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Health & Fitness Redefined
Health and Fitness Redefined with Anthony Amen. Take a dive into the health world as we learn how to overcome adversity, depict fact vs fiction and see health & fitness in a whole new light.Fitness Is Medicine
Health & Fitness Redefined
Embracing Resilience: From Tragedy to Triumph and Finding Clarity in Solitude
Life is too fleeting to be lived in distraction. Alex shares her journey from tragedy to triumph, illustrating how embracing boredom and reflection led her to self-discovery and purpose after losing her fiancé. This episode encourages listeners to confront their realities, let go of what holds them back, and find clarity in stillness.
• Alex's journey from running to yoga
• The impact of terminal illness on personal growth
• Understanding the 'Two by Four Moments' in life
• The struggle to let go of loved ones
• The dynamics of loss in various forms
• Importance of embracing all emotions
• Exploring boredom as a catalyst for change
• The necessity of a reflective practice
• Finding light amid darkness and grief
• Cultivating self-awareness through stillness
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Hello and welcome to how to Finish Redefined. I'm your host, anthony Amand. Today we have another awesome guest, alex, on in our brand new 2025 season. Wow, five years. I still I'm going to say that every episode, but I told myself when I started the show going a year, it's way past that. Here we are five weeks later. Anyway, without further ado, we're going to talk about Alex. Alex, welcome to the show and tell the audience a little bit about yourself and how you got into the health and fitness world.
Speaker 2:Thank you, happy New Year and congrats on your five years. That's no small milestone, so you should be really proud of yourself. Congrats on your five years. That's no small milestone, so you should be really proud of yourself.
Speaker 2:I have not always been super into health and fitness. I eventually became a runner in my late 20s and I was living in Chicago and ran the Chicago Marathon to prove to myself I had some level of discipline. I'm proud to say that I finished and I don't care how long it took, period the end. So I was one and done there. But just kind of the physical toll that running was taken on my body led me to the yoga studio and I got really hooked into hot power yoga and practiced I don't know, five, six days a week and just absolutely loved it and it was totally in the physical for me. So I don't know how many listeners are in the yoga world, but yoga has a couple of different components to it. There's certainly a physical element, but there's a lot of mental and emotional benefits to the practice as well.
Speaker 2:And in the midst of my yoga addiction I became the primary caregiver for my fiance who was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. And as I entered that space of you know totally life altering. You know you're one way and you wake up and you're another way when you go to bed. The only thing that I could do consistently for me was yoga and it was during that time when I say yoga's higher power really struck.
Speaker 2:I didn't have the power, I didn't have the endurance and you know, any of that physicality to really like chaturanga my way through the power. I didn't have the endurance and any of that physicality to really chaturanga my way through the class. I could really show up and lay there and it was kind of this profound moment when a teacher gave me permission and the invitation to show up in any way, shape or form. I was in the moment to simply be no judgment, no expectation, just the studio is my home, and to keep going and fast forward. About six years later, five years later, I opened up a yoga studio in Palm Desert, california. A lot, career-wise kind of happened in the middle, but I think the seed that was planted as I was given that permission to just show up and be really came to life when I opened the doors of Soul Dive Yoga in 2022.
Speaker 1:What a story? Is he still alive today or no?
Speaker 2:He's not so. He passed us over two years ago. He actually died the day that I was given the keys and took possession of the space that is now the studio. Wow, yep.
Speaker 1:That must have been not a fun day. A little shit yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's tough. No-transcript it sure as hell isn't right now. So it was tough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that must've been just the experience of going through it all. Most people would have just shut down, put their head down and disappeared Like that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we've all had. I coined them two by four moments. It's the first chapter of my book and it's just really that you know when you're kind of going along in your life, and I'm sure we've all been there where we've probably ignored a little tap or a little whisper I call them, you know it's angel communication or you know this subtle divine intervention, and we're either too busy or we're too noisy and we're just like I can't right now, like you know, I don't want to go there and eventually what happens is we get slapped upside the head by whatever the thing is, you know, and it's. It comes in many, many different ways, shapes and forms depending on the person, where you are in your life.
Speaker 2:For me, this diagnosis came and woke me up. It was, you know, ultimately this mirror moment where I was really faced with who am I and what the heck am I doing here? And as much as it had to do with him, and certainly life altering and life threatening for my fiance, it was definitely kind of a moment like that for me too. You know what are you doing, and if you keep going like this, it's not going to go well for you.
Speaker 1:So I mean, it's the realization how short life is and you never know when that is going to be taken away from you, either altogether or even in part. And it's something I've talked about a lot. But I just think it's mind-blowing that the people in this industry are like you and I. They went through something crazy right, and the ones that are truly passionate are the ones that should make a difference. Unfortunately had to go through something really hard. So as tough as it is for I'm just to use myself as an example, because I don't know how you feel.
Speaker 1:So I don't want to put words in your mouth but for me, the best thing that ever happened in my life was for me to get hurt, because if that never happened, I wouldn't be where I am today. I wouldn't have a son, I wouldn't have my wife, I wouldn't have a dog, I wouldn't have my gyms. I probably would have been in some dead end job and been miserable. That tragedy, like you said, slap on the head, get the fuck up and go. It was like okay. Then we continued on to a better path. So for you personally, hearing that, is that something you can align with? I mean, I know yours is great, it's a great loss, but just kind of get your feedback from it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's from tragedy to triumph, right, and we all have a choice. We can. We can fall away and drink ourselves into the abyss and ignore and put the wool over our eyes and, you know, kind of ignore all the things that are that are trying to get us, get our attention. Or we can wake up and we can choose to keep going and move through it and understand and learn and and as you, as you move through the entire experience, like dots will connect, you will understand the why, you will get more clarity on what you're doing. And it's in those moments of, I think, really true surrender that we can really get you know, through and beyond, whatever that life altering incident was, and and yeah, I talk about this with a lot of people because, you know, in these types of interview sessions, you know we're not in the same room, it's, you know we're not, we don't know each other well, and, and a lot of people say, what you did, it's like, oh, that was a really tragic loss. Mine was a little different, but I really mean it when I say this Death is death and, yes, there is the physical leaving of the planet, of, like what we know.
Speaker 2:As you know, you bury them and you celebrate the life. But death comes in many ways, shapes and forms. It comes in divorce, it comes in injury, it comes in job loss, it comes in moving across the country. It's happening all the time. And what we as humans are not comfortable with is the very thing that our life is guaranteed to have, which is death, and so we avoid it and we push it off and we throw the duct tape and the bubble gum or we put something that shouldn't be on life support, on all life support, because we just can't let go. And I think when you really get honest with yourself and you're like but it's fading away for a reason, and if we can just loosen the grip and allow it to pass, we're going to be so much better off if we just go through that uncomfortable process and it's not pretty and it's not fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just sparked a debate in my head. Talk about a topic. Let's break into that, because I think that's something I've never talked about on this show, and I think it's important to talk about People with significant others or not even parents, loved ones, siblings when it gets to that point we get to the, they're in the hospital, they're terminal, they're on life support. People lose their minds and they end up trying to keep that person alive, not for that person but for themselves, and they're afraid to push through when realistically we can say you know most of these scenarios it's better if that person let go. I talk about this with myself.
Speaker 1:My wife and I made a pact when we got married. I said if I ever get Alzheimer's, do not let me live. When I get to the point I don't remember you, it is not worth being alive, Let me go. Call it a day. If I ever get to the point I lose my memory, whatever the case may be, let me go.
Speaker 1:If I get to the point I can't walk and I'm in bed and I'm on a breathing sheet, let me go, Do not keep me alive. I do not want to be that person that's alive quote, unquote to be alive and she feels exactly the same way. And we panic when somebody else gets there because people are going to get mad at me, but I don't think I care. We panic and we keep these people on life support, not because of them, like I said, because of ourselves, because of our own insecurities, because we maybe didn't say I love you enough, and that's how we feel internally and it's selfish, it's selfish reasons that we do that and that that's selfish, not selfishness. Selfishness has tied into how we treat the medical community. So now these doctors and these hospitals are forced to keep people alive that shouldn't be alive and you're literally tormenting them.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's totally one part of the argument and I love that you and your wife are not on the same page about that, because it's sort of one of those fundamental issues in a relationship that you might want to agree on. But if you think about it in other scenarios, like just a relationship, like if you were just dating somebody and it's really not that great and you're both kind of miserable, but you just want, you know, you can't let go, you can't trust that something great exists beyond the good or the mediocre or even the bad, because you get so complacent and comfortable within that. You know what. You know that we're too scared to let go and move on. And I think that I think it applies to a lot how many people listening are staying in the job that they hate. You're getting up every day to do something you hate. Why, you know? Maybe not these listeners. There's a lot of people out there that are punching the clock because maybe they don't think they're worthy of something more. They don't trust that something greater exists.
Speaker 2:And this stuff doesn't happen overnight. I mean, I can tell you that for me, entering the space of my life getting flipped upside down, and this dream I thought was finally coming to reality, I met somebody. We fell in love. I thought it was finally coming to reality. I met somebody. We fell in love, we got engaged, we were looking at houses and then he gets sick. Being a wife, being a mother, all that stuff started to get lit on fire in a moment and what I did was try to save it. And we were talking about this a little bit before we got going.
Speaker 2:And when you get into those lighter fight moments, the element of control comes front and center. It did for me, because I'm not a. I'm not a fleer, I'm a fighter. So I doubled down and I started to grip, grasp and force and control anything I could in the scenario. I'm not proud of that, but I want to admit it because I think a lot of people can find themselves in this part of the story. It came down to the food, like what we did every hour of the day, like who, what, when, where, all the things, anything I could wrap control around, I would do it.
Speaker 2:And what that was doing was causing me to live in this fantasy world that it was all going to be okay and it wasn't. And I think that's where you know we talk about losing loved ones or leaving a job, or leaving the relationship or whatever form of death we become face to face with. We don't want to admit it's not okay. We just don't because we're wired for life, we're not wired for death as people. And the second we can get really honest with ourselves and say it's not okay, but it is. This is real, like this is actually what's happening right here, right now, and I just have to let go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that ties into a lot of different things. So you mentioned divorce. How many people do we know in our miserable marriages Is that light, like they look at it, and they don't love their spouses. They look for outside, pleasure seeking things, and they're miserable in their shelter. They just do everything they can to avoid being home.
Speaker 1:But isn't the point of going to a job, working, making money, to eventually have the time where it's just you and your spouse to be able to cherish your final moments together With the flip side of that, even refusing to look in a mirror about your own moments, together With the flip side of that, even refusing to look in a mirror about your own personal health and someone's complacent with I'm happy.
Speaker 1:And they pretend and they go online and they make TikTok videos of look how happy I am and meanwhile they're 150 pounds overweight, they have heart disease, there's so much pressure on their lungs. Their heart attack is just imminent at this point, but you're supposed to be happy with that and they're afraid. They're afraid to face the reality. They're afraid to face a significant other in life support. They're afraid to face the job they hate. They're afraid to face anything, anything. It takes tragedy and for people to like. He's like I like when you said the beginning of the show gets smacked in the head, so wake the fuck up to everything else. Yeah, it doesn't have to be that way though.
Speaker 2:I got to tell you I'm a stubborn. I'm a stubborn learner. I always was, as made evident by you know, by my life journey. But I do believe we, a don't have to stay that way and, b there are plenty of people out there who are tapped in and tuned up to the subtle invitations and hints, and I believe in the power of prayer. I believe we're spoken to by the divine, by angels. I mean. I've asked to upgrade my angel team hundreds of times. I'm like I can't hear you, I don't know what you're saying. Be more clear. You know, I don't want to take a hint. I want to like really know, and when we slow down and we can pause and we can create some space in our lives to like hear our own thoughts, we can be a little bit more receptive to the messages that are trying to reach us. So I don't think it's like oh, you're stubborn, you're going to be that way forever. You know, I do think with again, just being honest with where we're at can really give us a lot of peace.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so OK, I can go off of that. Take that back 100 years, right, or 200 years, and research has shown time and time again, the pursuit of a goal is the biggest definition of happiness and success in someone's life. So working for something and nowadays we have so many distractions, like you said, which is so true how many people binge Netflix shows? They work all day. They come home Don't let their brain think at all.
Speaker 1:It's always on, on, on, on, on. They crash. They wake up. They're looking at their phones, scrolling social media, back to work, still scrolling social media, checking their emails home, netflix, all the freaking time, not letting yourself be bored. Where that boredom, the brain starts, thinking about other things you start hearing.
Speaker 1:If you're religious, it is that it's taking time to prayer and it's technically like you're focusing on one thing. It's a sign of not being distracted, or it's meditation sign of not being distracted. It's sitting in a room just with nothing around you and just saying, okay, what's going on in now? Where am I presently? And that's what people used to do. There was no, nothing. There was literally nothing. You want to go from New York to Philly. It took you a couple days, so you're on a horse going down walking through the woods with no one freaking around. And what are you doing? You're self-reflecting, and that's when ideas start going and that's why a lot of things were invented around a certain period of time the biggest inventions and then it kind of tapers off to just a few people. I mean, realistically, there's a shit ton more of us. So there's a shit ton more of us. There should be a shit ton more people inventing more things, and so it seems to be the same amount of people. So many of the percentages are exactly the same. So it's the boredom that disappeared, and people are afraid to face boredom. So maybe the real key is the afraid understanding of getting in their own head and getting in the way.
Speaker 1:Here's a true story After my accident whatever, a lot of people know the whole story of moving on. Let's move up. Three and a half years before I decided to actually own my own gym. I was lost. I was in the same boat you were in.
Speaker 1:The injury pushed me to start working out, but I really knew what the hell I wanted to do with my life. I was going out drinking, I was being stupid, I was around stupid people Not a fun situation. Nothing successful for my life. It took me just be hitting 25 and having this like oh shit moment. I just wasted my entire life to go to my girlfriend's.
Speaker 1:My wife's house at the time lay on her floor instead of ceiling for four and a half hours. I'm just watching the fan spin and my life is just spitting and I'm just relating to like, wow, I got nothing going for me Just watching it. But what I noticed was after the first hour of just being like what the hell am I doing? I'm going out of control, that boredom kicked in and things just started clicking because I didn't have distractions. I had nothing around me that was pulling me a hundred different directions back and forth, back and forth, and that's when I really got the game together, realized oh, this is what I need. I need the turn it all off kind of approach. Yep.
Speaker 2:Yep, I couldn't agree more. And I had a similar moment kind of in the midst of my caregiving. My dog at the time was also on bed rest. So I had a human on bed rest, a dog, I mean it doesn't get any worse, it really doesn't. So I brought the dog down to this little patch of grass behind my apartment I was living in Chicago doing his thing and I was just sitting there and I had this small little moment of awareness that said this is the bottom and there won't be a time in your life where it ever gets any worse than this. You're there. That's good news and bad news, because it's nice to arrive and it's really nice to know you've arrived.
Speaker 2:But the gray area comes in like well, how long am I going to be here and what's it going to take to get out? And it's different for everybody and it just depends on how much you're really willing to surrender and let whatever's lit on fire just burn, just go. Otherwise it's like, ah, we try to put it out and put water on it, whatever, and really at the end of the day it just really needs to crumble. And what was happening for me is life I thought I was going to live was burning to the ground. My relationship was obviously up in smoke. The city I was in love with, being Chicago, was no longer the same. My career was about to drastically change my interests, my hobbies, my friendships, I mean all of it and it took about five years for everything to really just go down.
Speaker 2:And I remember the moment when I woke up and it was on my 38th birthday and I was with my journal, which is always the first place I direct people to do exactly what you're talking about Go get bored and write down what comes up in your mind and I guarantee you it's going to be gold, because this is the Google. 200 years ago we didn't have the, you know, we didn't need it, we just had to, like, think about it, just sit and see what comes up. And I remember on that day, things just feeling easier, there was a lightness, there was less grief, there was less and he was still alive at the time that this was all you know, kind of cycling and, um, it does get better, and I will, you know. I'll end this point with with three, with three things.
Speaker 2:And there were three reasons why I wrote this book and it's called soul dive. Number one so people know they're not alone and that's probably one of the major reasons you share your story too is because we can put ourselves in isolation and no good is going to come of that. Number two you have to laugh, and no matter how heavy and sad and tragic and how much you want to feel sorry for yourself, finding those moments of lightness and the things you are grateful for and the things you still have are so important and if you can throw a little humor in there, I guarantee you it'll help. And number three you have to keep going, and keep going in the sense of get up every day, get into your routine, stay devoted to your practice, just keep going. You're not going to skirt around it, you're going to go through it, but you're going to just do it day by day and that's it.
Speaker 1:I would add. I mean, this was my biggest motivator. Shit can't get worse. Yeah, what I mean by that is just like I can take risks, it doesn't matter, I don't care. That's what got me to open the gym with no money in a bank account. It was if I lose everything, go bankrupt. Everyone laughs at me. It's not worse than what my worst was. Like. Who cares? Yeah, fast forward to covid. I lost everything again.
Speaker 1:2020, march 3rd, march 16th, 20. I'll never forget that freaking day. I broke down for a day. The next day woke up and I went hey, this isn't bottom, the fuck you doing. And I made a game plan to get out of it. That's why I started the podcast. So you look at that and you're like if you hit bottom, there's always an up right, you can always work your way up. But the biggest million dollar question, which I don't have the answer to, maybe the answer is to get bored. I don't know how do you teach people that have not been in that situation Meaning they've never had. They feel like their life's great, they feel like their lives, they're happy with what's going on, but they're afraid. So how do you talk to these people to say you need to get your shit together before shit gets really bad, because we see people after shit gets bad, but I want to talk to those people before it even happens at all, to prevent it from happening in the first place. So how do you do that?
Speaker 2:I think I have a kind of a twofold answer. Number one when I talk to people that are young teenagers middle school, even college that are young teenagers, middle school, even college the chances are lower of them having this super dramatic life altering event, although divorce is, I think, up above 50% now. So, and I think that's pretty tragic for a kid. But I don't think you look at it comparing like incident to incident. I think you have to look at it relative to like where you are in life. So to me, the 16 year old that gets her heartbroken for the first time is feeling the exact same emotion that the 42 year old that's going through divorce is feeling, because it's not breakup versus divorce, it's uniting those experiences through emotion. It's feeling anxious and sad and heartbroken and all those things that come with those different experiences.
Speaker 2:So I think, once we take away this apples to apples you know, comparison of well, because this is what I did. I was like well, I'm 33 and I'm taking care of a terminally ill cancer patient. Who's like me? Nobody, boom, I push everybody aside. I push all the support, the love, the help. I don't need you because you can't understand what I'm going through.
Speaker 2:That's not the way, and that I will smack the taboo buzzer on every time I hear it, because if you do that, you're going to go through it alone and we as humans are not meant to go through these things alone. Outside of that, I mean, if you've lived this very charmed life, I'm stoked for you and I don't know any of these people, by the way because I think when we get really really honest about where we are and what we've been through, what we've experienced, our hearts have all been broken, we've experienced loss, we've gone through bouts of anxiousness and worry, we've had debilitating fear, and it can be in any category and again, the emotions are all really similar. So that's my take, that's my hot take on that.
Speaker 1:No, I understand. So basically, just everyone's been in certain situations. It's just crying is crying irregardless of what the situation is over. So technically you've gone through it because you've had that same experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're feeling the same. I look at the emotions and it's just if we went around trying to just relate to people who've had the same experience that we have, I mean, we'd be in a lot of silos, and so I think we can relate and learn from people who've walked very different paths yet have felt very similar emotional responses.
Speaker 1:Very interesting. No, I can see that, and I think that a lot has to do with how we learn how to control our emotions. I can see that and I think that a lot has to do with how we learn how to control our emotions, and then a lot of the times like just typical answer you're 16, you're going to cry a lot more than when you're 40. Just, you learn how to deal with depressing situations.
Speaker 2:So it's okay.
Speaker 1:If I take this, I know how I felt during that. I got over it, so I'll get over this. So I'll get over this yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I would say that I mean, I'm 39. I turned 40 in June and the tears are abundant and it's just, it's very. I think it's refreshing to get to a point in your life where you can just sit with whatever emotion it is and be there and then understand that it's going to be fleeting. And it's actually very easy to do.
Speaker 2:When you're grieving, like when you're sad and you are bawling your eyes out on the bottom of your bathroom floor and we've all been there it sucks. That's okay, cause you know it's going to get better. What sucks is when you're in that like moment of joy and you're like, oh shit, this is going to go away too. It's this whole practice of non-attachment and we learn it in yoga and we've learned it in different, you know, kind of areas, walks of our lives. But being in the moment, which is being present, which is something we do practice in yoga and other you know. You know meditations or movement practices, you know can offer that kind of one-on-one with being present, but not attaching to how you are right now, because in an hour or in a week or in a month or a year things are going to be very different. And that again, that surrender and allowing and honesty with where you, with where you are, is just going to help you move through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I agree, I'm not a yoga person like total, full disclosure.
Speaker 2:This dumbbell here isn't representative of a yoga mat.
Speaker 1:I've tried yoga. It's definitely not for me. I do like people that do it, but I really. What I like about it is the same thing I like about hitting the gym. It's detachment. It's, let me. You're taking time an hour, 45 minutes, whatever it is, and detaching yourself and you're focusing on one thing. I'm doing yoga. I'm focusing on me breathing through yoga. I'm lifting. I'm focusing on this one rep. I'm ignoring everything else around me and I don't have 500 stimuli coming in at once and things fighting for my attention all the time, especially coming through phones. I just feel like overwhelmed and anxious. So that's what I love about it. I think it's important. I love the breathing aspect of it, like bring breathing to consciousness. I think there's a lot more good for us than we pretend it does. Cortisol level drops from just breathing and doing it intentionally are huge.
Speaker 1:So it's especially important for those that feel like their life's getting overwhelmed to avoid the Google rabbit hole of hey, I have a headache. I went to the doctor. He said I have this thing I've never heard of in my life. I'm going to Google it and everything I see is just side effect death. And then I'm going to break down all that and then spend six weeks researching this specific thing and recharging the stories.
Speaker 1:I get so caught up with them, ignore everything else in my life and everything wants to tell me like, oh, you're gonna die, you're gonna die, you're gonna die. I'm gonna put myself in a hole when really you need to turn everything off. And electronics and especially ai and all that fun stuff now are great for what they're good for. But making it think for you from a whole and not taking time to yourself and not just disappearing and cutting off from the world is huge. I don't sleep with my phone in my room. I did for a while. Again, sometimes I go to the habits of in and out of the room because I can forget, but I noticed that when the phone's even in the room, that's when I wake up more anxious and uptight because I'm just waiting for it to go off.
Speaker 1:You know that like constantly yeah so it's just little practices like that that can help create that sense of boredom and getting comfortable with being bored. Um, I heard listen to a podcast and it's about jerry springer, and you know someone's mentioning what jerry springer used to do in order to write skits, where he would have a separate room for himself to write it. Everything was blacked out. There's no windows, no electronics, there's just one light and a pen and paper. That's it.
Speaker 1:And he scheduled himself to go into that room every day for two hours. It didn't matter if he didn't write anything, but he had to go into that room every day for two hours. It didn't have to write anything, but he had to go into that room every two hours. And he said that what started? What would happen is first you sit there, your tools pen, get bored, look around and then realize there's nothing else to do, and then all of a sudden he'd get into that oh, I need to start writing. And then he would start scribbling down scripts and writing the things he needs to focus on that was his practice.
Speaker 2:I think that's brilliant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the practice is. I like the word, the practice, and as much as I like yoga, and it's been such a catalyst for me in my journey. I don't care what you do as your practice. You can be into gardening, you can walk, you can sit by the ocean, you can journal. There's a million different ways where you can get out of the ring of life and tap into what's going on in your mind and body. And it's like by doing something else or by, you know, walking down the street sitting. It doesn't, it really doesn't matter. That is a powerful practice. That is becomes a superpower when you repeat it, and I think when people can get into that type of a routine develop just like going into the room for two hours or having a regular movement schedule or going to the gym, whatever it is. You are then set it, you're stacking the deck, so you're setting yourself up to be carried through those moments of great victory and intense pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I couldn't agree more. I think the key of this and we're both kind of on the same page is go get bored and that will be your ultimate cure, so you don't have to go through shit, trauma and depending on where it lies from, or even you learn how to cope with things better just by having that aspect of just turning everything else off and focusing on yourself, taking those steps for yourself, and then you realize, oh, this is actually what I need to work on.
Speaker 2:Oh, this, is more important and your priority starts shifting.
Speaker 2:Yep, this is super well-timed I have. I know I'm three hours earlier, so it's 3.45 in California In the afternoon. I know I'm three hours earlier, so it's 345 in California In the afternoon. This is my last meeting. I have nothing else on my calendar today and when this computer goes down I have a face mask waiting. I have a foot mask waiting. I might take a bath. My journal is sitting right next to me. It has not been opened yet, in 2025. Like I am stoked to be born, my dinner's already made. I'll just heat it up. Love it. I'm ready, I love that.
Speaker 1:After me it's dinner and hang out with the wife and kids, so that's it.
Speaker 2:It's beautiful.
Speaker 1:But, alec, thank you so much for coming on. I'm going to ask you two final questions. I ask everyone.
Speaker 2:First one is if you're going to summarize this episode in one or two sentences, what would be your take on message? Take some time to get quiet and go be bored. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1:And then the second one how can people find you, get a hold of you, find your book?
Speaker 2:Yep, you can find me on Instagram at Alex Sabag. My website is soulfulalchemistcom. The book is called Soul Dive my Journey Into the Deep. You can find it through my website, instagram and on Amazon. And if you are in Southern California and want to practice yoga, you can find me at soul dive yoga.
Speaker 1:Thank you, alex. I appreciate coming on. Thank you guys for listening to this episode of health fitness redefined. Don't forget to share this episode, subscribe, hit all the bells and whistles. We don't want to add, so we just do it off of you guys. Appreciate it all, bells and whistles. We don't run ads, so we just do it off of you guys. Appreciate you all. No-transcript.
