Breast Implants, Lifting, And The Truth About Recovery

Wondering if you have to give up chest day after getting breast implants—or if those horror stories about implants moving into the armpits are inevitable? Bree sits down with leading plastic surgeon Dr. Jerry Chidester to separate facts from fear and map a smarter path for active women who care about strength, aesthetics, and long-term health.

Dr. Jerry Chidester is a board-certified plastic surgeon and the owner and co-founder of The Plastics Clinic + Spa and Highpointe Surgery Center in Draper, Utah. He’s known for his expertise in breast and body surgery, serves as a national trainer in breast preservation techniques including Preservé™ breast augmentation, and teaches surgeons around the world. An entrepreneur with a large social media following, Dr. Chidester shares educational, real-world insights on modern plastic surgery while continually innovating how care is delivered and how aesthetic practices grow.

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SPEAKER_00 0:05

Are you looking for a space where you will learn to improve your mental strength, emotional health, and heal your insecurities from the inside out? Take the first step to living a more meaningful life with the Better Me with Body by Bruce podcast. I'm your host, Bree. I'm a certified personal trainer, entrepreneur, and mother of four. I've helped empower thousands of women to take action through fitness, nutrition, meditation, and mental development, and aligning thoughts with action. This podcast is for those who are ready to feel inspired and motivated to live a more purposeful life. Let's grow together.

Meet Dr. Jerry Chittister

SPEAKER_01 0:43

If you've ever wondered whether breast implants mean you have to stop lifting, or if you've heard horror stories about implant illness and you don't know what's fact versus fear, or maybe you've questioned whether your core will ever feel the same again after pregnancy, this episode is for you. Today we're cutting through the noise around plastic surgery and fitness with one of the most respected names in modern aesthetics, Dr. Jerry Chittister. He is a board-certified plastic surgeon, national educator, and co-founder of the Plastics Clinic Plus Spa and in High Point Surgery Center in Draper, Utah. He trains surgeons around the world in advanced breast preservation techniques and is known for doing things very differently in the best way. In this conversation, we unpack the biggest myths that women believe about implants and working out, what implant illness actually is and isn't, whether you really need to avoid chest training, how to know when ab separation crosses the line into tummy tuck territory, and the biggest mistake women make when returning to exercise after implants or a mommy makeover. We also dive into the newest techniques and trends every woman should know before making decisions about her body. This is an honest, empowering, no fear conversation designed to help you make informed choices without sacrificing your strength, your confidence, or your long-term health. Let's dive in. Hi, Dr. Chitty. Welcome to the podcast. We are so excited to have you. I know you're so busy. So I'm grateful that you're here taking the time to talk with us.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

Thanks, Bree. It's so good to see you again. I can't believe it's been several years, I think, since I was last on here with you. So it's crazy to see how often you've done, and it's good to be back.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Same. I know. Last time we talked, you were just not just starting out, but you had just kind of come on the scene in social media. And now looking at what you've built is so inspiring and incredibly motivating. I would love to kind of hear what you're up to before we dive into all these topics about lifting and implants and everything that's new in the implant world. What have you been up to? What is new with you?

Practice Growth And Whole-Body Approach

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Okay, we're gonna summarize about four or five years uh in maybe 15 seconds. So, yeah, since we last spoke, you know, I had originally started my practice in 2020, just the seven of us, small practice. I was using social media to really try to gain a following, but more so just to educate people on things like breast implants and plastic surgery, how cool it can be. And we just blew up, you know, utilizing all these outlets, I think giving good consistent results. You know, we grew, I ended up um hiring on several other surgeons over the last several years. So we have four surgeons now. We just hired four more. So we have eight surgeons coming this summer. We're opening two locations, one in uh northern Utah, Davis County, and then one in southern Utah and St. George. And our, you know, we rebranded as the plastics clinic back in 2021. And we've opened a med spa. We have a whole wellness, um, you know, functional medicine, fitness, nutrition component to what we do. Because really what we're seeing is plastic surgery is not just about the surgery. It's really about how you treat your body inside and out. And we really want to help people in that journey. And so it's just been fun over the last few years to just see all that happen. And the goals we have ahead are just really, really exciting. So, anyway, that's why it keeps me busy.

Under-Muscle History And Animation Issues

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Oh my goodness. Well, I love following you. I love seeing your new facility. It's beautiful and all the things you do there. It's it's amazing what you're doing. And I'm just really excited for you. So let's dive into our podcast. So, today's episode is for every woman who has implants or is considering implants, or maybe wants the mommy makeover, or maybe feels too scared to lift heavy because she doesn't want to mess up the implants that she has. A lot of the questions that I get in my DMs are either around like, what how do you work out with implants and how do you make sure that you don't mess them up? Because there is so much misinformation online. So I wanted to bring a true expert on here so that we can separate fear from facts. So, first, Dr. Chitty, my first question is what do you think are the most common fears that you hear from women when it comes to lifting weights after getting implants?

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Yeah, the most common fear is is this going to mess up my results, right? Um, because I think it's about we see more and more women just wanting to be super fit and take care of themselves. And, you know, the traditional way of putting implants in the breast to give women volume was underneath the breast, the pec muscle, right? So we call it under the muscle, or you hear maybe half under the muscle or dual plane. These are all different ways that surgeons since about 2000, early 2000s, started doing this. And the reason we started doing that back in 2000 was because in the 2000s, early, we only had access to saline implants. We didn't have silicone implants off the market for over 10 years because the FDA said, hey, you guys need to, the companies need to research, making sure it's safe to have silicone in your body before we let you bring it back in. So it was only saline back then. And saline bags above the muscle up to that time did not look good. You know, I mean, above the muscle, saline looked just looked like water bags, and they didn't feel or look natural. So in the early 2000s, um, there was a surgeon that said, hey, let's try putting them under the muscle, make it more natural in the upper breast pole. So that's where that trend started was in the early 2000s. And even the subfascial or above the muscle approach was presented around that same time in Brazil. But really, the under the muscle took off in the US. But because of that, you know, you can imagine when you have a big bulky volume implant underneath your pec muscle, you're trying to do bench presses or anything upper body, it physically can pull the implant. And so surgeons over the years have tried to find ways around that to affect your activity. But there's still a lot of surgeons, including myself, I say, look, if you go under the muscle, you have to be super careful. It could alter your results. And the reason why is if you're doing bench press as a pec contracts, the implant goes perpendicular to the muscle contraction. So that's why you see a lot of women with them down, out in their armpits, separated the cleavage lines. And so they're really worried about that. And so that's probably the main concern I hear about women with exercise when they're under the muscle. And that will be, we can talk about it, but it's totally different when we now look at the newer technologies we have with newer breast implants, internal bra, and going above the muscle.

Above-Muscle Shift And New Implant Tech

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Yeah, I've I'm seeing people start going above the muscle. And when I got my implants, I feel like it wasn't really big to go above the muscle, like you said, because you could see the rippling and it didn't look very good. But I'm seeing a lot of your patients loving going above the muscle because they can lift heavier and it's not affecting their. So would you suggest if you are a lifter to go above the muscle? What is your suggestion?

SPEAKER_02 7:48

Yeah, so there's kind of two camps, right? There's a lot of surgeons that still sit under the muscle is the best technique. I mean, they're used to that, and that's how I trained as well, right? And so that's what I learned. But more and more as I've looked at, you know, when women come in, I listen to their concerns and they say these things like, hey, I love to work out, I love to be fit. And I think in the era of, you know, GLP ones and nutrition and fitness, people really want to avoid changing their anatomy structurally, right? And be able to lift as much as they want. So there's kind of two camps. My I've kind of shifted almost completely towards protecting your muscle at all costs, right? And I think we can do that nowadays, even since we last spoke, because there's just better technology in the United States we didn't have even a year and a half ago, right? So, for example, um the latest breast implants with Nitrel, Mentor, Centro, those are the three FD-approved brands that have silicone implants in the US. They do have more gummy gels, and those more gummy gels or more cohesive gels hold their shape a lot better. And when they hold their shape better, if you go above the muscle, it's less likely to see rippling. And that was one of the main concerns is above the muscle, it ripples, it doesn't look good, right? And so with these newer gels, they hold their shape, they look more natural and can feel more natural. But now with the sixth generation implants, Motiva, who has now come to the United States since last year, I guess 2014, 2024, over a year, um, they even have more advanced technology in terms of, you know, they call it monoblock technology, 100% filled with gel. The shell surface is a little different to help protect, you know, you. And so the look of it above the muscle is very natural and can avoid rippling as well. And then you add things like an internal bra for some people who need that support. And now we're able to add lower pulse support without them dropping with them being above the muscle. So these are new technologies we don't have. And now, more recently, if you see, I talk a lot about now, it's called breast preservation or even preserve. So Motiva has a toolkit and a technique that certain plastic surgeons can do in the country, and they're and I'm training and teaching more and more people along with other trainers in the country. But this technique actually now, if it's your first-time augmentation, we only have to make a small incision in your skin. You can do this surgery awake in the operating room with a little bit of sedation, maybe none. And we can do all the surgery inside the breast without any incisions. And so now there's no dissection, there's no tissue damage. We preserve the nerves, we preserve the arteries, preserve the muscle, preserve the fascia, preserve the breast tissue, and now your recovery is quicker, you're having less pain. And so there's all these benefits that we're seeing. And I've been doing preserve for around six months now, and we're just seeing phenomenal results. So I just love where it's going for women in terms of being able to be active and having implants.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Yeah, and so that procedure is over the muscle.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

Yeah, yeah. We call it above the muscle or prepectoral. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

So how do you prevent? I know you said that you can do the internal bra. Is that something that people need to worry about? Is having them drop because they don't have the support of the pec? Or if you do the internal bra, we we don't need to worry about them dropping.

Internal Bra And Support Decisions

SPEAKER_02 10:51

That's an awesome question, actually. Because you know, the thought is that if it's under the pec muscle, the pec muscle and the capsule that forms around the implant kind of hold on, right, kind of latch on. They kind of stick together up high. That's why sometimes under the muscle, you kind of see the implant sitting high. When you detach the muscle, I do a lot of women where they're under the muscle and they just hate how they feel and move and they're active. So we actually convert it, we call it to above the muscle. And so we fix the muscle, we reinsert it, and then we add an internal bra. So I I personally, in my practice, believe that if you're gonna switch that from under to above, you do need support because I do worry about skin stretch and really depends on the implant size. The bigger the implant, the more support you're probably going to need. But that's regardless, because even if you're under the muscle and you have a heavy implant, you're gonna have that same issue. We see that same issue. So it's not like I wouldn't say muscle is magical in keeping it high, but I think it's much more likely to either hold it high or pull it out, right? And so not every person needs to be above the muscle, but definitely not everybody needs to be under the muscle, you know. And so I think now there's just more options, there's more tools. We can do whatever we need. In preserve, there's no internal bra needed because the breast ligament, we call it the circummemory ligament, that's truly kind of the secret sauce behind this concept of breast preservation, is we can place an implant within the ring of the breast, this ligament, this very strong ligament. That's what creates the roundness of your breast shape. And so when we put the implant in that space, it supports it. And so you really don't need an internal bra. Um, but in the end, it's gonna be up to the surgeon and the patient, kind of what their needs are, what what function they want, and then the surgeon's experience and tool set and saying, hey, you know what? Like you may not be a good preservate candidate because your tissue might be too thin. Let's do an internal bra support. Or we may say, hey, let's go into the muscle, right? So now we just have all the tools available to us. And it's super cool because now a patient can really choose.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Yeah, you have options. And I love that you're always trying to look for what the newest science is. Sometimes you find surgeons and they just stick with what they know and that's it. And you're always trying to find, like, okay, is there a better way, more efficient way? That's really cool. I think that's probably why you're so successful for sure.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

Thank you. That's amazing. I'll be honest, I don't even do the same breast augmentation today that I did a month ago. I've I've literally changed it more. And it's not that it's not that I'm experimenting. I don't do that. I've never never experiment on patients, right? But it's taking techniques and principles and slowly applying them. I mean, I've been in practice now for eight, almost eight years, and yeah, it's changed a lot, right? Even since we last spoke. But I do it very slowly. I don't want to do anything that would be, you know, either unsafe or whatever for the patient. But in the end, yeah, I've I've evolved and I think I've gone to the point where we could, again, create minimal to no damage to breast tissue, add the proper support so that you can have, you know, a good look that you want, but also have all the function you need and have the least amount of downtime. And I think we're very, very close to just having that augmentation.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

That's amazing. That is so exciting. I wanted to ask you about mommy makeovers, but before I do, let's talk to the women who do have implants that are under the muscle, that are lifting and working out, and they are nervous about them pulling into their armpits. Do they need to avoid chest day or pull-ups? Like, are there certain movements that will pull them into their armpits that they need to avoid?

Evolving Techniques And Patient Function

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Yeah, I mean, I I would say yes. No, it's everyone's anatomy is a little different, right? The way their your chest, like your sternum is shaped, your chest, the way your muscles insert, how big of implants you have, how much muscle was dissected by your surgeon. So, first off, if you ever have questions, you should talk to your surgeon and ask them because their technique is going to be different than mine, than any other surgeon, right? And so everyone's a little different. And some patients, because of their anatomy, regardless of the technique, they just their implants don't move. If they're doing pull-ups, push-ups, they don't move. And some patients, it's because of surgeon's technique, sometimes all the above. So definitely talk to your surgeon. But in general, most surgeons would tell their patients if you have underneath the muscle, like dual plane implants, probably first off, probably avoid any of those things like pull-ups, you know, bench pressing and all that. Um, or they say you can try it after you're fully healed, maybe at three or six months post-surgery, see how it feels. And if you start feeling pulling and weird things, definitely wear a supportive bra, but it could over time stretch out your lateral pocket. And I see that a lot now. I have so many active women coming in and they're like, why are my implants over here on the side of my armpits? You know, their cleavage is like four or five fingers. And I'll take the implants and I'll hold them up for them underneath the pec muscle, and I say, flex your pecs, and then they just go like this instantly as soon as they flex. So you can see we call that animation. And animation, um, you can call animation deformity or animation, you know, what's happening, meaning it's just moving the implants. And, you know, we saw this in breast reconstruction. So, well before cosmetic surgery, breast reconstruction, because women's breast tissue is completely removed, you know, with breast cancer surgery, and so we would have to hide the implants under the muscle when we used to do this. But now we don't do that for women with breast cancer because it's so deforming. Women with breast reconstruction and they move, you can see the implants moving, they call it severe animation. And so that's why even in breast reconstruction, we've gone to going above the muscle, even with no breast tissue. So we talk about rippling and thinness. Well, yeah, we've been doing this for a while in breast reconstruction for women. And we fat craft, there's other things we can do to thicken the tissue, but really want to avoid just that movement. And so we see this when people work out. And so you just gotta be really, really careful. I definitely say talk to your surgeon about that.

Safe Training With Under-Muscle Implants

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Yeah, you can definitely tell in bodybuilders, like when you see bodybuilding competition, it's they're always out by their armpits. That always scared me. So I when I got my implants, I didn't do a lot of direct chest work because I can feel it pulling, I can see it pulling. And it was, I'm not gonna lie, it was really hard for me because I could do like 15 strict pull-ups before I got my implants. And now I can barely do one because it's so uncomfortable to do that pull-up movement. And for me, I'm like, okay, well, it's not worth it to mess up my implants. Yeah. So I just had to take it out altogether. So I love the advice to listen to your body, see how it feels. Every doctor does a different technique. Um, but yeah, don't push it if you feel it pulling into your armpits. That's your sign. It's probably gonna continue to pull if you continue to do those movements.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

I agree. Yeah, don't push through it. It's going to alter. Now, if you're okay with it, altering your results, but you know, honestly, two or three times a week, I'm working on women and we're doing surgery to repair the muscle and put it above the muscle. This is a very common surgery we do now. And obviously, we have to assess the patient, make sure it's the right thing to do. But you mentioned something, you said it just didn't feel right, you know, it just felt weird. And that's something I hear so commonly when it's under the muscle. And the first thing I hear when someone's recovered from the surgery where we converted above the muscle is it feels so natural, you know, and they forget they have implants and now they can just do whatever they want. And I've told women, look, if I if I have to reinsert or sew back in your muscle, I can't guarantee your function's gonna come back. But I've had many, many patients now come back and say they're able to do all those things again, like you mentioned, like pull-ups, push-ups. And so again, it's gonna vary by patient, it's really gonna vary by how their muscle was originally dissected by the surgeon and if we can fix it. But I think you can get a natural feel and have normal function and a look. Um, it's still possible, even if you have implants currently, that you're having those problems.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

That's awesome. Well, when I do my next implant, maybe I'll go over the muscle. So it might be an option for you. Yeah. I did have another question that came into my mind when you were talking about the silicone. So, have they approved silicone? Is it safe? Does it leak? Do you ever worry about breastplant illness? Like, what do we need to know about the silicone versus the saline?

Silicone Safety, Illness Myths, And Data

SPEAKER_02 18:54

I love it. You know, so first off, when it comes to silicone in terms of medical grade silicone, you know, the breast implants are the most studied medical device in the history of man, right? Like, because when the FDA took them off originally, I mean, they've been around since what's the 50s, 60s, and they have gone through several generations, we call it, right? Like, kind of like the iPhone. There's different generations of iPhone, there's new things that come out, new features. Um, but now we're to the fifth and sixth generation of implants. And, you know, the the quality of these implants, you know, you hear the term gummy. I mean, really that relates to a safety thing because gummy means that the silicone inside these implants is a cohesive gel. The way that it's put together, this gel doesn't, it's not supposed to come apart, right? And then these implants have several layers. And the the shell itself is an elastomer shell. It's made of silicone, but it's at least five or six layers thick. They make multiple layers of this. And one of the key layers is called a barrier layer. So the barrier layer is really important to help prevent any silicone migration across the layer. Because even though you have the layers, there's these forces that can create silicone movement across, right? You hear about gel bleed and things, but that's what the barrier is for. And if you look at Motiva, the sixth generation, you know, they built their implant from the ground up. They said, hey, let's take all of these technologies, let's make the safest implant for women as possible. And so their barrier layer, they have a high quality control. If you look at a Motiva implant compared to other implants, they look a little bit different. That's because they have a quality control um shell. So that you can tell if there's ever a leak in the barrier or a hole in that shell layer, they won't ever distribute that implant because they don't want it to cause issues. So, with that being said, you know, I would say these newer implants are focused really on women's health. Even the shell design for Motiva, they call it a smooth silk surface. So, as we know, silk in the body, you know, silk is made by spiders and things, it's an inert substance, meaning the body doesn't react to silk. Your body doesn't try to like like get rid of it, right? It doesn't try to um break it down or attack it. And so the surface of this Motiva implant is very similar. The way they've designed it as a body just doesn't really latch on. Now, fifth generation shells do the same thing, very similar at least, um, but all these implants are aimed at decreasing the immune response in the body. So I tell women, look, you know, at the end of the day, they're very safe. The studies show they're safe. The studies on implant illness, there's a lot of really good scientific data now that's out there that uh Dr. McGuire and some other plastic surgeons have studied in women. And, you know, at the end of the day, though, I tell women, if you don't want an implant for one, you don't want four-body, that's fine. Like there's no forcing that. You know, if we can use your own fat and your own tissue, great, we can do that, right? But there just has to be an expectation of what the look is in a fat-grafted breast versus an implant. They're just very different looks. Fat is very, very natural, doesn't have much shape, right? Implant has a shape to it. So we just have to know that there's different options. But yes, I would say they're they're very safe. I mean, the motif of sixth generation implants are wonderful, fifth generation's great, but in the end, it's gonna be up to you. And then I tell women look, if if they do make you sick or we think you're sick, we want to work. That up. We want to make sure that if you're going to take out your implants, we really know if that's the cause. Because you know, half the time looking at these studies, half the time women take them out, they don't feel better. So it's something else happening, right? So that's the important thing. I think there's a lot of really good information out there. There's a lot of misinformation out there. So really it's making sure you're fully informed, see a board certified plastic surgeon, get all the information, and then you can decide do you want saline, you want silicone, you want fat craft or nothing, right? And that's the that's the beauty of the options we have today.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

So does the silk, because I remember they were recalling the textured implants because they were causing capsular contraction. So does the silk help limit that because there's not as much friction?

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Yeah, just to clarify, so the Motiva calls their shell smooth silk. It's actually not made of silk, but it acts like silk in the body, meaning the body doesn't attach. So it is a silicone shell, so it's not made of silk for Motiva. And the other ones are all silicone. Um, but yeah, the whole the whole point of that is just to say that yeah, the body has a less chance of responding and making capsular contracture. So we see that. If you look at the FDA published data from the five-year Motiva study that they had to do before getting approved in the US, um, I mean, their capsul contraction rates are extremely low. And that's a sign that, yeah, the body is just not attacking the implant. Now, the surface of this, um, the FDA, there's three different types of there's like a smooth surface, textured surface, like you mentioned. And then Motiva is approved as the third, it's called smooth silk surface, because there's not a textured, it's not a smooth. It actually acts like smooth in a lot of ways, meaning um there's never been a case of lymphoma associated, a primary case of lymphoma with uh so we call it ALCL. You may have heard of implant associated lymphoma. That's with the macro textured implants that you know were either recalled in the US or a lot of surgeons, we just don't use, I don't use those textured implants. Um, Motiva acts like a smooth implant. There's never been a secondary ALCL case with smooth or with Motiva in the world, with over 3 million, 4 million implants in Motiva. So I think they're safe from that standpoint, right? But then they more act like um, I would say, you know, they also don't make a thick shell. So like textured implants make a thicker capsule. That's why they stick because it's almost like Velcro. Motiva doesn't do that. Motiva, again, acts more like a smooth, it doesn't create that shell. So there's there's kind of the three different shell types in the US, and that's what we currently have approved.

Shell Surfaces, ALCL, And Risks

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Okay, great. Um, I had another question for you. What trends are you noticing coming up in the future? Like I noticed you're doing a lot smaller implants, you're doing more moderate implants. I'm noticing you do more moderate than high profile. Like, what are some trends that you're seeing happening?

Sizing Trends And Natural Profiles

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Yeah, no, that you you hit it right on the head. So um I looked back at all of my implants, like because I always look back at my own data and look at the cases I do. You know, we do research on it to see, okay, how can we get better, right? It's like everything we do, like when your fitness working out, you want to know what your PR is, you want to get better, right? So um, you know, with this, I look back to my data and my average implant size has gone down over 50cc. So on average, women are doing 50cc less. And I would say it's even probably more so this year. And I think with the advent of preserve, like I was talking about earlier with Motiva, where we're not having to make incisions, now women are just wanting very small, natural breasts because there's no downtime, not affecting their function, and they just want a smaller percure breast, right? And so even the upper fullness is more of a natural fullness, more of a teardrop. But we I still see both, right? We still see people that want in the 400cc, but truly, like that really, really large implant, it's just much less common than I used to see even in the early 2020s, you know. And so it's it's cool to see that shift. I do think less weight on the breast is good, honestly. Um, just because all the gravity and the weight of more volume is just more unpredictable. And that's why I think internal bra is great. It can help at least, but it really, in the end, it can't overcome the weight of like an 800cc implant. It's just not that strong. So it's nice to see that shift. I would say there's also a shift uh in terms of trends, right? To again above the muscle. Um, whether that's a trend or not, I personally don't think it's a trend. I think it's a functional benefit and an aesthetic benefit for women. But I think more and more surgeons are feeling more comfortable with the technology we have to do that and go above the muscle. I train surgeons on those techniques or how to give talks about it. So I think more and more people are accepting it and seeing it's a really good technique and long-term can give good results. And so that's just really exciting to me. And then even adding fat grafting and off-the-shelf fat for cleavage lines, that's another, I don't think it's trend, but it's an up-and-coming thing, right? So alloclay is something where it's actually cadaver fat, but it's not even fat cells, it's tissue from humans who have passed that is processed, all the DNA is removed. It's more structural tissue, it's not really fat, fat graft. Um, but then we inject that, it looks like fat, and then your body ingrows to it and creates volume. So your body doesn't create fat out of it, but it creates volume. So in women who are very thin in the cleavage lines, you can get a really nice, pretty appearance.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

That's amazing. Well, and I noticed a lot of women, have you noticed that women are wanting more moderate profile versus high profile, or is that the same?

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Yeah, I would definitely I so I looked at my data, and you know, for example, Motiva, they have three profiles. They have a mini profile, which is like a moderate, the demi profile is like a moderate plus, and then the high profile or full profile. And most of my implants now are going to be demi, which is a mod plus, or a mini moderate, more so than I did with full profile in the past, or even extra full. I don't do many extra fulls anymore.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

For women that are listening, that is like how wide they go versus out, right? So they know the difference.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Yeah, so exactly. So a moderate profile implant has a wider base and less projection or like less straight out of the chest, right? And so that means just less roundness overall, more natural, we would say. On the other end of the spectrum, a high profile, it's more narrow based and a lot taller coming off the chest. So it's a lot rounder to make that dimension work. So that's you know, I tell patients like if you're on the low profile and to moderate, that's gonna be more natural look, you know, and then on the high, extra high is gonna be more of an augmented look. And then we, you know, inspirational photos are super helpful because we can get an idea of kind of the look and the lines that you're wanting, and we match that with your body. We can do now 3D imaging. We do, you know, chrysalytics where we can actually show you what it will look like. It's actually relatively accurate. So there's just, yeah, a lot of really cool things we can do. Simulate having a lift with it at the same time, adding fat graph. We can do all this stuff with 3D software. It's really cool.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Wow, that's amazing. I did see that, well, just saw that you did um Taylor Taylor Frankie Paul's um augmentation, and they look so good. They look so natural, they fit her body so well. And on her tiny frame and how thin she is, it's really impressive that you got natural cleavage. Like that was really impressive because that's hard to do. If you can't tell, I love this world.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Oh, it's awesome. Well, you know, I'm I'm just impressed. Yeah, I've posted about it. She's she's allowed me to post so I can share a little bit. But yeah, I mean, she was originally under the muscle when I did hers several years ago, um, before every, you know, all the stuff that, you know, TV and everything. When she was under the muscle, you know, implant, and then she was having a little bit of issues on one side because she had some stretch, so we we converted her. So everything we talked about, we did that. We fixed her muscle, added some lower pole support with internal bra, and then we did a little bit different implant. We did a motiva, and then we did the alloclay. So that's how we're able to get more cleavage naturally, is when the muscle's not constraining us. Because some people's anatomy, their muscles insert very far, very wide on the sternum. So if you're underneath that, you'll never get closer, right? So you could add fat graft to kind of blend that, but really the implant just stays far. When you go above the muscle, we can go wherever we want. Actually, you have to be careful, you don't want to go too close, right? And create a uni boob. So we preserve the cleavage, but then we can add volume, like alloclay, for example, um, and give you a really natural look. It's it's very smooth and blended.

Cleavage Solutions And Fat Options

SPEAKER_01 30:10

I noticed it was very good. Good work, Dr. Chitty. Okay, I want to kind of shift a little bit into mommy makeovers because a lot of my clients and listeners are at the age where they're done having their kids and now they're looking to possibly do a mommy makeover, but they love to work out. So I asked, what questions do you have for Dr. Chitty? I probably got over 150 questions that came in. They were so excited. I know they were so excited. So I kind of just condensed some of them. I've already asked a lot of the questions that they have asked, but I want to know for women that are considering a mommy makeover, what do you wish that they understood before surgery if fitness is really important to them?

Mommy Makeover Goals And Core Benefits

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Oh, that's a great question. So, first off, a mommy makeover is just one part of the journey, right? And to me, um, if you think of mommy makeover, what does that typically entail? Because you can customize a mommy makeover. I call it mommy takeover because we're taking your body, you're taking your body back. So I call it takeover. But in a mommy takeover, you know, the surgery is just one aspect of everything you're wanting to have done, right? So you had your kids, physically your muscles are separated, and that's probably the biggest component is a tummy tuck for most women because you get that diastasis recti, right? Your muscles are gapped, and there's a lot of exercising and things you can do to help strengthen your core, but sometimes it's so gabbed, you're never gonna restore those muscles together. You know, there's no exercise that can physically fuse those back together, right? And so I think the most powerful aspect of a mommy takeover is the tummy tuck. And a lot of times women have a hernia with that because after pregnancy, at the belly button, you can get a little hernia where you know stuff's poking through. And that can be uncomfortable for women. But the tummy tuck, you know, we remove extra skin, we put the muscles back together, and almost like every single woman I've ever talked to, like immediately their core just feels more stable. A lot of times their lower back pain is gone, you know, because you're you're kind of compensating, right? When you're when your core is loose like that and you're trying to engage your muscles, you're using your back, you're kind of relying on those countering muscles on the back to support you as you're trying to lift and do things. But when you can offload that by putting the muscles back together, now you can really strengthen your core. So so many women, after mommy takeover, a tummy tuck, just see their definition come back, then get, you know, new records, and you hear all these cool things. Like women, like, hey, I no longer pee myself when I like do a jumping jack or when I laugh or sneeze, right? So that gets better. Lower back pain, like I mentioned. Some women have said their bowels, like a lot of times they have bowel problems, just you know, constipation, diarrhea, that goes away, right? And all this stuff makes sense because it's really restoring your core function in your abdomen and it allows you to do exercises you couldn't do before. But I tell women it's a journey, right? And so it's really important to be as prepared as you can prior to the surgery. So the surgery is kind of like the last step, right? It's like, and for some women it's not, but for many, it's like if you can get to your goal weight and where you want to be fitness-wise, then have your surgery, your results will be even that much better, right? And so everyone's on a different journey, like I mentioned. But that's the coolest thing is seeing women have that after surgery and the confidence that comes back is like mind-blowing to me. And I love that part of my job.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Yeah, that's exciting. I think it's cool when if they have like a goal, you know, like, okay, I'm this is my goal to get where I want to be after having kids. And then I can, when I hit my goal, I can see the benefit of all of my hard work and sew the abs back together and get rid of the excess skin. So that's I'm totally I'm all for women helping themselves feel more confident and working hard for that. Um, I did have a question with diastasis recti, because I'm helping evaluate the diastasis recti all the time with my clients. And I do tell them there is a point where exercise cannot heal this. So how do you how do you determine, yeah, this needs to be surgically healed, or actually you could heal this with, you know, physical therapy and the diastasis recti exercises?

Diastasis: Exercise Versus Surgery

SPEAKER_02 34:19

Yeah, because no, it's great. I love that. Because again, it's it's a combination, right, of things. It's like doing the exercises, doing the therapy you can to get to where you need to get. But what I tell women is, you know, we always examine your diastasis in clinic, right? And if you're and if you have functional issues first off, potentially, like all these things we just talked about, that may be one indication we should consider it. And no, so that doesn't matter. I mean, you could have a two-finger diastasis, you could have a four finger. And some women have a four finger and they have no no issues, right? So then it becomes an aesthetic problem. So is it either a functional issue for that woman, meaning they can't do what they want to do, regardless of how wide the diastasis is, or is it an aesthetic problem? Is it meaning like they feel like they look pregnant still after it, right? Or is it still bulging, or maybe they got loose skin? So there's two sides to a tummy tuck, which I think is super fascinating. But in the end, I tell women, look, if any of those things bother you, it would maybe make sense to get a tummy tuck. Now, I don't just align, like if you measured a diastasis, like if you got a CT scan or an imaging and you looked and you saw the muscle gap was three centimeters, right? Okay, that's one thing. It's stretch three centimeters. You can exercise and do things to strengthen your rectus muscles to maybe compensate for that, but that three centimeters is never going to come back together. There's no exercise that can do this, right? The muscle will get stronger and compensate, but it won't do this. Now, if because they're gapped and they have looseness and laxity, then we actually oversow. We actually, instead of just putting it back together, we actually oversow that so that it now it actually really flattens your core and restores the core strength. Because I do believe your muscles can get stretched out even from pregnancy, right? You think about it, like they're sitting on top through these strap muscles that get stretched from pregnancy. So they're not the normal length they used to be, or the distance. So even though the diastasis may appear to be close, the muscles themselves have either been stretched or there's too loose. And so, really, my goal with a muscle repair isn't just to get the edges together, it's to get your contour and the tightness back that you had before kids. And so sometimes when I'm correcting 10 centimeters in a woman when really their gap was only maybe three centimeters, that's just because they're so loose, right? So that to me is what matters more than just that physical diastasis.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Do you ever not suggest a tummy tuck for a woman? Is there ever a red flag or like you're not a good candidate?

SPEAKER_02 36:32

Yeah, so there's gonna be two things. It's the skin. So what's happening with the skin on the surface? Because sometimes women have, well, most women that get tummy tucks have looseness above the belly button, right? So below the breast down to the belly button, that's the upper abdomen. That skin is loose for pregnancy many times. And then from the belly button down to the pubic bone, that lower abdominal skin is loose. So if there's no laxity or looseness in any of those, then I tell them, look, you know, I mean, we can fix your diastase if you're having functional problems, but aesthetically your skin's fine, right? And so that may not be a time to do it unless they're like, hey, I actually functionally want this repair. So that's more of a functional surgery in that point. Um, and then yeah, sometimes if the diastasis isn't significant, even if they've had children and the aesthetic is just the little bit of loose skin or whatnot, we can do what's called a paniculectomy, where you just take out skin, if that's the problem, leave the muscles, and I've done that. Um, or we do liposuction, right, and skin tightening. But in the end, all these things are all in a spectrum, and you just have to see a plastic surgeon to really figure out what's like the best for what you want functionally and aesthetically.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Yeah. Is there a way to get rid of excess skin underneath your belly button without removing your belly button and keeping your belly button?

Mini Tucks, Belly Buttons, And Candidacy

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Yeah, there, I mean, there's like um hybrid mini tummy tucks. I used to do mini tummy tucks, and I think there are some women who are candidates for that, but really it can only, it's a very, very small fraction of women. I think a lot of them are like, hey, can I fit in that category? And it's like probably not. Or if you do, it's not gonna look very good. Because the belly buttons, it really depends on the position of your belly button naturally on your abdomen, depends on how long your torso is, depends on how much skin laxity, all these things, like they have to be perfect to be able to do all that without it looking creepy. I've just seen some, you know, surgeons, like they float the belly button, meaning they cut underneath, right? They cut the base of the belly button so there's no scar on the outside, but then they pull the skin down, the belly button gets pulled down with it, and then they reattach the belly button, but now the belly button's sitting so low, and you look like kind of alien because it's like, why is my belly button down by my pubic bone, right? It's just very weird. So it's just such a small amount of women, I think, who are good candidates for a mini tummy tuck, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Got it. That's really good to hear and know. Because I get that question a lot from my friends. Like, I wish I could do a tummy tuck, but keep my belly button.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

We keep it. So, like when we do a regular tummy tug, we cut around it, right? If you look at like my results in other surgeons, like you, it's you can hide the scarf. So the whole point of that is like make it look as natural and hidden as possible, but give you the function aesthetic you want, right? So you can definitely make it look really nice and unnoticeable. My favorite thing is like when I see some of my patients, like they're like dancing online and you can see their belly button, and there's not a single comment that says, Did you get a tummy tuck? That's how you know you did a good job because no one's like pointing it out. It looks natural enough. They can't see the scar, you know.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

Definitely, definitely. Yeah, the worst is when you can tell. And you're like, Yeah, they don't want you to tell. Yeah. Okay, so what does a realistic timeline look like for women who are returning to lifting after they get a tummy tuck or a mommy makeover?

SPEAKER_02 39:35

Yeah, it's definitely a graduated thing. Um, I used to tell women in the first two weeks. I mean, you should be up and walking, right? So the important thing is walking that mobilizes swelling, fluid, helps prevent blood clots, get your circulation flowing, helps you to heal. So those are all important things in the first two weeks, but we don't want you doing any lifting more than 10 pounds, especially with your core, because we put that the muscles back together with suture, but it does take around three months for that to really kind of fuse back together. So what I tell women is the first two weeks, you know, kind of walk around light treadmill stuff. From weeks two to six is when you can start doing maybe lighter exercising, but not really focusing on your core. Maybe you're doing light upper body stuff, maybe you're doing a little bit of light jogging on the treadmill, maybe some stationary bike stuff, right? But then when you get to six weeks, you can start activating your core more. Now you're kind of getting that to heal together. You can do slight things, but I still wouldn't do like sit-ups and just really aggressive core workouts until probably 10 to 12 weeks. Once you're at that 10 to 12 week mark, I mean, you can just do whatever you want. You might feel some tenderness and pulling, but you're really not gonna tear that apart. That repair has now kind of fused and scarred back together and it's strong enough where it's not gonna come apart.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

Got it. Okay. And then what mistakes do you see women make when they rush back too fast?

Common Recovery Mistakes

SPEAKER_02 40:54

Well, yeah, so in the mommy takeover, you know, we're talking breasts, a lot of times, tummy, you know, liposuction, labia plasti, right? So the the mistakes they make too fast is just doing too much weight and doing too much in the beginning. Because I know so many women are just like they want to get at it, right? It's like they love that and they're so good at it. And so it's so hard to have that downtime, even if it's for two weeks for some people, right? And it can be very emotionally and mentally um challenging for women. And so, you know, we try to find creative ways that are tailored to each woman that they can do things that like helps them. But I think, yeah, the biggest mistake is just probably lifting too much too heavy too soon, and that can um cause you're things like bleeding or fluid collections or other things, scars gonna be thicker, right? Because there's tension on scars, and if you're standing straight too quickly, because we have to pull you tight for the tummy tuck, you know, your scar is gonna be thick. And so these are all things that we want you to have great results. So if we can just preserve it for those first key few weeks to get through all that, you're gonna have beautiful results. Then you can do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

Okay. Um, what uh one more question. What is the most dangerous myth that you see on social media about implants and working out?

Dangerous Myths And Right Sizing

SPEAKER_02 42:03

Um, well, one of the myths I hear is about like getting an asana after working out and it's like leaching. That's not true. That is like categorically not true. There's people just spreading.

SPEAKER_01 42:12

Wait, what's the myth? What is that one?

SPEAKER_02 42:13

They say that like uh silicone implants will leach or leak through your body if you get an asana. You know? And it's just the weird, it's just not true at all. This, you know, there's some people online spreading this. It's not true. Um, these are baked, literally, the implants, the way that they're made to cross-sink the silicone, they're baked at extremely high temperatures. I actually threw one in an oven for Thanksgiving. I put in a turkey to experiment and show people. Like we had that thing at 400 something degrees. I mean, so that before that implant even starts to degrade, because they don't melt. Silicone does not melt and doesn't freeze. But before it starts to degrade, I mean, your body's gonna be charred, you know, so it's really not gonna affect it. So that's probably the biggest thing I hear. That's just not true. And then, you know, when it comes to implants in general, again, I think, you know, I don't think bigger is better nowadays. And so you hear that all the time, that phrase, like, oh, just go bigger, you know. And and okay, bigger is okay if it's like 20, 30 cc's. Maybe we need that to fill your cleavage a little bit. But we're talking like, oh, I need to go 100, 150cc more, or the surgeon's like, hey, I went bigger just because I thought it looked better. Like, that's just not gonna do you well in the long run, right? So I think really honing in on like the look you want. We have tools now. We have 3D imaging, we have sizing, we have all these different ways to really get you a really good look without like oversizing you.

Implant Longevity And Monitoring

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Yeah, I think that is so cool that you have all of that technology because before it was, I remember when I was trying to get mine, and this was like years ago when I wanted to do it after my second baby. And they're like, Okay, take this bag, stick it in your in your shirt. I'm like, how is this? It's like over my current, like, there's no way you could even tell. They're like, now look in the mirror. What do you think? I'm like, I don't know. So I'm so glad that you have. Have that. I'm like so jealous they didn't have that back in the day. That's really cool. Um, oh, I forgot to ask. How often do women need to replace them? Is there a timeline?

SPEAKER_02 44:11

Yeah, um, first off, the FDA, there's no like rule. Okay. So the FDA says there's no rule, like, um, but the FDA does want people to know women to know that they're not permanent devices. So, first off, at some point in your life, you're gonna take them out. Just like any other medical device, like a pacemaker, a knee joint replacement, all those devices are not permanent, right? They're not meant to be. But breast implants, typically on average, now with the newer, the fifth and sixth generation gels, there's no strict guideline. But what I'd recommend is typically what the FDA says so after five or six years of having your implants, you should either get an MRI or an ultrasound to check the integrity. We can do that in our office. A lot of surgeons have an ultrasound. We can look, we can see if the shell's intact. If it looks good, you can keep that implant. You can just keep keep rolling with it. And then then every few years after that, check it. So I would say on average, you're probably like 15, probably more years now. We used to say 10 years, and that 10 number, that 10 year was just kind of arbitrary. That 10-year number came from old data that suggested that after 10 years of a silicone or saline breast implant, every year after that that it was in your body, you had a higher and higher chance of it spontaneously rupturing. But now we look and you know, we just see implants these days, they're just so much more durable. That's just not really the case. And so the most important thing is just surveying your implants. And if anything ever changes or feels weird, let your surgeon know. We can ultrasound it or look at it.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Do they need to replace them if they're getting capsule capsular contracture?

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Yeah, I mean, if you feel like your breast is getting hard or it's uncomfortable, we're actually in a clinical trial right now with a company that's looking at how to treat capsulture. So if anybody wants information on that, you can reach out to me if you have capsular contract and get you more information. But yeah, if you if you're starting to have that scar tissue buildup and let's say you've had implants for 15, 18 years, I mean, those were the older implants, right? And so it's possible that you would need that exchanged. It's just, it's probably not the end of the world, but you probably want to get that taken care of sooner than later, just because it's uncomfortable, probably doesn't look normal. And when we take it out, you know, we're gonna replace it anyway. So yeah, probably easily see someone.

unknown 46:14

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

So it doesn't mean that their body will immediately like reject the implant again if they have can it maybe if they get a different implant, their body will react differently.

Capsular Contracture And Treatment Paths

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Yeah, you know how we understand capsular contraction in general, we do think it relates to some kind of, I wouldn't say bacterial contamination, but something that has to do, and we have bacteria all over our body, right? But something that kind of seeds that pocket, that implant, and then the body kind of creates this response. Almost like, you know, I kind of imagine like keloid scarring, you know, when someone gets an ear piercing and then they just get this massive scar. There's some process that happens in particular people for whatever reason that they just build a thick scar. And that can happen later down the road, too, right? If that implant ruptures. So um, yeah, capsule contracture, we we try to understand it, but when we take that tissue out and we put a fresh implant in, there is a chance that you're higher to get that to happen again than someone who's never had capsule contracture. We know that. So when you have capsule contract, that's why we're doing the study right now with this company, is because they say, hey, we actually have potentially a solution, right? But anyway, so um, there are different ways that we go about treating that. Um, and it's not sometimes just swapping the implant, right? It's like taking out the capsule, doing other things to try and prevent that from happening.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

Got it. Okay, that that this is so helpful. I'm hoping that our listeners are feeling like maybe they are in a consult with you. And I'm asking all the questions that they submitted that they were curious about. So to close, my last question for you is if there's one thing that you want women to walk away with, it's this. What would the one thing be that would be helpful for women who work out who are considering implants, or maybe who have implants that would be helpful for them?

SPEAKER_02 48:02

Yeah, the one thing I would consider is there's so many options. And if you're afraid, if you don't have implants, you're thinking about getting them, I think you're in a your prime position right now to really get a good console and have amazing results with just the latest technology that is new. It's it's I don't mean to say it's new, it's been around 15 years, but it really is something that we have now in the US that we didn't have before that gives you more options, right? To have the look and the feel and the function that you want. And when it comes to mommy takeover stuff, I would say, you know, you've sacrificed your body for all those years raising your kids. You literally sacrifice your body to bring children into the world and then raise them, right? And so I know women are the most selfless people, especially moms, right? And so you're the last person you want to take care of, you want to take care of your kids and everyone else first. But in the end, you got to take care of yourself too. And and whether that's with plastic surgery or not, that nothing to do with that. It's taking care of yourself. And that can be your mental, your emotional state, and your physical state. And that's why I think exercise is so important and your nutrition. And then if it makes sense that plastic surgery or like, you know, getting your body back is in there, great. Like I said, that's kind of the icing on the cake, but that happens after you've done all those other things. So take care of yourself. It's not a selfish thing. You totally deserve that for yourself.

How To Work With Dr. Chitty

SPEAKER_01 49:15

I love that message. No shame. I love that. Well, I'm so grateful that you're here, that you shared so much information with us. I'm scared to ask this question, but if someone wants to work with you, don't you have like a two-year waiting list? Like, what do we tell our listeners? How do they get in with you? Or your team. I know you have a team now, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:37

I do. Yeah, I have me. I have, like I said, three other surgeons currently. We have four more coming. We have a phenomenal team. Our whole goal at the PLASIS clinic has to try to become like we all give the same experience, right? And our results, we try to give the top-notch results as well. My partners, they make amazing belly buns, they do great work. You know, we've all I've trained them all in the preservate technique, so they do that. We're very similar in how we think. Um, I'm more than happy to see you. If it's for breast augmentation surgery, I can get you in sooner than two years. The wait for mommy's makeover is like six years right now, actually. So, but for breast stuff.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

Six years?

SPEAKER_02 50:09

Yeah. I don't want to say six, seven, but yeah, it's about six years.

SPEAKER_01 50:12

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Yeah, but my partners, they all do like we literally like do so many mommy makeovers, is what we do, right? So you can come see my partners. If it's breasts only, um, those are a lot shorter surgeries, like an hour. So I can get those patients in a lot quicker. So you can DM me on Instagram or you can contact my office and um happy to give you information on me or my partners. But no, I appreciate Brie for having me on. Um, you're just you're phenomenal. I think what you do is amazing, and I love you know just everything about you. And I've always just loved following all your stuff. So thank you again for having me on.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

Oh, thank you, Dr. Chitty. I appreciate that. I want everybody to know how to follow you and what. So your clinic is called The Plastics. If they want to follow you, what's your handle?

SPEAKER_02 50:54

Yeah, so our handle for Instagram is the plastics clinic. And then mine's just Dr. Chitty, C-H-I-D-D-Y. That's on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, um, and I guess Facebook. I don't know. I don't use Facebook as much, but yeah, no, I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

Uh yeah, you need to follow Dr. Chitty. He's hilarious. And I love your okay. There was one reel that you just did, and I was dying. It was so funny. She walked out of the room and she had her, like, she didn't have anything on, you guys. She was topless and she had her little pasty things on, but she was so confident walking down, and your nurse was chasing her with a gown, and she's like, No, I'm good. I don't need it. That was genius. That was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

You know, it's that's actually a true story. So, like that, that obviously was staged, and we protected the hall. We literally had all of our staff, because we actually, first off, there's no one in clinic that day. It was like on a Friday or something or whatever. And so we had the staff that'll block the hall on both sides so nobody could come. But that patient, you know, she had um, we had taken her photos in the photo room and she just started walking out. We're like, yo, yo, you gotta put your gown on. She's like, I don't care. I don't care. I'm like, well, yeah, but there's like other people out there. She's like, no, I really don't. She's like, I'm so happy, you know. And so I was like, well, let's do a TikTok. So obviously we had to stage it. But um, no, she literally did, and we hear that all the time. I mean, women come out, they're like, hey, we gotta go take photos of you in the photo room. And they'll just walk out and they have their robe on, but they just have it open, you know. I'm like, hey, you gotta cover up. Excited. Yeah, no, they're so happy. And we're not trying to like, you know, make that into a thing, but really it's the confidence, right? You mentioned it's the confidence, and that's just the coolest part of our jobs, I think.

Closing And Listener Resources

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Yeah. If you don't follow Dr. Chitty, go follow him. I love the information you give. I love, I can tell that you genuinely care about women. You care about the long term of how they're gonna feel. You're very technology driven and forward in research and science, and you educate us, and I really appreciate that. So thank you for being a wealth of knowledge. Go follow him, share the episode. If you have any follow-up questions, you can always comment below or DM Dr. Chitty directly. Okay. Thank you, Dr. Chitty. Have such a great day. You too.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

Thank you. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 53:07

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