's next for Jessica?

Speaker 2:

So I sold my agency and I started my new business. So I'm always going to be a hustler babe a spiritual hustler that's the name of my podcast and I I basically came out as a coach and I'm working with all sorts of female entrepreneurs in my programs. I have a business school online, I have a mastermind, I host retreats, I do one-to-one coaching and I'm basically just simply dedicated to helping women remember who the fuck they are and to really wake up to the power that has been like dormant inside their cells. As women that have been conditioned to believe we're like the lesser here on this planet, which is not true. And you know I'm building a business that doesn't run my life but that fuels my life.

Speaker 2:

I'm building a house in the woods of Tennessee, outside of Nashville. It's on five acres, in the middle of like deep forest, and I cannot wait to like call that my sanctuary. I have two dogs. I want to adopt more. I want to write more books.

Speaker 2:

I am just here to simplify my life, to go narrow and deep versus shallow and wide, you know, to really help other women rise. Women rise Like if I can build a nice business that helps women make a billion dollar impact. Like that's what I'm up to, and I definitely am good at business, I'm good at money, I know how to manifest and make it and I don't want that to be a secret and I feel like I just get to pour into all of these women who are interested in growing businesses and brands, to give them the shortcuts, but to do it in a way that honors their feminine, that honors their receptivity, that helps them design businesses that aren't like killing them. And so, yeah, I've got a lot, a lot more I want to do, but I'm doing it in my own pace.

Speaker 2:

And if you really want to know my end game, sabrina, like really, really what I want to do, I want to make a bunch of money so I can give it all back to the animals, the sentient animals, the earth, the oceans. There's just such. I'm so connected to the animal kingdom and I feel like we think we're like superior as the human species, but we're so not, and it's a travesty what's happening literally on every continent. So that's really what I'd love to do is become like a philanthropist at the very end of it all, and and I give money now, I don't just not waiting, but I really feel very dedicated to that cause.

Speaker 1:

And I know the. You are the epitome of women supporting other women and I think a lot of people like talk that talk, but don't walk the walk, and you absolutely do. I mean, just in the time that we've been friends, you've also opened your network up to me and I've made even other. You know amazing friends and anybody listening in their forties knows like making girlfriends in your forties is not the easiest thing to do. So I've been so grateful for our friendship, for all of your knowledge and you know just your heart as well and for anyone listening on. Like. As always, in the notes I'll have Jessica's information or Instagram, how to get in touch with her and a link to buy her amazing book. It's so good, but get the audible to get both.

Speaker 2:

I have both. Get both, cause there's a lot of um frameworks, like I have. At the end of every chapter I have what's called an invitation and a key, and the invitation is a set of journaling prompts and the key is like an exercise and there's tons of like worksheets and frameworks in the book itself.

Speaker 1:

But everyone's like I know I I really do mean that you have to get the book and the audible, because the audible is so powerful your voice, your emotions. But what I love is, at the end of the book, the resources that you have. You have a playlist, you have the resource. I'm like you kind of need this, you need this area too, like in printed form.

Speaker 2:

That's one of my favorite parts of the book. It's like the ultimate toolkit and resource guide to becoming a true light worker by the way, I lied, I have two books.

Speaker 1:

I have the soft version that you sent me, which is so beat up, it's like, because I traveled with it, so this is the nice one. I love that. I love that you have all the light.

Speaker 2:

You're so welcome. Thank you, sabrina, I love you. I want to just say in front of your whole community, who knows you and is here because they love you you're a girl's girl, you're the real deal. You're one of the most warm and deep and kind and genuine friends and women I've met in this space. Like you walk, your walk too, and what you see Sabrina Soto's like image as being this like girl next door, badass bestie, like she is that in real life.

Speaker 2:

And you are just so sacred, unless you cut me off. Well, same girl, that's what I call when a girl comes out too. Get out of my way.

Speaker 1:

I was with somebody at the Trader Joe's parking lot. I was with my friend Trish and she was like Sabrina, what if they recognize you?

Speaker 2:

I'm like oh well, my friends call me Jessamine. They're like you're Jessamine when you get behind the wheel.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, thank you, thank you, we'll have you back on again. I love you, thank you.