Overthinker’s Guide

Big talk or nah

• Amber Poole • Season 3 • Episode 23

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You know that awkward first date small talk đź‘€ that goes absolutely nowhere?

 Yeah, we’re fixing that.🕶️

In this episode, Ronlyn an I are diving deep into the lost art of real conversation — because let’s be honest, connecting with people these days feels harder than it should. With more singles out there than ever and everyone hiding behind their screens, that first real conversation can make or break everything.

We’re breaking down 5-6 of the most unexpected, oddly specific questions you’d never think to ask — but absolutely should. We’re not handing you a script, but we are unpacking why they work, what they reveal about a person, and how the right question can crack someone wide open in the best possible way.

Because the secret to a real connection? It’s never really about the question itself — it’s about what it makes people feel safe enough to say.

Whether you’re navigating first dates, new friendships, or just trying to go deeper than “so what do you do?” — this one’s for you, girl.
Pull up, get comfy, and overthink it with us. 🎙️

SPEAKER_00

Hello,

Intro

SPEAKER_00

and welcome to the Overthinking Guide. Today we are here with Ronland.

SPEAKER_01

Hi guys.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I feel like you should just say hi. Just keep introducing him.

SPEAKER_01

Guess who's back this week? Yes, who's it's still not? At some point, people are gonna be underwhelmed, and that's not what we want.

SPEAKER_00

You're right. I'm gonna be like, Ronald, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Next episode, I'll do the intro. And then also guess who I'm with.

SPEAKER_00

They'll never guess.

SPEAKER_01

They'll never guess.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so today we are talking

Getting to know someone

SPEAKER_00

about um getting to know someone. Now, Ronden.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, you know me.

SPEAKER_00

Do you feel like you are good on a first date?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, do I? The second to like infinity after that, not so good, but first dates, I think I'm okay.

SPEAKER_00

I think uh you've mentioned it very briefly in the past.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe once or twice.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, so yeah, first dates you get to know someone. Like when you meet somebody and you're even in like a chatting kind of like, hey, what do you do? Like that first date, you really get to know someone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And the first face-to-face interaction, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And like this can go beyond romantic dates. You can have a first friend date as well. That's true. He could be like, hey, you want to hang out sometime? That's that's a friend date. That's true. That's a friend date, you know? And that's when you get to really know that person as well, you know. Before that there was like that. Right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I haven't even been on a first friend date in a while.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you did. Um, we had we uh had someone over in the group.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, group date.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was like uh we were the group was then dating the one person.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you didn't. Just making me doubt my questions.

SPEAKER_00

I shouldn't have. Whoopsie. No, it's fine. It's fine, it's fine. Getting to know somebody, it's fine, it's fine. Um yeah, so so getting to know somebody is I don't know, do you think it's people are bad at it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think people are bad at it, but I feel like sometimes there's like um, especially on like a first date, there's a question of how serious, like like people are too scared to get too serious. Ah you know, so they're like, oh, I don't want to ask about like your family lineage or anything, but like I want to get to know you. So it's like how serious do the questions get? Because also you don't want to like be small talking for like two hours.

SPEAKER_00

That's fair, you know. I don't have a problem. Um 13 years I guess you made a first place like that today with me. I was gonna say, I do meet people and have had to uh start conversation. Cause because maybe we were like, like, for example, sometimes in the staff room there'll be a lot of new teachers. Um they are like uh what is it? Student teachers. And we'll just be sitting alone and they always they try and like learn stuff from us. So they often like ask questions or engage, yeah. And so I'll have to like make conversation in in those settings, you know. It is tough and constantly because they you know they um rotate out. So it's like five people now, and then next term there'll be another three different people and then two of the same people kind of faces, yeah. And then um, yeah, just generally I'm I don't mind talking to people. I absolutely don't mind talking to people. I do get social what is the the social like your battery, your social battery. I do get drained, I'm not an extrovert, but I don't mind talking to a what do they call it? An omni omnivert.

SPEAKER_01

Ovovert? Is that um think of over vegetarian you can eat eggs?

SPEAKER_00

I'm an ovo communicator. Communicate, I communicate only via egg. I send messages via egg in writing of scrambled eggs.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, you no, you write it on the egg.

SPEAKER_00

Oh I would I would think I I imagine pulling out the yolk with the sedinge. Now, hey, we all and then going to the pan and then writing it out in like different like white and yellow and then sending you a message. It's kind of cool. I'm like a white page. Like a little white page, egg white, and then Jennifer message.

SPEAKER_01

Jennifer, this

Small talk has value

SPEAKER_01

egg belongs to. We should just have like one full episode where we only do small talk.

SPEAKER_00

Tough.

SPEAKER_01

That'd be kind of fun, right?

SPEAKER_00

Like I genuinely don't think we could do it.

SPEAKER_01

That's the challenge.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think we need to practice off-air and see because I don't want to be sitting here. And then it's and then it's like fucking two seconds in and we're like, yeah, you and I, this is dumb.

SPEAKER_01

What did we talk about?

SPEAKER_00

Um I don't actually understand small talk. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know when it ends and when big talk begins.

SPEAKER_00

But I did hear, so I was watching a clip uh of so I did this book, uh Finding Your Why, something Simon Cynic, and I liked his vibe. Yeah, liked his vibe. He's got a cool vibe, and so I like looked, there was another book that he wrote as well, and then I saw he had a podcast, and he's very close friends, weirdly, with Trevan Noah. Oh, you're right, and so the two of them are often on this podcast together, and on this one episode, Trevor Noah says, small talk is important. We underestimate it because they were both like they don't particularly like small talk. And people a lot of people say that they don't particularly like it. Yeah, but it makes it it creates um like a common ground, like a shared, like if you like, oh the weather's it connects us in a way that big talk doesn't. Big talk separates us, small talk connects us.

SPEAKER_01

That's an interesting concept.

SPEAKER_00

That's an interesting concept, yeah. I'll find you the video and send it. I am paraphrasing horribly, yeah. But essentially, you were saying something like that. So, like when I say, like, oh, the weather's crazy, and you go, yeah, the weather's so crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Like it's uh it's an agreement.

SPEAKER_00

Um we we more often agree during small talk than when we have we share big opinions, it's more you were saying like it creates the like we're in the same context for a moment.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah. So we feel like you're talking about what's around you or what you're experiencing with this person.

SPEAKER_00

With this person, so we feel shared and a shared, like it's a shared identity for a moment, or a shared context for a moment, and so it brings us closer. It makes me think about it differently. Do you know same? And then big talk creates like, oh, this is my opinion. Yours might change, yours might be different because experiences and you know, we're different people and whatever. So yeah, pretty interesting, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's pretty interesting, yeah. That's what we should talk about today.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, small talk and big talk. But it is essentially what we're talking about today. We're talking about small talk and big talk and getting to know someone because that's how you get to know someone. A little bit of small talk, a little bit of big talk, a little bit of questions, and that's essentially. Easy boy. That's why you're not in charge of things.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, look, you go.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but yeah,

Big talk has value too

SPEAKER_00

so I don't know. I think speaking to people, I do find that not a lot of people um push to the big talk or ask questions because they seem scared. But I'm very fortunate to be so curious that I don't give a flying fudge. And so usually, like, I I'll be at work making coffee and I'm like, are you single right now? No, there's no buffer, there's nothing coming up. And then they'll be like, What's going on? Why are you asking me the third animal? Like, I have questions, I'm allowed to ask. You can say no.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you don't have to answer.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and so in that way, I've I've never had the that fear of rejection to ask those questions because I think my parents were just not those types of people, and so I never had that issue. Um, but I always find the response of the people tell me that a lot of people don't do that. Yeah, it's not a the them, the way they respond to me gives me an inclination of like people don't do that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't I don't think I've in last was I asked a question by somebody, but yeah. Just you know, usually you're like you're saying it's like you're commenting on something. Oh, the weather's crazy today. I was supposed to line, it's so hard. When is summer gonna end? Yeah, but I can't remember the last time someone was like, so uh what are you doing? What are you doing with life?

SPEAKER_00

I mean a woman started working at our workplace last year, end of the year sometimes. And she was sitting down and I was like, Why are you here? Like why why you like what happened? Um, because I was like, Why are you here? Like what what's happened? Like how do you because in my mind I was like, I have no context for this person. And it bugs me when I don't have context to someone because I know that what I'm seeing and what I'm assuming is in such isolation, it's not gonna make sense to me. Like, I don't know, like I I'm thinking, like, oh, she mean, but what do I know? How am I making this? And so it bugs me when I don't have context. And so I was like, Oh, why are you here? And she I can see so like I've definitely been in the oh, I've overstepped zone, you know. I was a bit touchy about it, but she like she explained it.

SPEAKER_01

What was she doing there?

SPEAKER_00

She said the other people were mean to her the other work, so she came here, and I was like, Oh yeah, you see, and I was like, Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_01

And maybe that's why she was withdrawn.

SPEAKER_00

And she she did, yeah, she was like, Oh, I'm usually keeping myself kind of girl. And I was like, Okay, now I know that about you, you know. And but now I it creates context.

SPEAKER_01

But you know, now that you've said that, that is another thing. I think maybe the reason people don't communicate so much is because it's it's hard to also find people that listen. Because now that you've said this, I did actually get asked not recently, maybe like three months ago or something. Someone at work had asked me, Oh, are you done studying? And like, what do you like? So I was like, Oh yeah, I'm done studying, and then we're like, So like, what are you doing? Like, you know, with it. And so I was like, I started explaining and I was like, Oh, you know the podcast, and I'm and as I was talking, he started walking away.

SPEAKER_02

Oof.

SPEAKER_01

And so I was like, so I kind of just like rushed the end of my sentence, and I was like, Oh yeah, but you know, like I'm just trying to like, you know, I just like a distance. Whatever, yeah. So I was like, oh, I did this course and I I thought we were talking, and then he must be like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, see, and he's like, Oh, see you, and he just kind of walked away. And I was like, Okay, bye. Yeah, and I was like, there was no response to it. There was and I was like, You didn't have to ask me that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I think that's a good thing. You poked the bee, yeah, and then when the bee was made, you were like, Oh, calm down, mate. Calm down.

SPEAKER_01

That's why you asked. So I told you, and I think it's very rare to get people who listen actually want to listen. Yeah, and but this is in in everyday life, not just in general.

SPEAKER_00

But this is what this is the yeah, this is um, so I think we mentioned it in the last episode. We were talking about like people having difficulty finding someone because and I think a big reason I've oh I think we might have non yet. I don't even think we got to that. But um, I I've been asking a lot of people, like, oh, you're dating someone? And they're saying no, everybody's fucking singing them. And I think that's where we known yet. But my point that then fucking long nauny. Next episode we've come back. Um, oh god, what was it? Um again. In the next episode, you're like, you know what? No, no, no, I will keep to it. Um, that people, the older you get, the more involved in you you get, and the harder it is to make space and time for others. Yes. And it's at nobody's fault. I think it's it is a tough thing to do. You are juggling you, the world, your goals, your aspects.

SPEAKER_01

It's a lot, it's be mentally happy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, some of us have kids, some of us um have full-time careers that they dedicated to, some of us are taking care of our parents, you know. It's a lot to like manage and then still go, let me be, yeah, let me be patient enough to listen to this person and allow their whole life. Like, I have to make physical space in my mind for this whole person. And it's a tough thing to do. And so, you know, I imagine people walking around being like, fuck, I'm just thinking about me, you know, like I didn't even it's not like I didn't want to think about you, I just don't have the space and time, you know. But yeah, I and as a word of advice, not that anyone asked, um the thing that helps me get over myself and not feel anxious is thinking about other people. Yeah, and so I've used that so much as a crux, as a crutch that I feel like I've become a little better at it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So like because I know if I'm like feeling my emotions, I'm like, I need to get out of my head, the best thing I can do is go find out about somebody else's life, see if I can help them, see what value I can do. Take a moment away from me. Take a moment away from me. And that that is the one thing that helps me so much. And over the years, I think maybe another contributor to why big talk doesn't make me so scared. I feel like I'm I can be in the moment of you for a moment, you know? Like, what's going on with you? What do you need? What do you've been thinking about me this whole time? It's fucking exhausting, you know? Yeah. What's going on with something?

SPEAKER_01

Sometimes it is really hard when you're in that me, yeah, me place, that me wadi to actually consider or actually listen to someone else. You know, it's uh kind of zone off and you're like, what were you saying? And you come back to it and you're like, oh, you should change the subject because I didn't hear what you said. And you know, they were talking about like I don't know, their family, and you just lost track of what they were saying, and that's a crappy thing to ask, so you just kind of move on.

SPEAKER_00

Like I do, uh you know I asked that.

SPEAKER_01

Like, like, what did you say? Yeah. Yeah, you do. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

But I think you have no problem. The fact that I'm asking, I love when somebody asks that shows me that you even though you may have drifted off, you came back to me, girl. You came back to me, girl.

SPEAKER_01

Someone that's always been like soft spoken. You asked me like more than twice what I said.

SPEAKER_00

I don't want to say it anymore. I have my yearning for Donlin's like voice, like no one else can understand.

SPEAKER_01

I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. I hope I whoever is listening out there, whatever God is listening to this podcast right now, please let Amber's yearning be the last sense that goes because our friendship is daily relying on it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think so so Ronan's phone is really crappy. The speaker is so bad.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And like we have the great skill of having hour-long conversations with each other sometimes. So our phone, but there are days when that speaker grates my nose. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Even now I'm like, you know what? No. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

The tea is not even worth it at that point. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm there, I'm pushing through. Like I'm in Vietnam trying to find this tea. And at some point, I'm just like, I can't say it again. I can't say, what did you say? What did you say?

SPEAKER_01

At some point you're just like, okay, it's fine, let's just leave it, you know.

SPEAKER_00

But I but I I usually like when I'm talking to somebody and I'm I zone out and then ask a question. Yeah, like fine questions. So so then so then I'll I'll be like, oh fuck, I zone out and I'll listen. And then you'll be like, oh, and then she said this. And I'm like, she who said who said that? And then you're like, oh, the girl that that and I'm like, oh, is she the one? Then I'm like, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the girl. And I'm like, oh, but was she really? Now we're having a conversation, you're re-explaining, but you don't feel like I didn't listen.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so don't panic. Don't panic. Don't panic.

SPEAKER_00

Do not panic.

SPEAKER_01

Just ask clarifying questions. Ask clarifying questions.

SPEAKER_00

Get in there, be like, oh my god, really?

SPEAKER_01

My mom does it in a way where I'm like, I know you're not listening to me. And I know that you're asking this question because you didn't hear anything I said before.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you've got to come in with a bit of tact, you know, and then it just it it just makes me editated.

SPEAKER_01

And then I'm like, I don't want to tell you now. Because if it's not that interesting to you, we don't have to be having this conversation. Which is also something that I think we as adults need to put aside. You know, like if you like saying if you are talking to someone, people's minds drift. I don't think it's so personally if someone asks you, like, hey, can you repeat yourself? Like you're saying, at least they're having the conversation, they're curious enough to come back, to yeah, and that's and that's why I'm like, if somebody's like, What?

SPEAKER_00

And I'm like, okay, well, where did I lose you? Let me get you back on this train. Leave let me see your ticket goal, let me punch you up in the. But yeah, look, look, look, I am a a zone outer. Um, but and so I've got a lot of practice with muscle back, you know. Yeah, so so it's not too bad. And I've I've over the years been like I'll I can't say what? I miss that. That offends people. If you say what, I miss that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't think people so bad.

SPEAKER_00

No, like I feel like that, you're like, What? Like they then realize that your ass wasn't listening. So like you missed that and I have to go back. So you so you gotta like be like, oh, just listen for like a second.

SPEAKER_01

So once you zone out, come back, come back, listen for a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Then you're gonna you're gonna be like, what is she talking about? Uh-huh. Right? And then you're gonna be like, who's this person? Ask that question. That first question that pops into your head after you've listened for the second, ask that question because they'll be like, oh, this person. Oh, you forgot. Oh if the question is what, then you're listening, go to your English teacher, ask for your listening comprehension test, and find yourself in that test.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I should, I should, I should do better.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, so if you

Ask good questions

SPEAKER_00

are somebody who is uh struggling to really connect, right? I think that it's about the questions.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is about the questions.

SPEAKER_00

It's about the questions, about you getting in there. It's not, I think that you need to put aside your want to share and to let them know you so that you can because so many good conversations come out of you being curious, yeah. You know, yeah, and I think people find a genuine connection when somebody's curious, like you say, like you feel like you're being listened to.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so having some good questions and having the patience to listen to it and uh giving yourself an opportunity to uh create a conversation that's interesting for you as well. So if you ask a question where you've kind of created a like uh interesting vibe here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, be interested in the question you're asking. Oh don't just ask anything because you think that it's a polite thing to ask.

SPEAKER_00

Because then you don't care, they don't care. You know, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

But if you actually care, it'll be so much easier to engage with them. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So sounds like simple advice, but but hey, sometimes you know, sometimes it's just it just needs to click the penny. Somebody threw that penny, and for years it's been floating above your head, and today it just landed, just cracking boom. Um, but yeah, so if you're like, what the fuck? What do you what do you mean? What type of questions? We've done a little exercise where we've put together some questions that might give you like a vibe, you know. You might be like, I kind of get what you're saying. Because examples, whenever I'm learning something or thinking about something, is always fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I'm gonna say something before we get into the questions. Because Amber sent me a prompt on what's a bit.

SPEAKER_00

Be in mind, I am the worst texture.

SPEAKER_01

She is the worst, you know. I'll tell I'll tell you guys. She has a bad texter. I don't know, maybe Logan will cut this out. But today I messaged Amber because I was like, I'm gonna come over to podcast line. And I made a joke, you know, because I was like, dude, what did I do?

SPEAKER_00

I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01

So I messaged her and I'm like, hey, and she's like, hey. And then I was like, oh, I'm just messaging to check if you're awake because she usually takes a nap after school. Yes. So I wanted to see if she was awake. So I say, lol, just checking if you're awake, to which she replies, yeah. No emoji, just Y-E-A-H. Yeah. So I was like, okay, what did you want me to say? You crazy girl. Lol, yeah, yeah. Smiley face. I don't know. Like, do you know do you know what is happening in the house? Yeah, it's tough. I was like, what am I gonna come over to? Are you in a bad mood? Are you in the mood? No, I was hungry. You were busy with the pancakes when I got it.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, I was watching something on my phone and then the drop down came.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then I just messaged in the yeah, and then I, you know, if I'm mad.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's tough. I don't think I'd say I don't know. You would have said like you would have said like yeah, or like yes. Because you would have said yes. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

If I was upset, I'd be like yes.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, it's like Jason. No, yes, Jessie.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, girl. Like imagine I'm mad and I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

If you said yeah, girl. Oh yeah. I would have skipped into this house. If I'm upset with you, I would have said yes.

SPEAKER_00

The more upset I am, the better my English gets.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, 100%. But also, you've been using a lot of emojis lately. You know, and I was like, I thought that that that was for my benefit, you know, because I've told you before, hey, I appreciate the emoji. And then when you didn't put an emoji today, I was like, what's going on? Nothing, my bad. I send you on a you send me on a whole spot. I was dying. I was like, oh my god. And I was like, calm down, Donald.

SPEAKER_00

You know, just I was I literally was just watching something, a drop down. I was like, yeah, I'm awake.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, 15 years, guys, and even still happens. Still happens, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then she came over and she was like, Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Walked in cautiously. I saw she was making pancakes, and I was like, Oh, okay, she's probably busy, that's why it was a short message. And then it made sense. Calmed down, had a cup of coffee.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Sometimes you just need to let her fizzle out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'll find my way. Don't worry about it. So when Amber sent me the the prompt for this, I think she was like, Oh, we're gonna do an episode, come up with some questions. That was the only context I had.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's it. That's all I gave her. Okay, you read my mind, go.

SPEAKER_01

You know, so I'm like uh So now we've had the beginning of this conversation and maybe my questions aren't as serious as um because I was like first date questions. These are things I would genuinely and have genuinely asked on the first date some of them. So I don't like to get too serious. I'm gonna date them now, I think you should because I've got an explanation for each one. So let's concern how far are we?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay. Well, um I've got some questions, but uh do you want to like preface your questions? Like give us a vibe of your question. Like, like these questions I like to ask when like, you know, this and they're all over the place. They are all over the place. And and the aim, like like talk to me about like what is the aim of your question? Each one has a different aim. No, no, I mean like like when you when you have like is there a technician to the questions? Like, is there a purpose?

SPEAKER_01

All of these you can kind of see as prompts. So these are not yes or no questions, these are questions that are a little bit lighthearted that are gonna start a conversation to give me more context because they are. The These are character questions.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, and and and with these questions, what have you found? Like it really gets what out of them?

SPEAKER_01

Um, it loosens people up.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Because they aren't very serious, but they are like character-based questions. So because it's not like um, oh, where do you see yourself in five years? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's more like um Okay, don't give your questions away.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, they'll they're looser.

SPEAKER_01

They're looser, and so you can get more information in a light-hearted way that doesn't like step on anything, similar, not awkward or anything.

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, I I with my questions, I've got a variety of questions. I think that you are stuck in this one moment, in this one place, and so your how you get to know this person is going to be uh limited. And so the best thing in my mind, I'm like the best thing I can do is shoot everywhere, you know, get as varied as possible. You know what I'm saying? So mine's like a little bit serious, a little bit uh chilled, a little bit, you know, quirky.

SPEAKER_01

So but you would ask all of these on a first date.

SPEAKER_00

I would ask anybody this anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Even if it's a free end date. Like I would just this is like your first serious interaction with this person, and you'd ask these questions. Like none of them delve too much into like too serious where you're like, I would.

SPEAKER_00

But that's what I'm saying. I'd I'd ask, yeah. Yeah, I'd stay it up. I would ask them, hey, you got trauma? Tell me about it. That's how like I don't like I'd get in there.

SPEAKER_01

That's what you don't want to do. On a first date, no trauma dumping. Dump it.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm here for that. I want to year the tea. I want to year the tea.

SPEAKER_01

I I with maybe that'll be next episode. We'll talk about trauma. Why trauma dumping is trauma? When to do it. Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Trauma dumping and trauma dumping and when to do it. Episode three. Okay, so do you want to go with all your questions, or do you want me to throw in how many questions do you have?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I don't think I have a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe we can go like one for one. But that like the vibe, you know. Okay, I see. Didn't I think I think I have like one, two, three, four, four. I've only got four. Jesus Christ, how many questions? She's such a like eleven. She you you're like, I tell you, like, oh, get she came in your let's be honest. The questions that she has there, she's whittled down already. She had a million questions. I can't. This is why my prompt so I should be more specific. Maybe six questions. Yeah, I should be more specific. That's my problem. I'm like, oh, get get.

SPEAKER_01

I'm a student by nature.

SPEAKER_00

Get questions. She's like, all the questions in the world? I've got them all. I brought every question.

SPEAKER_01

When I was first thinking about them, I was so nervous because I was like, at first I was like, do I Google like first date questions? And I was like, no, they have to like come from me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then I think you can guess my first question actually.

SPEAKER_00

My my questions are all questions I saw um online that I liked.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I didn't, I didn't because I I tell you why this is difficult because I don't ask questions like I I don't if if I if I'm on a friend date or if I'm meeting somebody for the first time.

SPEAKER_01

I ask context questions.

SPEAKER_00

I ask context questions in any case. So it's very dependent on what I know about the person and how I interact with them. So it's tough for me to think about questions. Like a hypothetical person. I'm not a like Logan is a very oh, if you had a leg and a and a hand and they were swapped.

SPEAKER_01

That's kind of one of my questions.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So he has a lot of those questions, but I'm I'm not a what if person, you know. I like to I'm like not a what if person. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. No, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Don't ask a hypothetical question. She will not because I need to know the context. She will be.

SPEAKER_00

Because like if you had an I'm like, did did there was there a surgery? How do I feel about this? How old am I? Is it today? Um, but yeah, so I had to look for my questions because I yeah, so and I thought about what questions resonate with me. What could I see myself like being like, okay, I'd ask this.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. Well maybe I should go first because mine aren't so serious.

Question 1

SPEAKER_00

Now I kind of want to.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, go for it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. But but look, so this is how loudly would you be comfortable playing music in a public location?

SPEAKER_01

That is a good question. That tells you a lot about a person. You know what I'm saying? That tells you about the person. Do you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

It like like it gives you like the politeness. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Are you okay with loud stuff? It tells you like, because if they like, oh yeah, like your away of the people around you.

SPEAKER_01

Do you care about noise pollution? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Which is a big thing for me. Somebody who they sound, like the way they make sound, how they see sound. It's one of your scenes, is you're doing it all the time, you know? Are you self-aware? Gives me like a vibe. Like, I feel like, are you third person or first person? You know what I'm saying? Like if you if you first person, you loud. If you third person, you a little bit quieter. You know, and I like a third person kind of that is such a good question.

SPEAKER_01

That's a good question.

SPEAKER_00

You're gonna add it there, I'll send it to you for your first date.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because I don't anyone that plays music loudly on a phone or something while waiting in line for something, yeah, that is so rude. Yeah, like you know, and I also think like if you don't have earphones, unfortunately you can't listen to music right now. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

And also like the person, like, keep you private, bro. Like, why do you have to like like there's a pr a privacy to it as well, you know? Like, if I play music loud, I've I either want everybody to hear my music or don't care, or do you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I couldn't wait to listen to the music, like I can't live without the music. Like, it just it's an it's an odd thing for me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like unless somebody asks to play for me, it's it's very impolite. Yeah, it's noise pollution, it's like throwing a paper right in front of me while I'm standing in line. It's the same thing, but like in the air.

SPEAKER_00

Don is very noise sensitive as well. But I do I agree, I agree with you. I also that's one of my deal breakers. Too loud.

SPEAKER_01

Uh going back to episode one, Kovac. Um, the Raven.

SPEAKER_00

That's she gets angry, like she'll swear.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I get really angry. She gets like it goes from the side. Like the series, but I feel like I want to punch something. Ah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I do think that's uh very autistic trait you have.

SPEAKER_01

I do think so, yeah. Because you but that's why I couldn't date someone that leaves the call intention at that point.

SPEAKER_00

It becomes so irrational. You go from like anyway, and then I'll you're tense up, dude. And I'll need a moment to like come back down to earth. Like but look, to be quite honest, I share the sentiment. I don't like, I don't like, I don't it makes me feel like I'm really uncomfortable. Like, why? Why did you have to do that? Like I'm so unsettled. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Good question, good start.

SPEAKER_00

Uh

Question 2

SPEAKER_00

okay, my next one is a would you rather question? Okay. Would you rather be someone who's a great cook and messy around the house, or an awful cook but very neat?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, good cook. Oh, you're not asking me, but my house says good cook. I was like, girl, these questions are kidding me. Good question. Okay, so messy around the house or good cook or good clean around the house, but bad cook. Who would choose bad cook?

unknown

I can think of someone.

SPEAKER_01

You can think of someone? I can think of people who not not like because like that's like you're sustaining yourself with food.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but then you're you're you're messy. It's not like oh you're you're you're always gonna have to.

SPEAKER_01

Every time my mother would choose.

SPEAKER_00

Your your mother would, yeah. Your mother would be like, I would rather eat then, you know. And I'm just like I have toast every day. And I think I have a clean out. I think that if if the question was uh would you rather be a good cook and have to clean up after yourself? Like they're saying you're messy.

SPEAKER_01

Everywhere.

SPEAKER_00

Everywhere.

SPEAKER_01

So so how when you say bad cook, can you still like make things?

SPEAKER_00

Look, it's gonna be edible. You're not gonna die. But it's not easy.

SPEAKER_01

But everything you make everything you make is gross. Like if I make toast and avocado, is it gross? It's not great. Okay, so nothing I ever make is great. It's not. But I can eat other people's food and it's gross. Okay, easy answer. Easy. I barely cook now.

SPEAKER_00

But but you see, but but that already gives you like the value system, how you see yourself in your home, how you see your nutrition, what you you're like, yeah, no, that's fine. You can be like, oh no, you like the answer in itself gave me context to your family as well, you know? So that's such a man. Some good ones I found. Okay,

Question 3

SPEAKER_00

the next one is you're at a party and your friend makes an offensive joke that makes everyone uncomfortable. How do you react? How do you react? You've been I immediately explain her. I explain. I'm like, oh no, no, just okay, you're me out. Ron Lynn used to be this, and so she sees it like I literally will explain. I will I will add so much context. She really does. It helps me a lot. Ron's like, and then I was like, and then everyone's like, oh, and I'm like, okay, group, I have a PowerPoint for this exact moment.

SPEAKER_01

I should have explained her before she came over. Okay, so you're standing in a group of people and your friends say something offensive. Yeah, how do you respond? Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. Not saying anything would be a tough one. Yeah. Yeah, that would be a tough answer to who wouldn't say anything. I think I think there are people like like you're your you're on your own, man.

SPEAKER_00

I honestly I would either create context, or my hope is that the person would say, I would laugh. Yeah, a laugh is okay. A laugh is okay, yeah. Because that shows me that you don't care what other people think, I guess. Like, hey, I think you're funny. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Like siding with them, quote unquote. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think I think the worst answer you could give to that one is nothing. Yeah, I'd do nothing. That's I do nothing. Although the worst thing is walking away. Yeah. That's the worst thing. That's not your thing.

SPEAKER_00

Now you suddenly people around, you know, you got muddles, are you got models like okay, okay. So yeah, that's so a little bit of a you know, and then I also think what what I do think is nice about yours and Logan is something that I think is nice about the way you guys have conversations. I do like the obscurity of the conversations because sometimes those types of questions give you an inclination into a little bit that you wouldn't have thought, you know. I it it it's a nice conversation, like you're saying, starter into something else, and you can have like a back and forth.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So the one that I chose

Question 4

SPEAKER_00

was uh if you had a favorite disease, what would it be?

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean, favorite?

SPEAKER_00

As in like favorite, you know? If you had uh like favorite disease, it's my favorite disease.

SPEAKER_01

Um okay, what favorite disease.

SPEAKER_00

And for whatever reason, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Cancer is overrated.

SPEAKER_00

It's a lot, a lot's going. You see, this is okay. Ronan thinks that cancer Whoops. I think what you mean to say is over popular that is over.

SPEAKER_01

In the context we're speaking about, like if I had to pick a favorite, cancer would be overrated for what we're talking about in this context of people.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think I would have I I think I think like sickle cell. Sickle cell anemia.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I think it's it's uh it's it affects one group more than other groups, so it's um it's already segmented in that way. And I think in that there's an exclusivity to it that I kind of like, you know? I think it's also dangerous.

SPEAKER_00

I think it is dangerous. So I've seen I've seen people throw up. I think I would choose something that like like something like diabetes or like the the thing that Asian people have when they're intolerant to alcohol.

SPEAKER_01

I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_00

Apparently there's a gene that Asian folk have that makes them not process alcohol well. Wow. You know, like something like that, where like it low-key keeps me away from from something dangerous. Okay. Do you know like a like a gluten intolerance? Like it's helping you. It's helping you. You know what I'm saying? Like, like that would be something I'd I'd choose as a favorite because I'm like, why wouldn't you want something that's already like low-key helping you?

SPEAKER_01

That would be nice. Well, are we saying we're gonna have these diseases? Uh and look however you chose it.

SPEAKER_00

You said favorite, it's just a like go anemia, get as many people as you want. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Like, you know, like if they were done in a race, who would you want to win the race? Is that your question? What's your it's your question?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, yeah, if I wanted one to win a race. Oh, okay. What what disease would it be? Hipsy, because everyone has it, and like the older one admitted, and we need to start churning for that. Everyone we need to start churning for the stigma. Everyone has hip C. We need to start openly cheering. Hipsy, hipsy.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you know what? Mine would be endometriosis. Cute. Thanks. Endometrios. Yeah, my sister has it, but also my mom has it. And my cousins have it. It's a family thing.

SPEAKER_00

It's a family thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But is it hereditary? Um, I don't know. My whole family has it, so I kind of feel like it must be. I'm crossing my fingers, I don't have it yet.

SPEAKER_00

Look, hereditary doesn't mean you're going to get it either. You know?

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, I was just seeing a lot of like people, it's it's coming up now. So that might be nice.

SPEAKER_00

So so when I I watched this podcast where these people were like it was like a lot of I think I spoke to you about it, like women, like one was a doctor, one was yeah, one was like a a fitness coach for women ex uh exclusively. Somebody was like a fertility doctor also, different things like that. So like all all from uh professions that specify or work on women specifically and have like their hormones in mind. And they were saying that like we forget how little uh how few studies included women when creating medicine, when creating like different types of like studies on the brain, things like that. They don't often include women because the researchers say that we fluctuate so much it's very hard to get a control and stability. Yeah. So they focus on men because it's a bit more like solid. So like there are so many drugs that we tend to take as women that haven't been tested on women and the effects exactly. And even with like they were saying like there was this phenomenon where women would go to the doctor and they would be like, Oh, the the like the wailing woman, they called it because women would just come with these gentle complaints. But it was and now they're only learning that these general complaints are usually like tied to something. Um what is the when you lose all your eggs? Menopause? Menopause, it's tied to menopause, like something like that, you know. So back then they were like, Oh, there she goes complaining again. It's just give her give her this that should be fine. Exactly. So what was that? Why did I bring that up? So endometriosis, I can see why it's getting the light now because it's fairly new. Like they said, they literally didn't know what else to give it except birth control. Yeah, and the if they're finding now that birth control is so fucking dangerous that it's not really it like later on in life, it does so much damage that like this person doesn't.

SPEAKER_01

And also it's a problem with your reproductive organs. Enough you have it when you're young and you take your birth control.

SPEAKER_00

Literally, your hormones, bro.

SPEAKER_01

And the chances of having a kid afterwards, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Oof, tough. Anyway, yes, root for that one. It is, it is a yeah, it's a good, that's a good mention. Hepsi and Endo get it. Woo! Not at the same time, ladies. Not at the same time. Not at the same time. But yeah, and those those are my questions. They're not forgetting.

SPEAKER_01

Those are good questions. Those are well-rounded. Thanks. They make me feel bad about my own.

SPEAKER_00

No, because I got mine on the internet. So that's you know, I did go looking for them. They're good ones, yeah. But I did I did go look for them.

SPEAKER_01

And they aren't too serious.

SPEAKER_00

No, they're not.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was a little worried that yours were gonna be too serious, but that's still kind of care, just fun. The diseased one might get sad at a dinner table.

SPEAKER_00

It did already get sad when we were talking about it. Kind of it got a little sad. Yeah, so be careful of that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Think about the crowd when you're asking that one.

SPEAKER_00

And and and steer, steer the conversation.

SPEAKER_01

If they have any recent debts in the family, don't ask it.

SPEAKER_00

Do not ask it. Do not.

SPEAKER_01

What's your favorite cancer?

SPEAKER_00

I gotta go. You know, the date over. Horrible.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, let's get to my questions.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Oh shit. Straight off the dome. She's freestyling. She is freestyling.

SPEAKER_01

I don't even know. Okay. Like, look, I'm

Question 5

SPEAKER_01

just gonna fuck it.

SPEAKER_00

Go for it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I think you can guess what my foot what's what what do I always say tell you the most about a person?

SPEAKER_00

Their shoes.

SPEAKER_01

I did say their shoes. Do you like animals?

SPEAKER_00

Ah, yes.

SPEAKER_01

Now there's a spectrum, you know, serial killers and humanitarians. One loves animals, one is known to kill animals.

SPEAKER_00

That's a good yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So what can tell you a lot of it? Now I know like a lot of serial killers liked animals like Dharma and stuff, but He also did kill animals.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

You both loved and beheded. Kill them. Kill them. I think if you just if you're big.

SPEAKER_00

It makes it makes your point stand, how you see them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know? And I think the only wrong answer is I dislike them. I think if you're neutral about them, that's not too bad. Yeah. You know, because I think I can turn, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Ever had a cat lay on your chest.

SPEAKER_00

Um some people despise them, kiddies, eh?

SPEAKER_01

Hey, nobody wants it later. My mum used to hate it. But and this is how I know that once you have anywhere else.

SPEAKER_00

Yum's very stubborn. You know? Yeah. She's a stubborn woman. When she makes her mind up about something, she's she's on it. So I'm surprised she changed her mind.

SPEAKER_01

You can't not love them. They're like babies, but they literally design the babies.

SPEAKER_00

Animal love in general, though. She she does have a soft spot for animals.

SPEAKER_01

I'm telling you, I this is we gotta we gotta make a study about this. Anyone if you're around a cat for long enough, you can't not love it.

SPEAKER_00

They do say that cats help with anxiety. So if you have an ADHD kid, they say cat a cat is a good pet because they almost they're very calming. Yes, they are very calming. And they teach the kid sometimes because they can like it. Unlike dogs, like they're very quick, so you have to like earn their affection, which teaches the kid to I can only and it's not too overwhelming, like. And they learn that through the relationship, which is nice for them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I do think kids should have pets just introduced whatever the pet is.

SPEAKER_00

With the dirt, also they say pets introduce good and bad bacteria to the to the kid as well, which helps the immune system in the long run.

SPEAKER_01

It teaches them like that, like cheating and taking care of something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, the second

Question 6

SPEAKER_01

one is which friend are you in your friend group?

SPEAKER_00

This one and friends, what is the choices?

SPEAKER_01

Like, um, like I think in our friend group, I'm like the little sister. I think everyone sees me like a little sister. I think you're like the glue, like the leader, quote unquote. Jessie's the jester, Logan's, you know, like I think. You know what I mean? I just I just I say jester.

SPEAKER_00

It's so funny. I think I think you you you know what you should ask? Who are you in the French group and who do you want to be in the frame group?

SPEAKER_01

That's that's too much.

SPEAKER_00

That's why that's where I'm going. That's what I would ask. If I had that question, my next follow-up is but who do you want to be?

SPEAKER_01

Look, I think that the reason the reason I thought of this question was because I also did see a video. Actually, I saw a video on Instagram. It's a good question, yeah. And I was like, I think first off, it tells you their relationship to their friends, it tells you how they view themselves in there, not who they want to be, but how are people reacting to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't think of myself as their little sister, but everyone treats me like their little sister, and that's why I'm like, that's who I am to the group. That's not who I am on my own. Yeah, fair, fair. But when I'm in the group, this is how people treat me.

SPEAKER_00

So this is more a question of how people, what do they say about you?

SPEAKER_01

You know, but like the people closest to you, what are they saying

Question 7

SPEAKER_01

about you? You know? Which leads into my next question. What word would your mom use to describe you if she only had one?

SPEAKER_00

Weird.

SPEAKER_01

Argumentative. And that tells you a lot about the person.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, it does. Which is so funny because I wouldn't describe you as argumentative.

SPEAKER_01

You know, and I wouldn't describe you as weird. Yeah. But yeah, I think I think I don't think that the answer that they give is going to necessarily say who they are as a person. But I think it it opens up a conversation about their family and if they are close with their family together.

SPEAKER_00

And why their parents would perceive that you can get a bit about their relationship.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and so you know, it's a bit of a conversation starting. That's a good one. That's

Question 8

SPEAKER_01

a good one. Okay. Do you make your bed every day?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, fuck that question.

SPEAKER_01

You know?

SPEAKER_00

What do you want? What do you want? No. I think it's a nice thing to do.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's a nice thing to do.

SPEAKER_00

I think I don't actually. I'm gonna go back on that, sorry.

SPEAKER_01

You don't think it's a nice thing to do?

SPEAKER_00

I don't think it's a nice thing to do. I think it's disgusting. To make your feeling? To make your bed in the morning. It's it disgusts me. I hate it. Because if you just slept in that bed, your warm, moist body, and then you seal it up, it that freaks me out. So what I I would prefer to that counts as making it though. Like just I please don't give me too much credit. I'm ba I barely do this.

SPEAKER_01

But to leave it open so that it can like Okay, I walk I don't know. Uh paying attention to your bed, maybe is the question. Okay, because I mean like someone that's like like I get up and I leave, but I'm not looking back at my bed. Need them up like oh I need to fold it over so I can plead them. Like whatever state I left it in. I'll say I get back into it.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, same God. Same. I'm not a bit. I feel so look. I just want to two things. I want to say one thing. Uh I'm not like a sweaty person. Yeah. I'm I'm not like getting like there's no wet indentation of my body. And that's why I wanted to say that's why I wanted to say that. I just meant it grosses me out to think that people are you are, whether you like it or not, you are a warm body laying in that bed. And I think it's just preferable to air it out. And I also want to say that I am lazy, but I've it's just my values and my laziness are just lining up right now, so I see more put together, but I'm not that put together. I kind of also just like open my bed and then leave it, you know. Okay. But I'll open it because I I do want it to be open. I don't like the idea of tucking it in, you know.

SPEAKER_01

That makes sense. I mean and I and I think again the art there's a spectrum to it. You know, you get the person like I'm bringing up my mom a lot in this episode. I don't know why. Yeah, she's not gonna be a little bit more's mom's advice to us. But she literally sleeps on top of her blankets so that in the morning it's easier, she just like straightens, she'll sleep with another blanket on top of her, and then in the morning just straighten her bed up because So let me let me you know what for those of you at home, Ronland's mother will not let her or her sister leave the house without iron their clothes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and Ronlin is not, I mean, you can tell by the I don't make my bed, she's not that kind of girl. So she will go and she will not iron her clothes, and while she's in the shower, her mom will sneak and grab her clothes, iron it, and then crumple it up in the same way that Ron left it, so she doesn't know it. She's been doing this.

SPEAKER_01

Apparently she's been doing it for months and I didn't know. She confessed like last week, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna keep doing it, I don't mind.

SPEAKER_00

And I think that that's such a like clear case of like OCD. And every time we bring it up, she's like, I don't know if it's not. I don't have OCD. She won't admit it. But I'm like, that's wild.

SPEAKER_01

You are sneak ironing my clothes, lady. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_00

She dreams about cleaning specific items of like if you asked if you could clean one thing of one of us. For of me, Jess, or John, which what would you do? She has one for each of us. More than yeah, more than one.

SPEAKER_01

She has a list.

Question 9

SPEAKER_01

Okay, next question. What's something you use every day? No essentials, no phone, no toothbrush, no pillow, like something that you don't need that you use every day.

SPEAKER_00

Crocs.

SPEAKER_01

Those countries. Okay. Yeah. Like mine would be like my puzzle board. Do you use it every day? Every day. Even if it's just for 10 minutes a puzzle.

SPEAKER_00

I wanted to say my bookmarkers because I do read, but I don't read every single day. Like there'll be one or two I'm going to do.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I yeah, like one or two, but like four out of five days. Four out of four days of the week you do it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, then then a bookmark.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I will uh oh a pen. I use a pen every day. For work? A combination. I also do write in my books. I write in my books when I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, that's all right.

SPEAKER_00

So I can highlight and pen, and I'll write, and then I'll write at work and then Okay, so it's not just for work.

SPEAKER_01

I'll take it.

Question 10

SPEAKER_01

Okay, tell me your favourite joke.

SPEAKER_00

Do you want to hear that?

SPEAKER_01

I do want to hear it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, there are two muffins. The muffin, I don't know. It's gonna be the muffin. It's just it's the only way. I've been telling this so when we were young, we were at high school together and we both did physics. And they I I don't know why, but at some point I was like, I had this theory, because in high school I was always like, Oh, I've got this theory, theory, series. And I had this theory that if we repeat something enough times, none of us will ever forget it, ever in our lives.

SPEAKER_01

That is how memory works. That's how memory works.

SPEAKER_00

And so I did this test where I repeated the same fucking thing, and I'll prove it to you now. Ronan Epsilon.

SPEAKER_01

The permeability of free space. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I promise you, anybody that knows this and any of our friends listening, you knew it. The permativity of free space, you know it. Because we've repeated it so long, and this is one of those things. That's the joke. This is beautiful. This is the joke that just stuck with me all this time because I always brought it up, and so it's always the first joke I think of. Oh, yeah. Um, there are two muffins in a in an oven, and the one turns to the other one and says, Oh my god, it's hot in here. And the other muffin looks at it and goes, Oh, talking muffin. It's good.

SPEAKER_01

Simple and efficient. I love it.

SPEAKER_00

No, my my my favorite right now, my favorite joke is the saying in Russia that I saw on the video that Vladimir Putin said to um to the to the journalist. He was like, We have a saying in Russia that if you look in the murder and you're ugly, you don't blame, you don't blame the murder. And I think it's just a funny joke to me.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know that was a joke, I thought it was just a saying.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's a saying, yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's my favorite joke right now, but it's a saying. Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

The Russians out there, it's just like, okay, it's our life, but um, okay, this this is a fun one because I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_00

What's your favorite joke?

SPEAKER_01

You know my favorite joke, it's kind of as a same, like it's like I'm doing a stand-up set though.

SPEAKER_00

You know Is it the long one at the club? Yeah. Oh my god, okay, go for the oh dodge up the water, she takes the build up for this joke. No, I get it. Get it, no, get it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so you know, when we were in our 20s, we used to go out a lot. Um, so we would like go to the clubs and stuff. You know, you want to get all the dressed up. This is all part of the joke. This is part of the joke.

SPEAKER_00

She does this white, she did it to me. She did this one. I love I did this with her, and she wound it up for me like this.

SPEAKER_01

It helps. So you get all dressed up and stuff. And I remember one day I had bought um a new gold watch, and I was very excited to wear this watch out. So we went out one Saturday night, have my new watch on, cute outfit. You know, we go, we drink and we dancing. And then I look down at some point and I realized my watch is gone. I'm looking at you like you've never heard of the chat. No, no, I'm listening. And so I'm looking around the table, I'm checking the floor, I can't find it anywhere. So I turn to Emma, I'm like, I'm looking at a check on the dance floor for the time. So I go She's a wild dancer. I'm a wild I am a wild dancer. I fling my arms a lot. So I'm checking the dance floor and I see it and I see that some guy is standing on it. So I walk up to him and I realize he's speaking to this lady, and he's literally swearing at her, he's shouting at her, pointing at her, you know. And so I walk up to him and I'm like, excuse me, sir. Um, but no man is gonna speak to a woman like this. Not on my watch. Because he's standing on the watch. And what this tells you about the person is their ability to be patient.

SPEAKER_00

That's what it tells me. You you found yourself a patient man.

SPEAKER_01

I love a pun, you know?

SPEAKER_00

And I do you do love a pun, but boy, do you love a buildup.

SPEAKER_01

I do also love a because it's I I like the kind of jokes where at some point you're like, what are you saying? And then you're like, oh my gosh, there's the punchline. I can find it after all that. Oh, I get it now. I'm gonna go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, sorry, I got a lot of questions

Question 11

SPEAKER_01

here.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. You got one more. Pick one more.

SPEAKER_01

No, I got three more. Just let me say that. Oh my god. Okay. Who would win in a fight between a shark and an octopus?

SPEAKER_00

A shark.

SPEAKER_01

A shark? I think an octopus. And I think sharks are very strong. But have you seen an octopus?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

They they wrap around you.

SPEAKER_00

You don't see very many octopus on shark attacks. You see a lot of shark attacks. They're not very violent.

SPEAKER_01

But they don't never an octopus.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I'm telling that, okay, I because they could have they don't want to start the fight because they know they'll lose.

SPEAKER_01

I saw this video of this this diver

Question 12

SPEAKER_01

that got attacked by an octopus and it's stuck on its face and it couldn't, as it was trying to pull one tentacle, because they have the other one. Yeah, yeah. You couldn't get it, you couldn't have eight. Because they have eight. Shut up. Okay, what's your favorite donut? Now, this I think is a very telling question. Because you can get the plain donut people, like a cinnamon donut, or you get like the bar one with the filling kind of donut. And that tells you if they're a minimalist or a maximalist immediately. That your favorite donut says a lot about you.

SPEAKER_00

I this is a tough one. I like as a kid, I always liked the ring donuts with the white icing. I do not like the ring donuts with the chocolate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And that just makes sense. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_00

So if I go to old classic instinct me, I'd say that one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But if that dough, if that donut dough is like fucking oily, then you give me hot buttons. You're talking about a good one. Perfect, but yeah, they're not dough with that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I like any donut, which says a lot about me.

SPEAKER_00

She's a maximus. I will literally eat any fucking donut you put in front of me. What does that say about me?

SPEAKER_01

It's got gem, I love it.

SPEAKER_00

It sounds like you're a hoe. That's what it does. I see I love it. If I'm on the opposite end and we're having donut, you say that, I'm like, wow, this girl.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, hoe. If I had to choose my favorite, favorite donut, I do think it would be it would be like the chocolate glaze with the chocolate sprinkles. You know, with those long, the vermacen sprinkles. I hated that donut. It's so good. Anyway,

Question 13

SPEAKER_01

what's your last one? Okay, this one, this one like I came up with. This one, this one was just fun. Right? So if you could talk to any body part of yours and it had like a conscious, you know, like it was like a consciousness study. What body part would it be and why?

SPEAKER_00

Not organ.

SPEAKER_01

Or an organ, it could be in my brain. But it literally has a consciousness.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but it's me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'd like to like why so that you could ask it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'd be like, why do you keep avoiding stuff?

SPEAKER_01

And then Oh, that's deeper. You know what mine is looking at.

SPEAKER_00

Your nails so that you can be like, stop doing it right now. Okay, it's Friday and I don't cut my nails on Friday.

SPEAKER_01

Remind me. Okay, mine been a Thursday. I was looking in the middle when I thought of this question. And I was like, I wish I could just like communicate with my teeth so I could find out what do I do to make you more white. Oh my god. Your teeth wouldn't know. But that's something that has a consciousness. That would be like, you need to stop drinking so much coffee that's really getting yourself.

SPEAKER_00

She's done. She's like, oh but she came into my house saying that she's I I drink seven cups of coffee, black coffee, no more. Just and then she's like, I need to talk to my teeth and ask my teeth. Well, what if that's not the problem? You knew in your hypothetical went on sitting in it. You all did, you telling yourself, you have teeth talking.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, but maybe it would be easy if I knew for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but yeah, I I think uh I uh other than that, I I would say my hands. So you could just so that I could ask it what is it busy with all the time? Like what am I not noticing? What are you, you know, like what did you see that I did?

SPEAKER_01

I think if I had to pick one for you, it would be your neck so you could calm it down and start getting neck pain. Oh, you could also be like, Nick, you can relax, let's do it some therapy, you know, and then your neck could calm down and you could sleep better.

SPEAKER_00

That would be nice, but but yeah, I guess yeah, I didn't think about it like that. I was like, oh let's get some more information, let's overthink the situation.

SPEAKER_01

I guess would be a good one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Because I I suppose, like, for example, if you're in the kitchen, right? And you're you're like cutting a lemon, and you're like, oh, where's the knife? And you go take the lemon and you turn around from the counter to where the knives are, and you take you come back and you're like, oh my where's the lemon? And you lose the lemon. Because what what did you do? You know, and so I sometimes feel like our hands we're busy with things, but our brains are not always paying attention to it.

SPEAKER_01

That that's an interesting approach to my question.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Because I think I'm and this is why my mother calls me weird.

SPEAKER_01

No, I think it's a very practical use for it. Yeah, but I think I was more like, like, what are you curious about with your body? Oh you know, like like what's the one thing where you're like, I just don't know why my body keeps doing this one thing.

SPEAKER_00

And that was the brain. That's why I thought I did think brain.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, what are you doing? Why are you like why what would you do?

SPEAKER_01

Calm down, like chill.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, that's it. Those are all my questions.

SPEAKER_00

Those are good, those were good questions. Those are solid questions. State of the dome. Nice, you're working on, man. Yeah, you might be right.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like I feel like they could start less conversation than your questions. I do think yours are a little bit more conversational. Yeah, whereas yours might be like a like a uh back and forth or like a I think mine would take um a talkative person to get into it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, some people I can imagine your cousin, if you asked him this question, it would just be like flat, it would fall flat. No.

SPEAKER_01

Like what do you mean? Feet, shoulders, you know, which again I think tells you a lot how they answer the question. For sure. But I mean, I one would hope you're not a person.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I hope you could tell that by then. Hopefully, you're at the dinner table with somebody who's whimsical enough for you, you know. They're like whimsical. Yeah. But yeah, at the end of the day, whether you're getting to know somebody or you're not getting to know somebody, or you're listening, you're not listening, don't overthink it.