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031. Wellness Whispers: Tuning Into Your Body's True Progress

Ben & Lindsay Hack Season 1 Episode 31

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Are you tired of the scale dictating your success? 

Join Ben and Lindsay as we shatter the mirror of misconceptions and reveal the true markers of your wellness journey. This isn't just another fitness chat—it's a paradigm shift waiting to happen.

We're peeling back the layers of progress, exposing the hidden gems of transformation you may have overlooked. From the whisper of looser waistbands to the roar of newfound energy, we're tuning into the body's secret language of success.

Get ready to redefine what 'achievement' really means. We're not just talking pounds and inches—we're diving into the confidence boost of rocking your favorite outfit and the thrill of smashing your latest fitness goal.

This episode is your golden ticket to a revolutionary perspective on wellness. Whether you're a seasoned health nut or starting out, prepare for some serious 'aha' moments that'll supercharge your motivation.

🎙️ Tune in now and unlock the secrets to celebrating your journey in ways you never imagined. Your wellness revolution starts here - are you ready to join the uprising? 

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Speaker 1:

episode 31 cut the noise. Wellness simplified welcome. Welcome, I am lindsey hack do we have to introduce ourselves?

Speaker 2:

yes, every time. What if somebody's just jumping on and they've never met us before? First of all, you wouldn't know that ben is a bit of a pain in the ass, but here he is I am ben hack.

Speaker 1:

You have to remember, not everybody follows along every step of the way somebody.

Speaker 2:

First of all, you wouldn't know that Ben is a bit of a pain in the ass, but here he is. I am Ben Hack. You have to remember. Not everybody follows along every step of the way. Somebody jumps on because somebody sent them a message and said you will love this podcast.

Speaker 1:

By the way.

Speaker 2:

Do that because we love you for that.

Speaker 1:

Totally, totally Do we need to let them?

Speaker 2:

know we're married then, if you haven't already figured it out, if you are new here, ben and I are married in life and we also are business partners in our company hack to fit coaching big mistakes and, as you can tell, we are not very serious around this joint because, well, we love this and it's our passion and what's the same?

Speaker 1:

life's too short. No one's getting out alive that is true.

Speaker 2:

That is true. But we also really believe, and we have a 16 and a 14 year old daughter a daughters, if you don't know and we just we don't ever want to grow up, we don't want to be old and grumpy, and so we have as much fun as humanly possible embarrassing our daughters as often as we can, and just kidding, we do that sometimes.

Speaker 1:

I think that's the secret. Right yeah, Staying young, staying young.

Speaker 2:

Age is just a number, it is. Staying young is the key.

Speaker 1:

You know it's interesting. You know I've said this and this isn't necessarily related to what we're going to speak about today.

Speaker 2:

But here we go. We're just shooting from the hip. Is that a limb you're on? This is good.

Speaker 1:

Shooting from the hip is correct, shooting from the pocket would be. So the secret to success, I think, is you've got to try and stay young, right like life is serious.

Speaker 2:

It can get really serious, we can get stressed and there's lots of responsibilities, but but I think having fun smiling, having a laugh, like these are all super important things in terms of health as well, actually absolutely, and that's not what our podcast is about today however, no, no no, I'm bringing it back to this because I believe this to be very true as well, because I think, ultimately, we can take ourselves very seriously sometimes and you know, we can be stressed about all the things and anxious about all the things and I'm never going to take away from anybody's stress or anxiety but I also believe that we should laugh at ourselves and make fun of ourselves. And it's funny. We often, you know, as you can imagine which I'm sure you can if you've listened to any of these, or even this last first minute of this podcast, ben and I you know we, we dig and we make fun and we do all those things and and that's just who we are and how we've always been.

Speaker 1:

I read a story recently actually, that said that's the secret to a successful marriage Is digs and plays and have fun. If you can playfully make fun of each other and not take each other too seriously or take yourself too seriously in that relationship, and you can have fun at each other's expense playful, kind, not mean, but playful and kind, pulling each other's legs, it helps with that relationship and I read that article.

Speaker 1:

I felt like yeah, you shared it with me, I remember we say that all the time, you know it's just what we do, lindsay will be mean to me, because that happens far more than the other way around.

Speaker 2:

Oh please and I'm like, do you have?

Speaker 1:

to be like that and she looks at me and she says it's just what we do.

Speaker 2:

It's just what we do how about?

Speaker 1:

I don't want that though.

Speaker 2:

Too bad, bad, too bad. And well, 23 years this coming April and we have been married and our business now has been booming for the last six and a half years, so I feel like it's a good thing. It's a good thing, do you? Yes? But anyways, on to our subject, because I can just tell the way that he was just holding himself that he was just about to go somewhere else with that conversation and we're not going there today. So well, let's talk about, are you?

Speaker 1:

what are we talking?

Speaker 2:

I am in control today. Yes, love this part now. So we are talking uh, very, very important, because this comes up all the time with our clients, with people we speak to, and it is about understanding how to measure your success, and so let's talk about what that means.

Speaker 1:

Stop you. I just stop you for a moment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Let's make it clear we're not talking about the thing, are we?

Speaker 2:

What thing is that?

Speaker 1:

Or you know the thing that when you say measure our success, that everyone goes to straight away.

Speaker 2:

Well, we are going to talk about that, but we're actually going to talk about why that thing, which I if you know me or have known me I have been in this industry for 20 plus years and I'm not even kidding you If I said the very first job I ever had was in a fitness gym very, very big box gym and I had a client bring this thing into me and I hid it at my house for the entire duration of our, of our sessions together, because it can have such a negative effect. So, ben, what is this thing that we were talking about? I don't know. I wonder if anyone can guess you know it's.

Speaker 1:

I'll describe it a little bit more. It's the thing that defines everything about your self-worth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's the things that can change your mood in a moment's time. One number.

Speaker 1:

This thing produces a number that basically defines your sense of self-worth.

Speaker 2:

I hate it so much.

Speaker 1:

Do I have any ideas?

Speaker 2:

I hate it so much, and if you've ever heard me say beep, beep the scale, you know that this is why we're so passionate about this topic. So we want to talk about how the, the definition of success, does not come from the scale. Now, hold on and Ben's going to be like wait, wait wait a minute.

Speaker 1:

I'm desperate to speak.

Speaker 2:

It's not that it doesn't only mean that you have to not use the scale, but Ben's going to explain a little bit about why we need the scale in our lives. But we don't want to have such a massive, you know crutch to it. I guess is the best way.

Speaker 1:

I want to respond to that. Yeah of you know, crutch to it, I guess, is the best way I want to respond to that. Yeah, I'm scared I might get it wrong. No, well, let's hear it All. Right. Well, you can direct me if I do.

Speaker 2:

I'm in charge, so it's fine.

Speaker 1:

And maybe I am. But you know, when you think about your health journey, if you think about your fitness journey, if you think about well being and what you're actually trying to accomplish right, we measure it in a few different ways and I'm going to keep it super simple because we don't really need to get into the detail. But if you think about progression in health, one is physical body. So you could basically say how do I look? Am I getting smaller? Is my body changing? Am I seeing definition? Am I seeing shape? Am I seeing different aesthetic aspects? Okay, that's one. Number two is you rock up to the doctors for your annual, your blood test and all of those things.

Speaker 1:

Your markers are changed, exactly your markers and you see progression and improvement. That's another area that we look at, and then the third aspect is simply from a perspective of mental health definitely. I always think of physical health, how we look. Internal health, how our body's operating. And mental health, how we feel, how we think.

Speaker 2:

so we're going to take those and we're going to just break them down a little bit further and we're going to kind of explain which ones we think are the most important, which ones we know people are doing on a regular basis, and then areas that we really feel like people can lean into a little bit more, right.

Speaker 1:

And I think as well I mean obviously like all the things in your journey like you've got to start to prioritize the things that are important. I think that's that's key. So you know, there's definitely a ton of different markers and things you can look at. Right, you might look at three or four things. I might look at three or four things. They could be different and some of it's just personal preference. It could be tied to specifically your goals.

Speaker 1:

You know I don't want to jump ahead but if my goal is to get stronger, then maybe I'm going to be tracking lifting heavier weights and what exercises I do for a lot of people that might not be relevant.

Speaker 2:

That's not it, so we're gonna. We're gonna go over. I think there's 16 of them and again, the idea is, as ben just said, there might be some that absolutely have zero bearing on what you're looking at right now, and that's okay and is it fair to say?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I think it is fair to say, but basically what we're trying to say is, when we track our progress in our fitness and health, we're basically saying there's a hell of a lot more to this journey. There's a hell of a lot more to this journey. There's a hell of a lot more to your journey. There's a hell of a lot more to your improvement and progression than your weight.

Speaker 2:

Than the damn scale.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm just going to say this before we get into it, I often say to people and I hope this comes out right so you can tell me if it makes sense. Okay, I often say to people, if they looked the way that they wanted to look and if their body was shaped the way that they wanted to shape it and if they had all of the energy and all of the stamina.

Speaker 2:

They felt great and they felt great.

Speaker 1:

They slept great, would they care about their weight?

Speaker 2:

No, and we know the answer is no. The answer is no weight.

Speaker 1:

No, and we know the answer is no. The answer is no. If you looked and fitted into those clothes and all of those things were exactly how you wanted them, then you wouldn't care about your weight. You genuinely wouldn't care about your weight.

Speaker 2:

No, and I think that's a big piece of it. And so this is why we want to look at these other markers, because success does not just reside with the scale, and people often say, oh, I've lost three pounds this week, or I gained five pounds this week, or whatever, and that instantly says that they were successful or not successful. Is there a part of that to be truth Absolutely, in the sense that what you did this week may have worked, what you didn't do this week didn't work? You know, metrics are good, they're important. However, they aren't the only thing.

Speaker 1:

I also want to add to it as well, right? So if you think of fitness technology and wearables, if you think of Fitbits and garments and Apple Watches and all of the different variables, and then you think of skills in your bathroom and how technologically advanced they've got, they give you all of these different measurements.

Speaker 2:

The actual percentage of error on those things is fairly significant, fairly significant, especially if you are sitting on your scale or standing on your scale in your bathroom and then you go to the doctor and you're using a different scale or you go to the. I mean, I've seen people literally pull the scales off of like the home sense door, like walls, and stand on them and see and they're like, oh my gosh, I've gained weight. It you have to use the same metrics. You can't use different scales.

Speaker 1:

But even in the sense of like, not just simple weight right. These things now push out, like your BMI, for example.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, body fat, composition Body fat.

Speaker 2:

They put you know, muscle percentage, fat percentage I mean fat percentage is hilarious when you see them on these machines because it's so inaccurate when you see them on these machines because it's so inaccurate and I think that's the key is like we're also putting a lot of onus or people put a lot of onus on something that isn't actually a hundred percent accurate as well, and one thing to say to that is that if you are using the same scale or the same app or the same whatever you know, you can use that as a gauge for sure.

Speaker 2:

But the problem that we consistently the incorrect number, but if you're trending down, you're trending down, you're trending down, we're good. Trending up, it's good as well, depending on your goal, right, so okay, so let's talk about this. So the very first one is body measurements, and you'll hear ben and I both talk about this with our clients, with anybody who asks, because, you know, measurements are one of those things that can change, no matter what the scale says, right, right. So if you want to change the way that your body looks, measurements are a really good way.

Speaker 1:

As you, if you've been following along, I piloted one of our programs and that program ended up in many results. But one of the results was weight loss for me personally, which I mean we didn't really expect. But it is what it is. It looks good, it's helping with the goals that I have around running, etc. But the interesting thing tying to that which we're going to jump into is my clothes hang off me now yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

So this, this is, this is one of those things, right, where there's multiple parts to measurements, okay. Okay, one of them is taking a tape measure and literally measuring each part, you know, and there's that. There's, of course, there's apps that kind of do that for you. And then there is what Ben just said clothing, which I think is such a big piece. It's the easiest one, it really is.

Speaker 1:

You just pull something on, you're like this feels, this actually feels a little bit more comfortable. She feels a little bit more comfortable. I was chatting to Gemma and we were just talking about, you know, there's different types of clothing, that's, and there's those clothes that you try on and they just don't feel good at all. There's those clothes that you try on that feel great and you feel comfortable in. And then there's those clothes that you love but they just they take work.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 2:

When you put a clothing on and you feel the change and it's starting to fit better and it's just more comfortable you, every single person, has a pair of those jeans or that dress or something that they have in their closet for the days where they put it on and they're just like, yes, and clothing is a really simple, they just feel so good.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he's laughing at me, guys, but that's okay. So the the clothing and measurements are are really, really important, because when you are on even if it is a weight loss journey or a health journey, whichever way you're going, it will make a difference in how you look. Now, remember, the reason we say this and Ben had pointed out earlier is this is the physical side of things. Right, you, you might have pants that are hanging off you, you finally fit into those jeans that you've been wanting to for a while. You know, I have a client who's desperate to get into a dress she wore, you know, before her wedding, and this is like her goal, and so having those things are really important because you're able to measure that for success I think it's interesting as well.

Speaker 1:

In actual fact, you know, we should probably give ourselves a bit of a slap on the hand here, because I think there's actually a natural sequence to these things, and sometimes the physical aspects aren't the first to happen.

Speaker 2:

They aren't the first to happen, and that's a really good point, and so we're going to move on, because there's lots here that I want to cover. So, of course, we talked about measurements. Body composition is a big one, and again it is a physical. So you're right, maybe we're in the wrong order here, but having an understanding of your fat versus muscle is really important.

Speaker 1:

Right, and I think that goes back to the fact that if you're getting that from a scale, there's going to be a margin of error. So it's not a number I would take to the bank, to be honest with you. But if I did get it done in, an environment whereby there was accuracy, then I'd take more. You know, I'd put more weight into that response. Yeah definitely, Like we've said, if you're using the same skill and it's giving you a percentage then if you're seeing that percentage drop, then that's a positive indicator, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah? And I'll tell you, I use an app called Me360. So me, and then the number three written and then 60 written, and it is actually a really great app to visually see some changes. It's a body mapping, it is it's a 3d body mapping. It takes really cool photos of you. Um, you can do, yeah, it's kind of confronting. It is confronting, but it gives you measurements, it gives you body composition and, again, if you're using it regularly, it gives you a really clear idea. And there's nothing better than visual, which is, again, photos are always a good one on there too, but this one is more like a 3D mapping of your body, so you don't see yourself exactly. It's kind of weird, but kind of cool at the same time.

Speaker 1:

What's really cool about it actually is that it gives a side by side or you can select.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can compare them and I think that's for me.

Speaker 1:

That's where the power is. If you're looking at an image of you, that's a 3D map of your body. So imagine you look like a mannequin. Basically, that's pretty much how you look. You know, if you put your side by side from two months ago or three months ago to today, you can see the progression right, so you might actually not even be able to see it clearly day to day, but once you put it next to your old self, it's like having two of you one from three months ago and one from today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and photos are definitely on this list, and one of the things that I say about photos is sometimes it can be challenging. You've got light issues, you've got clothes issues. There's so many different ways that you can take a photo and do a side by side and not quite see the difference. But when they're doing a 3D map of you, there's very specific instructions on where to do it and how to stand. Then it's a really great way of seeing it. But again, that's a physical and, to be honest, as Ben said, that might not be something that comes right away. The weight loss may not come right away, the measurements might not come right away, but the more things that do come right away are the things that we're noticing on a regular basis.

Speaker 1:

One of them and this is probably a big one is energy. Yeah, I mean, that's a huge one, right. You feel like you have more energy. You feel like you have greater stamina. Right, you feel like you don't kind of blow up earlier in the day, you're able to keep going.

Speaker 2:

Energy levels are fairly consistent, right, and I had a client ask me a few weeks ago about how do you, how do you measure energy, and I think the best way to do it is to look at your energy levels at the days, at the times of day. So, for instance, a lot of people have that like 3pm slump. Okay, so we're not going to need all the reasons, but let's just say you have a 3pm slump. Your energy level measurement could be every day at 3pm. You give yourself a 1 to 10 scale, 10 being your energy levels off the charts. You're like the energizer bunny. 1 being I need to crawl under my covers and never come out.

Speaker 1:

I think the thing about energy is it's all relative to you. So it kind of goes back to what we've spoken about in previous episodes. It really doesn't matter what you do. No it matters what you do, but not what anybody else does.

Speaker 2:

So that's why a scale is really good, because today you could say, okay, I'm a two out of 10. And then in a month's time you could say, at that 3 pm mark, you're a four or five and eight out of 10. And that's progression, that's, that's improvement, right? So I think that's important. So clothing fit is off the on here too. Another one that Ben mentioned for himself, which is strength and stamina. You know we've talked about the importance of strength training, talked about the importance of strength training, especially for women. I posted recently about the idea of women don't want to get quote unquote, bulky, and we've talked about that before. But here's the thing with strength and stamina If you're lifting heavier weights or you're progressing through weight training, that is a big, big indicator that you are doing what you need to do to get stronger and stronger and stamina are great.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, I mean a hundred percent. That's the progression is very quick. What you're looking at is the difference between something that's tangible and quantifiable and something that's not right. So quantifiable is anything that gives us a number. It could be a scale.

Speaker 2:

I can put it into a graph.

Speaker 1:

Whereas some of them aren't quantifiable Like so, for example, energy. You've got to kind of really come up with your own scale you know, it could be whatever you want a lot of the apps that I use for running will have as simple as smiley face yeah, flat smile. Yeah, how did you feel?

Speaker 2:

yeah, and then if you wanted to go back and you were an analyst of data which I am definitely not, but I know ben is if you wanted to go back and look, you would look and see you. Hopefully your energy levels, example, would have a lot of smiley faces.

Speaker 1:

Well exactly, it could be as simple as that. Right, it could be traffic lights green, red, orange, amber, whatever Yellow.

Speaker 2:

You call it yellow. Yes, of course, guys. Please tell us. Do you call it yellow, red, yellow, green, or do you call it Green?

Speaker 1:

amber, amber, it's orange. Effectively, it's not orange, it's yellow.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, we're moving on.

Speaker 1:

I don't feel like this is finished. Maybe here it's finished, but this is definitely not finished.

Speaker 2:

Please, please, tell us, do you call it amber or do you call it yellow? Moving on, but having a track system of some description, because here's the other thing. The next one that is going to be something that we're really, really talking a lot about is your mental health and your mood, right? So, going back to mental health and mood, it also. He just showed me something. It also says yellow, otherwise known as Amber.

Speaker 1:

So we're both right. This is the first time we've ever been both right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, All yellow, otherwise known as amber. So we're both right. We've never been both right. Yes, all right. Moving on mood mood and mental health, that was a really important part.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of like energy as well yes, but, but it is and and again, if you're going back to the green, yellow, red if that's what you choose or happy face, not so happy face, you know, not not a happy face. It's looking at like your stress, your clarity, right, these are things. And again, it is much harder to metrics this is that even the right term, by putting it into a measure, it data. But it does make a difference, because I feel like this is something that people see quite quickly, yeah, when they make a change, totally and even if it's just an uplift in your sense of um actually taking action towards your health.

Speaker 1:

So when you're not working on your health, you know you're not feeling great. When you start working on your health, you can be neutral, but as you get momentum you start to feel really positive about the progression you're making, and then if you do miss a workout or if you have something, that's when your mood changes.

Speaker 1:

So it's an interesting one and it's super important as well just to say that these aren't, like you know, as much as like we joke about, like a graph and all of these and tracking and stuff like that. I mean the tracking can be simply, I check in with myself at a certain time of day, how am I feeling, I'm feeling good, and then you basically can turn around and say, on the whole, I've felt quite, quite energetic at three o'clock in the afternoon. This isn't some task that becomes like another.

Speaker 2:

My fitness pal no, whatever it might be, I think the big thing is and the reason that we're going over these is yeah, is. Is that? The scale tends to be that milestone? The scale is oh, I get up in the morning, I go for my pee, I take all my clothes off and I step on the scale. That becomes part of a routine. What we're saying is that we're wanting to try to take that routine and break it so that you're doing some of these other things instead.

Speaker 1:

We define our self-worth by other things we try to.

Speaker 2:

We try to, all right. So I'm going to go through these next ones, because we've talked a lot about them on this podcast. Sleep quality is a big one. We have a whole episode on sleep that you can take a listen to. Consistency in our healthy habits Again, there are at least three or four podcasts you can go back on that, but these are things that you can do. I know Ben posted a post on his Facebook or Instagram that talked about what consistency looks like and it's a really, really good visual. Right? It's not checkmark, checkmark, checkmark for 30 days straight. It's checkmark, checkmark. Oh, I didn't make it Checkmark. So if we go follow a monthly metrics measurement, then we're going to look for more times check marks than Xs.

Speaker 1:

And that's the beauty of it. You think about that. I mean just taking it from that particular graph. If you imagine that there's 30 circles and six of those are red and the remaining 24 are green, yeah, win, massive win, that's an 80% showing up rate and a 20% missed or skipped or whatever, to make massive I mean massive progress at 80%. That is that is exactly what you need to be, that's exactly it, that's exactly it.

Speaker 2:

And so again, for those people who love to do graphs and scales and all of that stuff, I'm a visual person. I am. I'm not necessarily a graphing, you know, focusing on that, but that visual where you take the reds versus the greens in that scale, when you have more greens, it feels great and that is how you can track your consistency. Flexibility and mobility are another one. Again, I think we could probably do an entire podcast on that.

Speaker 1:

You know I like flexibility and mobility in the sense that that's a focus, but it's not necessarily a focus. Like you know, it's something that's that's a focus, but it's not necessarily a focus. Like you know, it's something that's simply very, very, very important. But you know, unless you're already moving that body and super healthy and working out and stuff, you know that's that's maybe not the first priority you look at.

Speaker 2:

Well, and just on a side note to that, which is not really, this is what we're. What when we talk about um flexibility, for example, I had a client once come to me and say I really want to learn how to do the splits and I'm like is that your sure? No, because I cannot do it. But if that's your focus, then we can absolutely work on it, but if it's not your focus and you want that as just part and parcel of the course, then it isn't going to be something that you're focusing on. I have another client who's like I really want to learn. You know the strength, and get, get myself into a wall, sit for five minutes. I'm like, okay, is that the focus? Yes, they really do Um, because I saw somebody do it and I anyways, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

But the reality is the reality is that if that's your focus, we absolutely can make it happen. But most people that's not their only focus. You know, it's kind of like I want to be able to do pushups on my toes. I want to be able to do these things. It's part of the, of the practice, but not the focus.

Speaker 1:

All about your goals.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Everyone's got unique goals, different goals. There might be some similar goals, but I think you know some things like that can be worked on, but for the majority of people. You know you're not going to measure how long you can sit against a challenge fun, cool.

Speaker 2:

So this one, ben has has a story that I want you to tell, that I want you to tell. But this one's a really big one. It's our health markers, right? So this is this is where we turn around and we get blood work done, or we have our heart rate checked, or we have our blood pressure checked when we go to the doctor and you know that is going to be a massive measure in our success. Whether it's, you know within the first month of doing it, whether it's in the first year, whether it's beyond.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's actually part of your fitness journey.

Speaker 2:

Totally.

Speaker 1:

And I think sometimes it's something that we maybe don't associate with our fitness journey as a baseline. So, for example, if I'm starting my fitness journey today, getting my blood work done and getting all of those baselines, those key markers down today is good practice, because then in six months time or 12 months time, as I've been working on my fitness and my health, I can get those blood markers checked again, a blood test, and now I've got a comparison.

Speaker 1:

Right, right you need to get a few in there before you can really start to. You know, look at the trends. But if you are, you know, lowering your cholesterol, your blood pressure is improving the different markers within the blood work that measure certain things that you know, whether it's uric acid or whatever it might be that you're most concerned with, then that's a beautiful mark. I had a client this week actually, that just had her blood work done.

Speaker 2:

And everything's down.

Speaker 1:

Everything's down. And it's such a great feeling and you can see you know to go into the doctor's office and basically have your blood test, where maybe in the past you would be a little bit apprehensive. You know to come out and effectively had your doctor turn around you and say you did good, yeah, like that's. That's another marker. Now, that's a longer term marker, right?

Speaker 1:

you're not jumping on and getting your blood work done every every week, yeah, but it's a really good marker to take into consideration. So if you've got old blood tests that you got electronically submitted I mean, if you're in the us you can jump in your portal and look at them. Right. Right, maybe go back look at them. If you've been working on your fitness for the last couple of years, you might be surprised at how things have changed and never realized that that is something you can look at.

Speaker 2:

Right, which I think is amazing Because, again, for those of you who like the very specific graph style markers, this is one of them that's probably have to pull them out. I don't know how they're presented.

Speaker 1:

But you know, if you look at a specific marker, you'll be able to say where was it in 2022?, when is it in 2023?, when is it in 2024?

Speaker 2:

Totally so. Another one is improved digestion, and we're not going to get into this one too much because again, another full podcast we could talk about this, but I do have a client that that was her only goal, which was having real big struggles with food, and we were looking at how to improve her digestion and over a 12 week period we were able to see massive changes. So of course that's a great marker. It had nothing to do with her weight, it had nothing to do with the scale or the measurements. It was just about making sure that she, you know, had good bowel movement. It was important.

Speaker 1:

Right and maybe worked on her stress yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, definitely. Confidence and self-esteem, I think, is a big one too, but again, it's harder to measure. But if you find yourself in a place where you are able to take your shirt off as Ben is just laughing because that's his marker I tell you, when he feels good he can go running without a shirt on. When he doesn't feel good, he keeps his shirt on, even sometimes when it's a bazillion degrees here in Mexico. You know, for me, obviously, I'm not taking my shirt off while I run, but I'm definitely wearing certain clothes that I might not be comfortable getting out. So that is something that ties back to our clothing that I think we can work with.

Speaker 1:

Right, and I think it. You know it even comes to you know again, working with clients that have struggled with their weight. You know they walk into a room and the assumption automatically is everybody's looking at me Right, so to be able to walk into those rooms and not have that feeling, or they're.

Speaker 2:

They're looking at me for a different reason, like, oh yeah, look at them looking at me because I feel great or I look great, it's. It's a very different, different feeling confidence.

Speaker 1:

You know, I've even even going to certain restaurants where there's booth seating or um, you know an airplane.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to sit in that seat because I can't.

Speaker 1:

I can't get in comfortably or I can't get out comfortably and, like Lindsay says, you know the boost that comes with not having to ask for the extender or not feeling like you're interfering with the person in the seat next to you. I mean these are all massive confidence boosters, massive milestones.

Speaker 2:

Totally, totally All right. These last two really, again, depending on where you're at one is performance goals and, of course, this is something that you know Ben is very big on when it comes to his own journey, because he wants to make sure he can run faster and and keep his body strong, and you know, the less weight he has on his body and the more muscle he has on his body, the faster runner he's going to be. So, again, depending on your goals, that's a big one, but reducing pain and discomfort is definitely something, if that's your goal, that you can focus on and really get amazing results and be able to measure that. I can now walk down the stairs without pain in my knees, I can get off the toilet without having to struggle right, having those as a massive, massive indicator that you are getting stronger and better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think that you know we just talked about this a little bit as a massive, massive indicator that you are getting stronger and better. Yeah, and I think that you know we just talked about this a little bit and I think it's relevant is that you know how many times do we go to the doctors and the doctor says, well, you have problems with your knees, maybe if you lost some weight it would be easier, right, and obviously that process as well, when we look at it from that perspective, is pain can be reduced by improved fitness. Right perspective is pain can be reduced by improved fitness.

Speaker 1:

Right pain can be improved by improved improved by flexibility or mobility or weight loss, or just simply strengthening the legs or strengthening the core for your lower back absolutely, absolutely so.

Speaker 2:

Again, the. The most important message, the takeaway which we always are saying we want you to listen to this and have a takeaway is that if you are only using the scale, we urge you to use something else, one at least.

Speaker 1:

One other thing I think we urge you to look at those things that we've talked about and actually try and figure out a couple. Don't you think a couple?

Speaker 2:

It's always good to have two, I definitely agree with a few, but I think sometimes, when people think, oh, I do the scale, I don't know. And the other thing with this is like measurements, you know the My360 app, you know these type of things, it's not a daily thing, right, you're not going to see massive changes over a day, which is why I hate the scale when it comes to that, because there's so many things about the scale on a daily basis. But if you're doing measurements and photos and using My360 app every single month, you will see the changes time over time, over time. And remember, we're not about the quick fixes here, we're about the long-term success. That's where having these will be a big, big part of the success that you do.

Speaker 1:

And we're recommending 360, my 360 app, because it's a great tool.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's not affiliated or anything like that I love it. I use it for myself, I use it for all my clients. So if you want to give it a try, it's on android or apple, but this is not an affiliate thing and if you find one that you like, better use it. Yeah, and tell us. Yeah, please. I can't even remember where I first came across 360, but I came across it somewhere and suggested that you take a look at it.

Speaker 1:

We looked at it, we liked it. Yep, I think it's a very personal tool. For sure, I don't know how many people are sharing their My360 maps with each other and saying look at this, Definitely more of a private thing Because you're wearing your underwear.

Speaker 2:

You can't see that it is literally like a oh, there's nothing hiding. No, no, there's nothing hiding. It is definitely a personal thing, believe it's a really great app. So use it or not, use it or not. All right, guys. Well, another amazing episode. We hope that you can take something away from this. We can't wait to hear your feedback, especially about the lights, guys. Don't forget to give that back to us. Yellow or Amber, but also what you think about the, what the episode. Please share it. Give it to somebody who might only be obsessing over the scale and then getting really upset about certain things on a daily basis. It's not your worth. It's just a tool, and we have other tools that we just told you about that could help you along the way.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

All right, have yourself a fantastic week. Until next week we shall see you for another episode. See you soon. Bye.

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