Overthinker’s Guide
The Overthinker’s Guide is a podcast where two friends think things through in real time.
Each episode starts with a situation—something people overanalyse, replay, or quietly sit with—and we unpack it the way we would if no one was listening.
We question it.
We challenge each other.
We try to make sense of it without spiraling.
This isn’t advice, and it’s not a polished answer.
It’s what it sounds like when two people are honest, a little bit messy, and actually trying to understand something.
If you tend to overthink, this is a space where that’s allowed—but handled better.
Overthinker’s Guide
IDKWNTHT
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
We found some phrases. We’re just the messengers. 🤷‍♀️
You know those things someone says and it just sits with you? Yeah. We’re saying those things.
Maybe you needed the wake up call.
Maybe you’ll laugh at us breaking it down.
Maybe it’s for us just as much as it’s for you.
“Stop checking in with your friends if you should do it — you’re gonna do it anyway.”
We don’t know who needs to hear this. But we have a feeling you might. 🎙️🫶
Is it the overty over fifty four fifty five?
Introduction
SPEAKER_02We are back today, Johnzia with me.
SPEAKER_03Hey, you know, you never say who you are. Maybe you should be like, hey, I'm Amber, and today I'm here with Don.
SPEAKER_02Do you hear how it sounds? I mean, I'll do okay. Hey guys, I'm Amber and you're back with no, I got it, I got it. Okay, so you go, you introduce me. Okay. Do I say I'm Amber? No, no, no. Just do it like normal. I just do it like normal. Hey guys, welcome to the Overthinkers Guide. Um, I'm here with Don today.
SPEAKER_03And I'm here with Amber. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I love it. Sometimes as a friend, you gotta love it. You just go with it. Just gotta love it. Anyway, intro out the way, check. Um, today we are talking about science from the universe. Science. Yeah, Don and I are we are not um uh what do they call them? Uh astrology girls. We're not astrology girls, but we do believe in it. Yeah, we're in there. Like we, you know, we put a toe or a foot in there every now and then. You know, I you you don't want to discount anything. Open perspective is a good thing. And sometimes you read it and you're like, actually, that's fucking with my day today. Every single time, every single time it goes so hard. Okay. Vaguely, most times. And um it we also one thing we do very powerfully believe in is that the universe is you know working on a grander frequency that we don't understand. And sometimes there are signs and things that we are connected to. We are one huge ecosystem of I sound like them, but anyway, whatever. Like them, who am I
Topic intro
SPEAKER_02like astrology girls, but yeah, fuck it. You know, I'm a double down. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna double down. Um yeah, so you you know, we believe we're connected and stuff, and sometimes, you know, when you don't have the answers, I mean just look for it somewhere else. Like, you know, you don't have to have all the answers. Sometimes it's a lot of pressure to look for all the answers from you, you know. Yeah. So yeah, so Don and I are are universe kind of girls, and um, we we get our information from the universe, and uh sometimes we think, oh, maybe we should give back. We've been blessed with universe universal signs. Perhaps perhaps we should be the universal signs. So so today we are looking at you, and I don't know who needs to hear this, but we're gonna tell you. You go you're gonna learn that. Go and tell you. And much like you know, if you are into that random sign in the in the window, or the rain starts, and you're like, I should break up with him, you know. Yes, yes. Or if you like even go into the the tattooing, you know, yes, wherever you might delve, it might be your sign today. So that's what we're talking about, okay? Now, Ron Lynn, your journey with the universe. Tell me a bit about it.
SPEAKER_03Oh my from the beginning.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no, please. Oh, what did I do? This is this is why I don't interview Ron Lynn because I will be stuck really. How much information do you want? I got it. Um, I would like a brisk amount of information.
SPEAKER_03Um, okay. Uh let me think. I is it good. I've always it's good. I've always believed in fate. I think ever since I was young, I'm starting at the beginning. I'm sorry. You got I got an album. Ever since I was young. I believed in fate, you know, and I never really knew like how to conceptualize it, but I always just knew that there was like something about being written in the stars, you know. And then as I as we got older, I learned about like the star signs and stuff. And then we got really into that for the while. Super intention. And that was just like the pattern, you know, that the app the pattern played in butter, checking it every morning, waiting until midnight to check it again so I can see the next day stuff. And then I did a little bit of the tarot stuff as well, the tarot readings. I didn't get very far because it was weirdly intense. It was weirdly like I feel like you're sitting on a talent that you just kind of was too much. I felt too enlightened at some point. It's like I need I need a breath from myself. So good. I think good. I do, I think I've got some kind of um like a core line to the universe. You know?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. First time hearing, ladies and gentlemen, we are all learning today.
SPEAKER_03I think we all do. You know, I just think we have to allow ourselves to tap into it. You know, like you say, we're all part of the same ecosystem. You know? So you just gotta you gotta find out what what your number is to call the universe from or your your network. Your network?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because the network will give you the number.
SPEAKER_02No, you uh if you you you're the number, you know, you you already know, like what?
SPEAKER_03Why would you find But the network gives you the number? No, listen, yeah me out. Okay.
SPEAKER_02You were saying you've got like a line or connection. I can call. Yeah, you can call. So I'm assuming you already got the number, girl.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I got the number to the universe.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I think the universe is not gonna have a lot of numbers, you know. He's got one number, you've got one number. So you either got the number, you don't got the number. Okay. So I'm like, you just gotta find your network, you know. Okay, I see what you're saying. So you're not gonna be like, I have a different number to call the universe, you have a different number to call the universe.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I see what you're saying. What I was saying was a number to call from, but I wouldn't need to know my number because I'm just making the call, so that doesn't really make any sense. No, you're right. Okay, find your network. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Um, but yeah, yeah, I I think my connection, not that you asked, but I'm gonna. What about you? Thanks, Donna. Um uh yeah, I think it's it's good, it's a tumultuous experience, um, which is good. I think tumultuousness is good. I like up and down. Tumultsion. I like up and down. I I get uneasy when it's the same. That freaks me out even more.
SPEAKER_03But what's the down?
SPEAKER_02Like, I'm just you know, like sometimes you get, you know, a bad hand, you know? Things are tough. Shit's happening, you know, and that I believe is also from the universe. You've got to get the bad thing. Everything happens for the easy.
SPEAKER_03Do you know what the bad things are good? Do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02So I I I am a firm believer of like if you have a challenge in front of you or something bad is happening, that is your opportunity to grow. Like, you know, that's your opportunity to grow.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um such woo.
SPEAKER_02That's your opportunity to do it. I don't want to delve into my advice, uh, you know. Yeah, that's not this episode. That's not what it's so um, so yeah, so and and another thing, like I also believe in like the connection. Like, I like I I've always enjoyed um the Eastern philosophy of yoga, and like ever since I was a kid, also. It's one of the weirder things that I just took to. And um, yeah, I've been meditating for very long. And it's something that I do constantly all the time. And it's you know what? I'll say this like in the beginning it was really tough. It's hard. It's so hard. But I'm at a point, bro, I can just turn it on. I can lock in, bro. I get scared when I'm in a day. I'm like, and I'm in dead. I'm just like switch lanes, and it's so helpful. Yeah, it's genuinely so helpful. Like I know um like the difference you feel, you don't you don't know that you need it until you do it and you realize the difference between you now in a rested, calm mindset, yeah and where you are. And before when you are in that sort of heightened, busy, you know, kind of um neurotic, anxious state, you know, stress, whatever's happening in your life, your brain is functioning on what it needs to function on. So you I I for me You're surviving. So you're not like, oh uh things are like it's hard to perceive how bad it is, you know? Oh I know, girl.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I'm I'm not sure if everyone's like that. But for me, when I'm in it, I don't realize how because I'm surviving, so I don't realize how bad it is until I do that and I have that problem. You know, and then I do it, I meditate for a bit, and I switch off and I disengage and I calm myself down, and then I'm like, holy shit, where was I?
SPEAKER_03Okay, so you use it for like a um like a recentering, or do you use it like when you're like, oh, I need to like decide on something or there's something big going on, you use it to like um focus on something.
SPEAKER_02I I use it like my allergies very practical. I should have known. I use it like my allergies. It's better to use it like preemptively preemptively than to wait and because for you to switch to this state from such a like knotted up place is more difficult. Yes. So instead, what I try to use it as is to like keep me level, keep me level, keep me. You don't wanna you know, you wanna build the resilience of like coming back every time. Yeah, you want to come back every time. So if I leave myself to get that far away, I'm so stressed. That's not good. That's it. Yeah, and now I'm like, oh let me meditate. It's gonna be so difficult to get into that head space. So I try to use it more like uh I do it as much as I can when I feel something's happening, rather, or even when there's not something when I'm in a good mood as well, you know, just so that's foster that also. Yeah, also, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So so so it's it's really not that I was gonna say what uh because I think what happens because when you first told me about the meditating thing like years ago, I had like I was I was getting into it, and I had kind of gotten to a point where it took me a little while, like maybe like 20 minutes, but like I you could do it, yeah, yeah. And now I get so scared when I do it. And I don't know if it's because I'm still so aware of my surroundings, but like I don't know, it feels feels like I don't know, your eyes are closed, it's quiet. I don't know, you feel like something's gonna get you, you know?
SPEAKER_02I think you just relax. Do it with your eyes open. Then I get distracted, then I'm looking at all around. So that's the thing. Look, I just a disclaimer, I am not like a pro or nothing, you know. Just want to get it. Get right into it. I think you're another one. I started strong, and I just want to, you know, woo girls, easy. Um, I just I'm not like a pro, but I've been doing it for long enough to find like what works for me. And what I realize is when I speak to people, like there's this version of meditation that people have in their mind, um, where you like slip into this yogi state. Yeah. But to be quite honest, like if you've ever been like uh like you if it like if you've been panicked or something and somebody's like, just just breathe, just calm down. Just try to slow your heart a just calm down. That's exactly what you're doing. You're just trying to calm your body and your nervous system, essentially.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02So I'm not saying if you add in like the Eastern philosophy and what you you can they you can go deeper, yeah, but essentially you're trying to calm your nervous system down, calm yourself down, center yourself in terms of like your focus, because we are in this busy hustle and bustle, and so our brains are constantly taking information in and sp muscles are tensing up and we're doing things, and it's nice to just calm that nervous system and like relax and like disengage a little bit. Yeah, yeah. So it's not like as voodoo magic-y if you don't want it to be, you know. And so if you're there's like a lighter version of it, yeah, there's there's different versions of it, whatever it may be. Some people, I mean, I've read also that like some of the some of the more um apt meditators can do meditation while in motion and walking around and try to center themselves. So it's not necessarily you don't have to be in it. It's just the easiest position. But there's something it's just the easiest position to get you there. That's the best place to start, I think. It's not necessarily like if I'm anxious and I'm at work, I can do it there, I can calm myself down, I can get into a zone, I can refocus, I can and I don't need to sit down.
SPEAKER_03So it's just about like slowing down on the inside.
SPEAKER_02So I that's why the breathing is so important. Yeah, yeah, it really like settles yourself. But I remember uh last weekend I was trying to hypnotize you. So you were sitting there and you were like zoning now. It's like just listen to my voice, just pay attention to what's it out, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But that's that like fuzzy feeling.
SPEAKER_02That's meditation, yeah, you know. Essentially, that's you're you're in there basically, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02So like your eyes are open, you can do it, you can just because you can kind of zone out and dissociate a little bit, like stay at one point. Yeah, and also the thing I like about meditation is like just like if you go to gym and you're like working something out, you are essentially with meditation uh working out your control over your thoughts. So distraction, and you are um giving yourself that like strength towards autonomy of like focus.
SPEAKER_03So I think that that's my question. Because I I think for me, I'm almost like when I do it, I'm like, how how do I know that I've gotten there? Because I'm like, am I supposed to not be thinking about anything? Or is it that I'm like focusing on like like oh breathe in, breathe out, and that's the only thought?
SPEAKER_02Or you know, like like can can my mind still drift and can while I'm my while while I'm meditating still be like oh I need to do this, or but that and that's so so so what what for me like I'll be sitting there and then like at first I'm like oh and my head is busy and I'm jumping
Here’s your signs
SPEAKER_02to a thought and my body's still tense and I I can't quite like sit there and just be there. And it's such a nuanced sentence, I know, but like if I'm if I'm sitting, I'm thinking, uh I've got something to do. But those like those quiet those it doesn't like say it in a sentence, but you just remember that you have to do something or you think about something that you have to that you want to do, or you're like, Oh yeah, I wonder how I feel about it, but it doesn't form like a th the idea just pops into your head, you know? Like it like the the thought you you're not saying in your head, Oh, and tomorrow I'd like to go to the shop. It just you kind of just go, I'm gonna go to the shop tomorrow. You know what?
SPEAKER_03It's like a I feel like I always think in conversation.
SPEAKER_02In conversation, god damn, well that's a difference, I think. Yeah. For me, sometimes it just like you know, it's not like a full sentence, it's like it just pops out.
SPEAKER_03Is it is it like well who's talking? I don't know. Like is like do you is it like oh I remember that I have to do this?
SPEAKER_02No, it's it's it's it's like a it it's not words, it's just like like an idea, a full idea, and then it's then I'm like, uh, you know, just that's wild. Like it's not I don't say a sentence. Yeah, it just is an idea. Like, I don't know, is this a thing?
SPEAKER_03Like I think so. I think we just discovered something. I think we should change what we're talking about today because this is interesting.
SPEAKER_02Like I'll sit there and I'll be like maybe I'll think, okay, for the podcast. I'll be like, oh, I need to come up with ideas for the podcast. But instead of thinking, I need to come up with ideas for the podcast, an idea for the podcast might come up, and and then I'm like, oh, I'm coming up with ideas for the podcast, I need to come up with it. But I'm not thinking that sentence because I came up with one idea. I'm assuming I'm like, oh, I I need to think, I think, oh, this one idea is making me. Yeah, you know, but in my inner monologue of not saying anything, I know that I need to and so now I want to come up with more ideas. Like when you get hungry, you just want to eat. You don't think I want to eat, you know?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So like that.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, I see what you I think okay. The hungry thing is curious. I do wonder how I think about being hungry. But like with the podcast thing, I'll think like, oh, like I need to come up with ideas for the podcast, and then I'll like it's like I'm speaking to someone in my head. So I'll say the sentence in my head, I'll be like, I need to come up with it, and I'll be like, so what do you like what like what are things that are like relevant right now? What happened to me lately? And I'll speak like in my head like that, and then I'll be like, oh, maybe I can talk about this, and the whole thing is just a conversation in my head. Then I'll be like, oh maybe I should go and check here, and then I'll go check, then I'll be like, then I'll see something, I'll be like, Oh, that's so crazy. You know what I was thinking? And I'll talk to myself like I'm a person inside of my head.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say I do talk. I'm not saying I don't talk. Um, it's just um it's just that it's not always like that. Like it's not most of the time, it's not like a full sentence. Oh my cat. No, oopsie. Okay, sorry, we was lost the episode on the recording and my cat's here. So I was about that. He almost deleted this whole episode. Um, yeah, so so it's not always like a full thought, but maybe maybe there are people out there. I don't know, maybe you guys.
SPEAKER_03Maybe it's a little bit more middle ground. Yeah, the OTG.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, you know, let's let's let's not let's not drift into the thoughts of the thoughts of the thoughts. I mean overthinking talk about overthinking. Um, but yeah, the the meditation is good. You should try it.
SPEAKER_03I 100% uh I will try now that I know I can keep my eyes open, it's a game change.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, um, yeah, so so I do I do think you know sometimes you can prime yourself for thoughts for signs, and and like you're saying, you know, you open up the network, and that's you know, that's one of one of my like hotlines. You know what I'm saying? I turn my phone on, take it to flight mode, get connected to the universe, you know. And um, yeah, like we we wanna we wanna be that message for someone, you know.
SPEAKER_01We wanna be that we wanna be like, hey, I know when that hotline blink. Because that's the thing, you don't know where the signs are gonna come from.
SPEAKER_03You don't, and it's yeah, it's kind of it's yeah.
unknownSh listen.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so we found uh some we went searching. We opened up our hotline network and we went searching universe. What do we need to know? What do we need to know? Give us let us be the medium. So we found like stuff.
SPEAKER_03We found stuff.
SPEAKER_02Stuff to say, stuff to say, phrases, things, hard truths, if you will. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02And um, we're gonna give it to you. And we're also gonna like talk about it, you know?
SPEAKER_03Of course. We'll talk about it. We're gonna talk, we're gonna talk about it. We can't help ourselves.
SPEAKER_02We'll talk about it. Even if I tried not to. We could read it to you and we could just go blah blah blah blah. But I promise at some point we're gonna get distracted. So yeah. Okay, do you wanna do you wanna go one-one one or do you wanna go? Yeah, let's go one-one one. Okay, you wanna go first. I think you have more. Um, I do have more. Okay. Do you remember when you were like, oh, you're getting into it? What was I saying? Getting into it. Yeah, earlier I was like, oh, and then you were like, Oh, you said it was such meaning.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I don't know. This is our bad memory, so that was like 10 minutes ago. Anyway, whatever. Damn, so I was man. No, it's a good idea. We should start keeping notes.
SPEAKER_02It's like minutes while we've decode ourselves.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that would help. Um, okay. Okay, maybe I shouldn't preface it, but I'm gonna preface it. Okay. Look, I couldn't find a lot of not serious ones. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, we don't, we don't, we don't want to get we don't want to like hurt people. We don't want to get you. I don't want to get like too like Yeah, we wanted to be light-hearted messages, sweet messages, like a little light kiss. You know?
SPEAKER_03So so I'm
Sign 1: Declutter
SPEAKER_03like, I I saw this one and I thought it was funny. So okay. So we're gonna say the whole thing every time. Otherwise it doesn't make sense. Right? Okay. Okay. Um I don't know who needs to hear this, but you can throw away the box your phone came in. You're not gonna use it.
SPEAKER_02That's crazy because I saw that a while ago, and we had all of our boxes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03People like on and they're like showing all their boxes, and they're like, okay, I use it for like presents. And I'm like, you don't use it. They're like, oh, I can wrap a present in if I need to, or I could use it to like store things if I need to. And I'm like always because it's such a nice box.
SPEAKER_02Everyone's always like, I should just keep it. I always thought you had to keep it in case something goes wrong.
SPEAKER_03No, you don't have to keep it, man.
SPEAKER_02It's such an old school millennial thing to do. Keep the box. Because back then you had to keep the box. Did you? Yeah, you had to keep the box with like the serial numbers and stuff, and if something goes wrong, you Oh I guess because before you would take it back to the shop.
SPEAKER_03Whereas now, if something happens, you'll go to your insurance or the police.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I don't know. Well, when my phone got stolen, I had to go to the police and then insurance.
SPEAKER_03But I mean back then there was you they never asked for your box. Like you're not gonna go back to the show.
SPEAKER_02They asked for like the serial number of and then we did have to find it, this E something number that was on the box.
SPEAKER_03On the box? Well, maybe I'm wrong. No, but you can you're not gonna need it. Yeah, there's no way. No, yeah, that's fine. I don't know. I've never needed my phone box before. I remember puck numbers. You remember puck numbers? Yes. That was the last time I remember keeping a box. Oh my god, why did we use a puck number? I don't I think like if you got locked out of your phone for some reason. I don't know why. Oh, that sounds so familiar.
SPEAKER_01PUCK number.
SPEAKER_03But mum still needs some number. If she if she switches her phone off and it switches back on, she needs a pin that's like on her SIM card or something. Not like her phone, that not the pin that unlocks her phone.
SPEAKER_02Remember when we used to take the batteries out of our own phones?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. She dust it off.
SPEAKER_02I feel like I would take my phone somewhere to get the battery out of the next one.
SPEAKER_03Or if you drop your phone in public, then the battery just is out of the cover.
SPEAKER_02Hecky. Oh man. Thanks for that throwback. Didn't feel old. Do know. Now we do. Yeah, that's your message for you. And remember puff notes? Okay. I went I I couldn't find ones that wouldn't like serious. Yeah. So I went. Like I've made up a lot of mine also. Oh lovely. That's nice. It's nice. Interesting. Rolyn is the medium. She does do the telecards. So yeah, here you go, Golden.
Sign 2: Believe in yourself
SPEAKER_03These are the messages I just got, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, just came to Um. Okay, so so my one, and Ron and I spoke about this one before, so she knows it's coming here this one. Uh I don't know who needs to hear this, but believe in yourself. The way you believed you was busy for 13 hours. Now I know there's a there's a gal out there. Yeah. Gal or a guy out there. Just waiting.
SPEAKER_03Waiting. Waiting. And you're checking the time, 10 hours, 11 hours. Waiting on blue, waiting on gray, waiting on blue or gray, don't matter. Maybe you went to work. Maybe he's working overtime.
SPEAKER_02And then when he comes back, he's like, oh, I was just, you know, busy with that, that, and this and that. And you're like, probably. And that that's where now that's where we're coming in here. We're saying really? Really?
SPEAKER_03But if you can believe if you can believe in that, believe in yourself, you can believe in anything bigger.
SPEAKER_02And put it to you, baby girl. Reflect it back. Have you been that delusional about something?
SPEAKER_03About something in Jesus.
SPEAKER_02About someone. I you made a face. I'm gonna go with someone. I check on my mind. I'm pivoting. I'm pivoting.
SPEAKER_03About someone? Um no, but I do believe that people have that been that delusional about me. I believe I'm the person on the other end of that, unfortunately. You're a little flicks. Oh my gosh. What can I say? Little flicks. I'm feeling a little uh open to the universe today, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I believe that.
SPEAKER_02I I can't imagine you being that person to someone. Yeah, I can't imagine you thinking, not yet, but maybe.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, hopefully I'll find someone that makes speedu. Yeah, I would like to. Have you?
SPEAKER_02Have I?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure. I have no problem like obsessing over a guy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I I I'm like even a friend. Like even a friend, like I like, you know, like I'll have patience for that, and the person's like, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03But like like in terms of like believing their the Luluness, you know? Like if they come back and they're like, oh, um I was just so busy, you know, I couldn't like message anything. Like you're not you're not believing it in the same way that you believe a guy, right? Because to believe a guy, you have to have that kind of like if you don't believe him, then you can't carry on doing what you're doing with him, which you kinda want to do. So you have to convince him.
SPEAKER_02And what is that? You know, you just you want it, you want it bad, bad. Yeah, you really want it.
SPEAKER_03And so you like act, I don't want to look like a fool. So if I don't believe it, then I can't justify states.
SPEAKER_02Also, if you don't believe it, then you gotta face that, you gotta probably end it. Yeah, and you don't want to.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to do that, so you know. And yeah, so just you know So you don't have to do that, but just take that same belief. And that's what I want to do yourself.
SPEAKER_02Don't worry, I'm not telling you, you keep believing in both. Just both, you know, add you in there, give some of it to you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay. Okay, this one is kind of like in the same vein. I should have brought a pen to scratch these out as I go. Um okay. I don't know who needs to hear this, but delete the paragraph. You still won't get it. That one that one came from me. I just felt like out there there was there was someone I needed to tell this to. I tapped in.
SPEAKER_02Poor, poor soul.
SPEAKER_03That poor soul trying to help.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Fair. Fair. I I do think that's fair because I do find that women overexplain. You don't have to explain it. And also, as an overthinker, we tend to do that. Exactly. We want to we want to like uh create context for ourselves so much, and sometimes it's to our detriment. We overexplain, and so you you you can also explain yourself in and then back out. Yes. You know, you can back in and then back out.
SPEAKER_03And then and then you like, and where am I? Where and then you kind of give them the out because now everyone's confused and it's like, oh, it's okay, let's just leave it. You don't you don't want to end up there? You know, you don't want to end up there. You probably have the upper hand already. Just be cool. Yeah, just leave it. Just be cool. You've explained yourself. Don't say K. Oh, okay. You can say K, but that sends it. K. Just like one letter. I think kicking sending one letter and sending a whole paragraph have the same energy.
SPEAKER_02So send okay. A sentence. A sentence.
SPEAKER_03Oh, just one sentence. You know, not two sentences, one sentence, one comma. It's gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER_02Easy peasies, yeah. Easy peasies. Um, okay, well, fuck me, no. Uh next one. If you're out there, this one's for you. Stop asking your friends if you should do it. You're gonna do it. You're wasting everyone's time. Just go do it, girl.
SPEAKER_03I'm just saying. You know, I will agree with you. I I know people that ask for advice, even though we both know sitting there that you're not asking me. You do this is you telling me you're gonna do it, pretty much.
SPEAKER_02Pretty much, and you just checking, like on you, you're gauging how nuts it is. You know, you're like, okay, that reaction, I'll take it. You were gonna do it. You were just gonna go, how much of a job? How do I approach it? Okay. How much of a joke I'm gonna do it? That's what I think they say. That's what I think they say. They're like, oh yeah, okay. Okay, so I can't tell her the rest of the story. Okay, do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03And you keep telling people, you keep asking for the advice, and you kind of find it when somebody's like we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_02You're like, I will tell her the whole story.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, I got you. I thought it was more like uh a gauging on how to approach it, you know, because you're like, I'm all heated now. But if I tell someone about it, gauging from their reaction, I can kind of see, you know, is it as is it that crazy? Do I need to go in a little bit lighter and then add up to the crazy?
SPEAKER_02I think that could be that could be a national gal in there getting it, but I mean I'm talking to that gal. Don't waste your friend's time.
SPEAKER_03Don't waste your friend's time. There are other things to talk about. Yeah, come back and travel there. You know, even if they judge and they want to.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you don't want the tailor. Just put me in the movie.
SPEAKER_03Put me in the movie.
SPEAKER_02You know you're gonna enjoy it. Put me in the movie.
SPEAKER_03You like the main character.
SPEAKER_02You were here for season one and two. Let's not kid ourselves, okay? You need to see the story close.
SPEAKER_03Damn, okay. It's tough.
SPEAKER_02There's there's someone listening right now. And if all of them hit, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_03No, if all of them hit, you're welcome. Okay? We're doing this as a public service, okay? There's nothing to apologize for. Okay, this is another light-hearted one, but I think this is one of those ones that we all know, but someone needs to say it out loud. You know? I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're going through a rough time right now, leave your hair alone. Don't catch it before you did it. Yes, this one, this one was personally. I was like, you know, what do I need to hear? If I were listening to this episode, I want to hear the advice to you, Girl. That's how I know you. I've done this too many times. And every time I'm like, no, no, no, I know what I'm doing. And in the back of your head, you know that, like, oh, you know what, I'm going through something. I just want to feel nice. That sentence right there is trouble.
SPEAKER_02That sentence right there is trouble. I would go so far as to say, leave your hair alone and leave your bank account alone.
SPEAKER_03Leave your bank account alone.
SPEAKER_02Just don't dopamine spendle. You don't need to do it. Don't change you, don't change your bank account numbers, don't change nothing. Just take a breather, you know, just sit there.
SPEAKER_03Don't do anything. If you're having enough time, sit still.
SPEAKER_02Oh, meditate, get in your zone, hotline bling. Okay, that's it. Did you did you change have you changed your hair because of like a trauma? You know, like have you have you been like, you know what, I'm fucking sick and then show and then change your hair? Um, I don't I don't know if it's been in like uh I know you you've you've pulled your hair out because you're stressed. Yeah, I do that. It's a bit of a help. And that's why I'm like, you need to leave your hair alone for that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's straight up. And also besides the pulling, you you pull your curl. Um currently. Yeah, you pull your curl.
SPEAKER_03And then she's upset because my hair's a so thin and because you're okay. This isn't about that. This isn't a called on and out episode. Um but yes, I did. Um it wasn't because of it wasn't a reaction to a trauma directly, but I was in a bad space and I was feeling gross and ugly, and so I decided to cut bangs, obviously, because you know we've all been there. Because bangs are the answers. I I look like Lionel Richie, guys.
SPEAKER_02Like I if you are at the bottom of the battle and you found bangs, know that there's no deeper than that.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. It's you have found the bottom. You can cut bangs when you're in a good mood, and they can turn out beautiful. But every single time you do it and you're in a bad space, it never works out. It's just not a good idea.
SPEAKER_02My whole high school career, I kept cutting the bang, I kept cutting it, kept cutting it. You had one full bag. I had I was when when they say curtain bang, it was a drape. You had drape bangs. Floor to ceiling, ceiling to floor, just full the beaver swish. Two stories worth of bangs, bro. You know those rich people houses where the windows touch two floors up and they've got a curtain to match? I was at the curtain. It's like six meters long. Yeah, me. I was at the curtain. All those houses, me.
SPEAKER_03It was cute though. Yeah, no, I don't know. That didn't seem like trauma bangs. Those worked for you. You know? Have you done anything crazy to your hair in like a you you make pretty good decisions with your hair?
SPEAKER_02Because I I don't change my hair because of like trauma. I like changing my hair, so I'll change my hair because of good. I feel good, you know. Well, I want to change. Or I think I've changed it so much that it doesn't have the attachment to anything happening. Okay, that's fair. Do you know what I'm saying? I've kind of done it. Something's always happening and you're always cutting it up.
SPEAKER_03You know, so now it doesn't exactly, but yeah, don't do it, guys. No, for sure. That's just wait a week or two. Don't not do it. Take the screenshot of the hairstyle, wait a week or two, relook at it. That's all I'm gonna say. Um so I saw this one.
SPEAKER_02This one is this is tough. So I'm gonna this is one for discussion. I'm gonna have for discussion. Um I don't know how. So this one is uh leave your inner child alone. It's not your inner child, it's your ego. Oh you just want to be a victim right now.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's tough. You know? Oh, that's a tough one. Oh, we're getting tough. Yeah, that that that's my only tough one.
SPEAKER_02The list is not so tough. Yeah, that's yeah. So leave that inner child. You you're trying to pamper it, you're trying to, it's your ego.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I need to to fix my inner child. I need to see my inner child. Oh, it's your ego.
SPEAKER_02That's it is a bit tough. Did you see that online or did that come to you? No, no, I saw it. Someone said it and I was like, oh wow.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's that's thought provoking. I haven't seen someone speak about uh the inner child like that. It's usually like uh, oh everyone's like ignoring it. You need to like, you know, I haven't seen someone be like, it's an excuse.
SPEAKER_02It's an excuse, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because sometimes it is, it's an excuse. Yeah. Because sometimes you are healing. Oh no, for sure. Look but sometimes you're stroking your ego to win it, and you're like, I just need because I I had this happen to me.
SPEAKER_02And so and you can always find a reason if you dig enough. Oh yeah, if you dig deep enough, for sure. And that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's always, but I'm saying to the person who needs to hear it, it's not your inner child, it's your it's your ego. You're soaking it, you've it's making arm little baby. Oh, please. You're justifying yourself in a bad acting, you know? It's your ego dressed up like this little victim baby, and you're coddling it and you're holding it. Let it go.
SPEAKER_03It's your ego in your inner child's clothes. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's kind of like a wolf in sheep's clothing.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I did get the metaphor, but then it just was the clothes of the child and the child's skin, and then it started turning. Oh, okay. It's like I imagine that in sheep's clothing. But let's not kid ourselves. It's the skin. It's the skin of the sheep into my brain. You see, I didn't think it in words, but the thought happened. Do you know what I'm saying? Okay, so all of your thoughts are intrusive, is what you're telling me.
SPEAKER_00Basically, there's a never order, they just have to do it.
SPEAKER_02They never, yeah. They just I always like to think about my thoughts and my creativity like a slot machine. It's like a randomly generated slot machine. It's just constantly generating damage. But you have to put something in. Yeah, life's putting stuff in. Okay. Yeah. And then it just Oh, but this, how about this together? How about that together? It's so fun.
SPEAKER_03No, dude, it's not. I'm tired of talking. Maybe that's why I don't talk so much out loud because I'm there's so much conversation in my head.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's too much. I'm like, it'd be nice to just be like.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I would describe you as a quiet person.
SPEAKER_03You know?
SPEAKER_02I think that's now it's because you out here like, girl, no, tomorrow, and then yeah.
SPEAKER_03Sometimes I'll get to your house and then I'll have to be like, I've already had this conversation with you in my head like five times. And then I have to have it again. And this time, like sometimes it'll go the way that I imagined in my head. CDs? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_03We've been friends for a long time. I can pretty much imagine your reaction.
SPEAKER_02That's fair.
SPEAKER_03I but then sometimes it doesn't, and then it makes me feel like frustrated because I'm like I didn't prepare for this. Yeah, I didn't prepare. Like, I don't know how to respond to this now, you know?
SPEAKER_02That is that is. I'm just gonna, you know, I don't know who needs to hear this. It's it online. That's autistic, man. It is autistic. That's that's an to to feel like you have to prepare for like a social interaction and then it's not even so I'm coming to your house. I mean, it's social, it's a friend, it's social, you know. And then when I don't outward, and then when you're rehearsing, and then I don't.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, I didn't plan for this.
SPEAKER_03That is yeah, that's fair. Yeah, that's an autistic panic right there. It's autistic panic, that's what I'm trying to say. That's a tough one, dude. I'm gonna I'm gonna use that. I don't know to who. But keep that in my pocket. Careful.
SPEAKER_02You know how you're like, oh, I'm walking out with a load of guy. It's a grenade. It's a grenade. It's a grenade. I can't wait. Because I'm like, I'm just the alms dealer right now, and I am handing out bullets.
SPEAKER_03Because I just know that when it's true, like it's true for whoever's listening right now, that person, whoever that's true for, I know it hit.
SPEAKER_02And and also just when it hit, like, no, it's coming out of a good place. We're not judging you. I I I'm gonna take that. Sometimes I'm gonna think it for myself because I need to choke. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03I think because it's such a harsh truth, I think when you need to hear it and you heard it, I think it's something that can set you straight immediately.
SPEAKER_02This is just so I had read um The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck. And one of the things that always stood out for me with that book is the disappointment panda. Yes, which is like a lot. You were saying like he if he could pick an ideal superhero, he would pick this, you know, panda that would come in and tell you like the harsh, honest truth. And it's disappointment panda when you you know you're all up in there.
SPEAKER_03That's kind of what this is. These are all disappointment pandas.
SPEAKER_02These are all disappointment pandas in in an in a sense. And so sometimes when Ron and I are really like up in the knots of our minds, sometimes we go, and we don't use it very lightly, hey. This is one of those, you know, you've gotta be careful, it's gonna hurt. Yeah, and then we say, Listen, this is a bit of a disappointment panda, but then you know to place yourself, and then you just be like, okay, and you're like in your most vulnerable state, like you're you just you over the door, yeah, your knees are hurting, your elbows are tingling, your heart's beating, you're sweating, your one eye is literally like just pulsing. And then somebody says, Oh, this is a disappointment, you're like, Okay, I can take it. I can't take it. But that's when you need it the most. It's like it's like it's like a slap across the face, you know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Sobers you up immediately, you know.
SPEAKER_02It can go the other way though. It can, but that's why you gotta hear it from somebody.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna say, I think if you trust who it's coming from and you trust the intention, and and that's why it's a disappointment, Panda, because it's not about like um taming it down or like being like, oh, I'm gonna simper you right now and kind of tell you the truth. It's the the flattest, drawest version of the truth. And I think that's why it helps, because you need to be open to yearing this person and you need to trust them enough to like accept it, and then it works. If not, then it's just mean. Yeah. So careful, don't do it with everyone. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Also know where the exits are, just in case. Just in case.
SPEAKER_03Just and I've you remember I've got this in my pocket. So if you approach me at any point, I will blow us both up. Oh, okay. Let's see, let's see. This one, this one is also this one is also for me.
SPEAKER_02I tapped in, and I tapped in for me. I tapped in for me.
SPEAKER_03But this one was also for me, and I kind of saw it online, and I was like, oh, I didn't know that this is a thing that people don't do, you know. But it's also a bit lighthearted, okay? But it's serious.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm back, I'm back in this. No, it's not that serious. Okay. I don't know who needs to hear this, but yes, you do need to check your oil and water. You always say, no, I can hear you. They come to you and hey, check oil and water. No, thanks, just petrol today. You need to check it.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03Every now and then you need to check it.
SPEAKER_02100% run. I'm just looking out for you. You don't want to be on the road one day. I feel bad because it would 100% apply to me if it wasn't for Logan. Like Logan is always checking that stuff.
SPEAKER_03He checks oil and water?
SPEAKER_02I think it's a guy.
SPEAKER_03I knew I I never used to, and then my car overheated. Yeah. And now I still don't. But I know I need to. But now she knows better. Now I know I still don't do a bigger one.
SPEAKER_02She doesn't do better, but she knows better. And that's a start. And that's a start.
SPEAKER_03And then I'm just trying to help you know better. So hopefully you do better.
SPEAKER_02What what what is the like the woman mental health equivalent of checking your oil and water?
SPEAKER_03What do you mean?
SPEAKER_02Like what would like you know how the same relationship women have with checking their oil and water. What is something like a mental health or woman thing that would be the equivalent of it? Am I making sense? Kind of. For woman. For woman, yeah. Like, you know, check that you re-upped on tampons.
SPEAKER_03You know, like wipe from front to back.
SPEAKER_02No, we do that. No, we do that, right? We all do. Please, please. But but you know, like something that that we like, we know we're supposed to, and we and we do, and then we don't, and then it, you know.
SPEAKER_03Like we we know we need to do it more than we do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a tough one. And it's like it's it's it's literally one of those things. Sinking water.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03You need to drink more water, guys. Yeah. And we're gonna add that. I don't know. You have not had enough water to have water. I don't know who you are. Everyone does it. All of it.
SPEAKER_02You probably haven't had enough today. Adults, young children, young adults. Babies don't give babies water. Don't give babies water. A pet is a until they die. I don't know if this is. Did we check that? That's true, yeah. Fact checked it. Okay, nice.
SPEAKER_03But I think it's like till they like maybe six months or something. Yeah. No, dude. They'll freaking die. Their blood will thin. How creepy is that?
SPEAKER_02That is very creepy. That milk is just what they need to survive.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it'd be like 90% wooden. No, not my baby is 90% milk.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, until you're six months old, you're just 90% milk. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's why they're so soft. It doesn't sit well with me. Next time I see a baby and like they're all squishy and stuff, I'm gonna be like, You're made of milk. They do kind of always smell like milk. Oh, you're right. I thought that's because they throw up. Oh. Don't they like always like they do? And it's just a part of them now, you know. But you might be right. Maybe even after you wash a baby and you smell them and they still smell like milk. They don't smell like milk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, then they're because their heads always smell like milk. Because they're 90% mold.
SPEAKER_02We're starting to find the real facts here. This is what Overthinker's Guide is all about. It's about the crux of the crux.
SPEAKER_03You say crux a lot.
SPEAKER_02Do you?
SPEAKER_03I do. Anyway.
SPEAKER_02I've got one more. How many do you have?
SPEAKER_03I have like one.
SPEAKER_02You gotta pick one, girl.
SPEAKER_03I hate when you do this too much.
SPEAKER_02I know, you gotta pick one.
SPEAKER_03Um then I wish I didn't say the oil thing.
SPEAKER_02Why wouldn't you have chosen that?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_02But this is a good one. You got one more to you. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, fine.
SPEAKER_02Did you go one more?
SPEAKER_03Uh give me two. No. Give me two, because the one's gonna be fine fast. Okay, fine, I'll do my one more. No, but you gotta go first, because I just did the oil one.
SPEAKER_02Okay, no, no, I've got two. No, no, no, yeah, you could do it. You could do it. Okay, I got two. Okay. But you gotta go now. Um I don't know who needs to hear this, but stop giving men the benefit of the doubt and start doubting their benefits. The benefit of the man.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yes. Yes. Sometimes, sometimes, ladies, and oh my god, she's getting me into this.
SPEAKER_02I did not think it would start. Okay, get it, go.
SPEAKER_03You know, sometimes you go into a situation and you want to be a better person, you want to be the bigger person. So you're like, you know what, I'll overlook some things, but how about you start underlooking some things?
SPEAKER_02Okay, how about you start delaying medium day, baby, not well done. Okay.
SPEAKER_03How about you start digging things up? Sometimes when he says a normal sentence like, oh, work was okay today.
SPEAKER_02Bring the receipt.
SPEAKER_03Yes, dig a little bit. Be like, what do you mean it was okay? Because you know Tuesdays usually aren't a good day for you. So why was today? Just sometimes just dig where there's no need to dig.
SPEAKER_02I saw I saw a lot of like um I saw this video of this girl making this, and then you know, when there's like a popular, like a video that goes viral, and then different people do versions of it. So I'm seeing a lot of them pop up, and there's this video of this girl sitting in. And she's like, I don't get enough credit for how not crazy I am. Yes. Because I can turn it up. And that's the thing, like everyone. You're always turning it down. Yeah, every woman will resonate with that, I think. And that you are always summitting it down because there is so much more in you, you know? And I think maybe it's like a societal women need to be this soft and dainty, and so you don't want to be a bitch, and so you you summit it down. But like genuinely, for the guys listening, they are always turning it down. They can all turn it up, they can all turn it up so much. It's a choice. It's a choice. You're laying next to a mad woman. Yeah. That's calming the storm every night.
SPEAKER_03Some are better than others. She's such a wild horse, you know. She's just yeah, she's calming the wild. Yeah. Yeah. And also, you know, you don't want to like you saying you're keeping all this crazy in all the time, you're taming it down. At some point it's gonna explode. Oh, yeah. You've got to let that lid off every now and then.
SPEAKER_02And this is really good. And this is why you need this.
SPEAKER_03Because every now and then, just be crazy for no reason. Just be just doing it. And then put the lid back on.
SPEAKER_02And then just be like, mm-hmm. That's right. Anyway, that's just a table.
SPEAKER_03Be grateful. Um okay. Okay, this one I just yeah, okay. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you don't need to unblock him. Now, this one, I know what you're thinking. I know what you're thinking. Usually it's like you should block him, right? You should get some display. What did you say? You don't? You don't need to unblock. Unblock him. Unblock him. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, leave him blocked. Leave him, leave him blocked. Yeah, that's always good advice. You know what I mean? If if you got to Blocksville, stay there.
SPEAKER_03Because you're you're curious. You're like, oh, let me unblock me. Oh, I don't want to be petty. Let me.
SPEAKER_02You don't need to. You you never give your citizenship back from Blocksville. You know, you are now a member, full-fledged Blocksville. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03You've made the choice. Don't doubt yourself. You made the choice. Stick by your choice. Believe in yourself. You know?
SPEAKER_02But what if you're curious?
SPEAKER_03Then you go to a friend that also has their number and you check. You set up a private. But the problem, the problem with unblocking is once once the because why do you block someone?
SPEAKER_02Rage.
SPEAKER_03Rage, okay.
SPEAKER_02Um period emotions.
SPEAKER_03Yes, ah, yeah, of course. That's a big one. Pretty much covers everything. And overlays with the rage, though. But usually you feel all these emotions because they did something to you. It's very rare that you're getting to blocks full for nothing happening. Right? So now you you blocked the blood.
SPEAKER_02Not that it doesn't, it does happen.
SPEAKER_03It does happen because of the period emotions, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about when you're you're justified, which usually you are. So now you you've closed the door, you've blocked him. You don't need to see what's going on on the inside, right? And now once you open it, what will happen is much like with the I'm using hand gestures here, right? But much like with the bottling things up, the gate is closed. So now the rage is knocking against the gate all the time, right? And once you unblock it, that rage is like a charging ball. And it will run at him. Even if you don't mean for it to, the minute, the minute you unblock it, it's not up to you anymore. It's out of your hands.
unknownYou know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02You're just like a full media man, just all crazy, kicking your legs up in the down, you know.
SPEAKER_03So you just you don't need to do it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Fair, fair. Yeah, I I don't think there's very many reasons why I wouldn't give that advice, you know, be like, oh, you blocked this guy, probably for a good reason. You know what you should do tomorrow? Unblocking blocking. Then I take you back to the one of my ones. You know, the the stop messaging your friends and and just do the thing, and you know what she's doing.
SPEAKER_03She's unblocking him. Yeah, and then she's blocking, she's having the whole conversation, the fight, and then she's blocking him again, and then weeks later she's like, So I did a thing. You guys are having some April splitzers in a glass of mine. And she's like, so I did a thing, guys.
SPEAKER_02You see, you see? I told you. It's it's a it's a we've all been there, it's a circle. It's a circle, it's a circle.
SPEAKER_03All of these are about the same person as well. We're speaking to one specific person, one specific person.
SPEAKER_02Okay, my last one. I've got one more. I don't know who needs to hear this, but it could be you.
SPEAKER_03Okay, for what?
SPEAKER_02It could be you. What's inspirational? I don't mean it like that. Oh yeah. Like, you know, when you like you could get it. You know, like you know how you like, like when you're having this thing and you're like, and then this person said that, and then I said this, and then like, am I crazy? Oh, you could be the problem. It could be you, bro. It could be you, it could be you, and it's healthy to think that sometimes I I think that to myself. Could it be me? And I think it's a good thing to this one. I I I made up because I was like, I use this when I'm like, the more confused I get, the more I go, could it be?
SPEAKER_03Could it be you? Because sometimes when you Because once it's muddied, it's hard to know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and also you like you know, you're up in there, you know, you're doing your thing, and it just gets wild, and then you get more defensive, you double down, you think you're crazy, you double down, and then at some point you gotta be like, wait, I need to pull myself down. Am I crazy? Yeah, and so I'm saying, Are you the problem? It could be you.
SPEAKER_03Could be you. Could be you. That is that's good advice. I think that that's just a good way to, much like with the meditating, check in with yourself. You know, it could be you, go. You know? It probably is if you're if you have a few friends with us. If and if you find yourself there a lot, it could be you, it could be you. It's probably you. You know it's you, what do we do? Okay, well, about knowing it's you, that kind of that's a good segue to my one. So I don't know who needs to hear this, but he's gonna tell everyone that you're crazy anyway. So cause the scene. Do it! Why the hell not, right? He's already there, it's already happened. Oof. I I don't know about this. I think I think it's because look, think about the situation. I'm thinking. Right? Okay, so who's gonna call you crazy, right? Someone who already knows that you're crazy, right? You we're talking about like, you know, you know those guys who are like, oh yeah, she's like, she's emotional, she's too much. That's the guy I'm talking about, right? Like I you don't need to watch yourself with that guy. You don't need to be like, oh, I don't wanna like cause a scene with him. No, he already thinks you're crazy. He's already gonna go out there telling people you're crazy, even though you're not, because you're sane, you're perfectly fine, you're doing great, you know. So you might as well have some fun, you might as well do whatever you want to do because it's not gonna change the outcome. So now you cut his air forces up. You know what I'm saying? So now you hold back. Take a scissors to the air forces. You know what I'm saying? So you're holding back the whole time. You're like, oh, I don't want to be a bad boss. Screw that.
SPEAKER_02Next time you get in the car, stab a few holes in the leather street. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Cut it, cut the stitch, though, it slowly falls apart.
SPEAKER_02But don't cut that, don't let it slowly fall apart. If you're gonna be there, do it. Because the steam, that inner girl in you was like, I don't want to quit. Smash the window! Okay, whoa. You see, the thing is you wanna do things where you don't get to jail, and that's just good advice.
SPEAKER_03You only gotta jail if someone sees you, keep that in mind. But you're dying.
SPEAKER_02We were one of our fans broke up with a psycho. Well, the the psycho did her dirty. And um, we were thinking about damn, like, how are we? He was gonna drop his things off, her things off. And we were like, how do we have opportunities? Yeah, like how do we bus his car up? You know, because he really liked his car. We were like, we gotta bus his car up. And we were there.
SPEAKER_03He was like doing it up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were like, the best thing we could do is when he drops off his stuff, we figure out a way to bus his car. And we were like, shit, like how would we get away with this? Like we and I and I mean I spent time thinking about it. And it was it was pretty tough, like in this modern day.
SPEAKER_03Because the the best way to do it would be because he was gonna come bring the stuff to her, which means he would have been at her house, her house, or um he ended up dropping it by you that day. So or he was gonna be by your house, which means that they wouldn't have left the car. Whereas if she went to go fetch her stuff, we could have waited in the car, she could have gone up, and we could have gone to his car without him knowing.
SPEAKER_02He lives in a gated uh complex thing with cameras and stuff and parking and yeah, so we were like, we couldn't do it there. But yeah, we you know, so so the the model of the story is just like you have to also be yeah, you have to be tactful about it. So if you are gonna get into it, by all means, you get you. Uh we support it.
SPEAKER_03Plot the cameras, yeah, you can think about the best way. You want to be safe.
SPEAKER_02You want to be safe. Don't go in the blind age and then you end up in like, you know, trouble. And that's not what we want for you.
SPEAKER_03Because if you're all in jail, who's gonna bail you out? Exactly. That's a good point. Also, if you are gonna do it, that makes me think maybe have a safety person who's home. A safety person with an emergency, like an SOS message that you can send to them just in case. But hopefully you don't need that.
SPEAKER_02Does that happen in South Africa? Like if you go to jail, somebody bails you out. Do you just sit in the in the jail cell for the night?
SPEAKER_03I assume. I don't see why they wouldn't want the money.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Interesting. Well, if you have the answer, you know, let us know. DM me, tell me. If you've been in jail, what does it look like?
SPEAKER_03Can you get bailed out immediately?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, can you can you be like anyway, I'm at jail, mom, come fetch me. Please.
SPEAKER_03Please and things.
SPEAKER_02Look, whether you whether any of this hit home, you know.
SPEAKER_03Or not. Or not. Maybe we'll get you next time. Maybe we'll circle them back to it. We'll come back.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, if it if it if it got if it got you, it sat with you just while you're listening. The best thing you can do though is Don't overthink it.