Beyond Your Number
You’re not just a type — you’re a whole story. Beyond Your Number is a conversational Enneagram podcast where Damon & Kelly explore real-life growth through personality. From relationships to team dynamics, we help you go deeper than the label. New episodes every Wednesday. Formerly EnneagramU.
Episodes
142 episodes
Nature vs Nurture, Are You Born Your Type or Does It Develop?
Are you born with your Enneagram type, or is your personality shaped by family, environment, and early experiences? In this episode, Damon and Kelly dig into the nature vs nurture question through the lens of the Enneagram, childh...
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Season 4
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Episode 142
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34:32
Enneagram Growth Path, How Each Type Can Move Toward Health and Wholeness
We’ve talked motivation, fear, and sabotage, and now Damon and Kelly bring the series in for a hopeful landing with real growth steps for every Enneagram type.You’ll hear what growth looks like for Types 1 through 9, from letting go of p...
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Season 4
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Episode 141
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37:03
Enneagram Self-Sabotage, When Your Greatest Strength Becomes Your Biggest Problem
Every Enneagram type has a strength that helps them shine, until it gets overused and starts causing damage. In this episode, Damon and Kelly unpack how each type’s greatest gift can quietly turn into a defense mechanism, and how to spot that s...
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Season 4
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Episode 140
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34:08
Enneagram Core Fears, Type 1–9 (What Each Type Avoids and How It Drives Behavior)
Okay BYN friends, this one’s a little ominous, in a helpful way. Damon and Kelly walk through the core fear underneath each Enneagram type, and how fear becomes a “silent motivator” that can hijack your tone, your choices, and your relat...
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Season 4
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Episode 139
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25:32
Enneagram Motivation Explained, Core Drivers for Types 1–9 (Approval, Security, Control)
Motivation is the “why” underneath what we do, and it’s one of the easiest Enneagram concepts to misunderstand. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break down Enneagram motivation in a clear, practical way, starting with the ...
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Season 4
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Episode 138
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37:00
Enneagram + Lent, What to Give Up or Add for Each Type (1–9)
We start with lint (dryer fires and all), then realize we mean Lent, and we actually go there.If you’ve never practiced Lent, or you grew up doing it and still aren’t sure what to do with it, this episode makes it simple. K...
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Season 4
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Episode 137
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27:07
Subtype Layers: Type 9
We’re back after an unplanned missed week, and yes, we finally tell the rest of the Jamaica story, including flight chaos, reroutes, and the unwanted souvenir of Influenza A.Then we wrap up our Subtypes series with Enneagram Ty...
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Season 4
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Episode 136
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29:13
Subtype Layers: Type 8
This week’s episode isn’t fully evergreen, because it’s recorded right as Kelly is leading a VU service trip to Jamaica and a major winter storm is about to hit the Midwest. That real-time pressure makes it the perfect setup for Enneagram Type ...
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Season 4
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Episode 135
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32:10
Subtype Layers: Type 7
Enneagram Type 7 subtypes are all about how joy, possibility, and future-focused energy show up through different instincts, and the differences are bigger than most people expect. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break do...
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Season 4
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Episode 134
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22:45
Subtype Layers: Type 6
Enneagram Type 6 subtypes are all about safety and security, and they look very different depending on the instinct. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break down the self-preservation, social, and one-to-one Type 6, includi...
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Season 4
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Episode 133
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26:03
Subtype Layers: Type 5 and a New Season!
Season 4 is here, it is 2026, and we start exactly how you would expect: a little off the rails. Damon declares a “set the bar low” resolution, Kelly introduces the better idea (rhythms over resolutions), and together they officially “jump the ...
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Season 4
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Episode 132
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24:53
Subtype Layers: Types 3 and 4
We are officially off the rails. Kelly is campaigning hard for “baby AI” versions of us. After we recover, we get back to what actually matters: subtype layers. In this episode we break down Enneagram Types 3 and 4 through the self-preservation...
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Season 3
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Episode 131
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22:24
Cake & Subtypes: The 3 Layers of Enneagram 1s and 2s
In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly head into the Enneagram “bakery” and build out the full three-layer cake of subtypes for Types 1 and 2. Using the playful “Is It Cake?” metaphor, they show how each subtype can loo...
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Season 3
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Episode 130
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28:22
Enneagram Subtypes 401: Self-Preservation (Types 7, 8, 9)
Damon and Kelly wrap up the self preservation section of the subtype series with Types 7, 8, and 9. They break down core motives, how self preservation shows up day to day (gear, routines, safety, control), healthy vs unhealthy patterns, and si...
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Season 3
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Episode 129
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27:45
Gratitude Practice for Every Enneagram Type (1–9) (Classic Replay)
This classic Beyond Your Number replay walks through all nine Enneagram types. For each number, we name what we’re grateful for, then give one practical gratitude assignment to help you move from stuck to healthier patterns. Highlights...
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Season 3
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Episode 128
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23:30
Enneagram Subtypes 401: Self-Preservation (Types 4, 5, and 6 phobic vs. counterphobic)
Today we continue our Enneagram subtype series and unpack the Self-Preservation instinct for Types 4, 5, and 6. Kelly explains how SP Fours pursue uniqueness through carefully curated “special” things, why SP Fives conserve time, energy,...
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Season 3
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Episode 127
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23:46
Enneagram Subtypes 401: Self-Preservation (Types 1–3)
Kelly and Damon wade into the deep end of subtypes starting with the self-preservation (SP) instinct for Types 1, 2, and 3. You’ll learn how SP shapes motivation (not just behavior):SP One: striving for goodness...
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Season 3
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Episode 126
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26:36
Enneagram Subtypes 401: The 27 Instincts & Your Three-Layer Cake
Kelly and Damon kick off a brand-new series on Enneagram subtypes, the instinctual variants that turn 9 core types into 27 flavors. This is the deep end: self-preservation (sp), social (so), and one-to-one/sexual (sx), plus the “thr...
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Season 3
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Episode 125
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23:13
Lost in Translation: What Type 9 Hears When You Say “Be Assertive”
Kelly and Damon unpack how a Type 9 processes “Be assertive” and why it can feel like a threat to calm rather than an invitation to contribute. Together they map common misreads, offer gentler phrases that work, and give Nines a simple reframe ...
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Season 3
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Episode 124
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22:21
Lost in Translation: What a Type 8 hears when you say “Calm down.”
When you tell an Eight “calm down,” they often hear “you’re too much,” “you’re out of control,” or “I’m censoring you.” In this episode Kelly and Damon unpack why protectors (8s) lead with intensity, why that phrase lands as a threa...
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Season 3
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Episode 123
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25:06
Lost in Translation: What a Type 7 Hears When You Say “Be Serious.”
This week we unpack Enneagram Sevens, the joy-bringers who can feel shut down when they hear, “Can you just be serious?” Kelly explains how that lands as “You’re too much,” “Your joy isn’t welcome,” or “We can’t take you seriously,”.We’l...
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Season 3
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Episode 122
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23:35
Lost in Translation: What Type 6's hear when you say "Don’t worry about it".
Damon & Kelly break down how well-meant reassurances land for Enneagram Sixes (The Loyalists). When you say “Don’t worry” or “It’s fine,” a 6 often hears “You’re on your own.” We cover why that triggers alarm (not trust), what it communicat...
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Season 3
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Episode 121
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20:35
Lost in Translation: Type 5 “We Need to Talk”. Without the Ambush!”
Type Fives value space, clarity, and time to think, so “We need to talk” can sound like “prepare to be emotionally mugged.” In this Lost in Translation episode, Damon and Kelly break down what Fives often hear versus what we mean
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Season 3
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Episode 120
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21:56
Lost in Translation: What Type 4 Hears in Your Silence
In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly unpack how silence, quick responses, or even well-intentioned pauses can land painfully with a Type 4. For Fours, depth, authenticity, and connection are everything and when we don...
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Season 3
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Episode 119
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27:55
Lost in Translation: What Type 3's Actually Hear
Threes often hear praise like “you’ve got it all together” as “you’re a fraud.” In this episode, Damon and Kelly unpack how seemingly harmless comments can trigger imposter syndrome for Enneagram 3s, and what to say instead. Learn phrases that ...
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Season 3
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Episode 118
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27:27