MOBILITY SPECIALIST ~ WOW! Your body like you’ve never imagined!

Meet Beth Grantham: The Science of Fascia and Movement Optimization

In this episode of The Carol Beringer Method: Amazing Movement, host Carol Beringer welcomes Beth Grantham, a physical therapist and mobility specialist from Brazil with 25 years of experience in movement science. Beth's journey into fascia work began in 2002 when she was introduced to a French school of posture, sparking a passion that led her through four fascial dissection courses and deep study of connective tissue.

Join Carol and Beth as they explore the fascinating world of fascia—the connective tissue that wraps around every muscle, organ, nerve, and vessel in your body. 

Watch as Beth demonstrates her fascial reorganization technique on Carol, targeting the quadratus lumbaris and thoracolumbar fascia to create space, improve mobility, and reduce pain. Whether you're dealing with chronic pain, frozen shoulder, carpal tunnel, or simply want to optimize your movement, this conversation reveals how fine-tuning your fascia can transform how your body functions.

About Elizabeth Grantham:
Beth Grantham is a physical therapist with 25 years of experience specializing in fascia, movement science, and postural reeducation. Trained in Brazil and certified in multiple modalities including Pilates and Rolfing concepts.

Connect with Beth:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ej.grantham/?hl=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.j.grantham/

Practice Location: Wayne, PA

**CHAPTERS: **
00:00 Introduction to Amazing Movement Podcast  
01:38 Meet Beth Grantham, Mobility Specialist  
02:15 From Brazil to Movement Science  
03:53 What is Fascia?  
04:20 Introduction to Rolfing and Fascial Release  
05:07 The Fascial Dissection Journey  
06:39 Fascia: The Connective Tissue Sweater  
08:12 How Fascia Relates to Chronic Pain  
08:52 Four Fascial Dissection Courses  
09:21 Why Everyone is Different  
09:48 Collagen and Elastin: Structure and Pliability  
10:27 Biotensegrity Models Explained  
11:36 Collapse vs. Proper Structure  
13:06 Realigning Collagen Fibers Through Movement  
15:04 Chronic Pain Doesn't Have to Be Forever  
16:06 The Pelvic Floor and Lower Back Model  
18:07 How Past Injuries Show Up Decades Later  
20:01 Investigating Your Body's History  
21:22 Understanding Soft Tissue  
22:35 Tendons, Ligaments, and Fascia Functions  
24:52 New Discoveries About Muscle Attachments  
25:38 30-40% of Muscle Power Comes From Fascia  
26:10 Starting With Postural Evaluation  
27:45 Carol's Experience: From Diaphragm to Carpal Tunnel  
29:59 The Orchestra of Movement  
30:35 The Core and Pelvic Floor Foundation  
33:12 Live Demonstration: Fascial Reorganization  
35:42 Working the Quadratus Lumbaris  
37:28 Active Movement Integration  
39:48 Carol's Results: Lightheaded and Lighter  
40:36 Next Steps in the Journey to 100

ABOUT CAROL BERINGER:
With 25+ years of experience, Carol combines expertise in brain-based functional movement, Pilates, and yoga to help clients achieve improved posture, pain relief, and lifelong wellness. Her compassionate approach has transformed lives of individuals aged 6 to 96.

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Transcript

Carol Beringer (00:00): 

Welcome to my weekly podcast. I'm building a community embracing wellness and joy as a lifestyle. Join me as I explore diverse self-care practices to live as well as we can for as long as we can. Let's embark on this vibrant journey together. Welcome back to another episode of Amazing Movement, and if you've been watching Amazing Movement is because I do have a Pilate studio and work with functional movement, but I also am 72 years old and over lifetime. Learned how to move forward no matter what life throws at you, whether you have an emotional or a physical or whatever thrown at you that you just take it in stride, put it behind you and move forward. So this amazing movement also includes brilliant people that I meet in my path on the way to attaining and maintaining wellness as long as we're going to be on the planet. 

(00:59): 

And today I am lucky enough to have Beth Grantham here, and Beth is as I know her and have met her as a mobility specialist. So I work in functional movement, which is bigger bits, and Beth also works with those. But she fine tunes things that are absolutely mind blowing. So I'm going to turn it over to Beth and tell you about her work and how she came to be working here. As when Beth speaks to you, you might hear an accent. She thinks she doesn't have one, but she'll tell you how she arrived here and where she's going. 

Elizabeth Grantham (01:38):
 Thank you for having me, Carol. Oh, my pleasure. This is very exciting to be here in this movement 

studio, right? Because that's how your space is to facilitate movement, and that's our passion, right? 

Speaker 3 (01:52): Yes, 

Elizabeth Grantham (01:52): 

Yes. So I'm a physical therapist. I'm from Brazil, right? I graduated 25 years ago. So I have this movement passion since probably 2002, three, where I was introduced to a French school of posture. That's how everything started on my life, on my career, on posture, reeducation, and how from there, I think I was very lucky to be taught by him how the body was all connected by them. So we were already talking about the fascia lines, the connective tissue, connecting everything. Still, we didn't know that time a lot about fascia itself, connective tissue properties or function, the role in the body. But he gave me the structure of the body, how I should be looking to a body movement from the top of the head to the bottom of the foot. So that's how I start to pursue this career through movement science. So from there, I got into a lot of different schools of thoughts related to Pilates was one of it, right? Because a lot of people in Brazil starts to practice Pilates and they also come to me. So I wanted to understand the interface between my work and Pilates, and we didn't have much yoga at that time. But right now we have a lot of people practicing yoga, thank God. Because every movement is good. That's what I keep saying to people, right? It's like there's no wrong movement. We just need to find that movement from that period of life that you are having right now. And 

Carol Beringer (03:53):
 Movements, healing moves, everything healing. Now you keep mentioning fascia. 

Elizabeth Grantham (03:57): Yes. 

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Okay. 

Elizabeth Grantham (03:59):
 So how this came to my life more deeply. So the year was 18, 2018, I have a very close friend from 

college. She's a rofer. I never studied, but she introduced me to some concepts of Rolfing. And 

Carol Beringer (04:16): That's a method of massage. 

Elizabeth Grantham (04:20): It's a fascia release, 

Carol Beringer (04:22): I would say fascia 

Elizabeth Grantham (04:23): 

Release with integration. So there are different tots like lines of tots. So either Ro was the one that was big in this, and then this French school that I studied, Philippe Socha, that was from French madam that was from French. So Europeans, they have this more holistic approach, and I would say more proactive wellness approach. They to 

Carol Beringer (04:51): Don't wait until you get sick. 

Elizabeth Grantham (04:52): They don't want to. Yes, you 

Carol Beringer (04:53): Want you not to get sick. 

Elizabeth Grantham (04:54):
 Exactly right. So there's the role thing. So this friend introduced me to that and she invited me to go. She 

invited me to go to a fascial dissection course. We 

Carol Beringer (05:07): Specifically 

Elizabeth Grantham (05:07):
 Facia, okay, we are going to talk about that. 

Carol Beringer (05:09):
 We're getting there. Okay. Because I'm curious now how you describe it, because it's not something that 

people are familiar with. 

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What happened is when she brought me that I started to study more of that and I started to realize that that was linked to a lot of coins that I used to have in the past that were stuck in chronic pain. So this journey brought me right where I am right now and link it to the past. So fascia is the connective tissue that holds the body together and has several roles and function from support, from movement, from the relationship with the nervous system. So this connective tissue has an important hole also in pain. So it's where all the receptors from the nervous system they live there. So when we have any disruption on the system, so how I describe to the clients, to make it more clear to understand, think about a cake. So you have a big cake with several layers of filling, right? This is our connective tissue that wraps around muscles, ligaments, nerves, vessels, organs, the brain, 

Carol Beringer (06:38): Everything. 

Elizabeth Grantham (06:39): 

Everything is there. Anything that misses everything is rapid with connective tissue because this comes from the embryo. So one of the fascinating things to study, it's embryology how the tissues are formed and how they developed. And this is the connective tissue that folds. Remember when in biology, when you have the embryo that starts to fold. So that's the beginning of the pockets of connective tissue that will differentiate in muscle differentiating in nerves and vessels. So this involves the whole body. 

Carol Beringer (07:17):
 So it's like the sweater that knit your body together. 

Elizabeth Grantham (07:19):
 It's a sweater, but it's not just an outer sweater. 

Carol Beringer (07:22): No, it goes around 

Elizabeth Grantham (07:23): 

Everything. It goes deeply. It wraps in. So it's a weave, right? It's really like that. So this is the connective tissue and all of these properties and functions, they started to study that. I would say more. They've been studying that, but it's coming more and more 15 years to now. So right now we know a lot of things. There's even this research society, the Fascia Research Society that tries to bridge the science with the clinical practice because that's what we need. We need to bring this knowledge to apply to our clientele because the outcome, it's to get people better and live longer and better 

Carol Beringer (08:11): And move better 

Elizabeth Grantham (08:12): And move better. 

Carol Beringer (08:13): Yes. 

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Like movement, like you said, it's it's 

Carol Beringer (08:18): Healing. 

Elizabeth Grantham (08:18): It's healing. It's life. It's 

Carol Beringer (08:20):
 When we stop, we stop. It's use it, lose it, all those things. Yes, 

Elizabeth Grantham (08:23): 

Exactly. Yeah. So when I started to study deeply 2018, I started like, ah, that's why that client didn't really improve on that thing. So I started to make the bridges myself, and then I started to get more interested than I dove into that. 

Carol Beringer (08:46):
 You've been to how many dissection courses? So she goes to figure out 

Elizabeth Grantham (08:52):
 How everything, it's kind of addicted to learn anatomy. So I've been to four dissections right now, 

planning my next one right now 

Carol Beringer (09:03): I know can't get enough 

Elizabeth Grantham (09:04):
 Because every human being, because we can talk about the properties of the connect tissue to explain 

these differences that we say to everybody. Oh, everyone is different, right? It is. 

Carol Beringer (09:20):
 They've had different life experiences, 

Elizabeth Grantham (09:21):
 Different life. And then we can see in the dissection how 

Carol Beringer (09:26):
 If they sit at a desk too long, if they tell everything, 

Elizabeth Grantham (09:28): 

Everybody tells a story and how it tells a story. Because we have the connective tissue, the basic form shape of the connective tissue. It's collagen fibers and allin, right? This give me structure and pliability. That's how we need to think about our body. It's almost like 

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Collagen. 

Elizabeth Grantham (09:48):
 Our body needs to be unbreakable. 

Carol Beringer (09:51):
 And then the elastin keeps you plastic. 

Elizabeth Grantham (09:54):
 I love to think about a bamboo. A bamboo 

Carol Beringer (09:58): Can sway, 

Elizabeth Grantham (09:59): 

Can sway, right? But doesn't break. So that's how this connect. Connective tissue needs to be pliable, but strong enough to support the load because by the end of the day, our fight, it's against gravity and ground reaction force. So that's why I brought those bio integrity models to explain that, right? 

Carol Beringer (10:27):
 So tensity, so that bio meaning body and tensity meanings the pliability or the movement. 

Elizabeth Grantham (10:34): It's the structure. 

Carol Beringer (10:35): The structure. 

Elizabeth Grantham (10:36):
 It's a structure that allows my body to have space to move. So you see, when all these rubber band here 

Carol Beringer (10:45):
 Does this replicate, this replicates your spine. 

Elizabeth Grantham (10:48): 

This is the spine. This is the spine, right? This replicates the spine and how the body can move to multiple directions when they have a good structure. So we think a good structure comparing to a collapsing structure, for example. So when I have this stile force in the right place, I have space free of impact or compression 

Carol Beringer (11:16):
 Decompression. So decompressing and strengthening. 

Elizabeth Grantham (11:19): 

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So my own body when well work it. And then we are going to talk about how movement, how even 

manual applications or different modalities can help me to keep this structure well organized. (11:36): 

So when I lose this tension, this happens. So I have a collapse. So I have a compression. So my goal as a movement specialist is to try to restore the structure of that tissue. And yes, it's possible we can restore that because we have cells in the connective tissue that produces collagen. It decrease as we age. Yes. But if we stimulate that fibroblast, which is it's the gold cell in the connective tissue, it produces more collagen. And then the correct load, the correct pooling and torsion, that's what this cell likes will rebuild. That structure will align the collagen fibers in the perfect way to give me the structure that I need. And then coming back to the different bodies, how I know that that body was sitting in a desk for the whole life because the collagen fibers, they align in a different way. So when I have a load more in this area, for example, this here, it's going to produce more collagen and it's not going to be correct aligned. 

(13:06): 

So I know that I had much more collagen deposition here, almost like a scar, a fibrosis, right? So this is not going to function well because too much collagen is not good. It needs to be the correct load to produce the correct load of collagen there. So then when I do apply a movement here, I apply some technique that target my connective tissue. I can realign that. So we have research already pointing that we can recover that even though you are older, even though you never did exercise in your life, we can change that tissue. 

Carol Beringer (13:56): We have the power. 

Elizabeth Grantham (13:57): 

We do have the power. We do have the power on us. So the work that I do with movement and some manual applications together, it's going to provide that reorganization. So we talk a lot about fascia release, which is great, but we were missing a link because you release, but then your body doesn't know where it is in space. So we need to make that connection with the muscle fibers that are inside of those pockets. And then with the brain, with the nervous system. And there's so many other things that we can talk about the role in the immune system. So many new research that came right? Immune system, parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system system, superficial fascia, deep fascia. And what's the function of those and the role of pain and fascia. So there's so many things 

Carol Beringer (15:04):
 I know and people get so accustomed to a pain that they have is something from an injury and well, that's 

just the way it is. And then it doesn't have to be. 

Elizabeth Grantham (15:13):
 It doesn't have to. That's what I, so usually when people like my clients arrive, they tried a lot of stuff 

because there is good stuff out there. But sometimes we miss this fine tuning 

Carol Beringer (15:29):
 And they don't even know that it exists. 

Elizabeth Grantham (15:31): 

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Exactly right? And then we need to make this bridge to find this tuning to get them. Oh, they will feel 

empowered. Empowered, 

Carol Beringer (15:42): Yes 

Elizabeth Grantham (15:43):
 Into that. Oh, now I know how my body function, how my body and what's going on, and I can live 

without pain. 

Carol Beringer (15:52): 

And the more that you understand, the more that you can progress. Where if you don't understand what's behind it, you can improve. But knowing why it works is so much more. It's valuable. Yes. What's this other toy? 

Elizabeth Grantham (16:06):
 So this here, it's a pelvic floor and lower back model, biotin model. 

Carol Beringer (16:14): 

And isn't it like 85% of the planet? Because this big torso plug plugs in to your pelvis that this huge torso being supported there on wobbly stilts. So many people have the low back issues because of compression. And when we speak about a weak core that here's this vast part in the front that has no bony structures, you have to use it. 

Elizabeth Grantham (16:43): What is in between those bone 

Carol Beringer (16:45): Structures? So lots of 

Elizabeth Grantham (16:47): 

Fascia. A lot of fascia. And then we have different, for example, for this back part that we have here, because we were not in this position in the past, so now we stand a lot. We seat a lot. So we put a lot of pressure in here. But this area here, the fascia is more fibrous. So depending on the area of your body, fascia is going to do a different role. So here the fascia is going to be fibers almost like a ligament. When we study different parts of the body, we can see that the collagen fibers, they are in different shapes because 

Carol Beringer (17:36): Different 

Elizabeth Grantham (17:37): 

Density, they need to sustain different loads, different pools. And then we come back to the engineering modeling. As I pull more on this side, I'm going to have like, oops, it went away. My pubic bone just broke. So we are going to have, it was a load. It was a load. See that was a load that I applied. And then the pubic bone just, of course it doesn't happen 

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That 

Elizabeth Grantham (18:07):
 Like that. Hopefully it can happen. But we have a distortion up to our lower back there to my SI joint 

here. So those engineering components will get placed into the body and then the fascia 

Carol Beringer (18:30): Adjusts. 

Elizabeth Grantham (18:32): 

It needs to adjust. And that's how we made it through. For example, you had that injury when you were on your twenties. When your twenties, your body heal fast because everything you have hormones are functioning well, right? Your sleeps great. So everything that we know that help us to recover. So you go through, right? You do some quick recovery. Let's call a ankle is SPR sprain, right? You move through right when you're 50, your joint for example, or your hip maybe can complain, right? Why? Because 

Carol Beringer (19:15):
 You compensated since you were white 

Elizabeth Grantham (19:17): 

Because the body is smart. So you body starts to load differently. Then your connective tissue starts to get dense. Think about the cake that we talked in the beginning. We have all those layers, beautiful layers. You're going to take a piece and it's very soft, it's smooth. But when you are 50 that got like it stale, it's dry, it got together, there's no movement in between those layers. And that's when we have an issue. Because inside of those layers, 

Carol Beringer (19:56):
 They compensated all those years through all your movements, through all your activities. 

Elizabeth Grantham (20:01):
 And then my investigation goes from tell me everything from your childhood, from your birth. 

Sometimes we need to investigate your life to understand where this came from. 

Carol Beringer (20:16): It's still correctable. 

Elizabeth Grantham (20:17): 

Exactly. Because maybe we don't need just to do a bandaid. We can really reorganize the whole body because by the end of the day, my goal is to have your body functioning in an optimal way where you're not going to spend a lot of energy and you're not going to compress any of the joints. 

Carol Beringer (20:39): 

Now you find that with your clients, like most people, we take our bodies for granted. We were born, we got up on two feet, we start moving around. We have our work, we have our leisure activities, we carry babies, we carry briefcases, we carry laptops. We have all these different things that set up imbalances 

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that we don't even realize. And then eventually your body gets angry about that and decides to let you know you need to do something differently. When you talk about, so people know that they have a skeleton and they know that they have muscles. Very few people know about soft tissue. So soft tissue is tendons, ligaments, fascia, anything else, 

Elizabeth Grantham (21:22): Everything else. 

Carol Beringer (21:24): Everything else. 

Elizabeth Grantham (21:25): Everything else. 

Carol Beringer (21:26): Yeah. So you're organs. 

Elizabeth Grantham (21:28): 

Organs. So yeah, it's very more complex than we talk right now. We even have in the Facia Research Society, there's a research going on to get common names for all the connective tissue is structured to get this worldwide known for us to talk with each other. So you can think about all the organs, all the fascia goes around, reps around the vous. So let's talk about bladder, because 

Carol Beringer (22:03): 

Our people that are watching, they don't have a clue, probably most of them. How do we simplify this thought of how your body moves? Do you have something? You describe it to them? Because the more you're conscious here, the more that you can learn. You can through movements and your brain might catch up. But if we educate people, I don't know how many people watching know the difference between tendons, ligaments, fascia, and like you're saying, there's so many other things that come into play. 

Elizabeth Grantham (22:35):
 So we need to think about first function. If I think the basic muscle, ligament and tendon, they have 

different functions. 

Carol Beringer (22:46): What are they 

Elizabeth Grantham (22:47): 

Work together? Yes, they work together. So tendons, they hold the muscle to your bone, to your joint, but they really have this role of holding a big effort there. So they need to be strong. They need to be strong, and they need to be firm. 

(23:12): 

So here we have the collagen fibers in a longitudinal way where they think about the achilles tendon is the most famous standardon, right? It's vertical. It allows us to jump. So the strongest, I have this connection in this direction, the strong, not the strong, the higher and more pliable and more bounce. My jump will be ligaments. Ligaments have this role of stabilization. So it's an extra support for the muscles. Because 

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muscle also does, you guys work a lot in the gladdis stabilization, you use muscles for that. And that's one of the holes of the muscles. So ligaments, they have a little bit more of estin. So there's this difference. The estin is the elastic component, a little bit of more than the collagen. So they can go, but they break the movement. 

Carol Beringer (24:22):
 Do they connect bone to bone? 

Elizabeth Grantham (24:24): Depends. Depends. 

Carol Beringer (24:26):
 We think in general the tendons connect muscle to bone and the ligaments, but that's bone. But in general, 

Elizabeth Grantham (24:34): That's not true anymore. 

Carol Beringer (24:36):
 It's not totally true. But that's, 

Elizabeth Grantham (24:38): That's 

Carol Beringer (24:38): More than's 

Elizabeth Grantham (24:39): Good. 

Carol Beringer (24:39):
 That's more than most mortals know. 

Elizabeth Grantham (24:41):
 Yeah, okay. But one of the things that it's important to say here, why I'm going to say that. So they don't 

know, but they need to know 

Carol Beringer (24:51): Because 

Elizabeth Grantham (24:52):
 Now we know for example, the big glute muscle, 

Carol Beringer (24:55): The 

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Tendon that we taught that was inserted in the femur, it's not 

Carol Beringer (25:01): Where is it inserted 

Elizabeth Grantham (25:02): In the fascia. 

Carol Beringer (25:03): Okay? And 

Elizabeth Grantham (25:05):
 That means that if you don't have a good fascia, you lose power on your glute. You lose power on your 

hip movement. 

Carol Beringer (25:12):
 There's a very funny term these days called gluteal amnesia, right? There 

Elizabeth Grantham (25:16): We go. 

Carol Beringer (25:17): Yes, there we 

Elizabeth Grantham (25:18): 

Go. So we know now that 30 to 40% of the muscle power comes from the fascia. The elastic rebound from the fascia. So how you are just going to think about muscle now when you know this information, right? 

Carol Beringer (25:37): Yes. 

Elizabeth Grantham (25:38):
 So here we are talking for them to 

Carol Beringer (25:41): Give them the information, 

Elizabeth Grantham (25:42):
 To give them the information then to then think about and realize, oh, there's more that I could do for me 

than just going to the gym or doing, I dunno. Carol Beringer (25:53): 

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So what happens when you work with people? So we know about the tend eg that they need to have this mobility inside the joints so that you have balance. And most people are imbalanced. So where do you start with them? 

Elizabeth Grantham (26:10): 

So I start with them just looking at their movement. I try to understand how their body just stay against gravity. That's the first thing. I think the postural evaluation was left aside a little bit for a while, but I think it has its own own place when we can see how the forces of distances it's playing on that body. And that gives me a clue where my body is and where it should be. So where are the compensations? And then let's say for example, you come to see me because you have a shoulder issue, right? Okay, I can't reach up because I have pain or I just can't go right? Frozen shoulder is a big thing, especially on females around fifties hormone issue. Fascia has relation with hormones. We can have one episode 

Carol Beringer (27:08): About it affects, 

Elizabeth Grantham (27:09): We can talk just about 

Carol Beringer (27:10): Go 

Elizabeth Grantham (27:10): Meno for a 

Carol Beringer (27:11): Month. 

Elizabeth Grantham (27:14): 

So I look to this shoulder movement right now. I already see how the body just stays there. I see how this movement is how it should be to be optimal. If I think about my biomechanics, if I think about my anatomy, so I know how it should be. So now I'm going to see that and how the rest of the body behaves with that restriction. And that's how I'm going to trace my line of work. 

Carol Beringer (27:45): 

So when someone comes to see you, I know that I've recently began seeing you and I think you told me that at a minimum I needed to see you six times for you to address all the different things because I didn't get here overnight and I'm in better shape than many people my age. So I have things that have built over a very active lifetime and I want to deal with them and not lose my ranges of motion and try to avoid every surgery possible. So you were going to see me many more times than six. But I know that the first thing that we fixed was a diaphragm in the upper body because I had too much shoulder blade engagement, which most people have not enough because they're rounded forward over their jobs, their computers, their desks, their steering wheels, everything happens in front of us. So I have overcompensated in a way too much the other direction. So we corrected that and then I really have a big problem that's not an uncommon problem, especially at my age, is carpal tunnel. 

Speaker 3 (28:50): 

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Carol Beringer (28:51):
 We're working on the mobility of the fingers and the wrists and its connection all the way up to my neck 

because the nerve that goes through 

Elizabeth Grantham (28:58): 

As it almost like a glove, a big glove that wraps, that wraps back. And when we see the anatomical component, how remember the embryo folded out, this is how we can see where those connective tissue emerge together. And that's the points that we need to address where they get together. 

Carol Beringer (29:22): 

So when I come to see Beth first, she checks out if I've done my homework from the last visit. And fortunately these things work very quickly. They're very unremarkable movements with incredible benefit. And so I went and we checked that out and then we'll work on the next issue. And they're very simple and they're very manageable and it doesn't take much time and it's not painful and it's really reeducating. So my brain is doing the movement, but in the meantime between origin to insertion, we are making things move more fluidly 

Elizabeth Grantham (29:59):
 An orchestra, very much the orchestra example. Because if you have one instrument that's out of 

Carol Beringer (30:06): Tune, 

Elizabeth Grantham (30:06):
 That's out of tune, we don't get a melody. So every instrument has its own place to become this beautiful 

melody. So if one in between or on the end here, they're not there, we can't make it. 

Carol Beringer (30:25):
 And all the detail that we're telling you about is probably boggling your brain. But let's do something that 

shows that let's do something very simple that we can do. 

Elizabeth Grantham (30:35):
 And I talk coming here because Pilates, the foundation of the Pilates, and you can correct me if I'm 

wrong, it's the core, this foundation 

Carol Beringer (30:49):
 And different people have an idea of what their core is, and so they're very misleading. But the whole 

thing is to not 

Elizabeth Grantham (30:57):
 Here with you. They're not misleading. 

Carol Beringer (31:00): 

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We dispel all the myth, but the thing is that people don't know how. It's very superficial. And so what 

we're talking about is all the intricacies. And so we really start with 

Elizabeth Grantham (31:13): Love 

Carol Beringer (31:13): 

This love work, yes. Using your head to get back in touch with your body so that the conversation becomes not only just the core because seriously what is your core, which most people are surprised and we can't go into that. We don't have enough time. But what is your core? And then how do your extremities move from the core to create this symphony of smoothness and flow? So that coordination that you are traveling against gravity and making it your friends. So this interaction is the same thing that develops what you're talking about with the fascia, the EG with your relat. 

Elizabeth Grantham (31:58):
 Think about IEG as a space. We need space inside when we think about this pelvic floor and 

Carol Beringer (32:03): The balance. Yeah, 

Elizabeth Grantham (32:04):
 Okay, we need to think about this space and how hard for females, for example, Leos too. I think we 

forgot a lot of 

Carol Beringer (32:12):
 That. Well, our stuff's inside so we really have a better feeling of it 

Elizabeth Grantham (32:17): Because we don't stop to feel that, 

Carol Beringer (32:19): 

Right? And I've always felt this, when you talk to somebody, Amanda, about their pelvic floor, they're fairly clueless and it's the same. I mean they just have external stuff and we have internal stuff. So ours is inside. So we have a better connection to it. And when it's not, it isn't. But this pelvic floor is the same for all of us where the core starts and then stacks it up all the way. People come in and think that their core is their stomach, but that's an organ that digests your food. So we have to think. So globally, it's 

Speaker 3 (32:51): The six stacks 

Carol Beringer (32:52):
 And then that's all external. So we have to start from the inside out. 

Elizabeth Grantham (32:57): So that's what 

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My ideas, because we are probably running out of time. So we need to give everybody something, a hook to come back and see more of what we're doing. There we go, there we go. So that they know how simple this can be and what power it gives them. 

Elizabeth Grantham (33:12): 

Yeah. So let's do, so what I brought my idea was to work in the area of the lower back quad lumbar, which is this muscle that comes from the side of the lower back vertebras, connect to your lower ribs, to your pelvis, to the back here and does this side band movement, but also has some control on rotation of the trunk totally related with your diaphragm, which is part important part of the, again, 

Carol Beringer (33:44): Whole part that is makeup 

Elizabeth Grantham (33:46): Other 

Carol Beringer (33:46): Than from the pelvis. 

Elizabeth Grantham (33:48):
 Yes. We don't think about the anterior part of the spine, we just think about the back of the spine. (33:53): 

So it's important to address that. Let's do something you want to show. Yes. So I'm going to apply one of the techniques that I use, which it's called a fascial reorganization because it's going to include a passive load on that tissue to wait for the response of that tissue to open a little bit, those cake layers. Then I'm going to go to a shearing force which has been studied already, that produce that cake layers to be more hydrated, to allow more gliding, to allow more movement. And then we are going to do some movement together to reorganize, to tell the brain that now that muscle inside of that pocket has a space and can function again normal. So usually these area is the area that I like to start to work because it's the relationship with this quadra lumbar right there on the side of the spine, toric lumbar fascia, which is this big diamond fascia that is really strong because allows us to stand up, but also it's very innovative, so it can bring us a lot of pain when the cake layers are glued together. So here what I'm going to do, I'm going to get into the Torah, the quadras lumbars, just to give you some more space there. I am going to go very soft, gentle, just try to find space, allow the body to receive my fingers. 

(35:42):
 And most of the people have this area very tender. So you probably can feel more inside now. (35:57): 

And now I'm going to bring a little bit deeper and then people will not be able to see because I'm going to do a small shearing force. You're going to feel it. There we go. And now what we are going to do, you are going to move your arm like a flexion of the shoulder overhead. So you're going to move back there. And now here we can see how much limitation and how much these points that I am anchoring with my fingers in the connective tissue inside. It's limiting there, her shoulder flexion and then she's going to bring it back and going again. She's going to do that for four times. And as she goes, you're going to see that on the armpit area. She's going to start to get less limited there. She's going to go more. You can feel that it's getting better already. So the cake layers are getting more glide. Relax your neck, relax your 

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shoulder. There we go. Nice. And take a break. So this is one of the examples that I wanted to bring. We 

are going to do this motion here. 

Carol Beringer (37:25): Okay? 

Elizabeth Grantham (37:25): We are going to go forward 

Carol Beringer (37:28): And 

Elizabeth Grantham (37:28):
 Back, just a little bit of your torso turning. This is going to be the active movement that we are going to 

do. 

Speaker 3 (37:34): Okay? 

Elizabeth Grantham (37:35): 

So I'm going to go in here just you're going to feel like that separation from the rib cage. There we go. To your pals, you can feel that, right? And then I am going slowly inside. You probably can start to feeling that inside force now and then now I'm going to do some shearing force which people won't be able to see. Just you are going to feel it. Can you feel it? 

Speaker 3 (38:16): Yes. 

Elizabeth Grantham (38:19): 

So I'm just working different directions of that Quadra lumbar muscle, right? So now you're going to move your upper torso with your hand. Go there, twist. There we go. And then come back. You probably can feel that on the upper arm here, my upper arm. And come back one more time and come back. So now I want to do to bring your knee towards just the upper leg, the knee towards your belly. Just one. Just one leg. Just this one? Yeah. Bring up. Close to your belly. No, the other leg. Sorry, the left one. There we go. And keep going. So you probably can feel that you're getting space in your waistline right now. There we go. And then we take a break. Awesome. The idea was to get a space in here with this rotation, with that extension, trying to work on the different layers of the Quadra lumbar, which is in the middle of the Torah lumbar fascia, and they're part of the core. So what about we sit and try to feel the differences? And you can tell people. So amazingly, 

Carol Beringer (39:48): I feel very lightheaded. 

Speaker 3 (39:50): So 

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There was a lot of shift. So usually when you feel lightheaded you've released a lot of things. Correct. So what I feel is lighter and what I noticed on the first side was I felt it in my neck and in the second side I felt it in my groin. So that's how much we're connected, the different things, and I am a little bit more in tune than the general public to what the body feels like because most people don't know how good they can feel. So yeah, I think that's what we're noticing is that you've woken up something that was sleeping. So yeah, just maybe 

Elizabeth Grantham (40:36):
 You can bring your arm up because this is the shoulder that we 

Carol Beringer (40:40):
 Work on, so that is a lot less tight. Now this shoulder today was a little annoyed and it's better. I've used 

up this whole body, but I'm continuing to use it for the next 28 years. 

Elizabeth Grantham (40:54):
 There we go. I'm going to get to a hundred. We're going to be working for that. 

Carol Beringer (40:57): 

Yes. But thank you so much for coming to visit with us. Thank you. I'm filling our brains. Oh, I'm just like, I've got a lot to process myself. So if you'd like to get in touch with Beth, you'll see her information in the information below. See you next time. Thanks for joining me. Don't forget to subscribe. Send me any comments. Let's work together.