The James Granstrom Podcast - Super Soul Model series
Have you been questioning how to live your dreams and enjoy greater happiness, health, and wellbeing? I'm James Granstrom, male model turned international speaker and wellbeing teacher. Join me every other week for new lessons, tips, and conversations on personal growth, health, healing and spirituality with my inspiring guests or straight talk from myself. I'm here to guide you to become your best self and enrich your life, so you can tune and tap into your own natural state of wellbeing.
The James Granstrom Podcast - Super Soul Model series
The Secret Intelligence and Healing Power of Water with Veda Austin
Tune in as we dive into the fascinating world of water with Veda Austin, a groundbreaking water researcher whose journey began after a life-altering car accident. Veda's path to healing through New Zealand's naturally alkaline waters sparked a deep exploration into water's mysterious nature. Her insights challenge conventional thinking, revealing water as more than a liquid—it’s a fluid intelligence with memory, capable of reflecting deeper truths about ourselves.
Discover the science and mystery of the fourth phase of water (H3O2), a liquid-crystal state crucial for cellular health and energy. Learn how light, materials, and even human intention influence water's behavior, offering profound implications for health, consciousness, and well-being.
We’ll also uncover how gratitude, positive intentions, and ancient symbols can transform water’s structure, enhancing its potential to support healing and emotional balance. Veda shares practical tips to optimize your water for health and inspiring stories of individuals who’ve experienced life-changing results through their connection with this essential element.
Explore water as not just a resource but a profound partner in self-awareness, healing, and connection to life itself. This episode will leave you with a renewed appreciation for water’s boundless mysteries and its intimate link to our existence.
In this episode I'm speaking to Veda Austin. Veda is a water researcher, public speaker, mother, artist and author. She's dedicated the last 10 years to observing and taking photos of the life of water and believes that water has and is a fluid intelligence. Whatever your thoughts are about water, prepare to be mind blown. Enjoy the episode.
Speaker 2:We talk about water as a mystery. The fact that we don't know very much about water means we're still learning about ourselves, and what I've seen is that water reads potentials. So when I put a seed into the water, I see the apple. If I put a sunflower, I see the sunflower. And I always say if we could all see how water sees us, we would stop looking in the mirror going. I wish this, I wish I could look like so-and-so or I wish I didn't have this wrong with me, all of the things that we nitpick at ourselves. Water just sees us as we are.
Speaker 1:Hello and welcome to the james granstrom podcast super soul model series, where I help you tune and tap into your natural state of well-being. In this week's episode I'm speaking to veda austin. Veda is known for her work in water consciousness and her unique exploration of water's memory and its secret intelligence. She's just written a new book on her life's work, which is understanding the living language of water. So I'd like to welcome to the Super Soul Model Series Veda Austin.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's such an honor to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Joy to have you, veda. So I guess my question is understanding water and the depth and the material and the discoveries and all the photographs you've taken in, however long. It's been way over decades for you doing this understanding in the map of consciousness and I just love to understand how did your journey begin to wanting to understand water, because you've gone into such detail in your beautiful book and, as more people will find out about your work, how did this journey begin for Veda?
Speaker 2:Well, there's kind of a long version and a short version, and the longer version includes having been in a horrendous car accident, and without getting into all of the details because I think we have a lot of other things to discuss, I ended up having a healing experience with a specific type of water here in New Zealand. It was a natural, artisan water with a very high natural pH of 9.9. And I had been, as I mentioned, in this car, this car accident. Basically, we went under a seven-ton truck, rolled twice and the driver died immediately, and over the course of 20 or so years, I had eight surgeries and three of them were for bowel surgery because the seatbelt crushed my internal organs. On my final surgery, I woke up surrounded by doctors, and they said well, you didn't recover, well and now you have showers of blood clots in your lungs and you're going to have to be on warfarin, potentially for the rest of your life, which was absolutely shocking to me, even though I was young, outside of the car accident, injuries, very healthy, I didn't smoke, I didn't do drugs, I didn't drink and I looked after my body, and so I was told I would die if I didn't do this. So I took warfarin, which is a blood thinner, for several months until I had a clean chest x-ray. And although the doctors suggested to me you know you really should just continue on this potentially for the rest of your life, I tuned into my body's decision and I kind of already knew that my body could heal itself, because after the car accident three doctors had told me I'd never be able to have children and I'd already had a child for every doctor that told me I couldn't. So you know, I knew my body could heal and so essentially I put what they told me on the shelf. I didn't disregard it.
Speaker 2:But I went on my own healing journey and I spoke to a friend of mine who was a medical doctor who also practiced Ayurvedic medicine, and he said if you can find a natural source of naturally alkaline water, it might help to bring your body back into balance. And so I thought well, that sounds easy. You know the foundation of life. So in New Zealand we have lots of naturally alkaline water Most spring water is naturally alkaline and I put myself on two-week trials and eventually I had a wellness center. By this time A client said you know, there's this guy, he's got his own private source of water and he's only giving it to cancer patients, and maybe you want to try some, and so this was the 9.9 out of the ground. Ph stands for power or potential of hydrogen. There's a lot more we can get into about that, but that's not what I want to focus on.
Speaker 2:Essentially, three days into it, I noticed a really big change in something many people don't talk about and that is bowel motions, and after so much bowel surgery I've become much more comfortable talking about these things. But things started to move in a really positive way and the work. So. Much of the world is so dehydrated and they really struggle trying to just have pass a bowel motion, so this is something I think is really important.
Speaker 2:But day 10, I noticed something really big happen. I had all these bumps come up on my arm and jaw that were particularly painful and I ended up it's disgusting as it sounds getting some tweezers and it felt like there was something actually coming out and I pulled this little shard of green glass out of my arm and between day 10 and 12, I had pulled 27 pieces of glass out of my arm and that had been embedded in my body for over 20 years because the man who died had a nightclub and in the back of his car were crates of Steinlager beer, which is a lager in a green glass bottle, and when the car rolled, this side of my body got more green glass and this side got more windscreen. So I went into this deep dive as to what makes this water different, went looking at an analysis and all of these kinds of things, and in the end I ended up asking probably the most important question that I am still asking, and the question is what is water?
Speaker 1:What is water?
Speaker 2:What is water? And to many that might seem obvious oh, it's H2O. And I'm like, well, I don't have any connection to those letters, or H2O. What is my connection to hydrogens and oxygen? I mean, granted, we need these things for life, but tell me something deeper than that. And so someone said the two hydrogens are feminine and in the mode of levity, and the large oxygen is masculine in the mode of gravity, and together they create liquid water and balance on Earth. But someone else said that water is actually only one part matter, and that's the hydrogens and oxygen. The rest is photonic light.
Speaker 2:And when I started seeing water as a lighthouse, a lot of other things started to make sense and the healing journey evolved on its own. And the healing journey evolved on its own. But from there on I started being interested in the new science of water, the fourth phase of water, as we have a liquid, solid gas and a type of gel or plasma, and that's the kind of water that's in our cells and it's the kind of water that builds between a liquid and a solid and a solid and liquid. And so I started to look who's doing what about water? And obviously you come across Masaru Emoto.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he, although clearly not embraced by the scientific community at all, his work nonetheless opened people to the concepts of being bodies of water, sensitive to thoughts, sounds and environment and energy, and really helped people with about eight contrasting microscopic photographs of water, responding to either a positive or a negative, so to speak, helped people to really identify themselves as bodies of water. And that led me on to learning about a man called Laurent Costa who has a book called Journey into the Heart of Water, and he was taking microscopic photographs of water as well, but there was no part. This is what I love about him, because I can relate. There was never a part of him that was experimenting, because for him the water was his spiritual teacher and he saw that water was responding, not just reacting in the same way that I have, and so he would invite water to share whatever water wanted. But sometimes he couldn't help but smile at the water before he'd flash, freeze it and he was literally out. As well as getting geometry like a moto, he was seeing smiley faces, he was seeing fish and hearts and cats in the ice, and microscopically, and they were all things relative to either his thoughts, that from that day, or cats walking around near him because he had some cats, and I loved his work because geometries, of course, are beautiful and we are naturally attracted to them. They make sacred geometry, makes the universe up, but art is something. And sacred geometry makes the universe up, but art is something expressive, something unique, and it is a kind of to me it's an intelligent language and that just kept on leading on to more and more research around what else is there? More research around what else is there, and I ended up wanting to to see whether or not water really had what we, what people, keep terming as memory.
Speaker 2:But in all honesty, I I think a lot of things are upside down and I am constantly re-looking at what I say. Is that right? Is memory right? Maybe it's more from what perhaps an Aboriginal person might say. It's actually water dreaming, it's actually water imagining. I see that water is not limited to time and space.
Speaker 2:So it makes me ask much, much deeper questions, from seeing all these people's work, as well as hearing about a man called Thomas Hieronymus who went into a Parisian meat market. So he was a radionic engineer and he went to this meat market on a frosty, cold day and he noticed that the freshly placed organs of an animal appeared to be affecting the way the frost froze on the glass behind where they were placed, like the frost would freeze into the shape and form of a liver organ above a liver organ, and so on and so forth. And he had this hypothesis that there seemed to be some kind of life force, energy still emanating out of these organs, even though they weren't attached to an animal. And he put this down to there being water in the blood.
Speaker 2:And water is always in some kind of if you bear with me with this word communication with itself in its varied forms, particularly liquid and gas. And so each organ has something called a sonic signature, which is like a cymatic imprint of form and function. And that information was being shared with water in the air, and the water in the air was given the conducive environment of freezing into being able to show the form of the information. And I took all of that, all of these things and these experiences and put them into this one question of okay, well, let's just see what happens. What happens if I do this? The secret I saw was in the phrasing with the unseen becomes seen, hieronymus was saying… what?
Speaker 1:you're talking about, when you're talking about the fourth phase of water. Is that correct? Is that the bit where water goes from a fluid or a liquid and turns into something solid? So, for instance, if we're touching ourself, we know in this physical reality, in order for us to experience life, we need to experience physically. And because water is a liquid, when it becomes a solid meaning frozen we understand it gives us more information. Is that, is that correct? And you tell me?
Speaker 2:no, no. There is a liquid, a solid, a gas, and then a type of gel or plasma. That gel or plasma, or what is also known as liquid crystal, is the fourth phase of water.
Speaker 2:So, there are literally four phases and it's the phase between the liquid state and the frozen state. It is a visible state. It's like a type of ice, except that it has more viscosity and it's actually not even H2O, it's H3O2. It has an extra hydrogen and oxygen atom. It is negatively charged and it has an ordered molecular structure that is more lattice-like and hexagonal, much like the molecular structure of crystals, which is why it's called liquid crystal, even though it's not exactly liquid. So, although it can look that way, there's variations that you see within fourth phase water.
Speaker 2:And another example which is helpful is when Dr Gerald Pollack, for example, in his lab, when he's looking to identify fourth phase water within liquid water. They have a little container of water. They put something called microspheres in it that allow you to see movement, and they put a Nafion tube, which is a little see-through tube and it's hydrophilic, so water loving inside the water. If there is fourth base water within it, what they'll see is that the water is self-propells through the tube. You can see it with the microspheres moving, so it's constantly moving without any seemingly audience.
Speaker 1:could you just tell someone what a hydrophilic tube is, because not everybody may not understand what that is, so that they can understand this process like visually, if they were listening to this?
Speaker 2:Okay. So imagine you have glass and you have plastic side by side. Yeah, you put water on glass a flat glass it will kind of spread out evenly. If you put water onto plastic, it pills, it makes little balls and it doesn't spread easily. So your cells, the walls of your cells, are hydrophilic or water-loving. They let water spread around it evenly, whereas for example, something hydrophobic like plastic, it tends to make water, pill and create these kind of balls so it just kind of falls off like your windscreen. You know, you kind of hit it hits it and it's because often that'll have a kind of hydrophobicness about it. So the water is not necessarily. That's some windscreens that might not be the best example, because I've seen different windscreens do different things.
Speaker 1:I think this is a really good question. To intervene here, just interject here. So the difference between drinking water from a plastic bottle might cause that internally hydrophobic flow into the body and then if you're drinking through a glass bottle it might be more hydrophilic. Is that possible?
Speaker 2:I don't think I I think that the human body is actually really sophisticated. It can take whatever water you give it and it will eventually turn it into the kind of water that goes into your cells, our body. It makes it easier if that water has a specific structure to be absorbed through the cells, and by that it's actually a lot of people I hear say you just drink this water, it's going to make it more structurally bioavailable to your cells. Well, that can be the case in some situations and not in others. And so when we're talking about h302, so that fourth base water, our body is constantly taking whatever water you give it and making it into that fourth phase water once it goes into the cells. So our body runs on that type of water regardless. However, the better the quality of the water is, the less your body has to do to make that conversion.
Speaker 2:So plastic is not the ideal container for water because it's hydrophobic. There's all the other aspects to what's in plastic and one of the biggest problems outside of being plastic is that it's see-through, because water is really sensitive to light and artificial light. It is far, far better to work with water which has actually been stored in a container which has been keeps the light out so we can talk about other aspects, like there's about three things I could suggest to people that they can do practically from a health perspective or a healing perspective. And structurally I see a difference between the same water being held in plastic and in glass. There is always a structural more of a structural degradation in plastic and in glass. There is always a structural more of a structural degradation in plastic than in glass. But it's also been proven that water held in glass can build a little fourth base water on the side of the glass.
Speaker 2:It's minute, though what they're seeing is minute, and the reason that it's there and the reason that it can happen is that fourth base water essentially is water that has pushed all of the solates out of itself. Anything that's in the water is pushed away and creates a negatively charged zone. What it pushes out becomes a positively charged zone. When you have a negative and a positive, then you have battery essentially, and that is one of the reasons that it can self-propel through the tube. So they don't use hydrophobic tubes to see whether or not water can self-propel, because what they're trying to see is what is happening inside of the body. They're trying to see what's happening within the water, within the cells.
Speaker 1:So okay, now we're going to get so that's a very lovely scientific understanding of the difference between hydrophobic and hydrophilic. I think what I would really love to do is to share with the audience some of your ideas, of your pictures, some of the photographs that you've taken, so they can understand why you've gone into really wanting to understand the depth of how water moves and its relationship to us. So you talk about in your book that water has memory. You also talk that water has a consciousness. What does that actually mean to somebody who might not know what that understanding is, when you're using the word water and consciousness?
Speaker 2:I think it's helpful for people to know that over the course of the last decade I have been working as a water researcher, as a crystallographer and water lover and I have over 53,000 photos of water responding to human consciousness to environment, and the way that it does that is in a very visual way. So I am essentially have a glass Petri dish. I've used all kinds of water. I put water in the dish to a specific amount, I inspire it in whatever way that might be, whether it's putting a feather in and taking out, whether it's writing a word. Doing all of this, I freeze it using a short-term method, which means that essentially in my freezer it's five minutes and 20 seconds.
Speaker 2:I'm looking for water on top and ice underneath. We're capturing the first freeze. That is that fourth phase stage where it's actually more of a plasma. I'm tipping the liquid away and I'm photographing the crystallography that sticks to the dish. So it's a very short, very fun method, but it allows me to see imagery in a way in which I had not been able to see when I didn't know better and I used to freeze water solid for a year. It has allowed me to see the difference between a solid and a liquid crystal and how much more information is shared in it. So, within that, what I see is that water isn't just reacting. This is not just a reaction. I have some of the largest amount of repeatability in my work specifically to hydroglyphs, which is a slightly separate thing.
Speaker 2:I have some of the largest amount of repeatability in my work, specifically to hydroglyphs, which is a slightly separate thing. Yeah, so I see a signature pattern that allows me to identify the type of water it is. I see art. I always say art is the heart of water. And from an artistic perspective you you know, I used to work professionally as an oil painter, but I also studied archaeology and I've also been um in a lot of research and development. So I love to see the world from an artistic perspective and I see that water can pick up on people's photos and faces. For example, I'll put a photo of a friend, put my dish of water on top of it for 30 seconds, remove, freeze and I'll see an image of their face. And with different people's faces it picks up their different features. But I can then, for example, take my friend Wendy's face and do that whole thing, see her face, then print out the ice face and use that as an inspiration.
Speaker 1:So you're basically like doing a photography. I study photography so it's like the negative of the actual photograph. So what you're left with it was what of wendy's face?
Speaker 2:the negative of her face. So what as she saw for her face was the details, the lips, the eyes, the back, the nose, everything there. But when I showed water that image that it had created, it designed a negative of that image. And then I continued that conversation actually, which is with the water constantly showing it what it designed to itself, and and it went. Next, one where it became slightly you could still see it was the base, and the next one was a little less, but then the next one became even more developed again. So it's fascinating what's going on there.
Speaker 2:But in many cases I will have an image. I'll let it freeze Sorry, I'll freeze it. I'll let it melt and then I'll refreeze it and I can see the imprint is still there. Sometimes it becomes even more defined, so you can do that for weeks at a time. So then there's hydroglyphs, and hydroglyphs are where I'm getting a lot more of the scientific attention. That's my be-all, end-all. I love the interweave of science, art and consciousness, but I've found that just to be taken seriously, it's important to be able to work in this way, which can attract a lot of different genres.
Speaker 1:For sure. May I just say that I think that you know, because you've got done 53 000 photographs, of which you published probably at least 1500 in your book. Yeah, at a bare minimum you're probably just taking the quality. Uh, it's lovely to be seen.
Speaker 1:But you also, you know, your own research has just proven to you, more than over a decade, what is this element saying to me? And you know, we take water for granted, we drink it every day, we shower in it, we bathe in it. It's the source of life, it allows us to purify ourself, but at the same time it's just got something else going on that we just can't see underneath. But you've gone into this such great detail to understand what is this thing and I really want to hear about this hydroglyph, the hydroglyph part. But I have to ask you this question because you said at the beginning of this interview you were like I keep on asking this question, what is water?
Speaker 1:And I'm just fascinated because I've been meditating every day for 21 years and the most profound question that I've come across in my meditation, which is just quietening the mind, just entering a space between spaces now, it doesn't mean I'm there all day long, but it might just be a minute a day that I enter this space of total nothingness, of total stillness, and when we look at the surface of a pond, when it's totally still, we just feel this presence talking to us and on occasion I might just ask who am I? Who am I? And in that I might receive something in the silence that I get later throughout the day, and I always tend to ask that question when life is a bit stressful or there's something going on, because you want to be reminded of who am I and I would really love to know have you ever asked water? Who are you and have you ever taken a picture of it?
Speaker 2:um, well, that says kind of a few things in that whole questioning. Um, so firstly, I would say that I think one of the things I think about water is that water is the house of the divine. Yeah, and if you ask who are you, you know as well. One of the one of the integral pieces of how my work works, or how this work with water works, is through light. So if water was the holy grail, its contents would be light. And if our body was the holy grail, then this spirit, this consciousness, essentially would be light. But wherever there is there, the light is. The water is also there in one of its many, many phases. And when I have asked water, who are you? I got actual response in a word, in two words, two small words. I got the letter I and then the next one was A and M I am I am Love.
Speaker 2:So that's what I've done with water, asking that question. I think the study of water is also the study of self, and I think my friend Moses Hackman. He says that the cycle of water is also the cycle of the soul. Whether or not that's true, you know, there's many things we don't know, but there's a lot of nice things we can entertain and I think that water has encouraged me to entertain many, many intuitive hits that it's given me, intuitive hits that it's given me.
Speaker 2:But the cleanest, clearest, simplest way that I think about water now, that I didn't use to think about water when I started this, was that water is the house of the divine. It's like the container of light, that that is the life force, energy. And one of the reasons that I've said that and that I say that was this person. Once this indigenous person said that she could speak to bees and she said she'd watch their hives for long periods of time until one day a bee somehow communicated with her and said we don't mind you watching our hive, but please don't look at it for such a long time, because your conscious expression is putting too much light in the hive and we prefer it to be darker.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And when you think about even where you're putting your attention is also where you put your light. Since water is a container of light, this makes the most sense of how water receives information and also shares information through light. So if I open my freezer at the perfect time which I've done a few times now, and you can't really guess exactly when that's going to be, it just seems to be always a coincidence. Somehow the timing is what it is, where I just open it and I can see this, but I filmed it and I photographed it where, as water's beginning to freeze it, she sends these little kind of ice shoots out before it has taken over the entire dish in ice or liquid crystal and at the tip of that ice you can literally see and photograph light coming out of the tip like a halo.
Speaker 1:You're coming out of the fingertips, you mean.
Speaker 2:Coming out of the shard of ice that first starts before any of the other ice is taken off.
Speaker 2:And so I believe that actually, it's light that paves the way for the design of the ice, because water is a lighthouse, it's actually light that is the designer and the creator and it's the water that becomes the house for that light and that design.
Speaker 2:And because it's water, it allows us to see what energy looks like, it allows us to see what the information that was shared with water looks like. And many traditional sciences the water memory cannot be true, because the water molecules are moving in such chaos, they're moving at some ridiculous amount, like one trillionth, trillionth of a second Hydrogen bronze are breaking, and this is happening and this is happening. And how could water ever store information in such a chaotic state? But then if you ask a quantum physicist of which I have done the same question you know, like, how does water have memory? They would say well, actually there's a difference between molecular chaos and molecular excitement. When water is excited about something which is going at already a personality, I suppose, then there is a cohesive interest, and that cohesive interest essentially is what is able to create an impression of that as it raises.
Speaker 1:So we're seeing like snapshots of thought, literally seeing thoughts crystallize and it's a thought with emotion, so the thought with emotion creates that personality in the water.
Speaker 2:When, when you get that snapshot, actually I found water is more interested in what we're feeling than what we think. The thought with emotion creates that personality in the water. When you get that snapshot, actually, I found water is more interested in what we're feeling than what we're thinking. It will override what you're thinking to show you how you're feeling all the time. If I'm really sad, for example, and I'm putting flowers into the water to see if it will design the flower and taking it out, water won't be interested in the flowers. It's only interested in what I'm feeling. It shows me sad faces like all day in the ice have you?
Speaker 1:um, I'm just fascinated with with some of the subjects how, how's water healing? I know we've talked about you were drinking it with regards to the 9.9 ph, and the usual is about 7 7.2, so that's significantly more alkali than acidic. Um, but, like, how could you see water, having done all your studies, as more of a heat using for for somebody on a day-to-day basis? How could they use it in more of a healing modality than perhaps they're already using it right now? Because I'm sure that's something that people could really be like wow, I could, I can actually do this.
Speaker 2:I can experiment and see what veda's been talking about there's a few examples I can in suggestions I can give um, and, and one thing I'll address because I didn't answer the question was you asked me about is water conscious or consciousness? And it's not something that I say, what I think is possible but I don't know. I'm still learning myself. But what I have seen is that water and consciousness behave, it seems, so intertwined that they behave as one and that there are many, many things that I don't know but that I have seen happens over and over and over again to come to a form, that to be a formulation in my mind and in my heart that water and consciousness either are one in the same or they work together so intimately that they appear one in the same. So I want to address that part.
Speaker 2:So, with healing, I think there are many people that have been using bottles that have words, you know, love and gratitude and these kinds of things, or they've been buying little coasters with emotos like gratitude, water, crystal pictures, these kinds of things, and that's certainly, you know, bringing a conscious awareness into at least the container and also recognizing the power of words, so that we didn't touch on hydroglyphs. So just to say that there's a signature pattern, an artistic expression, and then hydroglyphs. A hydroglyph is where I've used a written word in many languages and seeing that same symbol appear, using the same word at least 50 times, which essentially is sharing with me kind of universal symbolic language and what sort of words you use.
Speaker 1:Your words, I think you've on your studies if you use the words like change and what else have you?
Speaker 2:48 words that I've used, um, but within those 48 words there are other. So each symbol has multiple meanings and those meanings seem to interrelate. An example would be the star that looks like a little star.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:As I hide in the ice. That can mean both light, it can also mean guidance and it can also mean imagination. For example, that means I've done that 150 times, each time 50 times, to make sure that, yeah, I mean in my mind 50 just wasn't random. Change can also be winter, it looks like. It can also mean between. So when I hear, say like 47, 48, I just can't remember because it's a working thing, then even though I've got 48, say, then I might have three or four of the meanings of that one symbol. So that gives us a lot more extra understanding, I suppose. So that's kind of a big deal and it's very helpful for people to be able to see these designs, because I have a PDF of them all and when you do the crystallography and you see them, you go, oh right, oh yeah, that's what she's talking about. I can see that same design because they are very recognizable, all of them.
Speaker 2:So for healing, because there is power in the written word and the spoken word, of course, but I've been working with written words and that's not a new thing.
Speaker 2:For example, the ancient Egyptians would make sigils and within these sigils they would write some hieroglyphs on a little bit of stone or on some virus, and they'd put that into a container of water and they'd let that kind of brew for a while and then they believed that the water was absorbing the energy of the word and that gave the water a magical healing power. And then they would give someone to drink, or they would anoint the the eyes if the problem was the eyes or however they would use it. And even with homeopathy they do something called a paper remedy, where they'll write the name of the remedy on a piece of paper and put the glass of water on top of it and then give that to the client or the patient to drink, and they believe that it's informing the water with the information of that remedy. And so these ideas are not old, they're not new, sorry. They've been around for a long time.
Speaker 1:Even in Lourdes in France, they use that healing water to help heal people, and people go on about the holy water of Lourdes. So it's a similar thing, albeit, you know, just fast forward a few hundred years or a thousand years.
Speaker 2:Well, I think you know water has been informing us for so long and healing us for such a long time, but then we just got to come back into the internal waters of our own body. So, with words, one of the things my children taught me which is, I think, important to listen to because it's found out, it's not just my children, it's many, many children around the world that are doing this. So years ago, I was holding up a dish of water of crystallography, sorry, and so my technique is available. Anyone can do it, like thousands of people around the world can do this. You don't even need a Petri dish, you can use a glass baking dish.
Speaker 2:So literally you can get my PDF, learn how to do it. It's free if you use the word blessing in the code as you check out, but essentially it's an easy technique and when you get the hang of it, there are some really great things you can do relative to healing with it. So I was holding this dish of crystallography up and my daughter said Mommy, can I have that? And I thought she just wanted to look at it. But instead of just looking at it, she started to eat the ice and I said what are you doing, and she said oh, it's good for me, mommy.
Speaker 1:How old was your daughter at the time?
Speaker 2:She must have been about nine, eight or nine years old, right. But then her brother did the exact same thing a few weeks later, separate to her, and he's three years older than her. Okay, and why are you doing it? And he doing it. He goes, it's good for me. And I'm like how come you guys are starting to do this now and you weren't doing before? And I don't. I never really got an answer for that part, and but every now and then they would come back and they would. They would either do it themselves and eat the ice, or they would just eat my ice. And then I started teaching the technique to many, many people, many of whom are parents, and they say, oh, you know, my children, they eat crystallography. And I'm like, really, so, do mine.
Speaker 2:And then, without getting into the whole story there's a longer story there was a few things that helped me come to understanding that there is a power that is coming from the word. It's not that water is reading words. It seems to be picking up on the energy of these words and reverse, engineering them back to some kind of living principle in symbolic form. So if we understand that and we see that there's repeatability there, then we could find our word. We have a body full of intelligence and liquid intelligence and within that liquid intelligence is a well of knowledge.
Speaker 2:And if you pull from that well of knowledge and ask yourself what is my healing word, and you don't let your brain get too involved in that, a word will just pop up, will spring up literally, and for me I had a headache, for example, and I don't get so many headaches, so it was kind of a thing so I was like, okay, what's my word? And immediately purple came into my thoughts process. I'm like okay, I wrote the word purple, put my dish on top of it, froze it using the method, ate the crystallography, and literally within five minutes I could feel my headache going away. Now it's been over two and a bit years since I've been teaching people to do this and this is just a little water from your Petri dish.
Speaker 1:Is that what you're saying? Just a little bit of water.
Speaker 2:It's a thin layer of ice that falls on the pot, so it's hardly any water really that you're just ingesting. But you're eating it as it's starting to melt, so you're eating it whilst it's still in the form, so it holds the information of that word, and by eating it, you're eating water in form and taking it into your own body in form and taking it into your own body, and so there's a and it's also in a liquid crystal state, which is the healthiest state of water to eat, if you will, okay, and so.
Speaker 2:So, within all of that and it's been over two years there have been, I have had over 200 people do this and I have so many people telling me that it has helped them with their health, it's helped them with their sleep, it's helped them even with constipation. One lady had a vaccine injury. Very, very unwell. She also had just a manner of things wrong. At one point she couldn't walk, which I didn't realize. It was as bad as that. Every day.
Speaker 2:She started with the word connection, because that's what was right with her, and she would eat the ice daily and she started to see that she was improving. She was doing the internal work of course don't take away from that and some movement therapy to the point where she was able to walk again. And then, towards the very end, nine months, she did this for an entire nine months daily and her words changed as she improved and by the end of that moment she had a complete, clean bill of health from the doctor. She was well and she was healthy and she showed us something really helpful because we were tracking her entire progress and we noticed that she was only using filtered tap water, because that's all she had available. The filtered tap water in the structures began quite spiky and a bit disordered, but she was eating it no matter what.
Speaker 2:Halfway through also, her crystallography as well as her health completely transformed by the end of it. It would create a creation with. That is this beautiful wave-like pattern in the ice. That's one of the most complex patterns. She was was seeing that every day. So not only did she heal, but the water structures healed alongside of her.
Speaker 1:Right, so it was water, but it now changed the picture that it was giving once it was frozen.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, and what we're seeing with tap water, right, is a structural change, but not a chemical change. So the question is then what are we seeing? And this is very much more akin to an emotion, because an example would be, if someone is sick, that if we, we make the likeness from tap water to someone who's been told they have something wrong with them, there's some some sickness, and maybe someone comes and gives them a blanket and cares about them and gives them a blanket and cares about them and gives them a cup of tea, and they start to feel better. They like feel grateful, but the doctor might say well, you're still sick, but they can't control how that person feels.
Speaker 2:And so the fact that we see structural change in tap water. After you've let it melt and then maybe put it to your heart for 30 seconds lovingly, we'll see structural changes. It starts to look more like leaves from complete disorder, or it might start to form flowery shapes or little hexagons, and this is essentially showing us that there is a change in structure caused from gratitude or caused from genuine loving intention. So if that is the premise of healing, I think it's with the best platforms to start is with an attitude of gratitude, and I think we are creatures of habit, notoriously, so the more we actually continue to be grateful, the more and more that subtle imprint becomes more and more in reality and more solid. So anyway, so the eating of the ice by using the word that comes from you, without too much overthinking, we've seen can make a really big difference. I think of liquid crystal kind or a liquid water, like the messenger, but liquid crystal is kind of the message. So you are literally kind of eating the message.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So the other things, the people who really you know, and so on a daily, day-to-day level. Words can be also very potent. You can write words and put your glass of water on top of them. You can have bottles, but I really encourage people to have a look at the kind of containers that they have their water in. These can prove to be really helpful tools On my daily drinking water. I have water that's been in a blue glass bottle.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not a blue plastic bottle, but a blue glass bottle. As I mentioned, water is super sensitive to light. I've seen the structures of spring water degrade within 72 hours just by being in the light. And so to have it, if you can collect the spring water yourself and, at the or at the very least, just put your water that you love into a blue glass bottle. Now, this would be the only time that I would suggest putting water in the sunshine, because water is very sensitive to color as well, and so the sunshine coming through the blue glass into the water not only helps to restructure the water based off my crystallographic method, that's what I'm talking about from experience does improve those structures so healing-wise, it's one of the most all-around wonderful healing things you can do.
Speaker 1:It helps with everything from toothache and headaches all the way to one of its most important ones is to help reduce stress and anxiety very efficiently. About this a long time ago in dr joe vitality's book zero limits, where dr hugh len uh, the, the teacher of ho'oponopono, talks about. You know the, the blue glass, but you photographed it, so now you're seeing. And you photographed it when, once it's crystallized, so you've seen that it's nice, not that someone's just shared the message. You've actually got your own visual evidence now to say, hey, this is really effective and I have a little thing.
Speaker 1:I have a little thing that I put my water on. I've got like the flower of life here that I put my water on to charge it up and have done for 20 odd years, and I use the blue glass and put it in the sunshine. So it's very easy here being in Spain, but it doesn't matter in any country Just that charge of water can be so powerful. But it's so nice that you get the visual evidence, veda that's actually saying, hey, this is really healing that we can do so easily.
Speaker 2:I've had even more extended evidence for it. I have a friend who's a brain surgeon in the US been a surgeon now for nearly 30 years and about the worst thing that could have ever happened to somebody. Her best friend ended up on her surgery table after having been in a car accident and had a pretty severe head injury, varied other things going on, and, lady, I'm very grateful to her because she's clearly, you know, a very clinical, very highly um praised surgeon in this modality. But she's very, very passionate about water and quality of water and very interested in my work. And she rang me and she hadn't even thought about the time difference. But she rang at like 2 am and she said look, this has just happened. I can't give her the hospital water, it just stinks of chlorine. You know what do you recommend?
Speaker 2:And my first go-to was get the best water you can. I I personally love spring water. If you can collect it yourself, even better. There is a website could find a spring that helps you find a spring closest to you and essentially put it in the sunshine for in a blue glass bottle, in the sunshine for half an hour, like half an hour to an hour, and then let her drink it, and so she did all of this the next day and what she was able to prove was that this lady's blood pressure was really high.
Speaker 2:What she was able to prove was that this lady's blood pressure was really high After drinking the water. Within five minutes, her blood pressure had come down significantly and that it would follow that trend after she would come back up again and then it would go down again after she drank this water and she recovered five times faster than most people with that kind of brain injury. Whether that was it could have been other factors. I'm not saying it's only the blue bottle water. However, it was something that she applied and did regularly. That seemed to make a difference. This was my go-to recommendation for people over the last few years that were highly stressed. It really, really does help with bringing the anxiety levels down.
Speaker 1:So how does this sort of work with intention? Then we have the understanding from your photographs and your own experience with the blue glass. But how does that now sort of work with regards to intention with the water? Because this is something, again, people can try and play with and get their own results every single day. Because I love my audience to always go away and go. I've got something I've learned here you know that I can actually apply, because we all kind of this is what your work's all about. It's like you know, talk to me, how does this, how's this work?
Speaker 2:I've become slightly a little unpopular with some people from what I say, because I'm saying what I see.
Speaker 1:And, by the way, it's good to be unpopular, because if you're unpopular and you're pushing buttons, and you're pushing buttons that actually have some sort of meaning, so it's okay, because you have to have yin and yang in the universe. You can't always have it uh, you know, hunky-dory.
Speaker 2:You have to have some contrast, so that's a good thing well, I'm not too worried, to be honest, because all I'm doing is telling them what I'm seeing. Uh, but I get stent. Every different restructuring device known to man and in the the last 10 years it's just gone pow. You know, everybody's got this restructuring, this thing and this thing and this thing's going to do this and it's going to restructure and blah, blah, blah, blah, and some of them are great and some of them don't work.
Speaker 2:And I can tell people straight up that the biggest structural changes that I see don't come from any man-made machine. They come from conscious expression, 100%. This is what I'm saying is that people keep talking about structural change and this change and that change. You are the restructuring device, if you want to call yourself that. I'm not saying people are devices, but your conscious expression has the complete power to transform these structures with water and I have seen tap water look like perfect spring water by intention and by conscious, loving expression alone, no other thing. In fact, there's a certain way in which water changes structure.
Speaker 2:When you're using a device which kind of takes a certain pattern to get to this point, whereas conscious expression is direct, it doesn't take the order. An example could be like with disordered tap water. It has like lots and lots of lines and dots. It's kind of like legos thrown over the floor. It hasn't formed structure yet.
Speaker 2:Using a certain I don't know some kind of restructuring device, for example, um you, you might see it improve, improve through a series of patterns, so it might go from disorder to more kind of uh grassy patterns and then to flowery patterns and maybe to eventually a hexagonal pattern, which is the pattern you really want to see for the energetic health of water. Okay, whereas conscious, loving expression, you can go from disorder straight to a hexagon. And the reason that I'm unpopular is because I see people being told and I'm not saying that sometimes, but some definitely do actually help, especially vortexing, that really does help. There's certain ones I really like, but I don't want to take away from our own internal power and so we are also our own medicine. So anyway, I just kind of wanted to add on to that part and I also wanted to say that on top of blue glass I like Myron glass which is like a… Myron glass.
Speaker 1:What's Myron glass?
Speaker 2:M-I-R-O-N. It looks black but it's actually a violet glass and for people that are working, especially with people in an emotional environment or people who are working with clients sharing a lot of heavy energy it's like the force field for water. This glass is great if you're traveling because it really is very effective against EMFs. It's like the shield that you can have around your water so you can be in an environment and still drink your water. It hasn't picked up on all that energy.
Speaker 2:The myron glass is very helpful for that um, you put that in the sunlight as well, because I haven't worked with that one, as I think you, I think you, you can and I think it would give a slightly different structure than the blue and have different benefits than the blue, because different colors do change the outcome.
Speaker 1:My friend and I like these different colors. I think it was about 2004 or 2005,. We started putting all these different colored bottles out in the sunlight in Wimbledon in London. We were like this one is for each different chakra, so each color would do something different. Um, but we never were able to test it. It was like how do you feel? That's pretty good. So you know, that was just the answer that we got. It was just a feeling, but it's really the intention behind it. But I'm fascinated when you're talking about the water, because you know this, this is a protective shield.
Speaker 2:That's interesting the other thing and you asked about intention. And intention is like I don't know I can. I can explain it in like artistic terms you have this idea about your painting, but it's not maybe completely formulated. When you sketch, when you sketch the picture out before you paint it, that's kind of giving you the outline for the form, and intention is kind of like a mix of the thought that can become the sketch and it's it's the potential that that the imagined. Once it's something has been imagined, then it can become something.
Speaker 2:So I rurally, so we are not on municipal tap water where I live and I have to drive to Auckland to go and collect municipal tap water, because I often work with municipal tap water as my controls Now, I don't even like that word, but people know what I mean by using the term because tap water is a very consistently disordered. Municipal tap water tends to be and I've become very, very good at being quite neutral with this work. So if I have a desired outcome, I usually won't do it, because my desired outcome can influence the neutrality of it, that's the intention right there.
Speaker 1:You're expecting an outcome, and the water will perhaps mimic what your intention. Is that correct?
Speaker 2:but it can. It depends what your intention is. Water is like a full lie detector test so have you also?
Speaker 1:I've got to ask this question because I mean, have you asked water questions and has it given you answers?
Speaker 2:I have asked questions. I've asked really important, see, I don't. I don't work with water unless with questions or with anything, unless it feels in alignment and correct. But I've asked many questions over the time that have felt right. But I kind of want to address the intention and then we can go to the questions I've asked.
Speaker 2:Because where I live I have to drive to go and get to the municipal tap water and I can't keep the municipal tap water in a cupboard out of the light and then I work with it as I need to. And there's been several times where I have been I've woken up and I thought, oh my god, that poor tap water. I just wish I could maybe send it some love and some healing. I like I feel sorry for it sitting there just in the cupboard like without any attention, and my intention is like that I want to help it and I want to heal it. And so it might be three, four, five hours later I come to go work with that municipal tap water and it's completely ruined as a control because it's all beautiful, All of it has transformed from disorder into order just because I set an intention for that, and that has been my experience on a regular basis if I just start engaging with that water.
Speaker 2:So intention is literally the sketch for your masterpiece. It is so potent and so powerful and it has to be genuine and sincere. And also, water won't design complex imagery in the mode of anger, jealousy or resentment. So it just doesn't design any of these complex designs. And I know that because you know I'm a human. I've been doing this for a long time and we have traffic and we have worldly things and I have children and sometimes I'm over it and when I'm in a really bowel mode, I, if I, if I can actually do the work I have, I, I, I do it. And I see that water does not design with me. It's not judging me, but it is, doesn't resonate at a lower frequency. So I want to take.
Speaker 1:It makes sense, but it's a bit. It's a bit like um, you know, think of the audience like you know, think of you. If you're in the audience, you know. If you go into somebody's room, you can just check to see the vitality of people's plants, because their energy is affecting the plants. Or you look at people's pets, you know how happy are people's pets, because the love that we give, or the light that we give off, or the energy that we give off, or the vibe we give off which is just the same word used in different ways, you know just affect every living thing, even affects the walls, it affects everything.
Speaker 1:But we sometimes forget how powerful we are just by showing up. That's why I always love to ask my clients when I first work with them what are you bringing to the table? Because if you're bringing a low frequency, you're not bringing anything to the table. But if you're bringing an open heart, if you're bringing an open mind, if you're finding a way to want to contribute, then everything changes. And if you're asking any artist, what are you bringing to the table?
Speaker 1:Well, I'm bringing some good ideas today. You know, I'm bringing some excitement and you can just tell when someone turns up in a room or in a dance club or a party, like that guy or that girl. They're bringing something and I'm not sure what it is, and you know we have shows on that called the x factor. But if you don't say anything it's just because they're bringing the vibe and I love that uh experiment that you're going that poor water. I want to give it some love, even though sitting in my cupboard you ruin your whole experiment and you know, have to take your long drive to Auckland to go and collect it, to go all right, okay, that's the 80th time that's happened. Okay, maybe I'm going to try not to send it any love. I can see your frustration better, but at the same time it just goes to show over and over again that when you have an open heart, you change everything you do, and and I I love that.
Speaker 2:What I'm seeing also is that water is wild and we use this term. Well, I'm going to program the water to do what I want. This is another reason I can be unpopular, because people are quite attached to the idea that they are doing this programming and that water is doing what they want programming and that water is doing what what they want. However, from from another perspective like my father is native New Zealand, maori and the Maori people have a saying that I am the river and the river is me, and we are all one in the same and there is also this sense of water essentially being like a container of your ancestral line. And just from another perspective, I've seen water completely ignore me if I am expecting that I know what it's going to do. It's one of the reasons I've become so neutral over the years Because, for example, I often see, with the sound of om, this sort of spiral-ish pattern. So I was thinking, oh well, surely it'll probably do the same thing. You know, if I use the sound of a gong, it's kind of similar. So, in my arrogance, I guess I just expected water to do that. But it didn't do that at all. Water was like it designed the shape of the gong with a mallet on top and designed the instrument instead. So I have seen water have can only be termed as personality over and, over and over again. But one of the biggest tests that I learned was, years ago, somebody wanted to know whether or not water could be manipulated or tricked, and the reason they were asking that was because they had looked at vict Schauberger's work, they had looked at Nikola Tesla's life and all geniuses working in free energy, essentially, and levitation devices and all kinds of really interesting things. But the end of their lives was so terrible they died in awful situations and their work was taken and could be used for more nefarious reasons. And so this person was saying, if we have a world of technology with water of which I really hope we do can it just be manipulated? That was the reason I agreed to do it, and so you asked about questions. This is one of my questions. I simply said to the water can you please show me something that's so beautiful Like it wasn't so much a question, it was a conversation something so beautiful and it's just between me and you. You know I'm not going to share it with anyone, and I immediately froze it before the guilt set in, because I'm not a natural born liar, and so I knew that I was going to share it with that person that asked me and I knew it was an intentional lie what I had done, but I had to do that to try to see whether it would respond how it would know. Sure, and so I'm feeling all this guilt outside the freezer, thinking I wish I had known, done this. You know, I feel really bad.
Speaker 2:I was working with spring water. I was thinking it's probably really disordered now all of this while it's in the freezer, and so I didn't even want to pull it out. Eventually I took it out and there was some disorder. But there were two letters in the ice. That spelt word and that word was known. Is in the ice. They spelt word and that word was known, and it was quite shocking to me because there was such a clear response and then water wouldn't design with me for an entire week and I thought I completely blotted wow, oh wow.
Speaker 1:I love this. So you are literally talking to a living being with personality and you know healthy boundaries.
Speaker 2:Well, I want to extend what happened. And I was thinking I know water's not judging me. This is not a judging thing. Water is not of that quality, it's more of an observer. I've seen that too many times to deny that. You know what changed. I was so wracked with guilt when the owner it changed with me. When I forgave myself for doing that, water started playing with me again and water was reminding me that forgiveness is a superpower so can I ask how you forgave yourself?
Speaker 1:because this is really interesting, because people have challenges about forgiveness and sometimes go through years with unforgiving or non-forgiveness. How did you forgive yourself?
Speaker 2:Well, I knew why I did it.
Speaker 1:What was your process?
Speaker 2:You knew that you felt guilty, but how did you release that? I released it because I realized that the only reason I had done it was for a greater good, yeah, and that my intention was really to see whether or not the world could be a better place working in this field. I also acknowledge that people make mistakes and that we are allowed to forgive those mistakes. So, as much as we can be the hell in our body, we can be the heaven, and I was able to let it go and I thought well water, accept me as I am, with all of my flaws and all of my stuff.
Speaker 1:Did you say that? Did you say that water accept me as I am? Did you Brilliant?
Speaker 2:I'm transparent to you, I cannot hide from you. Therefore, I am what to you I cannot hide from you. Therefore, I am what I am and that's what I do.
Speaker 1:I am what I am because you know, those words are very powerful and that was the first thing you said is, when we go back to that question was who am I or who are you? And I am so, okay, that's pretty magical that response, that conversation. So it was a week before you. Uh, it started playing with you again, was it?
Speaker 2:well, you know it was like I think it was also a realization is that I was thinking that water was angry at me and that was the wrong way to think, because that is not ever, ever been my experience. In the same way that hydroglyphs began because my son read a motos book when he was like 11 or 12 12, and came to me and said mom, I think water hates me. I'm like why? And he said because water only likes John Lennon in classical music and it hates heavy metal. Therefore it hates me and I'm like but I don't think you liked heavy metal. He said I don't. But it also indicates that water hates swearing and therefore water hates me because I like Tupac and Tupac swears.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, oh, there is a danger in the contrasts, because so much of life has so many things in between, and that, in his mind, suggested that water didn't like things or it was choosing, and I get, I don't know, I can't tell you how many times people have asked me to engage in the conversation of water, the certain brands of water, a particular brand of water that has all kinds of words like death and stuff on it, and they're saying, oh, it must be disordered, it must be terrible, it must be this, it must be that and it's all our own ideas. But water outside of the human body is far different than inside of the body. It is released from the attachments, the fears, the concepts, the ideas, so we get this real purity within it and within all of that. Anyway, I can really go off topic, I think. But we come back to its essence and what I realized was that water is not judging me, I'm judging me, and that is always the issues that we have.
Speaker 2:Our issues tend to come from our overthinking about things from the past or overthinking about things that might happen, rather than being in this present moment, being grateful for the fact that we actually can move, we can breathe, we are not on life support.
Speaker 2:We have the ability to go walk in the forest or whatever things are there to just stay in an attitude of gratitude keeps you in that moment, and so I've always said I thought heaven and hell were within us, and we can get to choose which one we're going to be in by what we are going, where we put our energy and where we put our light. It's like that American Indian proverb around the the two wolves that are constantly in battle and the one that's going to win is the one that you feed. And those two wolves are the ones of which are essentially kind of the thinking of positivity or the thinking of negativity, and it's all the same thing. And so what I'm seeing with water is that the forgiveness part it's kind of like water is like this reflection of a divine love whereby you're not being judged, because we do a great job of judging ourselves really well. Ask anybody who's ever mucked up something.
Speaker 1:You know we all make mistakes but at the same time, you know, we also judge others and we are sometimes unaware that we're judging and get caught in judgment and in doing so we disconnect from our own energy, our own life force for a moment or two, and I call it the green light, red light syndrome. So you don't realize. But that judgment just sticks you in the red light category, where you're not getting flow. And when we like to think about water, we like to think about a fluidity, and the green lights, for me, resemble that flow, and when we're caught in judgment it's kind of like we stop that flow for the moment well, you never know what somebody's gone through to get to the point where they might be behaving the way that they are for sure there was.
Speaker 2:The last thing I would say has been a really helpful healing thing that a lot of people can also do. Um, it would be. I used to have a wellness center and I I have some gifts of healing. I no longer have this. It's been a long time since I had that, but I I did this thing called it sounds awful, but like electrical acupuncture. So I I was able to put what felt like a bit of an electrical charge, uh, onto into people.
Speaker 2:I'm able to see energy around living things and I would focus on wherever there was like a dull yellow color, because that was the area where things were stuck or there was sickness or the potential of sickness. It was often stemming from emotional things not being able to be moved, like being stuck. Not being able to be moved, like being stuck, not being able to let go or forgive. Now the patient would be lying down and I would say, okay, and this is particularly good for people that don't like to talk about their problems, which is a lot of people actually. They really would rather just not, and so I would see that dull yellow color often around the pericardium of the heart. And my daughter is very wise, beyond her years, and she said, mommy, you know we have the weather inside of us. So when she was really upset, I remember she was like four and she said, mommy, and she was crying, mommy, I'm raining, and I really loved the way she saw things, but it made me think further and think. I think. Firstly, I think there are more phases to water than four. I think there are many more.
Speaker 2:I did a podcast with Robert Edward Grant in the last few months and he agrees mathematically, there must be more phases to water, and I think one might well be a vibrational type of vapor that's directly connected to consciousness or the spirit and soul. Anyway, that's a separate thing. So this idea, then, is that we have all of these different stages of water, or phases of water, in a subtle level within our own body. Water or phases of water in a subtle level within our own body, and because I see so much emotional things get stuck around the heart, um, I see it as an ice wall, it's like, and I feel it in my hand and sensitively as cold, as freezing cold and I'm often drawn there. There's a sometimes it's other places, but it's usually around the heart. And so I say to these people okay, imagine that my hand is the sun and that around your heart is this ice, and the aim is that we are going to slowly, quickly, however it works melt the ice, and people can do this for themselves. So you get your hand, you get it, all the energy goes through into your hand and, imagining that it's the sun, and you place it over or on the heart until you start to feel this melting. And I can feel it because I'm sensitive. But people can also. It told me that they also can kind of feel this and I watch as their stomach starts to get bigger and they get more and more uncomfortable because they need to go to the bathroom. It's actually really quite quick how fast it works once the melting happens.
Speaker 2:The actual melting part can take a little while, and once they've gone to the bathroom, they usually come back and they say you know, I can't believe how much I just urinated.
Speaker 2:I know I didn't drink that much water.
Speaker 2:I don't normally go to the bathroom for that long, but it was like this flood just came out of me, and so I've done it for myself, I've done it for many, many people, and if you visualize that you have all these different states of water and that where you are holding on to with your pain is where your pain is, that it can form and get stuck as ice in the most uncomfortable uh phase, for water as a as a living energy is ice because it's not really moving very much, only in minute, little tiny areas perhaps.
Speaker 2:So to be able to let it melt in, the melting releases all of the information and it is able to become a liquid and then to flow through the body. So this has been a very, very simple and helpful thing that I've found relating to water. And then you drink water that you've infused with all your love and your kindness. You know it's like I think things can be very simple. We make things very complicated. Everything I've just shared with you is basically free, but it requires you to show up for you yeah, it's like what are you bringing to the table?
Speaker 1:what are you, yeah, able? Um, that has been enlightening speaking with you. Thank you for sharing your insights and your work with regards to water and the mystery behind water and no doubt will always remain a mystery, because it's that beautiful energy that we won't ever truly understand, and maybe it's not our job to understand, maybe it's just our job to be thankful for that. We have this beautiful mystery that we use every single day but sometimes just negate its beautiful simplicity. If people wanted to know a little bit more about your work, I'm going to have all the links to your website and your tours and your book underneath. But is there anything that you'd like to share for people to take away? Maybe to consider about water that you haven't mentioned, that you just think, hey, this is something that you can take away and, even though you've done these wonderful in-depth studies, just another simple way to take away.
Speaker 2:I think one of the most helpful things that I find, and that I share with adults and children alike, is that, by molecular count, not by volume, you're 99% water, and there are more water molecules in your body than all of the stars in the perceivable universe, and every single one of those molecules is emitting more light than anything else. So you are walking already in this path of light simply by being a container of water, salts, minerals and consciousness. Everything that you have been looking for outside of yourself, it really is within you, both physically, emotionally, spiritually, practically. Our eye lens is 99% water. We are seeing the world through this lens of water. We talk about water as a mystery.
Speaker 2:The fact that we don't know very much about water means we're still learning about ourselves, and what I've seen is that water reads potentials. So when I put a seed into the water, I don't see the seed in the crystallography, I see the outcome of the seed. I see, for example, if I use an apple seed, I see the apple. If I put a sunflower, I see the sunflower. If I see a apple, if I put a sunflower, I see the sunflower. If I see a flaxseed, I see the outcome of the flax pods. Water is reading your highest potential constantly. It's already seen you in your most formed and expansive state.
Speaker 2:The more we go into the study of water, the more it is that we go into the study of self and the study of spirit.
Speaker 2:And when we actually and I always say if we could all see how water sees us, we would stop looking in the mirror, going I wish I could look like so-and-so or I wish I didn't have this wrong with me, all of the things that we nitpick at ourselves, what it just sees us as we are and it sees through the skin. You know, I say to children at schools, when I go into school and do a mix of science and art projects with them, I say, if your skin was invisible and your organs were see-through, what would you look like? And they always come back as rivers and streams and waterfalls and tributaries, and one boy said he looked like a brain-shaped cloud with electrical rain shining down in the shape of a person. I think about all of the things that water has taught me, like transparency, like non-judgment, like light and love and inspiration and imagination and dreaming, and I realized that actually everything that is alive has water within it and the marriage of salt and water.
Speaker 2:That's such an intimate thing I could speak for a long time on but, I, won't, because we're about to end the podcast, but the thing we're made of salt is water and consciousness. From that perspective, there's also no death within that. Water doesn't die, it only goes from one state to another state. It's only ever transitioning from one thing to another. Salt well, you put salt into water, it disappears. You could say it's gone. But when the water leaves, oh, there's the salt crystal still there. When someone is cremated, the ashes are actually salt, so it doesn't even quote-unquote die when you burn it.
Speaker 2:And then consciousness, oh, clearly, science still can't even figure out what exactly that is. So we're made of water, salts, minerals and consciousness, these immortals. And for me, water takes even the, these worldly fears. I still have some, of course, but it has so helped me when you, when you work in the field of water and you study it, philosophically and physically, things change and you can't help it. It just does in a positive way. And I do hope that in the future I can see that there already are many, many things that are going on and I know what they are behind the scenes to have a world of technology, of water. We're really looking towards a future that can be something very bright. So, within all of these aspects and the fact that I do think water is the house of the divine, then you are a house of the divine, and inside of the water is the divine and inside of you is exactly that too, and that's everyone in all life. So hopefully that's a little something, something for people to take away.
Speaker 1:Thank you, veda. Thank you for sharing and how eloquently spoken about this beautiful source of life, water that we often take for granted. But now we can appreciate, perhaps after listening to you, at an even more profound level than just the way we see it as just something you bathe in or brush your teeth in or drink. Thank you so much for being on the show, veda. Austin is this week's super soul model.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much.
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