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Episode 89: Treating Obesity as an Addiction with a Ketogenic diet

December 19, 2019 Dr. Karl Goldkamp Episode 89
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Episode 89: Treating Obesity as an Addiction with a Ketogenic diet
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Episode 89: Treating Obesity as an Addiction with a Ketogenic diet
Dec 19, 2019 Episode 89
Dr. Karl Goldkamp

A key sign of an addict is the craving for their addictive substance or need for a "fix". 


A food fix, like any drug fix, is an attempt to experience the dopamine high needed by any addict


Food addiction, more specifically, Processed Food Addiction is no different than other addictions in the sense of they are looking for a dopamine high. Come listen to how it has been established that being overweight, or obese or even heavier, is not about calories or burning off calories but helping the brain of an ‘addict’ to restore itself. The Ketogenic diet helps generate some of the necessary neurotransmitters to ‘quiet’ those screams of cravings that all substance abuse people feel. Being over weight, not even jusi obese, but that as well, is merely a side effects of a substance abuse to a  ‘drug’  called carbohydrate.


I think you will see controlling your weight is in essence...All in your head...so should be addressed as such.

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Show Notes Transcript

A key sign of an addict is the craving for their addictive substance or need for a "fix". 


A food fix, like any drug fix, is an attempt to experience the dopamine high needed by any addict


Food addiction, more specifically, Processed Food Addiction is no different than other addictions in the sense of they are looking for a dopamine high. Come listen to how it has been established that being overweight, or obese or even heavier, is not about calories or burning off calories but helping the brain of an ‘addict’ to restore itself. The Ketogenic diet helps generate some of the necessary neurotransmitters to ‘quiet’ those screams of cravings that all substance abuse people feel. Being over weight, not even jusi obese, but that as well, is merely a side effects of a substance abuse to a  ‘drug’  called carbohydrate.


I think you will see controlling your weight is in essence...All in your head...so should be addressed as such.

Buy C8Keto MCT Oil on Amazon
Our Facebook Group Keto Naturopath
Download our Free Keto Foods List
Visit our website for more podcasts, recipes, and information

Until next time, Dr. Karl


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Well, explorer, its history and evolution to today, which is that the sheer wonder the ketogenic way of eating has changed untold number of lives, unlike anything before and in case I forget to mention it, please join our Facebook group. Kato Naturopath. Hi, this is Dr Gold Camp. Welcome back to another episode of the cuter naturopath this week. I want to take a entirely different tune, a turn away from testosterone and talk about an aspect of the ketogenic diet that I think is pretty controversial. And it has to do with addiction. Okay, then. So it goes this way. If you were to actually look at people who are overweight and you could say any degree of overweight from your own sense of I needed lose excess pounds of fat to somebody who's obese and then beyond that, if you look at that as not a caloric issue, they've been consuming too much. You know, the calories in calories out model, which we generally think does does not work. I mean, it works on her old basic level. Obviously, if you study, stop eating, you'll start burning your fat, and eventually you get to a point that you either die A because you've starved to death or you've actually, um, live long enough. Do your fat supplies. So but generally speaking, if we simply say calories in calories, out, somebody wants to lose £10 of fat and will assume that they have £10 of fat to lose then and we simply say, Okay, we start subtracting the calories on a daily basis. Yes, important that will work. And that's called calorie restriction, obviously. But it's not a pleasant way to go, and there's other ways to look at that. And you slay, by the way, those who approach it in that way of calories in calories out. You simply need to work out more catcher calories and your good times a week, a month, a couple months a year or whatever, Then that gives you your equation of how much how many pounds you'll be down. Usually, they don't work long term, usually the next six months after they've stopped doing it. They tend to put the poundage backup. So in terms of and I said he just came out from the University of Bergen in Norway, and why that's interesting is because I'm an alum of the University of Bergen in Norway. I didn't graduate there. Maybe that's a technical difference. I studied there for a year and 1/2. Back in. We'll leave the dates out of Alma, but I basically emailed the departments of neuropsychology. In this particular case, it was a study of long term diet treatment programs over the last 50 years, and they went through a lot of different Sundays and saying, Basically long term or diet treatment plans, weight loss plans do not work long term. That was their conclusion. So I thought, Well, isn't that interesting? Um, and it was fun to go back and forth with them in my old school. I still speak some. No region I can get get by an embarrassing level. I'm sure so. But what's interesting about it? You take that. Let's just say that's true without debating and going line by line, of all the references that use and whip in the charts and so on, so forth would say, That's true. So why is that? What do you think that is? Why is it returned to kind of where they were before? Well, I would say looking from the outside, it means the mechanism. The reason the core reason for gaining the weight in the first place was never really addressed. Okay, so you're saying okay, smart guy would is the core for why people put on pounds when they really don't want to put on pounds. And I would say it's an addiction model. And so what do I mean by an addiction model? Going and take a few baby steps to lead up to this? She's a a moment, and by the way, I'm not really the first person to come to this particular realization. In fact, there are weight loss programs that go into this direction. Um, or you might say, weight loss is secondary to an addiction program. And that gave a certain keys. Okay, so let's go forward a little bit. So did the addiction model. I sort of let that cat out of the bag. What does that mean? What is addiction? Addiction can mean a lot of different things that basically let me see if I can give you a nice, clean definition of addiction. Addiction is basically a need to do a behavior or have some sort of substance biochemical substance in your blood. So it's either through injection or eating or breathing that you get this substance. And what is the substance we gonna do? Medicines do this. Some of the obvious addictions are Are nicotine alcohol? Uh, sex opiates, morphine, which is part of the opiates. All the narcotics, etcetera, etcetera. So you get a sense. But what is it that that does? It gives you something you're saying what gives a kind of sense of euphoria? Okay, what is that about? Let me boil this down. Is that in the mid fifties or is a really interesting experiments or research son in Miguel 1954. And this was looking for the pleasure center of the brain. You know what happens to the pleasure center of the brain? And so what they documented as they did this study that rats could push a bar. And I'm reading that rats could put your bar to have their pleasure center your pleasure center electrically stimulated where they could push your bar for food, so feel good, or he'd feel good or heat. And what they found is that's for the rats. Electric stimulation for the Pleasure Center was more rewarding than that for food. In fact, the experience was so rewarding that starving rats would ignore food in favor of the pleasure and that is stimulating his or her brain center as anything. Some rats simulated their brains more than 2000 times per hour for 24 consecutive hours. In fact, most of the rats died of starvation. Wow, says saying addiction or cravings. However you want to say it really is based on a neural chemistry, we're gonna call these neurotransmitters in which they are who break them down a little bit is why it's going to get interesting. But I'm gonna be due for a few more. A little context here. Um, we know that many serious drug addicts forget to eat and shed weight similar to the rats. And this study that I just talked about This explains why when we're getting our dopamine fix from other stuff, there you go. There's a dopamine that's one of the neurotransmitters when we're getting our dopamine fix from other sources, including the first stages of love or other enjoyable activities like dancing, singing, soulful conversation, good things, good natural things, we tend to eat less, and we're less likely to ovary. You might say the addiction is not the food as the rat study given their rats, and they're not humans. But there's a on this particular thread of a concept, as we're pretty similar. The addiction is to the dopamine high. And so what happens when there's a mechanic? When the mechanism is faulty, we become obsessed to something that's going to give us that dopamine high. So now we have is the end goal or one of the vory major influences to our sense of feeling. Good is going to be dope me. And so we're gonna look for whatever is in the environment to give us this. For some, it's drugs. For some, it's an activity. Or for some, it could be food and liquor. Be certain types of foods, as you can guess. So we've evolved that, and it goes this way. If you remember back to the interview that I did with Dr Palmer and also the interview I did with Johnny Flynn, who is focused on food addiction. Um, Dr Palmer's interview is that, you know, dopamine was the reward. Few good, because you did something that is going to increase. Is your personal survival and or survival of the species Therefore, acquiring food, killing these dangerous animals and eating those. And that's this food for the village procreation. Sex. You got a reward for that. So if you think of it. In that context, it had an evolutionary benefit. Survival benefit. You okay? That stupid me? Well, now we're in a different era in which a lot of we've now are very clever and confined things out online. So on so forth. There's lots of different things that will get our dopamine up. Most of Marley illegal for the most part. Or you have to have an excess amount of them. So when it comes down to dope, Me So here we still haven't finished with the idea of what is the addiction? Is that the problem with three? The dopamine acquiring behavior is that what you're after is was that peak in Flint that was at peak experience. You felt so good when you were in love or you feel so good when you are in love. We used to see this in the clinic by the way we were. This is now goes back 20 years when I was working for HIV patients, and I was the alternative practitioner, one of the alternative practitioners. And so you have weekly viral load numbers in their CD eight CD fours and and such, and you find that, um, with HIV if you don't know it is a virus that attacks the immune system, unlike viruses to detect other parts of the body. And so they're generally low numbers. But they're fine when one guy in particular who is in love his numbers didn't make sense. They're doing who's coming up, the kind of almost normal. And he, however thinking, Well, maybe the acupuncture is getting is superlative. And who is this guy doing the acupuncture? It wasn't totally me, by the way. Or maybe he was taking the right supplements. Or maybe he's doing kind of men. So their gate going for all these different things. And then they found out that he had met somebody and, you know, he was in love. And this is we're watching the effect of love on his immune system, secondary to his dopamine experience. Pretty cool, huh? So you can transfer the substance, make that story about a different substance. It would create a pretty similar experience. So what happens when you back away from the peak experience? It doesn't feel quite is nice. So let's change the substance to something a little more a dangerous little Mormon Evelyn ce. So let's say the latest OxyContin. Hardly the latest over the last decade or so OxyContin epidemic and all the deaths and so on. It said OxyContin, obviously, is a pain reliever. Yeah, but it makes people feel really good, so they feel really good for a while. And they have very elevated dopamine levels sustained for a number of days, if not a number of weeks. And there's where he gets to be dicey. Is that you need the make sure the acute pain is not so acute that there they can't do life. So that's the point of the he handled Zizek. Effective the opiates, Oxy con so. But when it comes time to Okay, now we've got to go back to normal life. You almost set this medication has set a new normal for them. They're used to this peak experience. And so to be less than peak is gonna leave them feeling deficient below. And so there, Then trying to fill in that gap is a back away with a lower and lower dose where they fall out of love. Who are they? Ah, cigarettes or that way to your taking fewer cigarettes. How do you feel in that? cap. You go through a physical withdrawal, so that's an addiction. You go through a physical withdrawal, which you have been become dependent upon this thing. Not all addictions have to do with dependence, and certainly not all dependents have to do with addiction. That's right out of Wikipedia, by the way, For if you look under addiction, which is good to know. So the problem is about dopamine and what we find that in looking at the brains of addicts. So now Nora Volkoff, we she's been mentioned in the number of the podcast, which they start with Chris Palmer and a few others and ideally, be great to talk to her. She'd been on 60 Minutes and on others. And so when she came out of med school, the, um not the cat scan on Lee but Thea Pet scan, which is the glucose uptake of the brain to find out what part of the brain is active during different activities. Well, they went and they were just scan happy. There was pet scan happy and they took every condition and they said, Let's do a pet scan of this guy and that guy in this school that that woman and and sort of get a demographic of the brain on a per condition basis. And so, when she noticed, was there is a profile. There's a brain profile of an addicted brain. So what, then Victor Brain shows that it can't create adequate CE amount of dopamine? It. So if you took out looked at a normal brain, you'd say there's quote unquote normal amounts of dopamine in the brain to be color coded. Then you looked at the various addicts. Regardless of what they're addicted to, you can say attic cocaine addict, nicotine addicts, you know, so they would differentiate by what that substance was, but they had a similarity, and that is they couldn't get enough dopamine. So there are always in the deficient mode of I need More Togami. I'm not thinking anymore. Don't mean anything any more cigarettes and need more OxyContin or they need more cocaine where they need more sex or be nice. If they felt they needed more soulful conversations, that would be a nice way to go. But anyway, so they're in this deficit. So what happens in the personality that develops around this addiction is it's about getting excited, getting a craving for that thing you're after. And when you see if you're an ex smoker or a smoker, who's who are maybe just addicted smoker and you don't have any cigarettes and I have a pack of cigarettes, you just seeing that pack of cigarettes, regardless of whether you think you're going to get it or not, is that your dopamine goes up so your dopamine goes up in anticipation of the thing that's gonna make you feel good so that I give you the cigarettes and guess what your dopamine and actually goes down upon receiving and using that thing. So it's about the anticipation of not the acquisition of is really the profile of what an addict is in this context that we're talking about right now. Okay, well, that's pretty interesting. So now you see the different brain scans and we look over and we find that Nora Volkoff, because wait a minute, the brain scans of a beast people, people that are heavily overweight. I'm gonna use the word obesity. It's just easy to use that one word so you can save people who are heavily overweight. Obesity is a B. M. I basal metabolic rate being bees metabolic index referenced number. So what to say for all people who either feel the very overweight, who are very overweight will say obesity, whether it's morbid, obesity or not. And she noticed that those brains pet scans look a lot like the addicts Graves can. Well, then you're asked the question. If that's the case, let's say they're equal. It's just another brain you put into that you put into that category of addictive brains of the morphine, me, OxyContin, that nicotine, the whatever it is, all these different things. And you say you know this prayed, this will be sprayed. Profile fits right in there. Therefore, what is this thing that is driving there? Need, you know, what is that substance that gave him such a pleasurable benefit? What was the thing that if they got it would drive up their dope? Me So you could say it was food. Food's a little bit too, General. If you follow them around, it comes out to let me introduce you to a Let me introduce you to a drug called carbohydrate. So this is basically the new concept, a fairly new concept. The carbohydrates are very addictive carbohydrates, as we've talked about before, covers a lot of territory. It's the carbohydrate and lettuce. Is that gonna be equal to the carbohydrates and 20 that's gonna be equal to the carbohydrates and dairy or carbohydrates and your captain crunch cereal your or your carbohydrates in your whole grain bread or your race? I would say, for the most part, yes, there's some that are what they call more complex and so on so forth of carbohydrates in general. Stimulate bye by creating your blood glucose to go up. And it's a It's a sugar high, so literally it's a sugar high glucose, high glucose, either then drives in insulin Hi syndrome and drives a glucose hypo glucose through down include coz happily, I see Mia. So anyway, the point is, if you start to look at carbohydrates as a kind of drug, it is a drug. Now we have from the brain down. That is the same response. Then wouldn't it make sense that you should set up a weight loss program treatment center to be based along a an addiction program? So a lot of dish in programs air called detox centers, he went into detox. She went into detox. That's an okay reference, but I find that roller general, you know, it's you say, So what do they do that then there's in. It's 1000 different ways, but it comes down to this one. Is that I a center, an addiction treatment center. So whether whether it's the 12 step for the Al Anon or all these others, they're still trying to do the same thing. They're trying to keep you off that substance long enough so that this is just by you understanding, right? You sit in a room, a basement of some church, and there's a big circle of chairs and you go around and you talk about your week. And as Joan, if one would say those mirror neurons, it's important be sitting in seeing other people trying to raise up the quality of their life, trying to step away from that substance that you all have in common, whether it's alcohol or certainly narcotics or something else, but that visual ing seeing other people doing this reinforces you by your visual cortex is in the back. You bring to say, you know we're on the right track and it starts to let go of the need. So there really is a neurotransmitter change kind of a down regulation, if you will, the need starts to disappear, some will say, and especially you hear this and regard guards to alcohol. Well, this prison's a dry drunk, hasn't had anything to drink for 20 or 30 years, and so they've already had whatever changes gonna take place. But they still have that desire. So part of the things you need to do is a step away from the places that served that substance, or you experience those particular unhealthy. Don't meet highs, so you'll and that usually takes about 21 days. That's why you see AH treatment center is about 30 days and covers the 21 days. Those initial changes, which is a big change, the to the triggers trigger could be a location. Could be a person could be a thing. Whatever those triggers were for that person, those triggers will be less likely, uh, less influential. So that's part of the things that it was simply to remove them from the context. That's why you go away someplace. They also give them good diets. And so on so forth. So back to the theme of so all these addicts What if you and all these attics had any comment? But well, now, if you took the carbohydrate addicts so the wing of this bake great big complex were looking at and we have a wing of carbohydrate addicts and what else is going on? So it's not so much we're going to say you can't have carbohydrates. I mean, you could have carbohydrates, but we're now gonna pretend we have a brain scan mechanism, a pet scan mechanism that can easily be checked on a daily basis to see how people were doing that the carbohydrates, the glucose that was produced in the subsequent changes in the body. Neurologically speaking, they're neurotransmitters of driving a productive anywhere. See how well that's going to change a little bit and that your body is not going to need is much took me. We're hoping, and that generally takes care of things. So dropping back the amount of carbohydrates, changing the kind of carbohydrates Ideally, you could even go to none, but certainly moving away from the refined do the complex through the fresh vegetables, that kind of thing you're heading in that direction so far, better place to go and it's a step by step sort of modifying your drug, if you will. That's a little bit like saying you're giving cigarettes with less nicotine overtime so they still have a cigarette, but they have less nicotine, and we're going to be the assumption that nicotine is Theoden active substance and cigarettes for this conversation. Okay, so they have that going on. But the part that's missing, generally speaking for dealing with Carvajal IX carbohydrate people who are addicted to carbohydrates is that we don't look at neurotransmitter. So yes, look at dopa. Me? Yes, look at first dropping their required amount of dopamine that they had previously got themselves to believe they needed every day by eating a lot of carbohydrates, just like a drug addict needed a lot of drugs just to keep his high high high. So now we're dropping that down. They don't need that high, high high anymore, but so we're getting by and less and less than that. But we can also change. Hey, sit so people don't have to feel the opposite of dopamine to be a dopamine. Low is diseases like Parkinson's. So Parkinson's actually is a disease in which they inherently produced less and less parking title less and less stupid me. And they have rigidity. They have, ah, lot of interesting, um, decline, if you will. Interesting from the perspective of just serving, UH, that is strictly due to dope may. So the opposite of being truly don't mean deficient in one's life. Well below normal is to be Parkinson's patient. However, one can get, um, I wanted to follow that theme for a second on Parkinson's patients. They have some new sort of research in the last five or 10 years that looked at well, do Parkinson's patients ever become addicted to something given their medications because their medications or about keeping their dopamine levels up sometimes too high? And there are studies that show that in Parkinson's, patients that have had sustained elevated dopamine do their medications, they have become addicted to and gambling addiction. So you had these people that we're actually almost introverted, generally speaking most of life before their Parkinson's, but just had sort of a quieter life. Suddenly they're out there being gambling, addicted, and I think a few other addictions as well, so it can happen. And it does happen around a dope. Me. Okay, but what else could we D'oh? Well, the idea of the ketogenic guy, Why would that fit in here? But one is, You could say we were saying low carb. So they're having low carb, so they're making, uh, less glucose. So that's going to eventually sort of stabilized with time, we hope. Right, So the insulin will come down and glucose will kind of be a boring flat line for a while, for the most part, because we've changed their diet and we haven't changed. I counting calories. We changed their diet on saying, restricting on a per person basis how much carbohydrates they should have and a, uh, day. And so for that, we can fool around with those continual glucose monitors are pretty interesting. And, um so that's what we're doing so far. And that would help produce perhaps, maybe some key tones. But we have to add in the fats in here we find if you give something like CH associate, we've talked about that. That's a saturated fat that quickly it could be converted into key towns within 15 minutes. Now, you have key tones. Help stop the jitters of Parkinson's. That was an interesting So it's not dope means so much. It's producing key tones. So what? Let's think that through well, we know the key tones helped produce gather gamma amino benzo accounts. It's so Gabba gabba. Is this a neurotransmitter that makes it really feel good? Is there tranquilized out? They're on the middle of a yoga floor by themselves, just quietly meditating more of a meditation than it is yoga. Just meditating, vory blissed out. Whatever the images of you floating on a raft in the sun Hana Lake. Maybe that's your gavel, please, to go. But that's what gamma is. So Gaba is the they call it a inhibitor. It's the opposite exciter, so inhibitors cut back on the excitation, so it is the opposite of glutamate. So glutamate. Think of glutamine, which is step away. But glutamate, which is in the brain and in the body glutamate, is excited. Torrey, and they find it. For instance, certain foods stimulate a lot of excitation. It's a lot of monosodium glutamate, for instance, tends to just rattle people's brains and get some all wired, just like eyes buzzy and it how it varies. But they're all hyper extent that hyper excitable, not quite the life of the party, kind of a wired life of the party kind of stereotype. So with the person that has too much glutamate, they could be balanced by GABA, and that's basically the point of it. How do you kind of relax and you chill out, chill out with Gabba, you wake up with glutamate. You think of the extreme of GABA is a coma. The extreme of glutamate is a seizure. So that's why the ketogenic diet. It helps produce gabba, which helps come down glutamate or balances. That ratio tends to decrease, you know, epileptic seizures both in Children and adults across the board. So that's why that works. You simply now have supported one side of the equation. So what is that to do? A dope mate? Well, in in the in the part of an attic, when they're not getting when they're euphoric there also producing gather, they're calm. They're in love, remember? Right? They're absolutely love. When you calm your love, your creative, you're all these fun things and you're feeling good about yourself. So life is good. The world is good, you're good. Well, Gabby doesn't produce dopamine, but it will calm down the deficiency states where we talked about the deficiency states. When the addict who ever has to go out and get some more hasn't we'll get that fixed? Has to feel better. They feel terrible. Well, Gabby can step in there as a related neurotransmitter and calm you down, so at least you can be kind of a more thoughtful person. So let me jump a little too soon. My background. When I worked for Oh, I guess it was nearly a year in Seattle. It was part of getting a special certification for acupuncture called Detox. Acupuncture, which simply met you, basically is a regular. He gave here points, and he gave some face points. Premier Li, the one between the eyebrows called income. And there's an ear points, and you went around a circle from four o'clock nine o'clock in the morning of all these people that had to come in from the drug courts that they hadn't seen. So they had to come in and get D tax acupuncture. They sat with the needles in their ears and on their face for about ah, half hour. Then they get up in, took their needles out. So what did that do? What that did this is now in biochemical terms, is not in traditional Chinese medical terms is that it increased their gather, increase their gabba, And so even though they were deficient, and dopamine, where the dopamine they wanted to get their dopamine fix this mitigated. This made their drive to get their dopamine fixed less. They could live with the deficiency while their body was learning to compensate. To live with a lower level than there, you fork high levels were so they would go through that, and that was, ah required treatment for them in lieu of going to jail for being caught with drugs. So that's what that was. That's where GABA came in. So there's a lot of ways you can Gabba size yourself, made that word up so Mr Acupuncture, but that's you're getting when you come to feel that list part out. That's about Grandma. So the idea of if you took obesity a person heavily overweight or yourself and treated yourself as an addict to carbohydrates, the questions you would be saying to yourself is. What is the substance I've already given you that answers carbohydrates First you would. The first baby baby baby step would be making your quality of carbohydrates calling more natural. So you'd be doing organic salads and you wouldn't be doing serials and you wouldn't be doing whole wheat bread you and well, it wouldn't be doing white bread. You wouldn't be doing bread at all. You wouldn't be doing rice and also are now moving way over there. Eventually, you might even you could even give up all carbohydrates. There's no such thing as essential carbohydrates. I'll leave. That is another topic and issue. You know, it's not an essential thing to look at that, but dropping the amount of carbs, which is really saying we're dropping the level. Blood sugar are average normal, daily. Sustainable blood sugar is gonna be lower than it's ever been before. Hunter bring the basis shooting for the seventies, as opposed to something was in the hundreds and twenties. You nearly Dybek there'll be another thing. If you look a diabetes is an addiction as well. Okay, what else would you do? Well, you'd make sure these people were in ketosis Logan called nutritional Key Tuck sits on a regular basis that would give them out a little bit meditative, more thoughtfulness about their existence. And this is how we describe that kind of acupuncture. Is that Why was it 1/2 hour a day, five days a week for X number of months? Was it helpful to these people? Is because I didn't know enough about GABA or dopamine at that point to explain it that way. But it was it. It gave them a break from their cravings. Do you think about their behavior and what we're really some of the best choices? They would benefit them the most. You know so little consciousness. Some people could say that that was, well, there's no verbal exchange, right? So there wasn't any cognitive therapy here. But being aware of one's choices, it was called Cognitive therapy. You even now are aware, and that's also part of your. When you go to a detox, you have the the daily counseling. If you think about it, has to do with visual visual mirror neuron, seeing other people in the room. That's a benefit there, too. But that cognitive part being aware that It's not just about calories. You're eating the calories you eat. Things just happen to be part of the package of that drugs, right? So you can say Well, Street's jug Nicotine Nicotine doesn't have calories with it. It's independent from calories. Okay, you smoke. It has other things that come with it potentially bad for well, the other things that come with it are the tar and all the chemicals that are in the cigarettes and they're back for you. And they will. Cardiovascular and incidence of cancer, for sure So but it doesn't have calories. Carbohydrates our great to come with calories today increase your blood sugar. They will make you fat over time, which we know how that works up with glucose up with the insulin Stuart as fat. So when you look at cash, what would be some of the other things that it carbo holic would think about? Is that what is? Maybe they should join a group of other people trying to eat fewer carbohydrates, you know, and you measure. That was in a grand per day. So there's a little discipline around that you can track yourself as in happy. But for the most part you're just trying to back away from that substance. You know, you're you're not gonna give alcohol to an alcoholic. You're gonna say no, we're not doing alcohol. We're gonna have life work without alcohol. Now we can say we're gonna do life with minimal carbohydrates or maybe none at all. So what is that said in place? Well, we have to think about Fats with Think about Fats entered a and certainly some proteins. Now the fat start kicking in more key tones. The key tones start making mortgage. ABBA the Gabba gives us in the more thoughtfulness about our life a little more, which they used to say novelty seeking behavior. It's the sign of an addict probably seeking behavior Musical. Uh, adrenaline junkies. Another way of saying those air. It's a highly addictive type personality. So that would settle them down, make them more thoughtful, say gosh, you're not so much you not gonna eat that bun with that hot dog. You're basically not gonna have that drug anymore. And you might think about adding sze fats into your diets. A sort of treat your situation as an addiction. So what else could you do well, basically that would open the door to other exercises. So, yes, meditation would be a great thing to do. He considered meditation as a GABA producing exercise, and now you go gets excellent. It's not Nessel a trip treating the dopamine, but it's allowing you to co exist with a lower level don't mean and not mind it so much, so that's a big deal. So stepping away from the idea, count calories and go work your butt off in a gym. There's benefits, you know, as we've talked about another podcast of working out resistance training, but it certainly doesn't take a lot of time. If I do 1/2 hour twice week, that's that's a lot hard. I don't look forward to it because it's hurts, meaning it's uncomfortable. That's so much it hurts. I guess so. But now you're you're in a place that you see better choices. You're not just reacting and you're treating the chemicals in your brain isn't impressive. We're all different and we all know that for some will be very efficient way of treating this way, and others may be less so, but having this context to bring you to thoughtfulness and being aware that it's not just about calories. So let's go back to the guy in love is like, Do I go up to the guy and love who hasn't eaten for a couple days? But he drinks is water and so on, so forth. And, you know, you haven't eaten in a couple days. Aren't you hungry? So I'm doing great. Thank you for asking, but I'm doing great. Okay? I'm glad you're doing great. Why doesn't he start? Why doesn't he feel he's starving? Where is whereas If I took somebody that was wanted to lose weight and say, Guess what? We're not gonna eat for three days. They're gonna go. That's gonna hurt. I don't want to not eat. Three days is being the sole way of losing weight. So now when people actually and I see this a lot people coming in to lose weight and whether they're with me or not with me, they go, I want to go right to fasting. That's an addicts way of entering into weight loss. And that's a sure way to not do anything constructive. Long term. Yes, they will lose weight, probably go too far, and might even get a semi serious issues cardiovascular, lee, electrolytes and so on, so forth because they're just gonna do it. It's all about discipline for them, and that's a complete wrong direction. So if you could take a kinder way around the side and get up your Gabba, dropping your carbs and getting a pure fats for the most part, you know, keeping your protein serve all we've been through that before. That's gonna make a gentler way for you to persist long term. So you don't want to say I've lost £80 then a year later I gained back 100. What's the point when we look at taking the substance away and giving you other substances that are a little healthier for you so you you can drop the need of this substance called carbohydrate? So I hope that's helped you To some extent. I think it's a really important issue. So let's say now you're walking around town. You see, obviously some heavy people. We have plenty of heavy people to see, and I would ask you to think about two things. Here's an image, so I'll leave you with if you think about the recent opioid epidemic, which a lot of people have died from overdoses. I think it was control, neck and try. It was contrived. It was a real thing that happened. But it was about the drug companies, and one family in particular won't get into it. But it's been nationwide, and that didn't exist 30 or 40 years ago. Now I want you to superimpose the obesity incidents on a per state level. You know, 40% for West Virginia, 40% from Mississippi. The and considering 30 years ago is about 5% 1985. It's about 30 years ago. 30 years was 5% so it's been a pretty hand in hand. Pretty comparable diagram in terms of to addictions. Solis Treat Obesity Being Overweight How you can speak to yourself as maybe you're addicted, something that if you bring a little consciousness, too, let's just worry about getting a little more gab in your life, whether you want to go meditate over it. Whether you want to go take, um, ch. Change your diet to drop your carbs. Increase your fats low carb, high fat. You will get there and you'll find that's the most sustainable way on a very sort of limited way. We're looking at life in general in terms of dropping weight is like That's a more sustainable way. So to that layer, this is, in essence, this is why how I think. And this is how I work with men who are overweight, changes to other you know, to women as well. But if we look at that as the heart of it, it's an important part of it, too, that would look at nutritional deficiencies. So if you could take any addict and say, Gus, you know, they were deficient in two or three vitamins who saw both in their blood or through special testing called intracellular testing, and we made sure we got rid of treated their nutritional deficiencies. How do you think they'd feel? They feel even better. They may not come back to feel like they're you forking euphorically in love all the time, but they will feel more comfortable to back away and let go that substance that they demanded to have in their life the whole time. So it's pretty amazing. So that's my thought. Think of those addiction maps in the United States over time and think about carbohydrate as an addictive substance and how you can change that. So when you go to reach into your fridge and get the ice cream or whatever else you reach for or the potato chips and so on so forth, here's the question I would leave with you. Are you trying to convince yourself I deserve something? Now? I deserve something good. That's actually the way an addict thinks. Why don't you give yourself something that is high fat, low carb? Ah, Or better yet, you know, if you're really not hungry bone broth or something like that, your your taste will change over time to say, that was a really neat thing I had. So you're actually getting a fix when you reach into the refrigerator for those things, wherever you go for that kind of for those carbs. Okay, so if you don't get mad at me, I hope it was a useful thought to think about. Let's think about weight gain differently, and therefore, let's treat it like an addiction, and we may come up with a different treatment way you would treat yourselves or others would treat you okay on that Good talking to you talk to you next week. Hi, this is Dr Gold Camp. I just wanted to encourage you to send in your questions too. Dr Gold, Kampuchea naturopath dot com Many of you have and so what I've done with these questions that gotten back to mostly people I email But some of the questions that were so good and if they're overlapping to other questions, I would combine them and try to put that into the topic of a podcast either via one of the micro topics that are covered in an interview. As you know, we cover a lot of topics and any given interview or some of my own sort of reporting, if you will, on some of these issues. So please keep the questions coming. Feel free to send in an email and I will get back to you. One thing I want to say. A number of questions have come in in which I've given this answer and the email didn't work. So just make sure that you're receiving at the same email that you sent it in, and I think that might have been the difficulty so ill afford to your questions. I just wanted to make sure that you knew that I'm open to answer your questions. And I think this world of Kato is not just black and white. You know, it's nice that it's simple, but it's not simple for some. I'm really trying to, you know, go down as anybody, any of you who have listened to all my podcast. We started way back when history and evolution, epilepsy and so on, so forth, you know, Now we're seeing some tremendous overlap in various mental disorders, schizophrenia or neurological disorders that are not just epilepsy and also just for people and losing weight. It's sometimes pretty complicated for them to engage in Cato, and so they need some help. And so that's the whole point of these. That's what I think I'm doing is exploring the world of why are there other factors? So in exploring some of those other factors, we've covered addiction. We've covered hormones, have covered nutritional deficiencies, we've covered certain metabolic lab results, and we'll go further. We'll even get Theo moron, genome and aspect. So these are all just contributions that make for an obstacle for some people to engage easily in the ketogenic diet this my belief and these are things that I've discovered. And I think other people have discovered some of these things but not ever put them together. So stayed listening. Send in your questions and I will definitely get back to you.