Episode 90: Mild Cognitive Impairment (MCI) : 3 words you never want to hear.

Most of us have some idea what dementia is. Though we toss the word ‘demented’ around as a put down, Dementia, and Alzheimers experienced up close is difficult to witness. In part why it is so difficult to watch others go through the decline is because much of it can be avoided entirely by adopting a Low Carb High Fat Ketogenic diet. If there was one specific condition that is most improved by ketones, this would be it. In fact, unlike other conditions that can be improved by a ketogenic diet, taking ketones directly for Alzheimers or dementia has become a gold mind for certain companies that are now in business of creating them. The market for both LCHF Ketogenic diet and for ketones is based on two truths, the rate of Alzheimers is at an all time high and will just increase, and Mild Cognitive Impairment is happening at a younger and younger age. Both demographics can be addressed fairly easily. Listen in to hear how we do that.
Sweethearts Forever. Then Came Alzheimer’s, Murder and Suicide.“They were absolutely soul mates.” 12-30-2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/29/nyregion/alzheimers-murder-suicide.html?te=1&nl=morning-briefing&emc=edit_NN_p_20191230&section=longRead?campaign_id=9&instance_id=14852&segment_id=19935&user_id=8bf2db4cafbf95d4ce39e46957ce6942&regi_id=73838898ion=longRead#commentsContainerDr.
Stephen Cunnane - April 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiEY4wligpc&feature=youtu.be
Dr. Cunnane 2016-7Can Ketones Help Rescue Brain Fuel Supply in Later Life? Implications for Cognitive Health during Aging and the Treatment of Alzheimer’s Disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4937039/
conclusion:Ketones are the brain’s main alternative fuel to glucose and brain ketone uptake is still normal in MCI and in early AD, which would help explain why ketogenic interventions improve some cognitive outcomes in MCI and AD. We suggest that the brain energy deficit needs to be overcome in order to successfully develop more effective therapeutics for AD. At present, oral ketogenic supplements are the most promising means of achieving this goal.
A ketogenic drink improves brain energy and some measures of cognition in mild cognitive impairment https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332575159_A_ketogenic_drink_improves_brain_energy_and_some_measures_of_cognition_in_mild_cognitive_impairment
Emulsification Increases the Acute Ketogenic Effect and Bioavailability of Medium-Chain Triglycerides in Humans: Protein, Carbohydrate, and Fat Metabolism. 7-2017
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29955713
Conclusions: Emulsification increased the ketogenic effect and decreased side effects in a dose-dependent manner for single doses of MCTs ≤30 g under matching conditions. Further investigation is needed to establish whether emulsification could sustain ketogenesis and minimize side effects and therefore be used as a treatment to change brain ketone availability over a prolonged period of time.

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Hi, This is Dr Karl Gold Camp. If you're interested in learning about the ketogenic diet like I was to save my own life, then this is probably the podcast for you. Eight years ago, I knew nothing about it. Six years ago, it saved my life. Three years ago, I started researching and talking with some of the authorities in the field and attending medical conferences about this. To understand why and how Kato so dramatically changed my my wife, studios lives. The first of his podcast is to share our journey of discovery with you and understanding how Kato is so effective improving so many different conditions from obesity, epilepsy, diabetes, infertility, M s, Alzheimer's heart disease, a name a few. So take a step away from all the hype you've probably heard and roll up your sleeves with me and join me weekly to explore this living miracle. Then anyone can access. We'll talk science. We'll talk food. Well, explorer, its history and evolution to today, which is that the sheer wonder the ketogenic way of eating has changed untold number of lives, unlike anything before and in case I forget to mention it, please join our Facebook group Kato Naturopath. All right, this is Dr Gold Camp and welcome back to another episode, the Keeter Naturopath. Today I'd like to talk about something that we probably all think about at one time or another. And it's certainly not about vanity, though it's maybe partially related to that. It's about dementia. As a big topic, it's about Alzheimer's. Secondarily, Alzheimer's is, you know, is a subset of dementia. Slightly special case. I'm not gonna go into how they differentiate from each other. But what I'd like to cover, then why I'd like to cover this is it's kind of more of a coincidence. I haven't been working with some people with their mother on this particular issue and seeing what we could do relative to low carb, high fat, ketogenic diet that in combination with today in The New York Times today being Monday, December 30th and the article is, it's Ah, heartbreaker, actually, and uh, the title is is brace yourself for this, by the way, sweethearts forever. Then came Alzheimer's murder and suicide. They're absolutely soul mates, so I'll give you the skinny on that in a second. But you can find that article online and I'll put a link to it in the link part of our podcast. But some of the comments that have come after this are pretty tender as well. So, for instance, the 1st 1 This is a tragic story. It goes on. It talks about European countries, Switzerland, Netherlands and the right to die. That's not where I would have gone relative to this particular story. Another person said. I do not cry often after reading New York Times article. I did this time and this person had a lot of people agreeing with her in what this was was a gradual decline of the mother and the family on these two have been married a long time and where each other sweets are sweethearts, any it came to a point that it was just too much. But in the story it showed about the decline of the forgetting things initially and not remembering how to then do something like for her. It was crashing or certainly driving, and so the world became kind of constricted and then forgetting people's faces and so on. So that's pretty much a story that we've not her specifically not heard something as tragic this. Maybe, but we in the back reminds almost regardless of age. Certainly the forties onward. We hear about this. Let me switch to a slightly more academic perspective, and that is from here. I went to you know, what are the statistics and dementia? Another horrible but basically the rates. Let me just read this one from you. It says Dementia statistics, and it's from Alzheimer's Disease International. So it goes. Some one in the world develops dementia every three seconds. There were an estimated We'll call it 50 million people living worldwide with dementia in 2015. This number will almost double every 20 years, reaching 75 million by 2030 and 131 million by 2050 now. Both of those dates I think I'll be around for. So that's hard to believe. And there's a graph here basically saying the areas of fastest increase and total increase will be the poorer countries used to be called the Third World, and so that would be south to sage Southeast Asia, parts of Central Europe and even Africa. And so it's huge. It's It's such an uncomfortable topic to talk about because if We don't know somebody who has Alzheimer's or dementia. We fear in ourselves. To some extent, some people look up for the gene to see if they have the gene, and therefore are they predisposed. I'm gonna get to a positive point and all this, By the way, I'm just sort of layering some minor minor piece of information. I think it's important to have this conversation so we don't just spout off on all this. So you have. The rate of increase is huge. Um, it will increase a lot of the United States and in the West, but mostly in the lesser developed countries and the cost of care. Usually what that means is you pay for a caretaker or that somebody in the immediate family becomes a caretaker. So you're pulling them out of their own social network. You're pulling them out of their own financial economy. And so there's there's a tug. It's it's just it's just not an incidence of morbidity. As they say, it's connected to a lot. It's very family connected, so there's that setting, and I want to go to one other place to sort of set this. Add to this story before I get into things and I'll add Thio, which I think would be helpful. And that is when we lived on Cape Cod for about five or six years and had visited it for many years before. Lucky enough to know people there is that I got to see a speaker and this person's name was and is Greg O'Brien. He used to be a reporter for the, uh it was a Cape Cod No, to keep got times. Anyways, we're one of the two papers that are out there, and he has a family history of Alzheimer's. And so he would. He's a clever guy and he would write. He had a book out before it's called Dispatches from Ploo Toe and the Pluto's. That he was referring to that, besides this distant planet, was that he was so deep down in a story so far away that he was on Ploo toe, you know, to get this story and he'd bring it back to the paper. So he was a dispatches from Ploo toe Will his use of the word ploo toe changed as he's become older, he's now a man it looks to be in his mid fifties, perhaps sixties, and his plutonium now is really to be out there. I kind of lost in space so that kind of PLOO toe in terms of diminished mental capacity. So he writes from that perspective. Hey, here's my family history. I've seen it, but it's also affecting me. I can tell you how it's affecting me. So he's sort of a living proof. If you need to watch somebody gradually express the symptomology of dementia more and more and more specifically in his case, it is Alzheimer's. He's the one, so he goes around and gives talks. I saw his talk there, and his talk was was pretty moving. I mean, when you when you realized he's talking about himself and it's his situation in which he doesn't recognize his wife. Sometimes he talked about Glen Campbell, Glenn camels since past Glen Campbell also had Alzheimer's, and Greg O'Brien would talk about something conversations you had with Camel about some of these hallucinations of either, you know, bats in the room, Mr Bugs crawling down the wall. So is pretty horrific to listen to this. And so I listened and already, of course, was a room full of very sympathetic, primarily older people, which I'm not part of that group. And I said So have you thought about our looked into or heard of Alzheimer's and dementia as being a diabetes type three type three diabetes? And he was No, I haven't and I was sort of expressing it, but I got these cold stares from the rest of the room was Don't talk about this. We're talking about this person's feelings and this person's experience to make this into a medically academic conversation. So I felt actually, I thought I was gonna have something to add. But I quickly sort of smiled and didn't say anything because that clearly was inappropriate by my perception at the time. So now I'm going to switch over to YouTube and give you two slices of what Greg O'Brien's working on now, which I do find fascinating, and I'll get back to my dementia, Alzheimer's type three diabetes and what you can do about it. And I think it's very important for you to pay attention to what you can do about it, as you or somebody in your family are going to need you to pipe up about this and I think there's plenty of things to address the diminished faculties of one's brain. Okay, so let me just pause for a second. Get this lined up. We're getting tricky. I know. Okay, here we go. This is back from May of 2015. I had a front row seat for my grandfather's death on Alzheimer's, and I was the family caregiver for my mother, and I was there when she died. And, um, people have a misperception of the stereotypes of Alzheimer's. They think it's the end stage when you're in the hospital and you're you're two months away from dying. There are millions of people walking around like me. You just saw the movie still Alice Alice Howland of the fictional character, But but but But she's wholly accurate. She's a professor at Harvard and and they're trying to struggle through life. In my case, 60% of my short term memory can be gone in 30 seconds. There times when I don't recognize familiar people, including my wife, on two occasions there times when I don't recognize where I am, I pick the phone up and I don't remember how to dial and get so angry I throw it across the room where in the summertime should summer ever come again? I picked my lawn sprinkler up and not know what it does, or I go into tremendous rage. And then there that what people call the misperceptions, which of the hallucinations seeing things that aren't there. And it's very difficult to talk about it cause I decided to strip myself naked. I was there with my mother when she died, and and I said, You know what? This is going to stop. We're going to start talking about this in more personal terms. Ah, As a journalist, um, I thought I had no choice. It was, You know, I've covered a lot of big stories in my life, and yet this was the biggest story. Ah, I may write about Let me ask you about how you deal with those moments of off centeredness that that phrase doesn't do it justice, but the sort of moments you were talking about a minute ago, if you say, pick up a phone and can't remember how to dial it, or if you happen to wake up next to your wife and for a moment you can't play sir, is your wife. How do you respond in the moment you respond in the moment and anger because there's something inside you that tells you you should know better and you can't get at it. And you're angry because you should know better and you don't know what else to do but to strike out in rage. And sometimes you cry and it's a total loss of I wanted to stop there on that and because I want Oh, but I'm gonna give you another piece of it as well. Here we go. This is what it's grown into, and I think it's It's an amazing perspective to have. As you say, he is talking about it more personal terms as the victim of and I use that word in quotes. Here's where he's turned it, too. I'm Greg O'Brien. I'm still Alice without the dress. Five years ago, I was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's after the disease stole my grandfather, my uncle, my mother. And now it's coming for May. Alzheimer's is like having a sliver of your brain shaved every day. It is a death in slow motion in the movie. Still, Alice Juliana more does an incredible job showing what it's like to live with Alzheimer's. She is worthy of an Oscar in her portrayal of the fictional Alice Howland, Ah, Harvard professor dealing with Alzheimer's. But for millions of us, with this disease, there is no script. The scene never ends. The pain and devastation never stops. But it doesn't have to be this way. Researchers say We can find a cure for Alzheimer's in a decade. What our government won't fund the necessary research. That won't change unless you stand up today. So okay, so now you know what? He's up Thio. I really appreciate his perspective. So now, instead of waiting for the government to go forward with this, which I think would be great if the government knew if the government actually looked at this situation, this particular condition call it dementia collectively and said, we really have to come down and improve plan here. It's not that they're not working on that, but I don't think they're taking it seriously. And I think there's many options out there that are simple enough to implement with tremendous, tremendous benefits. Is it a reversal? I don't think so, but there are things that are available. The one canoe that have to do with low carb, high fat diet, of course. Okay, And that's not what's being approached here. And, unfortunately, waiting for the government to do something and to make a movement for this. I think that obviously, is something that has to happen concurrent with it in real time with helping real people live their lives now. Otherwise, um, were skipping a generation and hoping something will improve for the next generation. So what is all this and what can one do? There's plenty of resource is out there, and I would suggest that you, in the very least you could see the movie still Alice. But that will just help you paint a more horrific picture of a decline of a woman, which is a client of any people that have that same story. But there's books out there in Alzheimer's. Now you have what they call the breasts in protocol, which is a doctor from U. C L. A. That put together a protocol. It's it's not. A lot of numbers of people have gone through there, huh? So it's It's not a large population of people that he's reversed things with and he has claimed reversal of a few. But there are great benefits. There is what I'm saying, and so we're gonna talk about some of those aspects. And before the precedent, precedent protocol quote unquote came out. And there's a number of studies, so you could look at that and pub mitt or or Google uh, Dr Dale resident. And there's components about the ketogenic diet that are part of that low carb, which are unnecessary. In fact, if you didn't do that, regardless of all the other things that are mentioned, you wouldn't get the benefits of any of those other things, so it has to be included. It's necessary, but not sufficient for some. It's an incredible change, so maybe it is sufficient for some. But for most, it's just a vital component. And I think Alzheimer's is quote unquote, that canary in the mine shaft in the sense that this is what's happening and we can watch. What's happening to a large volume of people was hugely large volume of people, but it's a consequence of a high carb diet, times a number of years times the number of decades and our times the number of generations. And so this is the kind of thing that has to be addressed. So carbs, however you want to look at it. High carb diet for his long period of time creates a lot of damage. We can pick five or six other conditions. Two say the carbs, who are ah, major contributor of inflammation, et cetera, et cetera, and then secondary causes and so on, but specifically on dementia is amazing. So what can you do and let me sit? Check over my notes here, try to put together some basic ideas. Is that the thing that really been developed in the last five years? And I'm sure some of you already know this. We hear about key tones. Just take, keep him. Just take, just take key tones. All right, let's talk about that. So there's a thing called exogenous key tones, and now there's two groups of exogenous key tones. When are called exogenous assaults. That is, you have powder you can take that is, takes very salty and doesn't taste great, and you can buy it on Amazon pilot and number of places. And then there's a thing called exogenous Esther's Sochi tone Esther's. So now there's two different forms. Both their expensive, the exogenous Esther's are out of his 300 to $1000 a month, and the key tones were about $300 a month. So the thing that has never talked about that is equally efficacious. It may not be equally usable in all situations because it's an oil, and that is compare like Asa trackless right, otherwise known as C eight m. C. T. Oil. Yes, we have a product, basically just that oil for these reasons, called C eight key to M C T. Oil. So why do people not talk about that? For one is see a key to M C T. Oil Capri. Like acid triglyceride these air, not patentable products. These air merely oils that have come from in this case has come from a sustainable palm oil. Others they can drive it from coconut oil that the problem of coconut oil is that there's no such thing as sustainable. Coconut oil hasn't become so sophisticated yet, but anyway, it's an oil that comes from a plant, and it's a natural product, and because it's a natural product, it cannot be patented and because it cannot be patented, they will not be a lot of research done on this particular molecule. This particular is more than a molecule. Is a plant? Well, no, actually is. It's a molecule, so it's specifically completely gas. See, it converts into key tones within 15 minutes, so it's pretty remarkable, and you can measure it in your blood's with Ca Tom Attar. And so we go now goes back about three years ago that we did compare on ourselves. This is an end one are actually an end of two to see, uh, to what degree could you increase your key towns and to go? And how fast could you do that? I didn't see that the assaults were any faster than the oils, and so you would never just take oil straight in a smaller amount. You could, but you don't need a lot. And before even go into that whole aspect, there is one person, Dr Steven Canadian, who I did a long interview with over a couple ah, couple podcasts on his work with C eight, and it's remarkable that he's chosen to look into this, and I remember talking to him at the first metabolic therapy conference. 05 years ago or so and ah, Universes, South Florida, Tampa He and Dr Mary Newport. I'll get to her in a second that he had done a poster presentation. So it's out in the hall poster presentation of comparing and different medium chain triglycerides C, A, C 10 C 12 and their speed at converting into beta hydroxy beauty rate. That's one of three key tones. Well, the oil, which is gorilla Gassid, converse into all three key tones. A seat acetone ah, see to ask Deteriorate and, um, beta hydroxy Pietari. So there's three different key toned bodies that air kicked off because of this, and each have their own functions. Whereas a key tone salt and Esther is specifically bid hydroxybutyrate. That is what has created the other two are not created. That's one difference. The other differences, obviously the cost. So the C eight has become. It's a very unsophisticated product. It's just oil. So that's all there is just oil, and you haven't a bottle, and you have it on your counter. You also can get as a powdered, but a powdered has to be mixed with a binder and the binder is a carbohydrate, so you're actually are getting carbs. When you're taking a powdered version of C eight, however, you are getting C A, which is directly converted into key tones. So the key thing here in this specific setting condition disorder of dementia is key tones. Specifically, ordinarily, I would talk more about low carb, high fat diet to create key tones and all the wonderful things that that does to, you know, change your body over time, but specifically what has happened in the brain? Who? The brain of all of us actually nowadays. But in a brain that has been diagnosed with mild cognitive impairment, my mild cognitive impairment is the threshold of entering into full on dementia full on Alzheimer's down the road. So but what has happened is that your brain nearly completely and I'm like anything you're going to. What parts but call about 90% of your brain prefers to use fat as a fuel. It prefers to use key tones as a fuel. So if you now know that and you can now make he tones, now you have three different types. You can use the salts you can use the Astors you can even use. See a in your food on your food to create key tones for you. Suddenly, you can go straight to that part of the brain and give it what it needs. Well, why is there a dementia in the first place? What is the shutting down that happens? Well, it comes from, as I said before comes from decades of our generations of having a high carb diet. We might not have considered a high carb, but by comparisons of today two and three and 400 grams of carbs per day for a person's eye, it is huge. So what happens? So much carb gets obviously converted. A glucose is that it becomes too much. And so what happens? Your receptors to use glucose tend to shut down, either become damaged or become fewer. And there's number of compensatory mechanisms that take place to basically mean that there's fewer and fewer receptors to bring in. There's overwhelming amount of glucose because there is such an overwhelming amount of glucose in the brain to use. So consequently, this shutting down fewer and fewer receptors begins your cognitive impairment, and so they actually have Let me just finish this thought. Where is fatso? In order for you to you get enough glucose, which is not the preferred fuel for the brain. You really serve to ramp up even higher levels of glucose, which will even drop down your glucose receptors even more so you wouldn't do that. But that was a way you'd get through and say, OK, I have some thinking again. So to say I have some abilities momentarily that you didn't have or that person didn't have. The other way you can do it is basically by creating key tones, concentration in your blood that goes into your brain, and you keep that concentration kind of like a tide that rises. So if you can keep that concentration of key tones at a certain level or higher, and these numbers are pretty much ascertained, so it's by concentration of key tones determines its push. It's kind of, Ah, push factor into the brain. Where's glucose is actually pulled into the brain? Another slight difference. So having a percentage of key tones in your bloodstream all the time, I delay well restore. It's another way of turning on the brain is restoring function someone way. We're not really restoring function were actually cooking up a different fuel. The preferred fuel that you are born in having where you were born in ketosis, by the way, and breast milk was key tonic, ketogenic, I should say. And so you you basically air creating. You're turning on those lights with a different fuel. That's really all that's happening. So the restoration of function isn't so much a measure of your changing something that didn't exist before. You're simply providing a different source of electricity for using that metaphor. Pretty cool, huh? So, however you get to the key tones for this particular situation, it really is a key tones story. So when I get to listening to Greg O'Brien, talk about this and this is certainly what I would have brought up in that particular room. But I I was a bit conflicted whether he wanted to draw attention to himself and his plight because there's some money behind this, his book and so on, so forth or not. Um, I didn't get a sense, and I often get this in a lot of medical conditions. People don't want to improve because if you take their medical condition away from them. You take their identity away from them, and therefore their motivation to make a change is very low. And that's an odd thing, that that you think everybody would want to be healthier and the brighter and cleaner for as long as they possibly could, and they often say that they can. But here we have an example of no, we're gonna wait for the government to get behind some particular patent of pill. It's going to come around. No thing that you can take from your hand to your mouth to your brain. We're not gonna do that. So I don't mean to be so critical of this perspective. I think it's excellent. He's making this story so personal, so we'll hear that. But there are plenty of things you can do, and it's like I wish other conditions where this easily improved. You know, you can't that easily improve a lot of other conditions, a lot of their painful conditions. You can long term, but you can't immediately. And so I think it's a small miracle. So I think that C eight, whether it's our product or another product that do believe ours is the highest purity, etcetera, etcetera. And it's, you know, from sustainable palm oil. You need to use that personally. If this is you were talking about, you need to give it to whoever it is that you're working with. You need to work it into their food. Don't be using it as a drink because too much oil, whether it's olive oil, are avocado oil or completely gas. A trackless ride is going to have your stomach feel kind of burn for a bit. You feel kind of crappy, so you got to keep it at a reasonable dose. Now enter Dr Steven contain again, and there's a plenty of links in the link section of this particular podcast, and you'll find there's another presentations. He's given that, really he just used two tablespoons that is 30 grams of public assets, reckless ride per day to see these improvements, and you can go into what kind of improvements were there. It's I think it's pretty miraculous. So the measurement of some takeaways and I'm jumping around to cover all this is that some of the takeaways are mild. Cognitive impairment happens at a fairly young age. We couldn't always measure. But now we can measure it. So even into the early twenties, Orpheus finding this is per Dr Cronyn and now others were finding impaired cerebral impairment. Do Dio with M C I a mild cognitive impairment and so they could be treated. But it has caused come to those people. Yes, because they might have had a predisposition but a predisposition combined with a high carb diet. If these people with a predisposition our speaking of a po E for four Centaline and a few other genes don't get too overwhelmed, it's not that big of a deal, really. If they did not have a high carb diet, they had a low carb diet, high fat diet, ideally one that's producing key tones anyway, that they would not have these predispositions. So the predisposition is really a cause cause from high carb diet, a secondary cause from the diet as many things are secondary cause from a high carb diet. So okay, so you make that change, you're well on your way to now restoring brain function. So as people get older, that measurement of CME I mild cognitive impairment is more and more noticeable. More and more measurable, and it's measurable on pet scans. And now Cato pet scans. They can measure the kitto kitto. They can measure the key tone uptake versus a glucose uptake. That's pretty remarkable. Seems like yesterday's luxuries, which is This is a very recent thing to have. Ah kee tone pet scan that is less than three years old, I believe, and certainly they have it up. But sure, Brook University in Quebec, where Dr Cronyn works in a few other university, spent not many. So it's unique to be able to see that. So before that, it was just pet scans and pet scans, which is watching these tracers and what we're glucose is being taken up in the brain gives Yu Ri's ah read of cerebral activity really interesting to see this. So what we see with Alzheimer's Raines is a diminished glucose activity. Why don't have diminished glucose activity? Just told you we have fewer and fewer receptors because we had ah, history of a high carb diet. The drove those receptors down, so that's now a poor place to put your fuel, so to say, for the break, and we when you can see that the key tone uptake by Taquito pet scan. We can see that that function has not changed over time. Isn't that impressive? So this is clearly a tool that I could per separate over and say again and again and again that this is that important to do so if you are stepping out and you just hear this podcast and go do it yourself, don't drink. Take this bottle and guzzle it and expect immediate change. That's being an idiot. It really is being an idiot. Use a little prudence, See, put it in the context of your food. So what I do? Ah, we don't have really a history of dementia. My mother, who died at 93 didn't recognize me in the end, but recognize the rest of the valley. For the most part, I believe that her dementia came from her, bleeds heavy, believes that you would have from her falls that when she was on blood thinners and so I don't have a great feeling about blood thinners because of the dimension they can induce in older population. Anyway, so is that story. I didn't know enough about key tones at the time, and perhaps he would have been a whole different thing back then, and that weighs in 2020 11 2012. I believe it's not that long ago, so this is a take home actionable item you can have, and I wouldn't have more than a teaspoon or tablespoon tablespoon would be hard to start with, but put it into We'd make Mayo so we put our C eight and with eggs and salt and vinegar, and we put a little collagen. They're blended up with an emergent blender, and we go through a couple of jars Mason jars of mayo. So it's one source of of contextual eyes. Couple like acid. See a key to M C T. Oil. I also poured on my meat or my fish or my chicken. I had that in maybe once in a day, and I'm doing this less unless I put a little bit of my coffee and I mixed that with collagen has become kind of a trendy thing to do, but we didn't do it because it was trendy by the way we did it, because it was convenient. Not, you know, it's basically a paternity alternative to dairy, and I really helps you sustain through the day If you have a project to work on and you know it just a little bit, I'm talking about a teaspoon and some college and mixed in with your coffee or tea that will keep you going frilly, frilly, focused for a long period of time. Pretty amazing. So if I was a college student apart from the whole CM, I aspect I would take this leading up to exams. This gives you what something I could say. That sounds a little, little exaggerated, brain numbing focus on what you need to do for hours. And that's exactly what you need to do. What I needed to do when I was in sitting for the finals and immense school. So it's a big leg up there, so it's an easy thing to do. You have, and the answer is something you can do. See what else I have here. The one thing that I now I'm speaking more generally and using the high fat, low carb diet ketogenic diet with Elder lays that you know we can't just come to dementia as a one cause I just kind of gave you a cause of dementia, which was the whole down regulation of glucose receptors in the brain. But you also have to take a reasonable approach. You know, get some good blood board bloodwork about this person and make sure they're not anemic. Make sure that then they're not vitamin deficient. And how would you? How would you understand how to do that? There's a company out. There is a couple of companies out there when I use is Spectra Cell, Send off your blood, have a comeback and it's an intracellular, a measurement of nutrients. I've been doing that for the last last 20 years. I like doing that. But the concern. So the concern is you rule out these other contributing factors. Okay, so check that off and you checked off the C eight aspect. The other thing I would look at that doesn't contribute so much, too Dementia and Alzheimer's. But it contributes to making the ketogenic diet problematic to implement for holder people, and that is potassium, sodium and magnesium. When you drop your carbs, you drop your kidney's ability to absorb sodium and magnet eso all, Um actually but mostly sodium and potassium and somewhat magnesium, so you need to supplement these things, so we add salt to her coffees and and I've never been assault person before. But having done that for now a couple of years, at least couple years, if not for five years, I would recommend to people that are the caretakers of people who have Alzheimer's and want to go down. This road is, yeah, you can use the salt and it's really hard over Salter food, and I know that's contrary to what you've heard about other doctors. I shouldn't use salt because I have high blood pressure. Well, change your diet. First. Your blood pressure will fall. Is you become, ah, low carb, high fat, so that will be removed and then start bringing in your salt, but also work with something as you make through this transition of magnesium is the other. And so if you didn't have these things, so what I'm saying is what I lead up to now, as I tell people, take a supplement. Ah, usually it's electrolytes, which is the potassium and magnesium, potassium and sodium, and then they'll have a magnesium supplement. So in addition to putting salt in the food, if they want to or in their drinks if they want to. That is great to have an electrolyte supplements that I don't mean electrolyte drink because most of the drinks that are out there have sugar and, um so as much as their electrolytes. They also put sugar. So that's why I said supplements. So until a better supplement drink comes out, just tell Great just to supplements. So those would be the things that I would also look at. So look at the magnesium and sodium and potassium. What you'll find is with older people will cramp up. They'll, um, they'll get their toe cramps, their foot cramps, the calf cramps and eventually the site cramps, which usual, it'll happen at night. And here you go. You can take care of that. Sodium Potassium are worried about that craps as well, but we're also worried about heart issues. So take care of those things easy to take care of. You have the oil, you're gonna do your basic blood work. Just remove the other obvious things out there. So if you're on a ketogenic diet, you're doing all these things. Been talking about what? You didn't do anybody's blood work and they were anemic. That's not gonna change anything. So anemia is anemia, and you got to check into it, and it does happen a lot with the elderly. The other thing, I, um, doesn't have directly to do. It's dementia and older people. But muscle mass loss protein we need more protein than then has been advertised has been recommended. And now you'll hear a number of Garcia number of references encouraging. Older people have more protein, and I 100% believe that and certainly working out. And if when one works out you know about my high intensity training, I do it. Ah, man, unlike Dr Ben a way of doing it. He's pretty much the one who brought it to the world, in my view, so thes Things are important, so wherever you start and the easiest place to start is getting some of the oil into your diet or somebody else's diet that you care about. But bringing in these other aspects bring in the cardiovascular to an extent walk around the block if they are not walking around the block. But really you have to consider doing high intensity exercise, which is weight resistance, whether it's by rubber bands or you're actually going to the gym. So the gym that I goto, I actually see people in their seventies and eighties and maybe even nineties. I don't know, whole old everybody is in the gyms working with weights, and that's, Ah, that's impressive. And it's not the weight that they lift or bend or pick up or whatever. It's the slowness of doing the exercise that creates the intensity. So it's the intensity and that the external wait a year working with hence, for bands, do just fine. So I'm gonna close on that. The u You have a handle on some things that you could do our actionable. I hope you work with somebody who is trained to do this. It's not that sophisticated. You can go deep on all the things a person needs, but we're talking about What can you do is a care giver. Where's your as yourself being preemptive broad preventative for dementia? And so that's quite an easy list, I'd say unlike other conditions, it's not. It's not that sophisticated. It's not that complicated, but you got to start and you got a track. So the most difficult thing with the ketogenic diet, I would say. And wouldn't this now from working with people? It's having people actually keep track of what they eat. They don't want to do that. They're like little babies. I don't want to do that. You just tell me what to do. I'll do that. I don't know what they do. So when people work with me, they have to track their foods for a couple of months. We give him a nap to do that, and I watch them. So that has to happen. They need to get that part down. They can't just, you know, walk around. It knew all the easy things. Like drink more oil ch. That's that's not gonna help them that much. You know, it just gonna help me some for sure. But it's not gonna replace the need to drop their carbs. Okay, til next time. I hope this has been interesting to you. We brought another voice into the podcast, then, uh, learning to be a little more sophisticated doing all this. Take care. Bye bye. Hi, This is Dr Gold Camp. I just wanted to encourage you to send in your questions too. Dr Gold Kampuchea Naturopath dot com Many of you have, And so what I've done with these questions that gotten back to mostly people I email. But some of the questions that were so good and if they're overlapping to other questions, I would combine them and try to put that into the topic of a podcast, either via one of the micro top Exeter covered in an interview. As you know, we cover a lot of topics in any given interview or some of my own sort of reporting, if you will, on some of these issues. So please keep the questions coming. Feel free to send in an email and I will get back to you. One thing I want to say. A number of questions have come in in which I've given this answer and the email didn't work. So just make sure that you're receiving at the same email that you sent it in, and I think that might have been the difficulty so ill afford to your questions. I just wanted to make sure that you knew that I'm open to answer your questions, and I think this world of Kato is not just black and white, you know It's nice that it's simple, but it's not simple for some. I'm really trying to, you know, go down as anybody, any of you who have listened to all my podcast. We started way back when the history of evolution, epilepsy and so on so forth, you know, now we're seeing some tremendous overlap in various mental disorders, schizophrenia or neurological disorders that are not just epilepsy and also just for people and losing weight. It's sometimes pretty complicated for them to engage in Kyoto, and so they need some help. And so that's the whole point of please. That's what I think I'm doing is exploring the world. Why are there other factors? So in exploring some of those other factors, we've covered addiction. We've covered hormones, have covered nutritional deficiencies, We've covered certain metabolic lab results, and we'll go further. We'll even get Thio more on genome and aspect. So these are all just contributions that make for an obstacle for some people to engage easily in the ketogenic diet. This my belief and these are things that I've discovered, and I think other people have discovered some of these things but not ever put them together. So stayed listening. Send in your questions and I will definitely get back to you. Goodbye