Cut The Noise | Wellness Simplified
"Cut the Noise - Wellness Simplified" is a weekly podcast where fitness experts Ben and Lindsay Hack leverage their two decades of experience to empower women over 40 in building healthier lifestyles. Unlike typical health shows, this podcast cuts through industry hype, focusing on sustainable fitness, mindful eating habits, and positive mindset cultivation for holistic well-being. With their signature no-fads, no-shortcuts philosophy, Ben and Lindsay offer refreshingly real talk, actionable advice, and occasional hard truths – all served with a generous dose of humor. Tune in for straightforward, science-backed wellness guidance simplifying the path to genuine health and happiness.
Cut The Noise | Wellness Simplified
047. Health is Not a Destination, But a Direction
Health is Not a Destination, But a Direction
What if simple changes could transform your life?
In this episode of Cut the Noise, we unpack how to visualize success, embrace authenticity, and make health a fulfilling lifestyle—not just a fleeting goal.
We break down why health is ongoing, not a finish line.
With real-life stories and actionable tips, we tackle how to personalize your health journey—navigating restaurant dining, finding the best strategies for your lifestyle, or thriving through life's curveballs.
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Welcome to Cut the Noise, wellness Simplified. It is episode 47. I am Ben and, as always, I am here with my beautiful wife.
Lindsay:He's aiming for something. I'm back, this is, this is this is. I wasn't here last week and I missed you guys, so I'm back again which is great yeah which is great.
Ben:I'm excited yeah, what are we talking about today?
Lindsay:who knows actually before we even go there, I want to talk about why you weren't here last week and what you were actually planning and preparing for, and why you were uh, we couldn't get our schedules together well, I did a workshop, a master class, last week on Thursday night, so I was planning and organizing and getting things organized, but I had over a hundred people register for it, so I was trying to out my game a little bit, because there's a lot of people. And yeah, it was amazing. I did how to use AI images and AI vision boards, personalizing, bringing your visions to life. It was amazing, fabulous, had a ton of feedback positive and lots of questions and asking me to do some work for them because they don't want to do it themselves. And I love it, and I love it.
Ben:So you're really passionate about it. I'm very excited about it.
Lindsay:I mean the episode that we did on Visualize it. I think it was the one before I mean the episode that we did on Visualize it I think it was the one before Ben was like you need to slow down, you need to be less excited, and I'm not. I'm more excited, to be fair, because so many people were really excited about the images and how powerful they are. When you're looking at the vision board, the visualization of it all, yeah, it was just amazing.
Ben:It's very cool because one of the things that the vision board I mean we've talked about it before, but one of the cool parts about this is it can be applied to different aspects of life. Health, obviously, is one of those, but it could be relationships, it could be wealth, it could be, it could be a number of different things your business, it could be your career, depending on what you're looking for. And I think the cool part is we can set goals and sometimes we kind of lose sight of them.
Lindsay:Yeah, well, and I'll tell you, because I've been very much enjoying doing the AI images and playing with it, as I say, quote unquote, playing. I actually have quite a few vision boards now. I have a bucket list vision board, a travel vision board, a business vision board, a health and fitness vision board, so I think it's really sky's the limit when it comes to that.
Ben:Yeah, maybe you should share those with me.
Lindsay:Maybe I'd like that.
Ben:I'd like to know what my future holds.
Lindsay:You know a lot of them. Nothing's like. Oh my gosh, that's weird. I have one with me standing in an environment in Greece. Would you be like whoa? I never thought or never knew she wanted to go visit Greece? No, I never thought or never knew she wanted to go visit.
Ben:Greece. No, you'd be like, oh my gosh.
Lindsay:Yeah, of course she wants to go, exactly so I don't feel like there's much on that that you would be like oh, I don't know.
Ben:So that's why you abandoned me to do this thing by myself last week.
Lindsay:Yeah, and to be fair, you did really well. I listened to it.
Ben:Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, you was great and I think, the big thing you know. After Ben finished recording, he said that the only thing he missed was the banter right.
Lindsay:And I mean part of why we love doing this podcast is because we do have this banter kind of back and forth and, you know, anybody who knows us personally or online or from a coaching perspective knows this is who we are. You know, I was talking to somebody today about authenticity. Right, ai brings up these conversations about ethics and authenticity and I'm like, actually I don't think AI should bring any of that up. That's just human beings, right. As human beings, I am as authentic as you can get. What you see is what you get, or what you hear is what you get. Same with Ben, and I think that's why we really love doing the podcast.
Ben:I do and I think you know it's so important to be authentic, because we've always said that this is who we are. We don't try and be something that we're not.
Lindsay:We're not perfect.
Ben:And if you like us, awesome, and if you don't like us, even awesome too. Exactly.
Lindsay:And if you don't like us and you're listening to this one, I think you got some problems. Yeah, what is going on? Why?
Ben:are you listening to us if you don't like us? But the reality is, you know, I think it's. I think it's powerful when you find a voice that resonates.
Lindsay:Right, and we've had this conversation before on our podcast, where you know, of course, there are so many voices out there and you know, the reason we called this Cut the Noise is because there is so many voices and, honestly, if it's not us, that's cool, but find somebody, an expert, somebody who knows what they're talking about, and follow suit. Don't, you know? Not find anybody, but also know that you can't follow everybody.
Ben:Right, this is well, we'll get onto this episode at some point but what you just said there really reminded me of something.
Ben:Lindsay and I went for a walk today and we just talked and talked for like an hour and a half. It's something we do we walk and talk and just catch up on life and work and the kids and all of that stuff. And one of the things that we talked a little bit about today was this idea of there's usually two reasons why we fail to progress or there's two reasons why we can't move forward, and one of those is that we're overcomplicating it.
Ben:So, whatever it might be. We're trying to accomplish something, we typically make it more complex than it needs to be. And then the second is we actually don't know why we're not really connected as to why it's important to us. Like, if you're going to do something that's going to require change and it's going to require effort and focus and breaking old habits that don't support your goals, then you better be damn well clear on what you're trying to accomplish, and I think, from a health perspective, that kind of leads us on a little bit to what we're talking about today.
Lindsay:Oh, thank goodness, we're coming right back to what we were talking about, which we wanted to talk a lot because it's come up a lot.
Ben:I've spoken so many times to clients about this just this week, about the idea that health is not a destination but a direction.
Ben:The idea that you know we have an aspiration or a goal that we want to get to, but it doesn't stop there. We've got to find a way to love the journey. We've got to find a way to love how we eat on a day-to-day basis. We've got to find a way to love how we move on a day-to-day basis. We've got to find a way of doing it when we recover and sleep. We've got to find the joy in the doing, not just in the result. And I think so often, you know, we get this idea. We speak to clients and we speak to people that potentially are looking at working with us, and you can tell they're basically saying I'm prepared to do all of these things until I get to the result that I'm looking for and at that point I can kind of fall back into maybe some of my old habits, and I think the answer to that is you can, and that's why you lose 30 pounds and then put 30 pounds back on.
Lindsay:Yeah, and I think it's interesting, right. I say to my clients a lot of the time I say, when I get there, quote, unquote, air quotes get there. And the truth of the matter is what that there looks like is always changing, always moving. And the reality is, once you get there, whatever there is, whether it's 30 pounds, weight loss, training for a race, whatever there is you don't just stop you for a race, whatever there is, you don't just stop. You have to continue to do the things, to stay there, which you know for the most part, we want to continue along the same path. We don't want to lose and gain the same 30 pounds for the rest of our lives. We don't want to do those things. So we have to figure out how there becomes the destination, not sorry, the journey and not the destination.
Ben:Actually it's funny. You should just say that I think I've realized why I don't like the word journey, and you've heard us talk about this before.
Lindsay:If you've listened to these podcasts.
Ben:I just find it to be a cliche and it's just something about it that just doesn't sit well and I think you know why. What happens often with journeys?
Lindsay:They end.
Ben:They have a destination, and I think that the problem with that is what we're just saying. Is we're saying that this is an ongoing um journey?
Lindsay:no see, I don't even know what we should talk about we've had this conversation before where we don't necessarily love the word, but we're also not sure what the connection or the right hey, I'd love some suggestions.
Ben:I mean, we'd love some suggestions, not necessarily like just some ideas, but if you, if you think of what we're saying is what we're saying is you have to find a way to live healthily, you have to find a way to do all of the things that are important in that process of living a healthy life, and and it doesn't have an end. That's why it's important to to love it and enjoy it on a daily basis, because it's those small, consistent actions that we take daily, that kind of pay the rent Right I always talk about pay the rent Does it make sense when I say you have to pay the rent.
Lindsay:But again, you know what I know and I know you. Should I explain? Yeah, explain that a little bit, Okay.
Ben:So paying the rent is I always talk about when I go for a run or when I lift at the gym or whether I eat healthy food is paying the rent, and what it means is ultimately, you only ever renting health and fitness because you don't get there and then you don't get to keep it. You have to go and earn it every day, you have to go and earn it every week. So I call it paying the rent. Paying the rent is all right. I'm going to the gym to pay the rent on my health. I'm going to the gym, I'm going for a run to pay the rent on my cardiovascular.
Lindsay:In other words, I'm making that small deposit that keeps me healthy, yeah, and I love it because, let's be honest, I mean, unless you're very strange, which you know if you are cool but like, none of us are jumping up and down for joy for paying the rent, right, we have to. We have to be adults. I say this to our kids all the time Like, don't rush to become adults, it's kind of sucks to, you know, have to do all those things. So when we're talking about paying the rent, it's not that you're always jumping for joy to go to the workout or eat the food or to go for the run, but you need to do it to keep a roof over your head. So you got to pay the rent. And it's the same with your health. You got to do those things in order to be healthy and strong and whatever your goals are, whatever that there quote, unquote there is, otherwise you won't be able to get there.
Ben:Right. I think it's interesting and you're probably going to give me a kick for this, but I also think it's interesting that you know, if we got a mortgage right, we're going to pay that mortgage every month.
Lindsay:We just know, job.
Ben:You're going to go to the job every, every day but listen to this though if we're going to pay that mortgage, because if we don't, what happens? We lose our house okay so you might be paying the rent. Same principle, right? All right, I've got a car, it's broken.
Lindsay:I'm investing in that car. You gotta fix it.
Ben:No, no, forget about the maintenance of that car. I mean that's part of it, but I'm just saying we pay our monthly payment, otherwise it gets repossessed. Right? If you think about all of those things, they're all things we prioritize because we know that we'll lose something if we don't. And I think it's ironic sometimes that we don't put health in that. And the irony about health is you can't replace health once you lose it. You know you get your car taken back from you, it gets repossessed. You can always buy another car. I mean, it's difficult and there's challenges, et cetera. You lose your house the same deal. But we put so much onus on those things, those materialistic things, that at the end of the day, like it's just a car, it's just a house, like the health that you have, the health that you have, the health that you want to keep and maintain into your older years, you know you can't just go and buy that back.
Lindsay:So, we have to like you're going to laugh here but we have to nurture that, we have to nourish that.
Ben:Linz, I don't not like nurture, I despise the word nourish but what I'm saying is it's like you know, it's so important to understand that we need to be making these small deposits every day. And those small deposits are those small steps. They don't have to be big steps. They add up and we talk about this all the time, but I think, how many times here's a question for you how many times do you speak to clients or prospective clients where you can tell that they're saying to you I'm cool with doing what I need to get to where I need to get to, but you can tell from the way they're saying it. There's like a point where, once I've got there, I won't have to do it anymore.
Lindsay:Oh, yeah, it definitely. It definitely comes up. I have a client that one of our, our weekly mantras is this isn't for the short term, this isn't for the short term, right, and everything that we try to create is long-term right, life, life changing, life, sustainable. So it doesn't feel like you have to only do it for the short term and then you're, you're done and you can do whatever you want, which isn't, which isn't the case. So, if you kind of bring it back to what we were talking about with, you know, fitness, health being a direction, not the destination, it's, it's understanding that you have to enjoy that as much as you can. And we were talking earlier. You know our youngest Gemma. She loves road trips. It's like her favorite thing, um, you know, it's the snacks that we have and the games that we play and the goofiness that we have and and yeah, of course, depending on where we're going, the actual destination is important, but it's not the most important thing you asked that question to the kids this week.
Ben:What was that all?
Lindsay:about. Well, it was because a client and I were having that conversation and I had said you know to to my client about you know what she likes the most about certain things when it comes to traveling. She's a big travel person and one of the things she loves is the adventure that comes along with the travel. And her daughter and her husband are not the same. They do not like the kind of the what if the flight is late, what if this is happening, what's going on? And so everybody is different when it comes to things they enjoy or things they get stressed out about or what have you. But understanding that if it's the road trip that you enjoy, it's the adventures. And what I was actually saying to my client is I mean, Ben and I have done a ton, and I mean a ton of traveling in our lifetime and the things that we remember the most and talk about the most and laugh about and whatever the most is the ones that didn't go to plan when shit goes wrong.
Lindsay:Right when shit goes wrong. Those are the things we talk about. Like I was telling my client about how we got mugged by monkeys in India, I was telling her how we almost ran out of gas when we drove to Mexico. Like these are the things that we talk about regularly, not how perfect the perfect plan was. So you know, even when we talk about the road trip or the direction, or you know not the journey, whatever the not journey journey the not, journey journey, the not journey, journey.
Ben:You know the things that go on within that are the most powerful conversation came up this week, um, early earlier in the week, early in the morning, with, uh, with a client that I'm working with, and and I said to him, I just literally asked the question, like you know, how are things going? How are you finding things? Like, just checking in, give me a general update. And he turned around to me and he said which I just loved him, like oh, my god, he's, he's gonna do this like he is. He's already lost 30 pounds, uh, close to 30 pounds. Since september. He's losing about a pound, pound and a bit a week, something like that, which is perfect. It's sustainable, small little changes. But of all the things he could have said to me, like he could have turned around and he could have said I'm loving the fact that I've lost 30 pounds. Or I'm loving the fact that my significant other has said that they can start to see my biceps developing, loving the fact that my significant other has said that they can start to see my biceps developing.
Ben:He could have said those things. And he turned around to me and he said I'm just loving the fact that I'm actually enjoying this process. I'm enjoying the food that I'm starting to eat, I'm enjoying the fact that I'm prioritizing my health, and that makes me feel. It makes me feel really good. My energy levels are good and I'm just really keen to see what's next. In other words, like what's Ben going to introduce next that's going to help me get to that next level, kind of kind of thing.
Lindsay:And and I was just like, here's a guy that's falling in love with the process, right, and the thing is, you know, falling in love with the process is honestly the key, the key to success. Because, again, I've said this many times on this podcast I don't jump up and down and for joy when my alarm goes off in the morning. Um, I'm not like, oh my gosh, I get to go and do my workout today. It's the best thing ever. But the things that I do love is seeing results and knowing that I'm only putting in so much time into what I'm getting my results out of right, knowing that it's doable, manageable around my business. Our teenagers are like our life.
Ben:these are the things that are very, very enjoyable of the process if you are getting results doing something that you're not enjoying and you don't think you're going to be able to sustain it long term, then it's. I could almost guarantee you're going to lose those results at some point.
Lindsay:Yeah.
Ben:If you're seeing results and you're feeling confident that you can be consistent with that, you're getting joy out of the process. It's not overwhelming, but you're just doing that a little bit more and pushing yourself that little bit further, week after week. I can guarantee your chances of sustaining that are significantly higher. Right, if you hate the process, you won't continue to do it. If you love the process, you will, and I think it's really as simple as that. So you've got to find a way for you that you love.
Lindsay:Well, and I think too, you know, ben and I often talk about how we work with our clients, and one of the things that you know is really important is one start where you are, that's a huge thing, but the other thing is and Ben had just commented about his client this morning was like you know, what is he going to introduce next? Kind of almost like Christmas morning. It's like what's going to happen now. And I think the big thing to keep in mind too is when we introduce things it's not so hard that it's impossible to keep, and I know your client specifically the same one we were talking about, you know is a big eating out kind of guy.
Ben:Massive and he didn't want to give that up and he said that that's something I do, and it's something I enjoy doing and it's part of my lifestyle, and I just need to be able to find a way to incorporate that while still achieve my goals.
Lindsay:So I'm just going to interrupt there for a second. So listen to what he just said. Find a way to incorporate what I love and still get the result. I'm paraphrasing, obviously, a little bit, but that's the key, right there.
Ben:And you know it's interesting because we talked a little bit about that, because you know we do talk about what's going on, not not too much, because we just talk about the relevant stuff, but but with him in particular he started to share his food with me and he started to show me how he eats out and the choices that he made when we first started to work together.
Ben:So he kind of gave me a good insight into the choices he's making, the places he goes to. I think I said to like he eats quite a lot of Indian and Chinese, which just you know. It's like really that's delicious.
Ben:But also, you know it's a challenge because they're high carb, high fat. So we started working with that and we've made changes. Where he goes to the restaurant, he still eats his food, but he's doing some different things now and I think I'd said to you. For example, he does things like um, he splits his uh meal with his partner, so like they both order a main and they eat half and the other one eats the other half, that stopped them from getting a starter, so now they don't get a starter, Whereas before they would have got a starter and a main meal. Now one of them kind of gets a salad-y style meal main meal and the other one gets a main meal style main meal and then they basically they split seas right, which is a lindsey love, love it you know little things around um showing me these beautiful salads, but these beautiful salads covered with dressings.
Ben:All right, like let's now start to ask for that dressing on the side, or ask for a different dressing. You know, staying showing me these healthy, lean, fat-free steaks, but but with gravy smothered in gravy. All right, let's talk about getting that gravy put on the side right and just. These are the sorts of tweaks that we're talking about.
Lindsay:And slowly.
Ben:Yeah, totally, and there's weight loss attached to that, but it's I mean God, I say this. I think this is actually my new saying is you know everyone wants the results, but they need the journey here. My new saying is you know everyone wants the results, but they need the journey, and here's that word again Journey, not journey, right?
Lindsay:What are we going to do there, guys, help us out.
Ben:Help us out, but the idea being is right. Like have I used this analogy before about the lottery winners and managing money?
Lindsay:To me, yes, okay, whether it's been on the podcast.
Ben:So the idea about if I'm repeating myself. Well, you know I repeat myself. This is what I do, but the idea is, if you, if you look at lottery winners, we there's a trend of lottery winners losing all of their money, going bankrupt and basically spending money, and the reason for that is they. They didn't earn the money, so they didn't develop their wealth management tools and money management tools and skills to save and budget and all of those things.
Ben:They just were given a big amount of money.
Ben:So there's a real trend where people don't manage that money effectively and end up losing it or get to the point where their life, you know, kind of slips back into old habits.
Ben:They didn't develop the skills to sustain the wealth that they now have. And I can turn around and say you need the journey, you need the work to be able to develop the skills so you can hold on to your health once you get it and maintain it. And what I mean by that is you need to learn how to move your body, you need to learn how to do certain exercises. You need to learn how to incorporate walking. You need to learn how to incorporate walking. You need to learn how to prepare food or choices to make or prioritizing protein or, you know, avoiding certain things. So there's certain things that you can only learn as you go and that's the stuff you need. So you we can't just give you health and I guarantee if we, if we, were able to give you health, you'd probably lose it within 6 to 12 months, 12 to 18, because you don't have the skills to keep it. So you're learning the skills to get there, and those skills that you're learning are the ones that are going to keep you there.
Lindsay:Right, it's kind of like your analogy way back when, when we talked about locking somebody up in the pantry.
Lindsay:It was a long time ago, long time ago, but the idea was that we could lock somebody up in the pantry. It was a long time ago, long time ago, but the idea was that we could lock somebody up in a pantry, we could give them the food, we could move their bodies, but the moment we let them out of the pantry, if they hadn't learned some of these skills, they wouldn't be able to maintain. Was it a pantry? I don't know, maybe it was just against the wall.
Ben:Locking someone in a pantry seems to defeat the purpose. I think it was an empty room, if I'm not mistaken, or I think it was an empty room, if I'm not mistaken, or it was against the wall.
Lindsay:Anyways, it doesn't matter, but it's true it's. You know you have to take. You know it's funny. We have these conversations. So our daughters are teenagers, our oldest daughter is graduating this year, and so we're having these conversations and, you know, anybody who has teenagers knows that they think they know a lot of things and we all know, as non-teenagers, that they don't know as many things as they think they know. But the only way to know those things is to is to try.
Lindsay:So our oldest Maddie went traveling by herself this Christmas, um, and one of the things she came back and she was really, really surprised at was that she was homesick and she you know, she had gone through this whole thing about like homesick. Yeah, I can't believe people get homesick. I got homesick as a teenager, as a kid, and she went through it all and then she was really homesick. But after she felt the homesick and after she went through that and after she was able to, you know, get through it and have this amazing holiday and come home, the lessons that she learned will then now take her into her next travel. And there's no way I could have, ben, could have or anybody could have told her this is what you would do until you experience it it's interesting.
Ben:It's really interesting because I even think with clients. What I encourage clients to do, which is exactly that, is like nobody. I always said nobody, sorry. I always said two-year-olds don't like being treated like by like two-year-olds, right. So there's no way adults like to be treated no, nobody wantsyear-olds as well.
Ben:No, nobody wants to be told what to do, but that's the thing is, when we work with clients, we share our observations, we share our experience and say, look, these are the things that we've seen work, these are the things that have worked for clients, these are the things that have worked for ourselves. These are the things that kind of science and nutrition, fitness et cetera is accepted as the levers that you pull right. But I always say you've got to make this your own right. If I'm going to give you this piece of advice or give you this observation or this skill, this tool, then you've got to take that tool from me and then you've got to make it your own. So you're going to have to be able to figure out. Well, when Ben says I need to eat more protein, like I've got client A that turns around and can eat, you know, chicken and fish till it comes out of their ears. But I have a new client that basically eats a predominantly vegetarian diet.
Lindsay:Right, or I have a client who's allergic to chicken, so what? I'm going to turn around and say well, you have to eat chicken while I am a vegetarian.
Ben:So the idea is like well, okay, the principle is going to be more protein. The reality is, if I'm a vegetarian or if I'm open to different types of meats, you're going to put that together differently. You've got to put it together in a way that you love. Therefore, you can be consistent. Therefore, you can do it long term. Therefore, you will not only get your results, you'll maintain them as well.
Lindsay:Well, I think that's a really important thing, and this is something that I know we've spoken about many, many times. But ultimately, you have to find what works for you. You know, and when Aunt Jane's sister's best friend tells you about these shakes that have done her wonders and she's lost weight, I'm not saying she's a liar, I'm not saying she doesn't doesn't have weight loss, but it may not work for you, right? You know, we say this with the GLP-1s and Ozempic. We say this with shakes and pills. And you know the next best thing they all do work for certain people, but if you don't take it and make it your own, you're going to really struggle with that, and so what we do is we really help encourage you finding things that work for you and then tweaking them to make them your own.
Ben:It's your journey. Back to the journey. You got to own it. But, like you are the, you know you've got to advocate your own health. So, even when you're working with us or working with other experts in this field, at the end of the day you are the one that determines how you put it together. Right, you got to take that guidance, but you've got to figure out how you can incorporate that into your life in a way that you love. I mean, I keep coming back to that, but the things that I do exercise wise, the things that I do eating wise, I do them because I love them and they're healthy and good for me.
Lindsay:Yeah.
Ben:I don't do them because I hate them and they're good for me, right, because I just wouldn't do them.
Lindsay:Right. Well, and oftentimes I say and if you've been working with me for a while you'll hear me say it I mean you're your own best lab rat. Okay, so, even though nutritional science background, I can do lots of things in the lab with beakers and stuff, it doesn't matter because you are your own best lab rat. You know, I often say to people it's very gray, there's certain things that are very gray. It's not just black and white, because just because it could work in a lab or work with your friend or work with someone else, it might not work the same way with you. So you got to try it, you got to figure it out, you got to see if it works right. If you're not great at cooking, that's great. What can we do instead? If you don't love going to the gym, fantastic, what do we do instead?
Ben:And so finding those things is the key to your own journey, and I think that's super important as well in terms of you know, if you don't like preparing food, there's ways to do that very quickly and easy, and we've talked long, long find any episode long time about the reality of you know.
Ben:we kind of make it our own personal mission to encourage being able to prep meals in less than 10 minutes. We're basically trying to feed ourselves tasty food that's healthy, that supports our goals and that does not require you to become a chef.
Ben:That does not require you to spend hours and hours in the kitchen, and that does not require you to, like Lindsay says, put together complex recipes, et cetera, unless that's your thing. And if that's your thing, cool, because there's. The reality is you can get fit and healthy by doing either one of those.
Lindsay:Yeah. So anybody that says you know, the health and fitness industry, the nutrition industry, has said you have to do it this way. You have to do my fitness pal. You have to measure your food, you have to, you have to, you have to, and you know quote unquote have to have to. It's the only way. I'm telling you. It's not. Not only have I experienced it, ben, personally. We've seen the weight loss, we've seen the changes in our body, we've seen how we eat differently, but we've had hundreds of clients do so. It doesn't have to be that way. Um, so just remember, when you're looking at your journey and you're looking at your destination versus, so your direction versus your destination, it doesn't have to be any way and I think the the you know the.
Ben:That's where you have to develop a base level of knowledge. You don't have to become a professional, you don't have to become an expert, but you do have to build your knowledge.
Lindsay:For yourself.
Ben:And that comes with time, right. You need to be able to identify what a good source of protein is multiple variations. You need to be able to understand what food types to be wary of and eat infrequently or manage your portion sizes.
Lindsay:Right, and if you don't want to do that, that's what Ben and I are here for. It is, but you're going to learn through osmosis anyway right, A hundred percent.
Ben:So many of our clients will say to us I was going to eat this and then on one shoulder they've got like an angel. On the other shoulder they've got the devil and in their brain they've got like an angel. On the other shoulder they've got the devil and in their brain they've got me jumping around and say what would ben say yeah what would ben say? And the answer is he would call me an idiot.
Lindsay:Basically, I mean obviously I wouldn't unless no, that's not true he actually would and I'm sure any one of his clients could could, uh, bring up. I don't even know what I was listening to the other day. He said something and he's like yeah, I'm not going to call you, and then whatever it was and obviously it's all in jest, of course, but yeah, that's you definitely would we call them? What did?
Ben:you say I love the way you said this once. It's like we we indoctrinate people. But you said if you hang around with me long enough, I'll indoctrinate you into my way of thinking yeah, and it was something about. Actually it was something about positivity it was positivity, yeah but the idea, you know, if you spend enough time with us, you know you will pick these things up and if you apply them and take action on them, they will make a difference.
Lindsay:Yeah, so episode number 47. You listened to all of them. You're getting closer. You're getting closer Totally.
Ben:And it's one of those things. I mean, all of the things you need are in the episodes that we have already released, yeah, where you literally could go through those with a fine tooth comb and pick out everything and start to apply them, and you would start to get the results and not necessarily need it as part of the journey.
Ben:The reality is the one thing you won't save. There is time that's going to take some time to do, and I don't just mean like hours or weeks or months. Right, it's going to take you some time to do, and I don't just mean like hours or weeks or months. It's going to take you some time to tweak and what we can provide is the shortcut, so we actually can provide you with the shortcut that you're looking for.
Ben:But I was saying to a new client this week you have to have skin in the game and sometimes that skin in the game is a financial investment.
Lindsay:Right Time investment.
Ben:Because if you don't have something invested I'm not talking about working with us or other coaches. I'm saying you have to have something that will hurt badly if you lose it, and money is often the best way to do that. And ultimately, you know, if you're laid there and you need to get up for a workout on Monday and you're working by yourself, it's super easy to be like, ah, I won't do it. Oh, super easy to be like, ah, I won't do it. Oh, yes, I know that very well. But if you are the coach that's waiting for you, that you've paid for and you've got a financial investment in yourself.
Lindsay:with that coach, you'll get out of bed. Yeah, anyways, I think we wrap it up here Again. The direction is super important, right?
Ben:We want you to know that it's Love the direction, not the destination.
Lindsay:Love the direction, not the destination. Love the direction, not the destination. Definitely not the journey, because we haven't found a good word for that yet. But, as always, we will be here again next week. We are appreciative, of course, of every download, every share. We love the messages, we love the questions. Please, please, keep doing those, because they are what makes us so excited to come back each week episode 47 will run out.
Ben:Nearly.
Lindsay:That means we have five weeks until we have done 52 of these and last time I checked, there's 52 weeks in the year well, unless last year, when you got me there, because it was a leap year, yeah, but that was just an extra day.
Ben:That wasn't an extra week, it was 366 days in my challenge.
Lindsay:Anyways, guys, have a fantastic week and we'll see you again.
Ben:Yes, we will See you soon.
Lindsay:Bye.
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