Throwback: The REAL Reason You’re Not Aging Well — And How to Fix It After 50

Throwback Episode: The future you doesn’t have to be fragile. We unpack a practical blueprint for getting stronger, steadier, and more independent after 50—without chasing extremes or living in the gym. With Graham from Renewed After 50, we break down why resistance training is the most reliable lever for better bones, better balance, and a better mood, and how a few power-focused movements translate directly into real life: lifting grandkids, loading groceries, and catching yourself before a fall.

We go deeper than the usual “move more, eat better” advice. You’ll hear how to structure a week around full-body strength, safe power work at 70–85% of your max, cardio that supports heart and brain health, and short daily blocks for mobility and balance. On nutrition, we keep it simple and honest: choose mostly unprocessed foods, prioritize quality protein, read labels like a pro, and use an 80–20 approach so health and joy can coexist. We call out hidden trans fats, discuss plant-forward patterns and lean game meats, and share easy pantry swaps that cut inflammation without cutting flavor.

Motivation often starts with a wake-up call—osteopenia on a scan, a stumble on the stairs, a warning about type 2 diabetes. We offer a stronger story: treat fitness like a retirement fund and start “banking” strength, mobility, and metabolic health today. The payoff is a “square” life curve—years of high function, then a short decline—rather than a long slope into dependence.

If you want simple steps to feel capable again, this conversation hands you the plan and the why behind it.

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Chapters

• 0:06 Meeting Graham And The Mission
• 1:00 From Retirement Industry To Fitness Purpose
• 3:45 Exercise Vs Nutrition: What Matters Most
• 4:54 Why Older Adults Need Weights
• 6:25 Strength, Balance, And Mental Health
• 7:20 Power Training Explained For Seniors
• 10:23 Cardio’s Role And Program Design
• 11:59 Selling The Why: Fitness As Retirement
• 13:57 Starting Late And Beating Fall Risks
• 16:31 The Exercise Longevity Shock
• 19:12 Motivation Triggers After 50
• 21:04 Choose A Square Life, Not A Slope
• 24:19 Food Choices, Meat Debate, And Inflammation
• 28:40 Systems, Subsidies, And Misinformation
• 33:15 Label Literacy And Everyday Swaps
• 38:44 One-Sentence Takeaway And CTA

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:06

Hello and welcome to Help the Fitness Redefined. I'm your host, Anthony Eamon, and today we have another great episode for all of you, especially the Golden Girls. No, I'm kidding. But without further ado, let's welcome to the show, Graham. Graham, it's a pleasure to have you on today. Thank you very much, Anthony. Pleasure to be here. We had a we had a nice little conversation. Graham, for those listening, is from Australia, and obviously I live in New York. So I'm talking to my future, and he's talking to his past.

SPEAKER_00: 0:35

I wish my past was as handsome as you, Anthony.

SPEAKER_01: 0:38

I wish my future is gonna be as handsome as you. So I'm going to win-win here, man. I'll be happy. I'll take it. So with that further ado, Graham, I know uh we're gonna be talking a lot about eating after 50, working out, all that fun stuff. But before we do that, how did you get into the help and fitness world?

SPEAKER_00: 1:00

Okay, so um in my corporate life, Anthony, I worked as a sales manager for a retirement community, retirement business. And uh I saw people in their mid-50s that were already frail and pre-frail. I saw people in their 80s and 90s that were still traveling the world, still exercising, moving every day, and and fully healthy. And I saw everybody in between. When I saw, in fact, a particular guy, he was uh in his mid-50s, a chain smoker, quite a handsome guy, actually. And he was moving into this retirement community because he wanted somewhere safe for his wife when he passed away. He's only 55. And I thought to myself, this just does not need to be this way. And uh it just motivated me because I've been into fitness ever since I could walk unassisted, ever since I was a little boy. And uh I said to this guy, I said, Um, you know, it doesn't need to be this way. We've got gyms and things in here when you come in. And that's one reason, largely the reason why I got involved, seeing people that were that had sat on the shelf, um, sat on the couch eating ice cream and jelly for 10, 15, 20 years, and had an accumulation effect because of that. And then uh that's hard to reverse when that happened. So I thought I can make a contribution here. And I formed Renewed After 50 about uh, well, I formed it in 2012, but actually really revved it up uh during COVID, actually, or just before COVID in 2018.

SPEAKER_01: 2:35

Love it. So you kind of projected right into the fitness moment. I I know obviously you're working at retirement, Kitty, so that got you into working with that age population. So, first off, I agree with your observation off the bat. I have seen 87-year-olds that look better than 45-year-olds. Yes, and I wish that was an exaggeration, but it just kind of shows how important it to me. The biggest commonality is exercise. Would you agree?

SPEAKER_00: 3:07

I I do. Um, the other thing that came to my mind as you were just responding then is the level of obesity in our world. I know that our percentage of obesity is about the same as what it is in your country, and uh that's because of that accumulation effect, eating the wrong things for too long. Um, so I I actually believe nutrition is number one, but it goes hand in hand with exercise. Um, one's no good without the other. Um, yeah, because if you've got a good diet and you're not exercising, you're going to finish up with poor posture, you're my joints and so forth. So, some weight resistance exercise with some cardio is absolutely what's required as we get older.

SPEAKER_01: 3:48

Yeah, there's a lot of cool research coming out of it, especially with that population as we get more interested in it. First and foremost, weightlifting, which was the bane of that population's existence in the beginning, where I don't want to go lift weights with those 30-year-olds throwing in teenagers, but it's been shown that that actually that group needs that more than the 18, 20-year-olds really do. When you start looking inside of a human body when it comes to osteoarthritis, right? The cure to osteoarthritis is weight training, the cure to osteopenia and osteoporosis is weight training. Yes, so all of these things have tied back just to simply lifting weights and adding in resistance training.

SPEAKER_00: 4:34

Look, I couldn't agree with you more. It actually goes further than that, I think. Um, weight resistance training pushes back against heart disease, stroke. Um uh falls, falls is the greatest killer of people in the age group, 75 and above. Uh, so balance is important. So if you've got a good core strength, a good base strength through weight resistance training, you push back against all of those things. Depression, it's been proven that weight resistance training actually aids mental health. So all of those things are uh beneficiaries of a really good weight training program.

SPEAKER_01: 5:11

Yeah, and I I know you've been saying late resistance training. Is there a reason you're going late as opposed to just general or moderate resistance training?

SPEAKER_00: 5:20

With with due respect, when when you're 75, you don't want to be doing um 100 pound or 100 kilo bench presses anymore. You nor do you want to do um you know 15 pound, seven and a half kilo uh reps, 20 reps of that. What what we need to do as we get older is do more power training, so uh so that you can lift the grandchild, so that you can lift the shopping into the back of the car, so you can lift the shopping off the bench into the top shelf. They're one-off lifts. So you need to do, in fact, I have a power training class for older adults, and we focus on slightly heavier training, but not really heavy training. Um, as we get older, whether we like it or not, the recovery time takes a bit longer. Um, the uh propensity to injury is greater. So we need to be a bit more careful, but but still concentrating on power training as a re as as a um it's a word for it, as opposed to a heavy weight training regime or even a light one, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01: 6:32

Power training for those that don't understand, just one rep maxes kind of deal. Because that's where you that's what you're doing when you're lifting a child, right? You're yeah, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 6:42

Yeah, sitting there, hold on, son, let's do 15 of these. Yeah. But what what I would do is I'd work out what their one rep max is, uh, you know, in a PT session, personal training session, and then I'd wind it back to 80% because you're never gonna lift your one rep max. But what you might have to do uh is your 80% max and and do do that five times and not overly fatigue. You want to feel as though you've had a workout, but you don't you don't want to have to have a workout that's gonna make you go home and and sleep for the rest of the day.

SPEAKER_01: 7:16

Well, some people might want to, so it depends. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's nap time after the gym. Now, anyway, but I just not to beat a dead horse, but cardio is great, right? We want to make sure we're doing some, especially like uh speedwalking, things like that are amazing for your cardiovascular system, but going back to weight training, you could do all of that through it, making sure you rotate your days with light resistance training and then going into more of a power training program. I really couldn't agree more. So it's very hard to convince people in that age group that this is what they need to be doing if they try to fight you on it. So, how do you overcome that?

SPEAKER_00: 7:59

Okay, so um two things come to mind. You talked about weight resistance. When you get older, weight resistance is king, followed by cardio, followed by some agility work, followed by some core core work, um, mobility, uh, balance, all of those things are appropriate for the age group. So, how do I how do I cope with and how do I um introduce training, whatever it is? I say to my clients, look, uh you're approaching a retirement age. If you're in your mid-50s, you're approaching retirement age, and I'm not sure about in the US, but we have a system of paying in money while you're working, so you could draw down on that retirement. It's called superannuation. So our people spend their lifetime putting together a good nest egg of superannuation. You might have stocks and bonds, you've paid off your house, you've educated your kids, and you come to a time in your life where you've you you've got all of this wealth that you can enjoy, but unfortunately you haven't banked fitness dollars along the way. So by the time you get to the age of being able to appreciate your wealth, you don't have the fitness or health. You might have one or two chronic diseases that um impede you from going on overseas trips or whatever. So I give them that analogy while saying it's never too late to start. I try and promote getting going as quickly as you can because you need to start banking those um compounding fitness dollars the same way if you've compounded wealth with your actual dollars.

SPEAKER_01: 9:35

That's true. We have a 401k, so very similar. They can build up wealth for retirement and uh just kind of add to that. We had an 83-year-old that joined four years ago, and he is now 87, and he can do a four and a half minute plank, and he has no, which I think is the most impressive thing. But according to him, the best thing he got out of it is he's no longer worried about falling. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he's like, I know I can catch myself, and if I do fall, I know how to fall, and to make sure I don't break a hip or anything like that. Because, like you said, that's usually death sentence for someone at that age. Yes, yes. So it just kind of shows you can start now, you can start at 83, you can start at 85, you can start at 90. You don't have to be like, well, I'm too old to go do something like that, which is why you're all the time. So it's like, no, no, no, you need to start now so you can draw out the rest of your life. Really interesting stat, and I like mentioning this because it's true, and I'm gonna reiterate if you took smoking, smoked cigarettes, right? And you smoked a pack a day every day for 30 years, you took that group, and that group went and exercised at least three times a week. Then you took a group of people who don't smoke, never smoked a day in their lives, and don't exercise. Which group lives longer?

SPEAKER_00: 11:01

Oh, that's a good question. Um that's a really good question, Anthony. I've never thought about that one. Um well, I've just got stop smoking, stop smoking in my head, but which group would live longer? I think the group that didn't smoke and didn't exercise. But the other questions, what's your diet like? Um, you know, diet has it.

SPEAKER_01: 11:27

They did a whole study on this with a thousand people. Yeah, they did a group, a group study of it. It's the opposite. The smokers lived almost twice as long as the other group. Really, truly, that's amazing. But on the flip side of that, the group that because they had a bunch of other groups in it, they had a group that exercised and didn't smoke, they lived even longer. Yeah, so it shows the power of exercise that we know, like you said, you hear no smoking, no smoking, no smoking. It was drilled in our heads how bad smoking is. There's labels on everything, right? Yeah, smoking can kill you. Yeah, actually, not exercising is gonna kill you way quicker than a cigarette is.

SPEAKER_00: 12:13

Yeah, right. Okay, that's amazing. That's really, really amazing. Because I emphysema is one of the greatest killers of um older adults going around. If you've been a smoker all your life and you get emphysema, that's a death sentence, a slow death sentence. You finish up running out of air to breathe. Um, in fact, in Australia, we're we're a population in total of about six million people, and six million of those people are older adults, older than 55. And one in three people have one chronic disease, and some have two or three chronic diseases by the time they get to 55-60. So um, and most of them don't exercise. It's only a very small percentage of people, as you would know, that have a regular habit of exercise. Uh, and the biggest reason that they don't exercise is I don't have time. Um, so uh, but yeah, uh it I could not agree more, and that is so surprising to hear that uh the smokers live longer. Maybe I should take up smoking again.

SPEAKER_01: 13:17

The moment is the non-smokers' exercise is the longest.

SPEAKER_00: 13:21

Yeah, so I'll start with that, I think.

SPEAKER_01: 13:24

I mean, but uh let's talk about emphysema, right? So that's something you know, and like COPD, people are always like, Oh, that scares you. It's like you're slowly gonna die, and you know it's a death sentence, right? Yeah, people get afraid it, and it's like, oh my god, I'm sorry you have that. But then look at the conversation for that same age group for type 2 diabetes. People, and maybe it's me and the groups of some people I've heard, they like joke about their type 2 diabetes together. Oh, you have it, oh, I have it too. And how much insulin are you taking? Well, look how much I'm taking. Type 2 diabetes is the same freaking death sentence as COPD is, it just kills you differently. But both have the same end result, and both are slow, torturing deaths.

SPEAKER_00: 14:06

Yeah, I I agree. And and because of the addiction, and maybe maybe type 2 diabetes sufferers are addicted in a way as well, but type 2 diabetes is more easily reversible than getting off nicotine, which is even more difficult than heroin to get off. So um, type 2 diabetes, if you get it early enough, uh go into a healthy diet, recommend a plant-based diet. Um you can reverse that in most cases.

SPEAKER_01: 14:39

Yeah, it's it's interesting to think about. So food for thought today, Graham. That's what we're talking about, right? I'm talking instantly, I'm projecting my future self. Hey, if you're gonna pick either stop exercising or start smoking, start smoking over stop exercising. But no, I'm never gonna do that. I'm way too addicted to the gym. So going back to the conversation, uh, bringing in like different things we could focus on as the age group above, specifically above 15. Understanding we're trying to have hard conversations with them. It's a lot to convince someone in an age group that this is something they need to do now. It's more important now than it was when they were younger in general. This is my question, because I'm not in that age group, right? And and you I know work with a lot of people are and you specifically are so it's like, okay, what is usually that come to God moment for people in that age group? And what I mean by that is what in some what have you noticed in people's lives is the trigger that says, oh my god, and you just start working out. Like, what happens to all of a sudden do they have that doctor come to the gym?

SPEAKER_00: 15:54

Okay, um a couple of thoughts. The first one is most of my clients are women, uh, and the average age would be 60. And many of my clients have got osteopenia. So they go along to their doctor, uh, they go and have a bone density test. The doctor says, Hey, you've got osteopenia. And they say, Oh my god, what can I do about that? And he says, You need to go along to a gym, find a trainer, and do some weight resistance exercise and build up your bone strength. So that's the first thought that comes to mind. Um, second one, there are chronic diseases. Somebody's overweight. Second one would be people come to me and say, Look, I've got this tummy. I want exercises to get rid of my tummy. And I say, and they're obviously overweight. So, do you have a refrigerator in your kitchen? Yes. Do you have a lock on it? No. Do you have a lock on your kitchen door? No. Well, get one put on your your kitchen door and stay out of the kitchen as much as you can, because it won't matter whether you come to the gym seven days a week, seven hours a day, if your diet's not right, you're going to continue to put on weight. So diet's the first place. So that type 2 diabetes, the doctor says, hey, you need to start moving, you need to get rid of some weight, um, otherwise you're going to die. Uh, and that that happens in this age group. The other thing that I I try and point home, uh, Anthony, is that there's a there's a thing called senescence. Every living thing on the planet is born, it matures, and there's a steady decline till everything on the planet will die. It's inevitable. In the case of a human, we mature about mid-30s around about, and then there's that steady decline. Now, the people that are exercising are going to stay with a really good range of movement, health, strength, uh, right, hopefully to the end. You'll wake up dead one morning. That's that's my goal to wake up dead one morning. Uh, other people that don't exercise will fall down, gradually go below the disability line, and maybe spend five, ten, fifteen years at the end of life in some form of care or needing. So, um, and that's the other thing I say, whether it's type 2 diabetes, osteopenia, um, which progresses to osteoporosis, as we know, mental health, whatever it's been, and I've had all of these people referred to me by the medical profession for all of those ailments that we've spoken about. And I say that, where do you want to be? Do you want to be in care for the last 10 or 15 years of your life or five years, or do you want to be as healthy as possible, stay above the disability line, stay totally independent for the whole of your life, and maybe only spend a short time at the end of life unwell or with some disease that eventually is going to get us all?

SPEAKER_01: 18:55

I I had a guest on I don't know about six months ago at this point, and you're gonna love this. This is right where you mentioned. He said, I want to live my life like a square and not like a bell curve. And if those that don't get the reference, if you had a plot, right, from zero to death, a bell curve is a standard deviation bell curve, it goes all the way up, you peak, and then you slowly decline. For him, you peaked best all the way alive, dead.

SPEAKER_00: 19:26

100% agree. I want to die as young as possible, as light as possible.

SPEAKER_01: 19:32

I I want to just not have to worry about going through torture. I mean, I watched people for five, ten, five, twenty years, and they just look like they just want to die. And I don't want that. I want to just like you said, in my sleep, quick. If I'm younger, it's fine. If I'm older, great, whatever that is, that's kind of what I'm shooting for. But I want to make sure that up to like seven days before I die, I'm still. Like hiking out west in Arizona, right? Or for you in central Australia in that heat, and people are looking at me like the hell is this guy doing? And I'm like beating my grandkids, like ha ha ha, catch up, kind of deal. Isn't that what life is about? We work so much, right? Most people get into the workforce 24, 25, 26, roughly. They start working 40 hours a week, they go all the way till they're about 65. So you're talking 40 years that you're really committing to your job. You restrict your travel, you restrict your free time, job comes priority in order to make money and supply for your family. And then we have this idea that once we retire, we're gonna do things. And we say this a lot when we're younger, when I'm 25, 30, 35. When I retire, we're gonna decide when I retire, we're gonna decide when I retire, we're gonna do this. And then what happens? You get to retirement age, you get close to it, and you see a part of the population stop talking about when I retire, I'm gonna do this because their health has gotten such a shit, and they just have given up on themselves mentally, yes, no longer a thought. And they just that's when they become depressed, and that's when you really see the mental issue step in here because they just give up and they no longer are enjoying talking about when they're gonna retire when they're only a couple of years out at this point. Whereas if you take care of yourself, you need control and you really put the work into it, and you're in that compounding health benefits, like you mentioned before, right? Like compounding interest, compound health, and you build up even over two years, you can turn your life around. You could be a totally different person, you can be spray, you can be mobile, and you should not have to worry about going out hiking, going out hanging out with the grandkids. Uh, food is a huge point, which we mentioned before about diet. I'm a big believer in eating to eat, and what I mean by that is you eat 80% of your diet well, right? Eating good. Yes, but if I'm gonna retire, you know, and I'm like out and I want to have a couple beers and I want to go have like a fried ice cream, I'm gonna do it because 80% of the time I'm good, yeah, and I can compound that over so that 20% I could be like, all right, I'm gonna go eat whatever the heck this is. It looks horrible for me, yeah. But it just to get the enjoyment out of life, you don't have to worry about the effects on my body.

SPEAKER_00: 22:18

I I hear what you're saying, and I totally agree. Um, too many people uh live to eat rather than eat to live, uh, and that's why we've got the obesity problem. Um, yeah, portion size and what they're eating and so forth, um, just not right. Talking about um going as long as you can, going up, living the square and then crashing down at the end. When I worked in the retirement industry, I as I said, I worked as a sales manager in the corporate world and I reported directly to the board of directors. And one of the uh directors had a father. His father was in his early 90s and he lived totally independently, he'd lost his wife, still lived in his own home, um, rode a bike. In fact, he'd only just taken up bike riding uh because his knees were aching running long distances, and we're talking early 90s here, by the way. So on a second or third bike ride, a long bike ride he was doing, he fell off or dropped dead uh on this long distance bike ride. Um, and he's um he's he said uh Simon was the guy's name that I reported to, and uh he said, Look, Dad lived a very, very healthy life. Uh he would have been happy going that way. Uh he was totally independent, looked after his garden, did the shopping, vacuumed the house, did everything himself, and he loved exercise. So the fact that the he died riding his bike, sure, he wasn't a good look when we found his body. He said, but he he did what he wanted to right to the very end and stayed active right until the very end. What a way to go. Um love that story. Yeah, so he was he was either 92 or 93 and took up bike riding after a lifetime of uh of running.

SPEAKER_01: 24:05

What a great story! See what I mean? That's what it's about. We just knowing you can do something like that, and then yeah, if it's over, it's fine. Yeah, and it become reliant on over-the-counter drugs and all this fun medical shit that we have to worry about. So, Graham, just to kind of get a big picture if you're how do we go about changing the conversation for people? And because we're we're losing the obesity epidemic, just to be clear. Like, I don't want to sit here and act like we're winning, we're totally getting our butts kicked. The obesity rate, especially in the states, goes up dramatically year on year. So, how do we change the conversation to teach people what we you and I already know? We're just bullshitting about things we already know. But how do we get to people that don't know and really turn them the other direction?

SPEAKER_00: 24:54

Do you know what? Um, you and I know at the coalface, right in front of our clients, because we see our clients every day, we know what to do at that level. And if you've been sitting on the couch, as we said earlier, and developing um a body that um has taken you 15 years to develop, you're not going to wind that back in five weeks. So you need to be patient to wind that back. We understand what it's like on a client-client basis, us to a client basis, but I think it goes far greater than that. I think it goes to government. Governments actually know what healthy eating is all about, yet they actually subsidize industries that provide food that we know that's not healthy for us. Um, I don't want to be controversial, but um, and I won't I perhaps won't mention the industries, uh, but there are many, and those industries provide research that that pushes back against any negative thought about their product.

SPEAKER_01: 25:48

But it's funny, let me hop in here to help you out real quick, because I know a stat for you. Most ultra-processed food companies are owned, and you can look this up by the old cigarette companies. Yeah, right. So you want to talk about addiction. Yeah, they are the ones that created the ultra-processed foods. If you go look at the owners of the covenant societies of the old tobacco industry, because they knew they were getting shut down, so they went and bought all these little companies. Go ahead. Sorry, I started those interesting stat.

SPEAKER_00: 26:22

Yeah, so let's let's take that a step further in that case. If it comes in a box, comes in a wrapper, it's not natural, it's been processed. Keep away from it. If it comes in a box, if it and if it's got eyes, ears, and feet, keep away from it as much as you can. Eat red meat if you must, in high moderation, once a week max, 150 grams. I don't know what that is in uh ounces in your language. Um, red meat. Um, all meat is so so high with um um what do you um medications and so forth that they we're getting medication. Um, what do you call them? Uh antibiotics. We are developing resistance to antibiotics because we're eating.

SPEAKER_01: 27:09

I'm gonna disagree on that just real quick because we had a whole podcast on it that actually comes out tomorrow, next day. Oh, this week. That's why I didn't want to be controversial. No, no, I it's fine because it's the same conversation. You're gonna agree exactly with what I'm gonna say. It's not the meat, it's the type of meat, it's the fact that we're going for cow, pig, chicken, turkey, right? And those are mass-produced animals. So they in order to get them out, in order to combine them on the shelves, they have to inject them, they have to keep them in shit-living environments. But if you went and ate real meat, and like I'm talking more what people call gamey meat, super lean, super high in protein, super low insociated fat, they're not processed in factories like most of the other animals are, so they have no antibiotics in them, they have no uh other resistance, and it's one of the healthiest things you can put into your body because especially as you age, you need complete proteins, and the only way to get that is through red meat or any other kind of animal products. So it's not meat, and that's where that study was for. It's the types. I eat a lot of elk, I eat a lot of bison, I actually ate kangaroo for the first time a couple days ago. So going back to Australia, so it's just uh types of meat we're eating.

SPEAKER_00: 28:27

Yeah. So I I am predominantly plant-based these days. Uh, and I found that when I was a meat eater, my joints would ache. I would have to have a rest after a day of heavy weightlifting to rest before I could train again. As a plant-based, predominantly plant-based, uh my my diet is um not inflammatory, it's uninflammatory. So my joints and muscles uh are such that I can exercise every day. Look, I I'll I'll come clean, I'm 75 years of age, and I exercise every day. I take, I'm doing two or three hours of exercise every day. I would not be able to do that if I was still a meat eater. I get my protein, um, I have to be honest, I eat a little bit of fish, but I haven't eaten any meat uh for probably 10 years. Um, I get my protein from tofu, um, nuts and seeds, all the legumes, uh, and and and in fact, there's there's um protein in everything that we eat. Everything. And I basically say we can cut out the middleman largely, the middleman being the meat. We can go straight to the source. You don't see any weak elephants, gorillas, giraffes, they're all very, very healthy and strong. And I'm very, very healthy and strong. So um, so I I respect everybody that still likes meat, but I um you know respectfully say, Anthony, I try and keep away from it as much. And processed meat, by the way, has been scientifically proven to be carcinogenic, cancer causing nitrates and found in like uh co-cuts, probably the worst thing you can put in your body. Yeah. So look at already I can tell you that I love you, but I and I don't want to disagree with you, but um, I I come from a different school.

SPEAKER_01: 30:12

Hey, it's all good. I have the exact opposite problem. I suffer from uh IBSD. So if I eat anything high in fiber, which is your seeds, your plants, I die. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00: 30:25

Well, then don't do that. Eat meat.

SPEAKER_01: 30:29

So on my diet is 99% meat, uh, with very little anything added. Like that's I will literally just eat like a pound of elk in a city. Wow, but it's awesome. I highly recommend, by the way, if you're having an elk to go try elk, it's phenomenal tasting.

SPEAKER_00: 30:50

And I have tasted kangaroo way back when kangaroo tail soup, beautiful.

SPEAKER_01: 30:57

Never had that. I only had I had we don't obviously it's hard to get here, so the only thing I could find was ground kangaroo, and I tried making it. It was uh it was like leaner than elk, which is crazy because elk is like super lean, and it's slightly more on like the gamier side, like venison.

SPEAKER_00: 31:14

Right. Well, you find plenty of kangaroos here. Um, they're in plague proportions down here out in the bush.

SPEAKER_01: 31:23

I've heard I've talked to a couple of Aussies that moved up here, and I've heard crazy stories about kangaroos. Yeah, and they were saying, What don't go near them? I guess it's more like uh when you're down south in the US, like avoiding the crocs, yeah, you don't want to piss them off on a anything. No, no, no. Total side conversation. Uh no, but I I really a lot of the things you said, I still like I said, I fullheartedly believe. And I think uh you really hit the nail on the head mentioning the government side of it, and I I couldn't agree more actually with you on that. It's the big companies that pay for these studies are the reason that they come out fake. And if you don't believe me, I I've mentioned this about 400 times. So if you don't know this by now, you don't listen to my show. But back in like the 70s, the US did a study on the obesity crisis because it started coming around by then, and they showed that it was high fats and foods that was causing the obesity epidemic. Yeah, and they didn't just prove that for about 20 years later. Like you remember, like for me growing up, it was all no fat this, no fat this, and it was actually doing a lot of damage. And then when you go look at the study, you realize it was sponsored by the Coca-Cola Company. So no shit.

SPEAKER_00: 32:43

Look, um uh cardiovascular health is a big one. And I won't mention the I won't mention the name of the the cardiologist, number one, because I can't remember it off the top of my head. But he was the head of cardiology in a hospital in New York, and he's a plant-based doctor. And he went to the board, the board managing the the hospital and said, Hey, we know what's causing heart disease, we can stop heart disease, we just need to reduce the amount of fat that people are eating, um, so their their arteries don't clog. We know and we know exactly what what's required. So if we were to implement this type of diet within the hospital and start promoting and educating people around this topic, he said, we're gonna reduce the amount of Americans that have uh heart disease. The the board of uh the hospital came back to me and said, What are you mad? Are you mad? How many people do you think are going to be out of work if we don't have these people sick coming in, needing bypass operations, needing stents put in? Um, you know, how many people will be out of work? The hospital will lose so much revenue. How crazy is that? Um, the head of cardiology of this great big hospital in America, he resigned from the hospital. He said, I cannot work in an environment that where we know the cure, we know what to do, and yet the hospital will keep on uh promoting you know crap food because they're being supported by you know some yeah, Coca-Cola, for example.

SPEAKER_01: 34:17

You mentioned that further. Uh, you look at foods made here, and then foods I think Australia is the same as Europe, where foods that you can buy here, like you buy Heinz ketchup, right? Yes, we go to here. It doesn't matter. Our Heinz ketchup is different than yours. Ours had like 15-20 ingredients in it, yours, I think it was like four. Yeah, so a lot of the substances they're putting into our foods are banned in Europe, Australia, other countries because they're known to be harmful. Bring that kind of back to what's going on now with the US politics. And I don't like getting into politics because people get all that doesn't matter. This is just important. RFK is coming in and made very clear the first thing he's gonna ban is red dye 40, which is a byproduct of petroleum and has been shown time and time again to increase the amount of uh ADHD levels and anxiety in kids, and it's the one of the biggest things found in candies and sodas because they use it as a food coloring, it serves no purpose, but then just a coloring of a food. It's banned in most of Europe, and we still have it on our shelves. And we're not only that, we're promoting it to kids, yeah. That I say, hey, have this. So that is gonna be interesting to see how things change here in the States, as he kind of hopefully, fingers crossed, really gets rid of those things that we know are extremely bad for you, yeah. And we don't even advertise either on labels or be uh it's just different, it's just overly processed bullshit. Anyway, that's just my take on.

SPEAKER_00: 36:00

Oh, look, I Australia is um the little brother brother, uh, the baby brother to whatever happens in America. Whatever happens there, we do here. And uh we we do have uh more strict labeling on on food products, but um 100 miles away from where it needs to be. Um it's still it's still a long way away from being totally honest. So um, but look basically, if it has, in my view, if it has eyes, feet, uh ears, eat it in high moderation. Uh, go into a fruit and vegetable store and eat anything that you can see and as much of it as you want. If it comes in a box, it's processed, keep away from it. Those three things, and uh, and you're gonna have a pretty healthy diet. Um, alcohol, uh, that's plant-based, thank God. Only a little bit now and again, in in high moderation as well. So um we talk about it, you gotta live, right? 80-20.

SPEAKER_01: 36:59

You have to you have to have some fun. Yeah, you definitely have to have some fun. And then there's the last point going back to checking labels, and I'm sure it's different by year than it is here. But you look at uh peanut butter, and yes, just another case study. Go to the grocery store next time, read a label. So the peanut butter industry is the one that's most against trans fat, the trans fat band, than any other industry. Yeah, reason being is they use it to preserve the peanut butter and keep it smooth. Trans fat, also called partially hydrogenated oils. If you read labels and it says zero grams of trans fat, all they did was change the nutrition serving to make it 0.4 so then they can list it as zero. It's still on there if you read it, and you don't even know that that peanut butter you're eating, you think it's healthy, is one of the worst things you can put in your body. Oh my god, trans fat kills you, and you have to be smart enough to go pick and look at a label and say, Okay, this one doesn't have it. This one ingredient says peanuts, so I can have that one and not the skippy and the pita pan that have all these partial hydrogen and oils in it.

SPEAKER_00: 38:04

Well, you're sending me right to my pantry to have a look at my peanut butter now. Um, I love peanut butter.

SPEAKER_01: 38:09

I don't know how it is in Aussie. I know that's what it is here, though. Yeah, I'll check it out. Yeah, just read that. It's usually the second ingredient. The peanut butter stays smooth. That's usually the reason. It either has partial hydrogen oil or it has palm oil in it. But either way, it should not be like that. If the oil should shift to the bottom, which by the way, hack on that. If you don't want the oil separating it, throw it in the refrigerator. It makes it a little harder to scoop, but the oil won't separate it out because of the temperature differential.

SPEAKER_00: 38:39

Okay, okay. I'm gonna check that out as soon as we finish.

SPEAKER_01: 38:43

I appreciate it. Grab all right, let's wrap this episode up. So I'm gonna ask you the final two questions and I say everybody. First question, if you would have summarize this episode in one sentence, what would be your take-on message?

SPEAKER_00: 38:52

Could you repeat that, please?

SPEAKER_01: 38:54

If you were to summarize this episode in a sentence, what would be your take-on message?

SPEAKER_00: 38:58

Oh, okay. Well, privilege is the first word that comes to my mind. It's been an absolute delight to meet you, Anthony, and and do this. And we've uh I think we we we we come sing from the same hymn book. Uh uh so we so that's the first thing. Privilege, we are like-minded, uh wonderful who get my message out in America, although I'm sure everybody knows it. People talk about, oh yes, I know that we need to exercise and I need to eat well, get enough sleep, get rest, have some social interaction, but nobody does it. So let's get off our butts, get out, get active, uh, and start winding back the clock.

SPEAKER_01: 39:38

I love that. And the second question how can people find you, get a hold of you, find your book?

SPEAKER_00: 39:42

Go ahead, give it all away. Okay, my website is www. all the w's renewed after 50 r-e-n-e-w-ed a f t e r five zero, the numbers dot com dot AU for Australia. Anybody contact me, I'll be happy to. uh show them what we do uh they can join in on my online classes if that if they're interested um and we actually have an app coming out uh probably February March of next year specifically for over 50s we're launching it worldwide my son and I and um so the people uh from 50 on uh can uh exercise in their own home uh lots of pre-recorded uh uh exercises uh become part of our community worldwide um close Facebook groups etc etc at different levels I won't bore you with all of that but if anybody said can you send me details of what you're doing next year um I would happily send them a questionnaire to get their feedback as we're designing uh finishing the designing of the product and then when uh when we start uh if they fill out the questionnaire I'd be happy to give them uh two months free subscription for to what we're doing so uh if you go into my website www renewedafter50.com.au and contact me I'll be happy to uh forward that information on to them I love it thank you so much Graham for joining us thank you guys for listening to this week's episode of how the fitness redefined don't forget to hit that subscribe button and join us next week as we dive deeper into these ever changing fields and remember fitness and medicine until next time