Quitting A Six-Figure Job To Build A Life You Actually Want

What happens when a “lifer” job meets a restless mind and a real shot at purpose? We sit down with John friend, accountability partner, and newly minted real estate pro to trace the unglamorous path from corporate security to building a business with skin in the game. No highlight reels here: you’ll hear about the fear that almost won, the detours that created unfair advantages, and the moments where debt and deadlines forced a higher gear.

John opens up about the comfort and dread of a well-paid role at a defense contractor, the chance encounter that made time feel dangerously fast, and the years it took to finally jump. We dig into why motivation fails and why disciplined action—tiny, consistent, sometimes uncomfortable steps stacks into confidence. You’ll hear how a construction apprenticeship with his father-in-law turned into a secret weapon for buyers and sellers: reading floor plans, spotting oil leaks, estimating fixes, and translating stress into options. That hands-on knowledge set him apart in a crowded real estate field.

Then we talk commitment. Two weeks into his new path, John took out a 0% APR line and poured nearly ten thousand dollars into Facebook and Zillow ads before he had a single closing. Smart or reckless? You decide—but the urgency was real. We compare notes on burning the boats, redirecting early wins back into growth, and saying no to “wait until” thinking. Focus becomes the hinge: one path, relentless reps, and a lifestyle that swaps passive leisure for energizing work—open houses over outings, private showings over pointless distractions.

We close on purpose and legacy. Anthony argues that purpose is the only reliable engine of happiness and urges reverse-engineering from the end you want. John centers the present: living fully now and becoming a story his kids are proud to tell. If you’re hovering at the edge of your own jump, this conversation gives you a clear map: act before you feel ready, pick one thing, fund it like you mean it, turn detours into edges, and keep your purpose close enough to power today’s work.

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Transcript

Old Friends, New Context

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hello and welcome to the Anthony Amor Show. Today we're gonna have a fun episode and we're gonna go for an utterly wild ride, because to my left is my friend slash best friend, John Cobartin. John, it's a pleasure to have you on. Thanks for having me. We've been talking about doing an episode together for a couple years now. Since I met you five years ago. And definitely jumped around like different ideas. It just didn't make sense doing health and fitness doing with you, but not broadening it. Yeah. Really gives us an opportunity to do this. And I want to really use this time because we know each other so well and we talk, I think I'll talk to you as much as I talk to my wife, maybe more according to her. To really branch back and go back and see how our lives have like developed over the last five years and those lessons that we learned and the things that we saw. Because people, when they start following me or following you, or other people else, they they see us after we kind of came up, right? They they they see us like where we are in the moment. Correct. Yeah, and they miss all those backstories. And I can say it all the time, but it's different hearing it from someone else being like, no, no, that's that's true. Right. So I want you to take us back to your perspective of when we first met and started talking.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Wow. So now, yeah, like you said, we're going back almost four to five years. Um, I was in a totally different space in my life and like my journey where I was um working my nine to five, trying to branch out, doing my own thing. Um, to now like I'm at that point in my life. And yes, we do talk a lot. And I think it's actually slowed down over the last couple months because of how busy I've gotten too. So it's like it's it's like a double-edges, a double-edged sword. We're like, you know, I'm like at that point in my life now where like everything's starting to, you know, really, you know, roll off and and get started for me, uh, which is really cool to see. And I'm sure you've noticed that as well.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Definitely, definitely um an emotional roller coaster.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

So take me back to when we met. Where were you at in your life and what kind of projected you into joining that group circle where we met at my house?

SPEAKER_00 2:15

That first time we met at your house. Uh well, we we were connected through a mutual friend, um, Matt Cohen, right? Um, so uh he had told me that uh he knew you, and um and I were kind of in the space of looking at rental properties to purchase um for long-term investments. And that's like still my long-term goal is to get to that point in my life. Um, but that's like initially how we how we started. And and I remember literally sitting around the table with Kristen or Kristen, right? Yeah. Krista, Kristen. Krista. Krista, and I want to say Matt. Well, obviously Matt Cohen, and then uh Mike. Mike, that's right. Uh so it was the five of us. Uh yeah, you had printed out pieces of paper of like, you know, just different strategies of how we can, you know, brainstorm different ideas and things like that. And I thought that was a really cool thing. I uh, you know, meeting you, you were kind of like one of those uh first entrepreneurs that I I had met that actually is doing their own thing versus you know talking to friends who might do like a side job here and there and stuff like that. Like you were like all in, and it was definitely inspiring to be around that table now with other people like that. Um, and it definitely like was one of the first moments in my life where I started to, you know, shift those gears in my mind of like where I wanted to be, not just where I was.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Yeah, and to give context back, it's kind of what why I started that

The Accountability Push To Quit

SPEAKER_01 3:45

group. I don't know if you know the reason why I started it.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

No, I did. Let's hear it. Five years later.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

We're talking, this is right after COVID came out, 2020 in March. And at first it was like two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, I getting pushed off. And as time progressed, I started entering this like pure panic mode. And I was just reaching at straws to try to add stability and make sure my mind was focused right. So I was like, how can I know I'm doing the right decision? It's so hard to do this alone. Like, let me get like-minded people together and use that as a branch to kind of stabilize my mental life when it comes to my business, because I don't know what the hell's going on with it. I don't know what's going on in the gym or the state. Let's get a group together so I can have some stability in my life and use other people as an outlet for it. So that's why I started the group for my own well-being.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Honestly, it's it's such a great idea because I mean, look where that turned out five years later. Like, we're such good friends. Uh, you're like the like one of like three couple friends that my wife and I hang out with. We love hanging out with you guys. Um, so like it wasn't only just something that we you know connected with through business uh mindset. It was also like a personal connection that we also made. So that was you know, good stuff, dude.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

I want to use it as context of your personal life to talk about what kind of how I saw. And because I think a lot of people can reflect this. And if you're watching, like this is something you're gonna talk to a lot of people about, and John's gonna kill me because I'm going right here right away. Okay. But John was working a nine to five at BAE, and he kept telling me he wanted to do this business thing. And as much as everyone listens to the show and gets to know me, I always say you can't be half in. You have to fully be in, you have to fully commit. And John would call me, talk about work, and then talk about doing investment, and we're like, John, you're still working for your company? And then always my first question is the point. He like would get pissed at me for three months and would talk to me and then start calling me again. And I'd still, John, you quit your job yet. I was trying to be that accountability system for you. Yeah, no, 100%. So why did it why do you think you had such paralysis leaving your nine to five? And ultimately, do you think that was the right decision? What would you tell someone if they're in front of you that's in that current situation?

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Yeah, so I I do love my story and like how I've gotten to my the point I'm at now. And like I'm just starting to build what I'm doing now. So um I had that nine to five. I I went to college, got a good education, left college, you know, worked my ass off in a few different jobs, climbed some ladders in a few different jobs. Um, then I ended up at uh a big company, BAE Systems, military defense contracting uh company. Loved it there. Um, I worked up that corporate ladder starting at 23. I was making $60,000. In like four years, I doubled my salary. So I saw the projection of where I was going. And I think it was like the first week I was there. I still remember the conversation I had with one guy. Uh, I saw him in the mechanic shop, and he was like, Oh, you must be new here. I'm like, Yep, I just started last week. He's like, Oh, I remember when I started, that was 47 years ago. He's like, just like this, it's it's gonna go by in a blink of an eye. And I'm like, Holy shit, I need to get out of this place. It was like a week working there. And I was like, you know, because it's like one of those lifer jobs. It's really good, really good income, really good security, great benefits, great, you know, 401k plans and things like that. Um, so that was really like what was anchoring me down of like why I didn't want to leave there. Um, I grew up, you know, with a father in the military and I had that structure of always having, you know, some type of fallback plan. Um my dad worked multiple jobs and you know, gave us a great life, you know, very,

Security vs Purpose At A Lifer Job

SPEAKER_00 7:35

very uh, you know, lived very well, very comfortably. Um, so I always thought like, you know, I wanted to do something bigger than just work for a company. But where I ended up was working for this company and and I loved it. It was great. Um, but it ended up becoming, you know, a drag every single day driving to work, thinking like, is this the rest of my life? Is this what I'm gonna be doing in 30 years from now? Just getting in the getting in my car, driving the same path to work, sitting in the traffic, thinking to myself, like, what else could I be doing? Um, so I think the jump to actually quit and do my own thing, like it took it took a few years. I was I worked at that company for just about six years. Um and in that time, like I just educated myself, read some, you know, read a lot of books, uh, watched a bunch of podcasts, listened to different people talk, met like-minded people uh that were actually doing it like yourself. And that like kind of gave me that momentum and boost. Um, I also found my, you know, the girlfriend at the time turned into my fiance, turned into my wife, now the mother of my child. Um, and she has that entrepreneurial uh uh mindset as well. So I think having that influence of in my life also pushed me to make that jump, take that jump. Um and when I went to go quit BAE, I actually had another job lined up for me um for $160,000 a year. And I remember telling you about that. I was like, wow, I can jump 40k, get into another job, and like kick off another career. You called me. Do you remember what my answer was? I don't remember for me. I can I could probably paraphrase it. Yeah, go paraphrase it. That's stupid. Don't do it, do your own thing. Is that what you really want to do, John?

SPEAKER_01 9:29

A lot. But like my point being, it's only because every day you would call me from work. I hate this. Why do I go? Yeah. So why do you still do it?

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Yeah, yeah. So, so now here I am. Um, I'm doing my own thing, and I gotta tell you, Aunt, I'm loving every second of it. I am really loving every second, like waking up to, you know, waking up at four o'clock in the morning or 10 o'clock in the morning. I'm on right away and I'm like, I'm doing my thing, I'm you know, making my phone calls, I'm you know, contacting my leads, I'm pushing the sale through. Like it's it's just like everything that I really enjoy. And it took me a while because, you know, you know, I quit my job and I started working with my father-in-law. Um, and my father-in-law has a construction company. Um, he does, you know, anything from a renovation, you know, small bathroom renovation to uh we built uh million-dollar houses in the Hamptons. And that was like what kind of drew me there. I my background is project management, right? So I went from project managing a um a system on you know F-18 fighter jets to managing, you know, multi-million dollar house builds out in the Hamptons. And that kind of like that was my other stability. So I went from one job thinking I was quitting to do my own thing, ended up in another job working with my father-in-law. And I love working with him. I learned a lot. I think it was like a necessary of two evils. Like I quit that job to get into that. And the background of the construction has really set me apart from every other real estate agent around because I can walk into a house, I can tell people what moldings are, I can tell people, you know, I like I walk into a few houses recently and I smelt oil right away. And I went down to the oil burner and identified exactly where the oil leak was coming from, what to do, how to how to remediate it, um, proper people to call, um, you know, an estimate, rough estimate cost of what it could be. I wouldn't have that knowledge if I didn't work with my father-in-law. Right. So, you know, if somebody wants to change up the floor plan, I can say, okay, this looks like a load-bearing wall, we can knock this down, we can do that. So it's a it's just a different perspective for buyers and sellers. Like when I'm selling a home, I can walk buyers through and say, oh, you could do this, you could do that, or you leave it as is, you know? So it's just a different perspective that I think gives me that level up, you know, rather than any other agent who's just gonna list your house or or try to get you, you know, to see as many houses as you can see. Um I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

I just really want to I want to pin this down because I know a lot of people are going through this particularly. What what fear held you back? And what fear do you think holds most people back from making that jump and doing it?

SPEAKER_00 12:08

I think it's a little bit of a cliche. Like everybody says, oh, the feel, the fear of failure. And I don't think you understand it until you're in it. You know, when you're not making any money, you have bills,

From Jets To Joists: Construction Detour

SPEAKER_00 12:20

you have somebody to support, you have a baby coming along, you're looking to get married, you have expenses to pay, and now you're like, okay, I need that paycheck to cover everything. Like I need to eat, right? I if if I don't have any money, what am I gonna rack up credit card bills and really like just hurt my, you know, my credit and everything like that? Like, I want to buy a house too. I'm living in my my father-in-law's basement. You know, am I just going to stop doing everything, you know, and really focus on one thing to potentially not make it and fail? You know, so I I think that was like the big fear of like having that constant paycheck coming in, even though I, you know, I quit my six-figure salary to make literally less than half of what I was making at my at my nine to five career. Um and even with that, you know, that s significant decrease, like I was just making it, like just being able to pay off, you know, the the the credit card bills I was swiping to, you know, for for car insurance, for health insurance, for food, you know, things like that. So yeah, that to your question, the answer is, you know, feel fear of failure and not knowing if what I was what I'm trying to do is going to you know be able to provide for my for my life, for my family too.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

So what do you think, like did a phrase this question better? What was what I was doing to you kind of like constant reinforcement and you also getting it inside, look, because you saw me, especially the years 2020, 2021, 2022 was my worst three years in business. Right. So you I this wasn't just Anthony being like, Life's great.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

I was like, oh no, you were like, This sucks. I'm working all the time. I barely see my wife. Like, you know, I'm struggling.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

What do you think? Did you think you learned lessons from my failures?

SPEAKER_00 14:14

I uh no way. You know, uh everybody talks about like the grind, like you have to do the grind, like you have to put in the time, you have to go through those failures to really get to the other side almost. Um, so I think I was like almost always aware that I would have to struggle a little bit. Uh, but then seeing, you know, somebody who I'm you know became really good friends with going through that, it was like a solidification of like, okay, this is this is real life, right? This is not like somebody telling me a story, this is watching somebody go through it. Um so yeah, I mean it definitely like it definitely was eye-opening.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Wait, is there any one valuable lesson that stood out from you that either you or I went through that you think would help people?

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Um, I think like the the the biggest thing is like just taking the action. I just saw something on on Instagram was like movement creates movement. Right. So unless you're actually taking the steps to get to where you want to go, you're just gonna be in that revolving wheel of like not doing much. Right? You're gonna think you're doing something, but you're really not. You have to take those steps, which comes back to you hounding me of like just go do it. Just go do it. And my wife always says, you know, um how how does she always phrase it? Doing something is better than doing nothing, even if it's the wrong thing to do. Right? Even if you think you're doing the wrong thing, doing something is better than just doing nothing. So I hope that answered your question.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Yeah, I mean, you have you have a lot of uh writers that talk about this where they don't set goals to go sit down and write a book. They set goals where they lock themselves in a room and they say we just write 200 words. Right. And they can't leave, they have no distractions, no phone, no anything until they write 200 words. Right. Then when they realize that when they start writing, they get in that groove state. Right. And people get stuck, and it's something I learned a while back waiting for motivation. Motivation is a farce, it doesn't exist. What is more you need discipline, and the only way to create that discipline is through action.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Motivation is tough because like I've definitely caught myself in like a slump where like you're motivated for a week and then things don't go the way that you planned them to go, and now like you're down for like two weeks, you know, and then you have to pick yourself back up. And really the only way to do that is like you said, just keep doing it, you know, create that momentum, and that's gonna bring you to the next step, and that's gonna bring you to the next, and then like it's just a it's just you know ladder effect, you know. I don't

Action Over Motivation

SPEAKER_00 16:45

know if that's the right word, but no, it makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Like, tie, I want to tie this into something because I think it's important. So you experienced two things that stand out to me that I think a lot of people will personally relate to. The first one we would kind of mention that was leaving the nine to five, starting something on your own and going to. The second one was the next step, and this is how I saw it in my eyes. You every week was a new idea. Yeah. And I don't know if the word that, but it was Anthony has this great idea. I'm gonna do this. And then next week I would call you, Anthony. I have a great idea. Oh my John. John, one thing. Yeah, just one thing. So what do you where do you think that stems from? And what have you learned along that process? Because I think you finally found your one thing. Yeah. And I think it's great to kind of segue four years from the two years of quite your job to the two years of bouncing around different ideas, and now we finally found a path that you're happy going. So, how do you how would you project someone quicker through that and give them maximum steps?

SPEAKER_00 17:46

I don't know. I I don't know what the quick way to do something like that. Like, I feel like you almost have to live through the the emotions of thinking you're doing the right thing, right? So somebody's, you know, it may take somebody six months to do that, or it may take somebody two years like myself to do that. Right. I think the most important thing is actually just starting, you know, a little, a little, like one step at a time. Like lock yourself in that room for two hours and start writing, right? Because, you know, it might take that writer, you know, two years to write that book if they're doing it, you know, you know, two hours a day or whatever. I I love the the I think it's the quote from Elon Muskie. It's like, if you take, if you give yourself six months to clean your room, it's gonna take you six months. If you give yourself one day to clean your room, it's gonna take you one day, right? So it's really, you know, my advice to anybody is just start doing something. Even if it's wrong, just start doing something where like it's pushing you forward to the next step. Because it's, I mean, this is life, man. This is this is what life is. It's just you you you gotta live through those emotional states. You gotta live through your experiences, through the things that you didn't think you want versus the things that you thought you want. I didn't want to be a real estate agent, straight up. I don't I did not want to be a real estate agent. I was like, dude, like nobody respects real estate agents. You know, it's you know, you hear people talk about selling real estate, and you're like, what anybody could do that, you know? It's something that's like a backup plan, if anything. So that's why I got my license. I got my license uh to really work with my father-in-law and do like uh uh fix and flips. And then I could sell the fix and flips and make some money on that end too. So I got my license. That was the goal I was pursuing, and just life happens, and you know, you make offers, they don't get accepted, and you know, you keep trying, and then you get an opportunity. And I got an amazing opportunity, the door opened for me, and I fucking stormed through it. Like I didn't, I didn't, I didn't like put put a foot in, see who's in there. No, like I fucking kicked that door down and I was like, I'm taking this. I took the opportunity, which led to another opportunity, which led to another opportunity, which had me generate ideas for other things, which now led to where I'm at now. So like I'm still early in my like my real estate career, but it's like everything happened exactly the way that it should have.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Well, now I'm gonna I'm gonna compliment you for a second. I know, so hold your breath. Okay, because I think this is important for people to understand because you I think you learned this lesson from me, and I know it's worked out for you, so I wanna progress. So you committed to real estate. You got into it, right?

Too Many Ideas, One Clear Path

SPEAKER_01 20:30

I'm committed. Yeah. Two weeks in, you called me and you said, I want to run ads. Right. And we sat down and you ran a budget through Zillow and Facebook. Uh, what was the amount?

SPEAKER_00 20:42

It was like well, my Facebook, it was like, I don't know, I think it did like $25 a day.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Yeah, what was on Zillow you were running?

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Was oh, Zillow still run.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

How much was that a month?

SPEAKER_00 20:49

Um, right around $2,500.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

$2,500 a month. How many deals did it close at that point? None. None. None. Oh repeat that. I closed zero deals.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Like $2,500 a month running an ad budget. I'm still running it and I've only closed one deal. Like I've spent around $7,500. Uh no, I spent more than that. I spent almost $10,000. I took an Anthony Amen recommendation. I opened up a 0% 12-month APR uh credit line, and I got I got granted 10 10 Gs, and I spent nearly all of it in the first like three weeks. Because I'm like, okay, if I'm gonna commit myself to something, I'm gonna fucking commit. And I'm gonna put my ass on fire. Literally, there is no option B. This is the only option out here. And I'm currently in that deficit of money. So, I mean, it's it's real life. Like, this is this is the shit that you have to, you know, put on yourself. You have to believe in yourself. You have to like, you know, take that leap of faith that it could happen. And I'm on budget right now. To close 80,000 for my first quarter of doing this. Hopefully it sticks because anything can happen in real estate. Um, I closed my first deal, I got both sides of the deal. Like that was a freaking solid paycheck, and it's gone. It's gone because I had to allocate money towards, you know, a little bit of money towards myself for credit cards and but it's not gone because I'm I'm filtering it back into my business. And it's yeah, it's it's kind of wild to get yourself into that position. And I talk to my brother-in-law all the time. Shout out to uh Journeyman Barber Lounge, amazing barber shop. Um, but I'm trying to get him in the same mindset of like, okay, take the leap. Like he wants to get new equipment for a shop and things like that. I'm like, you know, get you know, spend the money or put yourself on fire, take out the loan, do it, because you're gonna like, you're gonna freaking hustle. You have to get it done. You know, you at that point, it's not like, oh, maybe, maybe I'll do this, maybe I'll do that. No, it's like, I did it. How am I gonna pay it back now? You know?

SPEAKER_01 22:58

I feel like there's so many people are afraid to take that gambling. Even entrepreneurs, they still get stuck in that business owner mindset. It's oh, when I make money, I'll run ads. When I do this, I'll do this. And it they don't learn that lesson. I I remember Yao was on and I told him I signed a lease and I had no money in the bank account. And I opened the gym with no money in the bank account. And no one believed I feel like people just don't believe me. Yeah, they look at me and they go, Yeah, okay, you had no money. I was like, No, I was broke, broke. But it got me to go. And then you were there when I opened up my second location, and I used the economic disaster loan, which I could have I should have paid off my debt. And I said, nah, fuck it, I'm gonna go more debt and take a bigger gamble. And then you got to witness uh me using my wedding money to pay payroll.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Yeah, I don't think Sarah was very happy about that. No, she's still mad.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Both off the other day, still mad about that. But it's just like a wild thought, like people don't get like how much commitment it takes. And for someone like with like me, like

Burning The Boats With Ads Spend

SPEAKER_01 24:00

I'm probably undiagnosed ADD. I most likely have AD. Whatever, it doesn't matter, it helps. So it's just like in order to discipline myself.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Whatever's going on up there, it helps.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

It helps. Whatever's going on up there, it helps. Well, either way, like if that discipline of putting myself in such a hard circus to like figured out your thoughts, that got me focused. Yeah. I use this, I should not say this on air. Whatever. I speed every time I drive. Yeah, keep that to yourself. Hold on. And it's safer. And the reason it's safer enough, this is like kick. No, no, this is definitely not safe. Don't listen to what this guy's saying, right? Just a couple miles per hour over, right? Enough to pay attention. Because like that focus of now I had to pay attention because otherwise my ADD kicks. Oh, look, there's a flower. Yeah. Oh look, there's clouds up in the sky. But now if I'm like going, like I'm go changing lane. So I I see how you're gonna transition this into your mindset and how you work.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

This is not working every time. You gotta go thousand miles an hour. Thousand miles jumping.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Yeah, yeah. And it's that's why it's been so hard for me to find employees on my level because I just go. There's there's no slowdown for Anthony.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

Yeah. Well, I think that's the difference between like an employee mindset versus an owner mindset, right? Or versus like doing your own thing mindset. Is because in that employee mindset, which I was in for, you know, most of my life, is like, hey, I'm I'm looking, I'm looking to cover my bills and go have fun. Versus like there is no fun. It's you gotta just do like, you know, you just have to attack what you think is fun with life and go in on that. Like I enjoy what I'm doing now. Like, this is fun for me. I go to open houses and I go look at houses, and I I, you know, my wife and I go on these private showings together. I introduce her, she's getting her license too. And like, this is like we enjoy doing that. That's what we do in our spare time. Like, we're not, you know, we we watch TV and things like that, but like we're not going out to dinner all the time. We're not, you know, going into the city, we're not taking a lot of trips right now. Like, we're enjoying what we're doing. And like, I think that's like a great, a great thing is like do you know the key to happiness, John?

SPEAKER_01 26:16

What's the key, Anthony? Enlighten me. There's one thing that's been proven to cause happiness. Your spouse. No. Oh, but it can be. Okay. Spouse is the answer, it's purpose. Okay, purpose is called it gives you happiness. And if you don't have purpose in your life, it's impossible to become happy. And the people that are always looking and aren't working for things, and it doesn't have to be a business. It could be your purpose could be to raise your kids. That's your purpose. That's something you give all to, and you always want to make them better. That makes you happy. Your purpose could be like my wife, likes having a clean home. That's our purpose, that's what makes her happy. Mine's this. This is my purpose. So it makes her I'm driven towards a goal. And that purpose of knowing that I'm gonna have um some of those really cool both, like your immortal life. Like you're what kind of immortal life are you gonna leave? What kind of action are you gonna leave on this world when you pass? Because we're all gonna die. So what happens after we die? Your legacy, essentially. Yeah, it's exactly the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

Yeah. Um, I was blessed to like have a lot of entrepreneurs in my in my life, and and one really successful guy um turned to me when I was like 17 and he was like, John, what's your legacy? Like he was running his own multi-million dollar shipping company. He's like, he's like, What's your legacy? I'm like, what do you mean my legacy? Like, I didn't think actually I was probably around like 21, maybe. I think I just graduated college. He's like, What's your legacy, John? I'm like, I don't, I don't know, what the hell kind of question is that? But that was like one of those pivotal moments in my life where I'm like, wow, what's my what's my legacy? And that brings you bring brings it back to like what's your purpose essentially. Do you think about death? Um, not really. Why why dwell on death? No, it's not a dwell. Well, why think about death when I'm like focused on my life?

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Let me phrase the question. Do you think about what you're gonna look back for back on on your deathbed?

SPEAKER_00 28:04

Um not really. No. I I never think about it, to

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be honest. I've been I I I think about it in a different way.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

I think about it as am I living like my am I living a fulfilled life now? Like, am I happy with what I'm doing now? Versus am I gonna look back and say, am I happy with what I did? Like, I'm a very much in the now type of person, um, where like I'm doing something that's ex is that is exciting to me right now. And I think that's like my fulfillment. Like, and like I look at it as I look at it more of like I was I was um always inspired by my father. I thought I thought he lived like a really, you know, like really interesting life. So I look about I look at it as, you know, are my kids gonna look at me and think, wow, look, this is what my dad did. I think that is the aspect I look at it in versus, you know, um but finish the sentence.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

How so? I you look back, this is what my dad did, this is what I want to leave, as blank. So what's what's the follow-up as an example? I I'm on my deathbed, I'm happy, I set my legacy of a company where we truly changed lives and I changed the world as a whole and pushed them towards a path of greater. I I changed the fitness industry and left this for my son so my kids can look up and say, my dad did this. So, like it's finishing that sentence, it's giving it uh something to look at and then go look at the New Year's episode, right? My biggest philosophy is take what you want and work back. Now you're working back. So you look at what you want, break it out of your life, and that's how I'm gonna get to that goal, and that's how I don't look back on my deathbed of what I did.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

I think I look at it more of like uh, you know, what has my life been interesting? And whatever that may be, I don't know, like, like I don't have that goal of like being a Fortune 500 company. Right. And maybe I should. Maybe I should specify some of those goals. Like, I just wanna, you know, I want to have like a really fulfilled, I want to be comfortable in life. I don't want to have to worry about things like bills. Everybody worries about bills and financials. Like I don't want to have to worry about that. I think that's like my goal is to get to a point where I can turn around and do what I want to do and be interesting as fuck. You know, like the most interesting man in the world type of thing. Like ski, you know, mountains in Japan and Austria, and skydive and you know, build something from nothing, like a company. Where does what type of gold do I have in building a company? I have no idea. So again, I'm starting, I'm like in the beginning stages of where you know what I'm doing with my life and where I'm building it. So, you know, maybe that's the next stage I have to start looking into.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Well, we'll have to have you back on, do something else. Uh, John, I appreciate you coming on. I appreciate you guys listening to this week's episode of the Anthony Eamon Show. We're thinking about taking start doing these lives. So if you guys are interested

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in doing some kind of YouTube live, Facebook Live, we have guests like John on. You asked us questions, please let us know about in the comments. We'd be happy to do it and make it fun. Until next time.