On this episode of Try Saying That Out Loud Jamie and Lo join literally everyone else in the world in talking about the only pop-culture moment the matters: the return of Bennifer (0:06) and then take a listener question & Try ...

On this episode of Try Saying That Out Loud Jamie and Lo briefly talk about Instagram filters before transitioning into the heavy shit: the Derek Chauvin trial and the killing of Ma’khia Bryant (0:03). They also chat for a bit about th...

On this episode, Jamie and Lo talk about life after COVID and the joys of the grocery store. Then they address the Khloe Kardashian photo editing fiasco (0:09) and problematic Rachel fucking Hollis (0:24). Then, Jamie fills in some of the gaps ...

On this episode of Try Saying That Out Loud, Jamie & Lo have one final debrief of Matt James’ season of The Bachelor and discuss how not excited they are for Katie’s season of The Bachelorette.Then, the ton...

On this episode of Try Saying That Out Loud, Jamie and Lo white girl “cannot” with the royal haters OR the producers of the Bachelor that so blatantly exploited Matt James for their own benefit (00:16).Then, the conversation tak...

On this episode of Try Saying That Out Loud, Jamie and Lo unpack Bachelor contestant Rachel Kirkconnell’s Instagram apology & talk about performative allyship, especially for those in the public eye. Then Jamie gets vulnerable abou...

On this episode, Jamie and Lo laugh about how one day Gen Z will get it and also about Lo’s most horrifying hair fail (00:02:37). She trusts those of you that let her do that slightly less than before and you know who you are. Then,...

On this episode, Jamie and Lo totally fuck up the introduction for the first—but definitely not the last—time and lament about what must be their incredible self-awareness because even though there are twice as many of them, Try Saying T...

In this episode, Jamie and Lo reflect on January 6, 2021 and what will be forever remembered as one of the more horrifying moments in United States history. The realities of America are harsh and there is so much work left to be done.The...

On this episode, Jamie and Lo talk about Jamie's parenting journey...with sourdough starter, how Lo is relaxing these days, and very briefly about Mormon Mommy Bloggers because it is too terrifying to talk about at length (see

Drink when we say COVID (or CNN). In this episode, Jamie & Lo talk way too much about corona & pretend they know all the things about vaccinations. Lo laments about love in the time of COVID. She shares what she has learned ...

In this episode, Jamie and Lo recount their reactions to the outcome of the contentious 2020 Presidential election and reflect on their emotions surrounding the current state of the U.S. Lo discusses what it feels like to move mid-Pandemic and ...

We were SO thrilled to sit down with Carter Sickels, the author of one of our favorite novels this year, The Prettiest Star.  Carter is as thoughtful in person as you would imagine and we so enjoyed the few minutes we got to chat ...

In Episode 002 we discuss climate change and the fires in California, the frustrating ruling in Breonna Taylor’s case from a legal perspective, when to expect a human software upgrade (thank you, Gwyenth Paltrow), the crazy shit the planets are...

Jamie and Lo talk in-depth about quarantine brain and “collective trauma”, how a recent book they both read lead them to uncover even more white privilege, all served up with sides of astrology, enneagram, Indian Matchmaking, an...

What can we say, we love a teaser. Stay tuned for the first episode out September 3, 2020... until then: learn the story behind the name and what you can expect from our chats moving forward.