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Redesigning Life with Sabrina Soto
Redesigning Life with Sabrina Soto is a podcast dedicated to inspiring intentional living, personal growth, and transformation. Hosted by design expert and lifestyle expert Sabrina Soto, each episode dives into conversations about wellness, mindset, home and self-improvement with leading experts and thought leaders. With a mix of practical advice, heartfelt storytelling and empowering insights, Redesigning Life is your go-to space for creating a life that feels as good as it looks... one thoughtful choice at a time.
Redesigning Life with Sabrina Soto
The NASA Research Scientist Who Proves Astrology Is Actually Science
If you've ever felt stuck, unclear about your purpose, or like you're living someone else's life, your birth chart might hold the answers.
Jill Brown is a former NASA research scientist turned evolutionary astrologer, and she approaches the stars the same way she approached her research: with precision, pattern recognition, and proof. In this episode, she makes the case for astrology as "cosmic weather," a forecasting tool that's been studied and observed for centuries.
We dive deep into why most people are reading their charts wrong and why your sun sign might not actually be your dominant energy. Jill explains what your South Node reveals about past life karma and the patterns you're here to break, and how to tell if you're meant for visible, public leadership versus private, inner healing work. We also explore the major planetary transits happening right now that are creating massive shifts in 2025-2026, why some people physically need beauty to function (yes, it's actually in your chart), and the real stories of children remembering past lives.
Whether you're astrology-obsessed or completely skeptical, this episode offers a fresh, grounded perspective that might just change how you see yourself and your path forward.
Jill Brown's Website:
https://www.eightstarsastrology.com/
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Welcome to Redesigning Life. I'm your host, Sabrina Soto, and this is the space where we have honest conversations about personal growth, mindset shifts, and creating a life that feels truly aligned. In each episode, I'll talk to experts in their fields who share their insights to help you step into your higher self. Let's redesign your life from the inside out.
SPEAKER_01:Welcome to Redesigning Life, another episode. This one's gonna be good and juicy because today I have Jill Brown with us. Jill is a former NASA research scientist who's turned into an evolutionary astrologer. She founded Eight Stars Astrology. Jill, I am so excited to get started because I know you pulled my chart. Thank you for being here. I'm so excited. Thank you for having me, Sabrina. Oh my gosh. So, first of all, I want to know about astrology and how I think some people look at astrology and they think it's just woo-woo psychic stuff. But I mean, you are it's to me, I'm so impressed with your background. I mean, like you were a scientist. And like if you believe in astrology and it guiding our lives, it's it's real. So how is astrology really science?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think it's interesting because people I hear that often from folks. I and they'll say stuff like, well, I don't believe in astrology or astrology's vanity, et cetera. And what I think is interesting about that is to me, astrology is essentially a cosmic forecast, the same way we have meteorology that predicts it has forecasting models. We can help predict the weather. We can tell you where we think a storm's coming in, right? Different fronts moving around. That's what astrology is. It is the science of cosmic activities and cosmic transits. And with those transits and activities are correlated events, correlated energies, correlated um, you know, interplays of energy. And so I always think it's funny because I'm like, well, you don't have to believe in meteorology as a science, but it's happening, whether you believe it or not. So you may as well kind of learn about it and check the weather forecast. It's the same with astrology. And how does that work? Like, how does it work? How does it work? So it's um, well, it's interesting because it's actually based on astronomy, right? We all know that the planets rotate, the planets orbit, the planets have all these different interactions. And astrology is just centuries of studying those same astronomy movements and then observing energetic patterns and um uh, you know, qualities and traits and characteristics that correspond with those planets, those movements and the astrolog the astronomy, you know, aspects of it. So it is scientific. In fact, in, you know, I think we discredit our ancestors as being very um stupid for lack of a better word. Like we look back and we're like, oh ha ha ha, they were using astrology, like what a bunch of idiots. We have science now. But it it was a form of science and remains a form of science. It's observable, it's repeatable, it has patterns, right? And those are all the things that we look for in science. It's just that we also have now the natural sciences and we have the advancement of technology that can tell us more about solar systems and galaxies far, far away that our predecessors didn't have because of certain aspects of the technological advancements. But it is a scientific process. It is repeatable, it is observable, it is, you know, all the things that we would think of as being scientific, right? And then you put on that a lens of interplay, a lens of personal experience, a lens of uh freedom and free choice and free will. So I don't think astrology is predetermination necessarily, but it is repeatable patterns that we can use to help improve our life and showcase a mission and help us get on stock when we feel stuck. It's there to help us and to guide us. And then it's our choice how we want to interact with that, both in our own natal chart and in just the broader transit of what's going on in the world.
SPEAKER_01:But how does it affect our lives? Like, I that no one's been able to explain to me how it affects, like I was born in Miami at this time, on this date. How do the stars affect my life just because I was born on that date and that time in that place?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I would say it's not necessarily that they they they cast a model and a lens through which you can look at your life and your experience, right? And the idea, at least in evolutionary astrology, is that we were consciousness before we came into this like physical world and we made a choice about when we were going to enter. And that choice is marked by our natal chart. And it is trying to tell us, okay, it's it's almost to me like a reminder. Like, okay, Sabrina, you chose to come in on the 27th of December. And the reason you chose that, if you choose to look up your natal chart later, is because you have a very specific mission and a very specific set of um opportunities to guide your life and your karma essentially in this lifetime. You can choose to do those things or not, but they're usually a way to help us reconcile or um or make different choices from from past life experiences because it's all about growing. It's about learning, it's about choosing opportunities.
SPEAKER_01:So this goes even further and deeper than us just being born in these human, you know, on earth. And like you're saying, this goes past to like your consciousness choosing to be here. And then because of that with the planets comes the because of that time that you chose is what your destiny could be.
SPEAKER_02:Could be, yes. Yes. I think it's your highest opportunity or your highest calling if you choose to embrace that. And often it's because we had a experience in another lifetime that that left a mark for better or worse, and we're here to kind of have a new set of opportunities, right?
SPEAKER_01:Right. Okay, so let's say, like, yeah, in my past life something happened, and I was like, hey, I want to go back there again because I want to learn how to do that differently or whatever, whatever whatever the case is. Astrology allows you to get a glimpse into that. Correct. Correct. Okay. So what does that even mean? The natal chart, the Chiron, like what I don't even know what that means.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah. So I guess to just baseline everybody's understanding, there are different forms of astrology. There's a lot of different, there's Vedic astrology, there's evolutionary astrology, there's different systems, there's whole house systems, and it can get infinitely complex, right? It's a complex landscape. They are all just different lenses of studying the stars, right? And trying to put together a chart and a mission. So the reason I was specifically drawn to evolutionary astrology is I happened to get my chart read right at a time when I had my first my oldest daughter, my first child. And I was feeling really actually quite stuck, sort of professionally. And, but I also like had this daughter that I loved. And I was feeling this very like push-pull between like I have this career and this mission that I feel really strong about, but I also have this baby and I kind of feel stuck and I'm not sure what to do. And um, married to somebody who had a career in the Navy. So that was very telling us where we had to be, which was impact impacting my career. And I have a master's degree. I don't really want to go live in this place that you were assigned to live. I'd like to keep my job at NASA. Um, and so there was a lot of stuckness and frustration, even though there was a lot of good happening too. And so just I thought, you know, I'm gonna get my chart right. I've always wanted to do that. And the woman I went to was an evolutionary astrologer. I didn't know that. I just picked an astrologer, right? And she was great and highly recommended. And this woman sat across from me and told me things about my childhood and my life and places of stuckness, knowing nothing but my name and my date of birth and my time of birth. And I just thought, what is going on here? How can this person know so much about me? And at the time, all I knew about astrology was I'm a Taurus. And I'd always kind of felt not that much of a Taurus, too. Like Taurus is always like, they love plants and they keep plants alive and they love food. And I'm like, well, I do love food, but I can't keep a plant alive. And I just a lot of it was like sort of not that accurate. It's like, well, sort of, you know, you kind of do the like, sort of.
SPEAKER_01:You're like, yeah, I like a tree.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well, and it was like they're bad at change and they're very stubborn. I probably am a little stubborn, but um, I really, I really loved travel and international travel and like all these cultures and change was a huge part of my life. And I really embraced change. So I was like, that's really weird. Well, it turns out I'm a Sagittarius rising, and Sagittarius is really all about travel and other cultures and embracing education and all these things. And um I I felt like I felt like for the first time in my life I had a lot of grace for who I was. Like it gave me permission to be like, these things aren't just random. It's kind of this karmic imprint you were born with.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right.
SPEAKER_02:And you have a mission, and being a mother is um a big part of that, but so is career. And it just was very affirming about a lot of things that were ahead. I also had um a lot of childhood trauma that I was just starting to process and go to therapy for, and that was in my chart that she told me about. And I'm like, no one knows this but my therapist and one of my siblings. Like, how does this know this? Yeah. Very, very personal stuff. And at the same time, my toddler, who was not quite two yet, one night I was taking, you know, putting her to bed and reading a story or something. And she said, Can I sing, you know, can I sing to you tonight? And I said, Yeah, of course. And so she started singing me this song about it's it's night and it's dark, and we're traveling the forest and we see the stars and we know where we are and we know where we're going. And at first you're just a mom and you're tired. So I was like, uh, that's cute, you know. And then all of a sudden something kind of just said, like, listen. And I really listened. And she was singing almost like a gospel hymnal or something about it, it was so soulful and it was not a children's song. And when she stopped, I said, Where did where did you hear that? And she said, Oh, from my other mother. And I said, Your your other mother? And I was like very conscious not to make it weird, but I was like, Oh, your your other mother? And she said, Yeah, I had a mother before you, but we used to travel at night and follow the stars, and we were crossing a river and she drowned. And I'm like, uh, that is really oddly specific for a 20-month-old or whatever, you know, like a toddler to tell me all about this other mother she had who drowned. And I said, Oh gosh, you know, okay. And she said, Yeah. And then I was, you know, and then something happened to me and I woke up and now you're my mother. And I'm like, okay, oh, okay. And I think if I hadn't at the same time overlapped that experience with getting my chart read and learning about like past life karma, that was something so foreign and bizarre to me, both from a religious upbringing that I had and a scientific research sort of mindset that I had. It really was like this Pandora's box that opened for me that I think there's a lot more going on here than I really gave credit for. And there is this overlap of yes, we have intelligence and scientific study and methodology and research, but there's also just something that is still unknown by like fact or you know, provable, but that's felt. And how does a toddler know about another mother and this song? And then sometimes she would see her other mother and she would sort of run off and then come back and say, Oh, my other mother wanted to see my Easter dress, or oh, my other mother wanted to tell me something. And I think in the past, like in my childhood, we would have been like, Oh, that's cute, imaginary friend. But it was so and I think I was just in this place of being vulnerable to being like cracked open to maybe believing that.
SPEAKER_01:And that became the path for me that really opened up evolutionary astrology because yeah, I was gonna ask you like, how do you go from being a research scientist at NASA to like that's a huge from what I would think from the outside, it's a jump.
SPEAKER_02:It is a jump, yeah. And it was a spectrum, right? So I didn't just like the next day do it. What I actually did was I kept harassing my poor astrologer for like more and more readings until finally she was like, maybe you should go to school and study this because you have a capacity and you're clearly very interested. So then it just started, I wanted to be a better parent to my kids. And kind of to overcome some of the uh the childhood trauma I had, I thought, gosh, if I could understand my kids' chart a little better, maybe I could be the kind of parent that could adapt more to um the guardrails and the light and the help that they need. So then I got into it really to kind of help be a better parent to my children. And then it started, then you know, then your sister's interested and your friend's interested. And then it just sort of went on from there to where I was like, okay, no, I really I'm gonna get certified career.
SPEAKER_01:Going back to your daughter, seeing her her other mother, that was in how did she did you ever find out like what was she seeing? Or how was she experiencing that?
SPEAKER_02:Um, no, she she will, I think it's more uh clearer audience. She she like hears it or she will dream about it. But I don't know that she ever actually saw, like, saw it. And it's hard because she was so young and I was trying to be open to it without you can feel that moment with anybody where you're probed a little too much, and then they sort of go, you know, I'm not oh wait, I'm saying something that's weird and I don't want to talk about it anymore. So I was really cognizant to not push too hard, but it's more like she hears and then has dreams. Um, yeah, it's super fascinating. Not one of my gifts, but yes.
SPEAKER_01:And so does she still have those situations like does she still feel that now or like not as much, which I kind of hate.
SPEAKER_02:She's eight now. Yeah, it's still really started to curtail around the age of five or six. Every once in a while she'll say something, but it's a lot less. But she would do things like the morning my grandfather passed away. She saw my grandfather in the house with my with my dog who had recently passed. And she was like, Oh, Bunka's here with with Betty, my dog. And I was like, Oh, okay. And then my mom called, you know, maybe an hour later and was like, Your grandfather passed away this morning. So it's like stuff like full body chills. Yeah. Yeah. So she has some kind of capacity that I feel like um I think she and I have reincarnated together a lot. And she's like a teacher for me, even though she's my child.
SPEAKER_01:I oh my gosh, I have so many questions.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I know. That's a whole other thing. Well, so what's fascinating is there's a series on Netflix that the um, I think it's the University of Virginia medical department. So again, this really fascinating place of science overlapping with spirituality, has done a bunch of research on children that have past life memories, and they've gone and been able to prove the people that they say they were existed.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
SPEAKER_02:It's like it's fascinating stuff. Yeah, that's a whole other rabbit hole you can go to. So that made me feel better too, because I was like, oh no, this is like a provable science that people are actually studying with PhDs, where children have a lot of times it's children who have like uh night trauma or nightmares that they can't explain, like crashing in a one of them was a child that had crashed in uh into the ocean in a plane. And he was able to say enough to researchers that they figured out and recovered a World War II airplane that had gone down in the Pacific theater. And it was tied to the the last person that flew. It was this pilot that this kid said that he was. I mean, it's just, it's just, it'll blow your mind. So it does, it just like kept adding to this idea that yes, we live in a tangible world and we have deadlines, and that is part of the importance of this life. But there's also other stuff that's like very cool.
SPEAKER_01:I so I mean, this is gonna be the like the first redesigning life podcast that is uh seven hours long. Right, right, right. I know it becomes a series, right?
SPEAKER_02:It's like there's like 20 more episodes, but yes.
SPEAKER_01:Um, okay, so selfishly, and listeners, just bear with me. I so I would love to hear what you saw on my chart.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Okay. So interesting. So when we look at your chart, we know you're a Capricorn son. Some people have, it's interesting. Like some people will have, you know, I'm a I'm a Virgo, but they actually have a ton of Scorpio. And I'll say the reason you get your chart read by an astrologer is they can sort of intuitively look at the really strong energies. It's not always your sun sign. I suspect that's a reason a lot of people don't believe in astrology, is because their chart is actually much more heavily dominated in a different sign that isn't just the obvious I was born May 9th, so I'm a Taurus.
SPEAKER_01:You know, then how do you know that? How do you know that?
SPEAKER_02:Um, we you can pull your chart. Anyone can actually pull their chart, but you just need to know your exact time of birth, your place of birth, and your date of birth.
SPEAKER_01:No, I know, but I'm saying, like, I know my sun is Capricorn, my moon is Pisces, I think, right? And my rising is Aquarius.
SPEAKER_02:Your yeah, your rising is Aquarius. In in evolutionary astrology, your moon is actually Leo. You have a Leo. A Leo. Yep. Um, and I think that's the difference too, is a lot of the apps will use whole house astrology, which I love apps, but if you use evolutionary astrology, it uses what's called the placidist system. And it's it's a more precise measurement of um where your planets fall. So sometimes it'll sound a little different. Okay. Right. So um, so yeah. Um, and then you know you have a stellium, obviously. I don't know what that is.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:You have a stellium. What is that? So a stellium is when three or more planets are really tightly coupled together, usually within about 10 degrees of each other. So you have a stellium in Capricorn, which tells me you're like the ultimate Capricorn, because you get all the Capricorn superpowers, which is, you know, hard worker, diligent. Like if we're gonna call someone in to get the job done, it's gonna be a Capricorn. By the way, my oldest that has her um other mother and such, she's a Capricorn. She's my ultimate Capricorn. I love her, I love Capricorn energy.
SPEAKER_01:Me too. Um not just because it's me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, it's such a good, like Capricorn is just, they're the people that get get stuff done. Yeah. Right. Like it's just that very much like, I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I'm gonna do it. So you've got all that like Capricorn superpowers. Um, but when we look at your your self, the other thing, just not to squirrel, but your chart, when you look at the wheel of your chart, if you cut it in half, so you have an upper half and a lower half, your chart is predominantly almost entirely upper half, which when I look at that before I even knew you, if I was doing a reading for you, I would say this is somebody who has a more um public calling, a leadership calling. The upper half is very visible of our chart. So if you have a lot of upper half stuff, it's here for visibility, it's here for leadership, it's here to lead and build communities. Um, it's a lot more that upper, uh, more visible, more public realm. When I see people with tons and tons of lower hemisphere, it tends to be ah, okay, this is a lifetime dedicated to healing self, healing family, healing those more like inner things that we deal with more than a very like public um or visible life, if that makes sense. Yes. Okay. So you're um so interesting with you when I look at your, there's a point on your chart and it's called the South Node. And I that's as much as you need to know. You don't need to know any more else. But if you looked at your own birth chart or if someone was interested and pulled their own birth chart, your south node is the point that in evolutionary astrology we say tells you about a past life signature. And there's some more, you know, technical mumbo jumbo that will go into the analysis. But immediately when I see your self node, it is this idea that um your self node is in Aries in the first house, and it's conjunct Saturn. And when I Aries, warrior, leadership, like action-oriented, fierce determination, right? All that kind of stuff is Aries, then it's in the first house, which Aries rules. And the first house is again leadership, um, uh, like dedication, patriotism. That's all like very first house stuff. And then yours is sitting conjunct Saturn, which is discipline, loyalty, and all this. So immediately when I see your self-note, I would say this is a lifetime where you probably literally or metaphorically like died with your boots on. It's that kind of energy. It is, there's a lot more synopsis here, but it is somebody who was in a position of leadership, somebody who had to make really difficult decisions with really limited information that impacted large groups of people. And those positions, we look up to our leaders, right? Tell us what to do. Where do we go? What should we do? They're here to save us. That is a tremendous amount of responsibility and duty and sacrifice to put on a person. And so, with that South Node signature, when I look at you, I would see somebody who was fiercely loyal to whatever this cause was that you were battling for. And that could be a political cause, it could be a literal like battlefield cause, it could be any of those things. But but at least one of these lives of yours was one where you're a very courageous, loyal person in leadership that had to lead people having incomplete information, maybe not even perfect information, and were responsible for a lot of people's livelihood, outcome, maybe even lives, right? Um and so I see then this very like leadership can be lonely, right? We look at our leaders and we think, like, oh, they have it so great and they're in this position of authority. Leadership is also very lonely. And it's hard when you're leading a group of people to make what you think is the next best decision, but you don't know for sure. And there's a anyone who's owned a business and had employees, right? Like I worry about my employees and I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, you've had those times where it's like, we got to make payroll this week or whatever, right? Or your or your kids, you have to be a leader to your kids or your community that you're building. But there's a tremendous amount of sacrifice that goes into leadership. Um, and so your past life is this um really, really prominent. Some people's south nodes are harder to put together. Yours is like uh intensely obviously pointing at somebody who either like died for a cause or took things all the way to the end for a cause that they believed in, but was responsible for large groups of people and really big decision making and felt very strongly about the purpose and the responsibility of that. Yeah. So then I see when you when you're born, right? You're born with all these Capricorn superpowers because you've you've been a leader, you've had to make tough decisions, you care a lot about fairness and and justice and the right choice and the right outcome. Um, there's also these really Virgo quantities, qualities there that are really wanting to be of service. My guess is your whole life has been a lot about wanting to be helpful, having a desire to serve, having a desire to be in service to a community. Like there's a lot of your north node is in Libra in the seventh, which just means your guiding light in this lifetime is to almost like servant leadership, to really create and craft communities that are about caring and about fairness and about beauty. And that is all kind of those superpowers that are in there. Um, but it's just sometimes too almost like a compulsion, probably in your lifetime to lead and to grow and to start things. That's such an Aries kind of, you know, Capricorn um quality. So that is what we see predominantly in, at least in your nodal signature, is a person who was a very courageous, strong leader that likely when you exited that life, exited, you know, literally with your boots on, doing doing the work and and and making things happen.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. Yeah, I feel that.
SPEAKER_02:Which then again, you know, then we tend to be born in and like what feels comfortable to us leadership, a compulsion to serve.
SPEAKER_01:But do we just bring our past lives into our current lives to the to keep it going?
SPEAKER_02:Like to keep that no, no, not necessarily. It's it's what feels comfortable because it's what's known, uh-huh. Right. Uh-huh. Like anything else. Yep. But I think the thing that we're seeing here, which is interesting, is you have your north, so your south node, that's Aries in the first, sitting directly opposite that is your is your north node, which is kind of your like calling for this life. And it's in Libra in the seventh. And what's that's saying is yes, you have these innate leadership skills. Yes, you have this um desire to serve, but it's a reminder too that in that lifetime, we all serve somebody, right? You were still probably taking orders from somebody or serving some cause or party or whatever. And so it's saying use those skills, but craft your own community. Have the autonomy to build and be in control of the message, the cause that's worth devoting your life to. Um, because when I see Aries in the first two, I almost see almost like, you know, if you're a soldier, you you follow orders. No matter how high up you go, you're sort of always answering to order. Everybody. Yeah. Right. And this, this north time, this north note is saying, yeah, Sabrina, you have this skill set, which is amazing, but you get to choose the cause. You get to build the community, you get to um create and set the pace and the culture there. You don't have to just um inherit and fight for that cause, right? And so seventh house is also um, and Libra are both about interpersonal relationships. There's a lot of beauty, um, style, calmness. Like whenever I see seventh house or Libra or Virgo, I say these are people that need beauty. Some people don't need beauty. You've been in their homes. That's not to be rude or dismissive, but some people just don't care. Like my husband, I love him. I wouldn't have to be. I'm like lazy boy, oversized recliner for real. We're doing that. No, we're not. We're gonna get rid of that. I love you.
SPEAKER_01:Um and you're speaking my language.
SPEAKER_02:You are speaking my language, you know, and I'm like, oh no, that's not gonna work for me. I cannot function and thrive in a community or in a space, a physical space that is not also beautiful.
SPEAKER_01:Same.
SPEAKER_02:I need the fresh flowers, I need the fresh plants, I want my crystals. I I I need it to be beautiful. Yeah, I saw yours. Yeah. I I need it to. It has to because that's how I feel my best. That's how I can create. That's how I can even even when I worked at NASA and was a research scientist, it needed to be beautiful. I I can't create from a void.
SPEAKER_01:Um, how did you make I'm curious? How would you make NASA beautiful? Like, how did you do that personally?
SPEAKER_02:Just my little space. Yeah. I brought in my plants, like nobody had living stuff. I'm like, I need my plants. And I had a few crystals that were more like, you know, my my ammonite, sort of like my fossilized ones that sort of weren't so obvious. I didn't have my big rose quartz tower or my amethyst, you know, but like did the other scientists look at your crystals and think that Jill, like Jill's the cuckoo one. No, I think I was already such an outcast, being, you know, probably 20 years younger than everyone else and the only girl. Like I worked in I worked in the airplane hangar. My office was attached to the airplane hanger. So there were three women in the entire building. So I was already not like, and by the way, they were lovely. I never felt outcast, but it was always like I was already so different. I think people actually almost appreciated it. Yeah. Because it was a bunch of men that are respectfully probably on the spectrum and just like, oh, you know, like they were just kind of happy there was a girl in there.
SPEAKER_01:So how do you okay? So let's go to crystals, and then I want to get back to my reading, but I want like I there's so much I think to unpack. The crystals, how do you use them in how did they connect to astrology?
SPEAKER_02:Um, you know, I started honestly, I started my four and the crystals because they were beautiful and I loved it. Because they're pretty, yeah. 100%. And I'm such a green girl. That part is Taurus. So it was like I was so attracted to green. I'm like, ooh, Malachite and wrote, you know, like all this maw saggot. And then when I started to learn about their properties, I have found those to be very helpful, actually, really helpful with my kids too. There's been multiple times when my husband has deployed and my kids will start to have nightmares. And so I did a lot of research on crystals because the energy is soothing with the right ones to put together. And I'd make these little packs of tumbled crystals and I'd put them under my daughter's pillows. And then if they had a bad dream, it was like, hold on to your crystals and you can talk to them and they'll take that energy away and you can sleep. And it actually cured my kids' nightmares when my Husband would deploy. How does that work though? Tell me how it works scientifically. Gosh, with crystals, I don't even know. I mean, to me, what it is is everything has a frequency, right? We know that from physics. Yes. And so different crystals, I believe, are created at different frequencies. And those frequencies can assist us. Anyone who's had a sound bath or worked with sulfageo frequencies or tincture bells for energy clearing, sound is a frequency that can that can permeate. And so crystals have frequencies that I believe can also permeate and help based on the qualities and also based on where we are in our life, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, wait.
SPEAKER_01:So hold on, because I love the science background. So I'm gonna I'm gonna like soak it up. So obviously I love crystals. I think they're absolutely beautiful. But like, yes, I believe everything has a frequency. It's not that I believe it's just science, but so does this pen. So but but is it this frequency is lower in the okay, right? Denser. Yep.
SPEAKER_02:And so I think because the earth creates crystals, mankind creates pencils, right? This is manufactured in a lab at a dense low frequency, whereas our crystals are created in the earth through the natural processes of like millions of years of the earth's magic. Yeah. Um, I need to go back to school to get a geology degree. That would be my name.
SPEAKER_01:Need to, because I need you to have you back. I know because I do. I'm like, okay, the I wonder, like, look, I have cell, I have them all over the house because I think they're beautiful. And but then I'm like, I really would love to understand the dumbed down version of like, why am I attracted to them? Because oh, tumble rock, whatever that you get air, like a river rock, that has a frequency to it. But why, what's the difference?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. I mean, the difference sometimes is just the fact that the ones that we can buy have been polished or shaped, and sometimes that adds to the beauty. But I mean, I call them feral crystals, and my kids pick up feral crystals all the time and we bring them home. So we have little like beautiful dishes filled with feral crystals too that maybe haven't been polished and shine, but they're like, they're beautiful, right? Same thing with feathers. I'm like a total collector of feathers. I'm like, ooh, pretty feather. Let's pick it up. Um, but yeah, I mean, I I bought a crystal shop. So like eight stars also I have a crystal shop, a retail shop, because I love crystals so much and I love the contribution that they make. And I've had experiences where even if I don't know the exact geology behind the crystal, it has impacted or made a difference in an intention that I had, whether that was protection or um celestite is what I used for my kids for good dreams and calm sleep. Um, I've used a lot of moonstone for myself as I'm entering the fun phase of periomenopause for like hormone balancing. Yes. Yay. The change. I'm trying to celebrate it. Sometimes I celebrate it. Sometimes I'm like, ugh.
SPEAKER_01:Depends on the day. So okay, wait, but go out. I'm gonna put the car in reverse because I want to go back to what you said of just the different types of astrology. Um so what in in like really just bullet points, like what are the different types and how do you know which one feels right for you to like go into?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so um Vedic astrology is primarily utilized or comes out of India. And so it has its own um properties and similarities. I think they all have a baseline that's pretty similar. It's just a little bit of changes. I don't know all the different ones specifically. Um, there's also like you can just look at astrology as a lens, but you can you can dice it differently, right? So, like whole house systems, um I think it's called side reel systems, uh placidus system, which is which evolutionary astrology. I think the whole thing though is honestly the scientists in me, experiment. Try it. Experiment, okay. Right? Like, because some people, um, some people get an evolutionary astrology reading and they're like, it's interesting, but I don't know that it's necessarily for me. That's totally fine. Um, I you know what I've gotten really into lately is um astrocartography, where your birth chart gets laid out over a global map. Yes, that blows my flipping mind. And I just had mine rod and I'm like, oh, so this is a new rabbit hole I want to go down, right?
SPEAKER_01:Like I just had um uh someone on the podcast who was uh an astro astrologist. Ask oh, is that no? What did I anyway? I can't I still couldn't say it in the podcast, but if anyone is listening, you know what you could put it in chat GPT as well. You could do you could find your map and then upload it to chat GPT and it'll kind of dumb it down for you, just an FYI.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it's fascinating. Like the the marks on there were very accurate. Um so yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_01:I love I think there's just so many. Listen, whether you're into astrology or not, I I find all these things fascinating because you know, this it can't be as simple as we think it is. And I do believe that there's more to this life. And there we are here for certain, you know, like I call it human school. We're here for certain lessons. And for me, uh I had an astrology my reading done a few years ago. Um, and there's just and I've had readings before, but this woman was so incredible that there was no way she didn't know who I was, like she didn't know anything, she didn't even have social media, and and it was so spot on. And it gave me at that point, just like you, I was in like this weird in-between funk. And it just gave me a little bit of breathing room, knowing full like I'm not crazy. This makes sense, this is where I'm going. Take a deep breath. That's right. I think it allows you to give yourself a little grace, yes, and permission. Jill, thank you so much. I uh get we I have to do a part two. I just you you're you don't even, it's not even an if and or but about it. Like you're doing it.
SPEAKER_02:I would love to anytime because we also have like big, big, massive transits, right? So this is our personalized birth chart, but we also have these huge transits. We have Pluto that just moved back into Aquarius, hasn't been there for 250 years. Uh, Neptune is moving into Aries in January, hasn't been there since the start of like the Civil War. Like we have these huge, massive transits that are happening right now that if people are feeling stuck, the astrology is starting to get a lot of forward momentum moving into 2026 too. So again, I think even if you don't believe in astrology, it's nice to kind of just know or have a general awareness because there's a chance that there's just a cosmic weather forecast happening that's contributing to the to the feeling of stuckness, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes. So Jill, Jill, her website is eightstars.co, eight-a- uh e-i-g, like obviously stars.co, C O. Um, she does readings. She also has her um free workbook that is online. Um, and she does private readings. So you could book a private reading. Um, Jill, thank you so much. If you're listening, obviously please rate and review the podcast. But also all of Jill's information will be down in the notes just in case you're on a walk. Thank you so much, Jill. Thank you.