Beyond Your Number
You’re not just a type — you’re a whole story. Beyond Your Number is a conversational Enneagram podcast where Damon & Kelly explore real-life growth through personality. From relationships to team dynamics, we help you go deeper than the label. New episodes every Wednesday. Formerly EnneagramU.
Episodes
135 episodes
Subtype Layers: Type 8
This week’s episode isn’t fully evergreen, because it’s recorded right as Kelly is leading a VU service trip to Jamaica and a major winter storm is about to hit the Midwest. That real-time pressure makes it the perfect setup for Enneagram Type ...
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32:10
Subtype Layers: Type 7
Enneagram Type 7 subtypes are all about how joy, possibility, and future-focused energy show up through different instincts, and the differences are bigger than most people expect. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break do...
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Season 4
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Episode 134
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22:45
Subtype Layers: Type 6
Enneagram Type 6 subtypes are all about safety and security, and they look very different depending on the instinct. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break down the self-preservation, social, and one-to-one Type 6, includi...
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Season 4
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Episode 133
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26:03
Subtype Layers: Type 5 and a New Season!
Season 4 is here, it is 2026, and we start exactly how you would expect: a little off the rails. Damon declares a “set the bar low” resolution, Kelly introduces the better idea (rhythms over resolutions), and together they officially “jump the ...
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Season 4
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Episode 132
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24:53
Subtype Layers: Types 3 and 4
We are officially off the rails. Kelly is campaigning hard for “baby AI” versions of us. After we recover, we get back to what actually matters: subtype layers. In this episode we break down Enneagram Types 3 and 4 through the self-preservation...
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Season 3
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Episode 131
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22:24
Cake & Subtypes: The 3 Layers of Enneagram 1s and 2s
In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly head into the Enneagram “bakery” and build out the full three-layer cake of subtypes for Types 1 and 2. Using the playful “Is It Cake?” metaphor, they show how each subtype can loo...
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Season 3
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Episode 130
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28:22
Enneagram Subtypes 401: Self-Preservation (Types 7, 8, 9)
Damon and Kelly wrap up the self preservation section of the subtype series with Types 7, 8, and 9. They break down core motives, how self preservation shows up day to day (gear, routines, safety, control), healthy vs unhealthy patterns, and si...
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Season 3
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Episode 129
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27:45
Gratitude Practice for Every Enneagram Type (1–9) (Classic Replay)
This classic Beyond Your Number replay walks through all nine Enneagram types. For each number, we name what we’re grateful for, then give one practical gratitude assignment to help you move from stuck to healthier patterns. Highlights...
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Season 3
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Episode 128
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23:30
Enneagram Subtypes 401: Self-Preservation (Types 4, 5, and 6 phobic vs. counterphobic)
Today we continue our Enneagram subtype series and unpack the Self-Preservation instinct for Types 4, 5, and 6. Kelly explains how SP Fours pursue uniqueness through carefully curated “special” things, why SP Fives conserve time, energy,...
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Season 3
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Episode 127
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23:46
Enneagram Subtypes 401: Self-Preservation (Types 1–3)
Kelly and Damon wade into the deep end of subtypes starting with the self-preservation (SP) instinct for Types 1, 2, and 3. You’ll learn how SP shapes motivation (not just behavior):SP One: striving for goodness...
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Season 3
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Episode 126
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26:36
Enneagram Subtypes 401: The 27 Instincts & Your Three-Layer Cake
Kelly and Damon kick off a brand-new series on Enneagram subtypes, the instinctual variants that turn 9 core types into 27 flavors. This is the deep end: self-preservation (sp), social (so), and one-to-one/sexual (sx), plus the “thr...
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Season 3
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Episode 125
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23:13
Lost in Translation: What Type 9 Hears When You Say “Be Assertive”
Kelly and Damon unpack how a Type 9 processes “Be assertive” and why it can feel like a threat to calm rather than an invitation to contribute. Together they map common misreads, offer gentler phrases that work, and give Nines a simple reframe ...
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Season 3
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Episode 124
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22:21
Lost in Translation: What a Type 8 hears when you say “Calm down.”
When you tell an Eight “calm down,” they often hear “you’re too much,” “you’re out of control,” or “I’m censoring you.” In this episode Kelly and Damon unpack why protectors (8s) lead with intensity, why that phrase lands as a threa...
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Season 3
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Episode 123
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25:06
Lost in Translation: What a Type 7 Hears When You Say “Be Serious.”
This week we unpack Enneagram Sevens, the joy-bringers who can feel shut down when they hear, “Can you just be serious?” Kelly explains how that lands as “You’re too much,” “Your joy isn’t welcome,” or “We can’t take you seriously,”.We’l...
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Season 3
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Episode 122
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23:35
Lost in Translation: What Type 6's hear when you say "Don’t worry about it".
Damon & Kelly break down how well-meant reassurances land for Enneagram Sixes (The Loyalists). When you say “Don’t worry” or “It’s fine,” a 6 often hears “You’re on your own.” We cover why that triggers alarm (not trust), what it communicat...
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Season 3
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Episode 121
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20:35
Lost in Translation: Type 5 “We Need to Talk”. Without the Ambush!”
Type Fives value space, clarity, and time to think, so “We need to talk” can sound like “prepare to be emotionally mugged.” In this Lost in Translation episode, Damon and Kelly break down what Fives often hear versus what we mean
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Season 3
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Episode 120
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21:56
Lost in Translation: What Type 4 Hears in Your Silence
In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly unpack how silence, quick responses, or even well-intentioned pauses can land painfully with a Type 4. For Fours, depth, authenticity, and connection are everything and when we don...
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Season 3
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Episode 119
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27:55
Lost in Translation: What Type 3's Actually Hear
Threes often hear praise like “you’ve got it all together” as “you’re a fraud.” In this episode, Damon and Kelly unpack how seemingly harmless comments can trigger imposter syndrome for Enneagram 3s, and what to say instead. Learn phrases that ...
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Season 3
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Episode 118
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27:27
Lost in Translation: How to Say “No”, without wounding a Type 2
We’re back from break and digging into Type 2 (The Helper) in our Lost in Translation series. What you mean as a simple boundary,“Thanks, I’m good”,can land as rejection to a Two. Damon and Kelly unpack common mi...
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Season 3
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Episode 117
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21:16
Classic Replay: Understanding the Enneagram Triads (Gut, Heart, Head)
We’re dipping back into the archive with a foundation episode on the Triads—Gut (8-9-1), Heart (2-3-4), and Head (5-6-7). Damon and Kelly break down what each triad prioritizes, the core emotion it wrestles with (anger, shame, fear)...
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Season 3
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Episode 116
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22:53
Classic Replay: Unlocking the Harmony Triads
Today we’re revisiting a deep-dive conversation from our Enneagram U days, all about the Harmony Triads.Damon and Kelly unpack this advanced Enneagram teaching, showing how each triad (3-6-9, 2-5-8, and 1-4-7) holds a uni...
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Season 3
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Episode 115
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23:11
Classic Replay: What Really Motivates Each Enneagram Type
While we take a short break from our Lost in Translation series, we’re re-releasing one of our most loved episodes: Motivations.In this conversation, Damon and Kelly lay the foundation for understanding the Enneagram by e...
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Season 3
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Episode 114
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21:24
Lost in Translation: How to Speak So a Type 1 Truly Hears You
We’re kicking off our new Lost in Translation series, all about how what you say isn’t always what the other person hears. This week, we focus on Enneagram Type 1: what they hear, why it happens, and how to sp...
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Season 3
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Episode 113
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24:43
Speaking vs. Listening: The Roles That Make or Break Conflict Conversations
Ever tried to resolve a conflict only to end up in a verbal boxing match? This week, Damon and Kelly wrap up their 4-part conflict series by exploring the critical roles of speaker and listener, and why most of us play both badly.<...
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Season 3
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Episode 112
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35:38
The Self-Regulation Path: How to Calm Down Before Conflict Blows Up
This episode is the third in our conflict mini-series, if you missed the last two, definitely go back and catch them! Two weeks ago, we walked through six steps for healthy conflict. Last week, we hit the self-sabotage pitfalls that derail it. ...
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Season 3
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Episode 111
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25:16