What If Your Body Is The Real Expert with Dawne Schoep

Your blood pressure number can feel like a verdict, but it can also be a doorway. We sit down with Dawne Schoep, a board certified health coach, self-care mentor, and personal trainer, and we let a real coaching session unfold on the mic. The surprising shift is how quickly “tell me what to do” turns into “help me hear what I already know”, especially when stress, sleep, sugar, coffee, and a packed schedule keep pulling us out of our bodies.

We walk through a grounding practice you can replay anytime to calm the nervous system and get clear on what your body is communicating. From there, we connect the dots between inflammation signals, lifestyle medicine, and the everyday choices that actually move the needle for high blood pressure support: a flexible morning affirmation, simple food prep that fits parenting logistics, and exercise that feels energizing instead of punishing. We also talk about why a one-size-fits-all plan often backfires, how to ask better questions than “what’s the best diet”, and how to work with medical advice without giving up your agency.

One of the most important takeaways is nervous system regulation. If stillness or meditation ramps you up, you are not failing, your body may be in fight or flight. Dawne explains why you cannot “think” your way into calm and offers practical tools like shaking, walking, breath, and gentle transitions that help your system feel safe enough to slow down.

If you want habits that stick, a more intuitive approach to stress management, and a healthier relationship with your own inner guidance, press play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a reset, and leave a review with the biggest question you’re going to ask your body tomorrow.

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Dawne Schoep 0:00

Like how you just said that in the context of thinking about your daily list. Yeah. I love thinking about your list as questions. Not like these three steps that we just came up with. Not like read my affirmation, prep my food. But like one, how do I want to put my affirmation inside of me? Right. Dancing it in, singing it, writing it, painting it, whatever you want. How do I want to get my food prep in today? Because today it might be different than yesterday or tomorrow. Because today's schedule is different. Today's energy is different. And then what exactly what you just said? How am I going to get my run in today? Be creative and have fun.

Osha Rose 0:42

How am I going to get my run in today? Ooh, that's a that's something that I haven't until I'm saying it out loud to you. Um I got that from you.

Dawne Schoep 0:53

You said it. And that like that's how that's how I work. Like when you come on to the call with me, I am trained. I have so much training and so many resources. But the most important thing for me to remember every day, no matter how much I know about health, no matter how much I know about food and exercise and mindset and

Turn Your To Do List Inward

Dawne Schoep 1:14

stress relief. In this space, I'm not the expert on your body or your life or your health. You are. And that's the most important thing for me. It's what guides the whole session every time.

Osha Rose 1:30

And it can feel overwhelming. Like what you just said can feel a little overwhelming. It's like, I think that's why we sometimes want to want to work with you, so you tell me what to do, but now you're telling me I'm going to tell me what to do. And so it's like, but how do I know? And you know, you go to the doctor and you want them to tell you what to do. And they don't know either. They're going to tell you based on their past experience with the results they've seen, based on the what you're coming to them with. You know, there's intuition involved too, but we are the experts of ourselves. And even if it feels overwhelming to think that I'm going to make all these decisions, that's what I'm doing. I'm always making decisions, whether it's to do exactly what you say or not. So just owning that and and being supported by that information, I think is the shift. Is this hi everyone? And welcome to the Superbloom podcast, where we explore how to wake up, rewire our thoughts, calm the nervous system, and truly thrive. Today I am joined by Don Scoop, a board certified health coach, self-care mentor, and personal trainer. And Dawn helps people feel better in their bodies, helps them release stress, and to create habits that stick. Dawn, welcome to Superbloom. I'm so excited to have you here.

Dawne Schoep 2:49

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Osha Rose 2:51

Yes. And so the I love this quote we we had talked about where the work you do essentially it's helping, is it women? Do you mostly work with women? Mostly women, yeah. To understand this magic that can happen when we learn how to communicate with our bodies. Yes. And so I was thinking maybe we could just start with how you might start um a session with one of your one of your coaching clients. Yeah. That's something we could do together. Yeah, absolutely.

Dawne Schoep 3:25

Um usually someone comes to a coach, there's some sort of

Meet Your Coach And The Method

Dawne Schoep 3:30

pain or problem or health condition that they're coming with. Um and so we just start with like, why are you here? And once they share that, I kind of um invite them into a grounding session because we if we come into a session and just speak from our mind, we might give really intellectual answers to what's happening in our body. And so if we do a grounding moment first, I help people come down into their center. People call it different things, their center, their wise self, their true self. Um, and sometimes for clients, that's the first time doing that. Sometimes they've done it hundreds of times. But I like to go into a session where people are responding and having this conversation with themselves, basically. I'm facilitating the conversation, but I look at it as a conversation with their own self.

Osha Rose 4:24

Yes, communicating with their bodies. So could we just do it? Because I'm love to. I'm okay. Yeah. All right. Hello. I'm so happy to be here.

Dawne Schoep 4:36

What brings you here?

Osha Rose 4:39

So I do want to work with you because I have been um going through some high blood pressure. And I think it's been probably been a year, but over the past two weeks, I actually started measuring it and realizing how high it was or is. It's getting better with self-care practices, you know, with making exercise and meditation and, you know, just noticing what I'm eating. Those all these things are helping me reduce it. I've been measuring it. Um, but today I'm here with you to learn what

High Blood Pressure And Consistency

Osha Rose 5:16

is actually working and what maybe isn't, and identify how, you know, what I what I can be doing consistently, because sometimes consistency is something that is a little hard for me. I just have all my brain is always going and shooting in all these directions, like, oh, that worked. Let me remember what that was that worked. And I don't know. So so understanding maybe because I haven't stopped to think about what's what I've been doing to to work on this. And and so yeah, so I'm here because I have high blood pressure.

Dawne Schoep 5:50

That that is a great reason to be here. Um, it sounds like it's been really helpful for you to measure it and notice what's happening alongside of it being higher or lower. Yeah. I also heard you say that you think it's probably been happening for a year or a year and a half.

Osha Rose 6:11

Yeah.

Dawne Schoep 6:12

If you had to guess what tells you that, I think that's the place we want to explore. Because it sounds like maybe your body was telling you something that makes you know that it was happening for a year or a year and a half, even without measuring it. Um, so I'm wondering if you would like to do just a short grounding exercise to really get into your body and less in your head. We sort of live in our head. Yeah, I just started doing like numbers and yeah, and yeah, let's get out of my head.

Osha Rose 6:48

I would love that.

Dawne Schoep 6:49

All right, so I invite you to close your eyes, get comfortable in your seat, and just notice the places where your body touches the chair. Notice your feet on the ground.

Osha Rose 7:08

And feel the air on your skin. Feel the breath coming out of your nose.

Dawne Schoep 7:20

And then imagine a circular white light sitting at the top of your head, right at your crown. Invite you to watch it as it slowly goes down right through the middle of you, all the way down the center of your body. Down to your pelvis, down to both legs, all the way to the floor. Notice that white light right at your feet. And then

A Grounding Practice You Can Copy

Dawne Schoep 8:02

take a big breath in through your nose and out through your mouth. And then watch as this light slowly makes its way to the back of your legs. All the way up through the center of your body.

Osha Rose 8:27

Through your neck, your head, all the way back to your ground. And then take another deep breath in through your nose. Uh through your mouth.

Dawne Schoep 8:47

One more time as this light makes its way from the top of your head slowly down through your body.

Osha Rose 9:30

Set them down.

Dawne Schoep 9:34

Just pick one foot up completely off the floor. Set it down. Set it down. Tap the top of your thighs with both hands.

Osha Rose 9:55

Use both hands to tap your belly. Use both hands that tap your chest. Top of your shoulders. And the top of your head.

Dawne Schoep 10:19

Take a deep breath in through your nose, out through your mouth, and release your arms down to your side, and then just kind of shake your arms. And then in your own time, let your eyes flatter open and come back to the room.

Osha Rose 10:47

And then just feel your body.

Dawne Schoep 10:56

Good. Good. This is a nice way to get out of your thinking mind and into your body. So if we revisit that question, if you were to think back or just ask your body, even why do you have a sense that this has been going on for a year and a year and a half, even without the measurements?

Osha Rose 11:23

Yeah, I felt inflammation coming into my body since I stopped nursing my child back in November of 2023. I just noticed it at my feet, you know, with like the like boots I was wearing were causing like these red marks. And I thought it was my boots and bacteria, and it wasn't. And then I was letting my diet and exercise and just alcohol consumption, coffee consumption be uncontrolled, like just kind of letting it be whatever until um I started to notice like that spring. But the the symptoms of inflammation really became prevalent around this time last year when the gums in my mouth swelled up. But I again thought it was something topographical in my teeth. So I started going to see the dentist and because I hadn't gone in a while. Um, but they said my gums, everything was fine. And then again, the holiday cycle came where I was um eating lots of sugar and just didn't feel like there was time for for my exercise. It just always felt like there was something to do. Um, and the weather, I don't know. I just I just remember feeling like I wasn't

Inflammation Signals From Gums And Feet

Osha Rose 12:37

caring for myself. I did this um course um and I was sitting in bed for hours just working on the course, but it was all in my head, like there wasn't, it wasn't a physical lesson. Um and so the swelling would come and go with how much sugar I ate. So I thought it was 100% related to my diet. Um, but I didn't really think about it as inflammation until I started thinking about, you know, what's really going on and noticing that turmeric and ginger and garlic and exercise and meditation were all affecting the how much swelling was in my gums. Um they still swell, but they don't, it feels now that I'm aware of it as inflammation, or that's what I understand it to be in intuitively, it doesn't feel the same. Like I used to not be able to bite my nail because my gums would be so swollen back here. Yeah. That was kind of like my gauge of like, am I is it improving or not? And now I can do that. So I kind of feel like it's a lot better now that I've become aware of it, um, exercising more. But when I started not sleeping as much again, um, again was working on another course, letting myself just stay awake till the sun came up and then take a nap and you know, think that that was a good idea at the time. Like, like this desire to push. Like I just feel like that's been like a common theme this past year, which I think kind of goes in alignment with the energy of inflammation. It's just this kind of like the body is begging me to to slow down and cool down. Um so yeah, oh, I just feel so grounded just sharing all of that. I feel more aware of what's been happening. So fast forward to this August, where I decided to have my pulse read by an Ayurvedic practitioner, started taking these um herbs that I got prescribed, but I didn't follow her, what she recommended exactly. Um, and I I intuitively just realized the other day this trefala capsule that I was taking, I just I knew when I touched it, I'm like, this has been what's caused this kind of exacerbation of the fire. Um, because they're in capsules. What she had said was get the powder and make a decoction and do that just for a week. And that was going to help with the inflammation like on the surface. But I kept doing it. I was like, maybe this is the thing that whatever. I just knew it didn't feel right, but I kept doing it. Um, unthinking, like I would just put the capsules in my mouth. Um but now that I've drank coffee that day, and happened to be the same day I went to the doctor, happened to be the same day I got my blood pressure measured for the first time, I decided to just stop those herbs completely and focus on this food-based vitamin and minerals. And today before this call was the first time I my blood pressure was down. It was like 120 over um 99, which I hadn't gone that low with the the cyst the top number, the systolic number. And the the the diabolic one is still um a little high, but I just I feel good about that. I sat for five minutes of meditation and then did the measurement, and it just reminded me how much I can help myself with more of um the things I've been doing, like my diet. And but I'm just kind of free. I'm just I'm going with what feels right and doing the best I can to have knowledge come back to me that's inside of me. But I I just would love to hear what you what your thoughts are.

Dawne Schoep 16:27

Um yeah, absolutely, yeah. I'm hearing that you are already listening to the communication in your body from the way that you have noticed over time um the transition from breastfeeding to not breastfeeding. You felt a difference. Your feet, you notice things in your feet, you notice things in your gums. Um, so you've learned to listen to um what your body's communicating to you through those things. And it's different for everybody. Some people, it's every it's your body using your gums, your feet to talk to you and let you know what's going on inside. And you did already notice in going to the area practitioner, the gums are just a piece of it, right? It's the topical pieces, it doesn't mean that this is the only place that there's inflammation. Um, but you already have such a great start in listening to your body, even with the capsules. You listen to the energy that you felt being communicated from your body about those capsules, and you followed your intuition, and you are getting support in so many ways. Your doctor, holistic health, um, your own to be encouraged, yeah. So you already have so many good things going for you. Yeah, yeah, and then I hear on top of that, how hard it is to kind of manage that stuff on your own because it is a lot, like you said, exercise, meditation, diet, all of it. Um, and you're a businesswoman, you're a mother, it's a lot on a daily basis to be doing all those things, you know, and then in taking courses and trying to do the right thing. Um that's a lot. And sometimes we can take a course and we get so much knowledge, and then we'll go on that road and kind of forget to like pick the pieces from that that really resonate with our body and listen to the communication we're getting our body from that.

Osha Rose 18:42

Yeah. And these little courses I was creating. So I was sitting in bed creating the the course that first um winter season, and then this past um summer, I was doing it again where I was, but I was doing in a different way. I was up and I was at my desk, but I was just working basically and getting out of the rhythm. Yeah, I know. And it's like you were taking, thank you for reading. Well, probably not everyone says they were creating courses, but yeah, yes, which I felt so good about and inspired to do. And I think that's the challenge for me right now is I'm I'm inspired. Like I know where I'm going, I know what I want to create, I know what I want to do. But I just had a human design reading yesterday, and it reminded me that um, so we have these energy centers, but in our root, minds defined, and there's just I feel this pressure, I guess, is what she helped me like put to words to create and to do these things. But what I'm finding with my health not in alignment with, you know, it's like I want to do do do, but if my body doesn't feel good, it doesn't, I don't wanna like I don't have the same like light and spark. Like I have the the the list of things I know I want to do now because I've been get all these downloads, I get inspired and I make these lists. But like, what did she say to me? It was not every idea needs to be brought to fruition and not every question needs to be answered. And so for me, it was this like reminder that the inspiration can be one thing, but it's how do I feel in my body when I'm doing the next thing? You know, like this feels so aligned and so centered to be being guided into meditation by you and talking about what's going on in my body instead of pretending that I'm fine or nothing's going on. Um but yeah, like getting like what are the things that I've said I'm doing that sound like something you that's part of what you do for work and how you help and and please share everything you're thinking because even though I've gone through the personal trainer and I I do group exercise and I have taught yoga meditation for over a decade, it's like we're I'm constantly remembering, you know, and people like you come on my path to remind me and maybe teach me something new. Yeah, yeah. I'm open to whatever.

Dawne Schoep 21:18

What'd you say? I said I love your curiosity. That's how it makes us keep growing in healing. Um, before I jump there, I want to I just something that you just said about receiving downloads and being inspired. A question that you might ask yourself is do I trust that if I get this download on paper in computer and then still honor by body's need to go to sleep, do I trust that that is gonna continue to flow through me and that it doesn't all have to come out right now?

Osha Rose 21:54

No, this is this is um the question, right? I do I trust. Trust in divine timing is what what what helps me. Um, but what you're saying is actually gonna help me in those literal moments where I'm holding on, like I'm gripping on to this like, nope, I gotta do this thing before I go to bed. Cause like you said, I won't forget, I'll forget, and I won't remember. So the answer is yes. The answer is yes. I believe and I trust that as these downloads and downloads and creative ideas come through me, that once I put it down on paper, that it will come to fruition if and when, you know, it is in divine timing. Yes. And then I just want to remember and celebrate, like in gratitude, like I am inspired. Like I had a huge chunk of my life where I just felt like everything was already figured out. Like I was

Trusting Creativity Without Burning Out

Osha Rose 22:47

married and I could just see where we were gonna end up living, what we were gonna do with our lives. I just I couldn't see beyond um what I was in in that moment, and it felt depressing. Like I just I wasn't inspired, I was the opposite. So I would just want to celebrate that I am inspired, I do feel creative. I there's joy in my life. I'm doing things that, you know, are are considered hard to a lot of people, but I they're challenging, you know, it's challenging to be a mom and doing it mostly on your own. And yeah, um, I mean, for me, it's all on my own, but I just think some people are in relationship, but they're the the main caregiver. Um you know, but but then still find time and see the importance of making time to create space to heal and to celebrate, you know, and those two things are are my new goals. So I feel like this is this is why we're talking.

Dawne Schoep 23:44

How do you feel about you just said like so many beautiful pearls of wisdom? How would you feel about taking what you said? Yes, I trust in downloads, I trust in divine timing, and then all the other pieces about honoring what your body needs and just making that like an affirmation that you can come to in those times when you are drawn to that like push, do, grasping onto it. Um, you notice that you can just read your own wisdom, say your own wisdom out loud.

Osha Rose 24:23

Yes, I trust in divine timing, and I also feel like um my health and celebration are my priorities. I just felt like a well of like emotion come through my chest when I wrote that. That's amazing. It's like emotion coming through me right now. It's I think the desire to keep going and move is it's definitely rooted in self-worth and value and like the sense of identity. Like I'm I'm not a corporate marketing person anymore. I used to introduce myself clearly, people would be like, What do you do? Do corporate marketing and do corporate events. Ooh, and a lot of people haven't ever done that. So, ooh, and it just sounds so cool to people. But now it's like I wasn't loving that work. I wouldn't even feel any of the level of inspiration I feel now. But it's like somehow thinking I'm not doing as much or as valuable now that I don't say and can't say I'm part of this thing. But to stop and celebrate that, you know, my daughter and I had so many belly laughs yesterday together, or my blood pressure is down because I chose to eat, like to prepare food a little bit earlier in the day so I could eat a really healthy dinner. Because I find that that's like what happens is I transition to the night and I'm like, all of a sudden it's nighttime. And I'm like, okay, what's the easiest thing I can cook right now? And it's not usually an hour of roasting a butternut squash, you know. So like celebrate that, like the food prep and the connection where I was actually looking at my daughter and hugging her and being with her in that moment instead of you know, my brain just being somewhere else, even though I was physically there. And those are those are what matter. That is what matters the most is my health and celebration. And so, yeah, thank you.

Dawne Schoep 26:31

Thank you for those it's really important to you that you have created a career for yourself that so that can support your health and your motherhood and your time with your daughter and the things that are really important to you. Yeah. And that's a celebration in itself for you. And it's understandable to live in our society where you know, anything that has like a corporate title, it's very recognizable to people. So if you you say two words, a lot of people have an idea of what you do, and like, oh yay, that's awesome. When you're sometimes doing a very heart-led, very individual business that is about you expressing yourself and your connection with spirit and the divine, that's not as easily expressed when some when you introduce yourself or when you want to share what you do with people. And sometimes that when you don't get that recognition of like, oh yeah, I know what that is. That's awesome. It might it sounds like it might be affecting your feeling of the value. Yeah. Um try that on and see.

Osha Rose 27:57

Yeah, there is value in my work, there was value in my days.

Dawne Schoep 28:03

And would you say that it's so I I I sort of repeated what you said about the value of it to you and your health and your daughter and your relationship with your daughter. Do you believe that there's value to anyone else or to the greater good?

Osha Rose 28:21

Yes, I think there's value in all of us balancing our work with our, you know, our our moving, our producing, our moving forwardness energy with sitting and being with what is and looking around and and being present with with all that we have, you know, all that we're surrounded by. Like gratitude, when I think of celebration is a big part of that. Like when I can stop and be in gratitude, then I might, you know, then I might start to be like, hey, and by the way, like I'm grateful for yeah, for all you've created and what um what you filled your day with today, and and learning how to value what I'm the work I'm doing and and the way um, you know, I I I am a valuable part of the whole. Like I do. I feel like that's a big part of um the value in just supporting myself is like then I can truly show up in my day and be present and compassionate and connected to the people that I'm interacting with. Um, then you have a ripple. There's a known ripple effect that your your electromagnetic field around your your heart um will affect other people. So if I'm showing up in gratitude and in like this confidence that the choices I'm making are wise ones, the the way I'm carrying myself and my my heart is full. People will feel that.

Dawne Schoep 29:57

Yeah. Do you also think that you sort of charting this maybe more difficult way of being in business with the world uh benefits your community and the people you serve?

Osha Rose 30:14

Yes. Yes. I think when we when we, or at least for me, I can feel that when I'm aligned in my day, when I'm making decisions that feel good in my body, that feel like I yes, um, I notice and I'm smiling and I'm happy and I'm dancing and I'm singing and you know, it's just I notice the rip ball. I just I feel I feel more connected. Um, even if I don't feel like I'm like there's days where I wonder if I'm staying connected with the people like in my immediate circle enough, like texting and calling and just staying connected with friends and family. But in those moments where I'm not questioning it and I'm just kind of showing up, the I'll cross paths with the people on the, you know, the grocery store or on the street, and I'll get the calls and the texts that I'll somehow magically have time to really give a thoughtful reply to, instead of them like stacking for later. But yeah, I do. I feel like the connections are there, it just feels like the synchronicities occur, and I just I feel a deeper connection to the people um around me. And I I think that that effect would be, you know, what just comes back. Like it's just this beautiful kind of cycle we create where we give and get love. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if that's what you were asking, but that's that's what I felt called to say.

Dawne Schoep 31:42

It really is because the more we stay in that space, the more we can trust, and the more we can just keep becoming and living as our true selves throughout the day. And that's like a nice space to be in when we kind of revisit what you were asking before about more of the practical pieces of like the blood pressure. Um the why.

Osha Rose 32:09

This is the why, yes.

Dawne Schoep 32:11

Yeah, it's kind of it's your it's your why. That's the space you want to stay in and be in. And you have noticed when you are in that space, you even see it in the practical readings of your blood pressure. So, your question about working with me and how I would do that. So, I have lots of resources, lots of things that I can introduce as we go, but I like you to lead your own healing, your own program, if you will. And I would start with keeping in mind how nuanced it can become if we're like exercise, food, and we're just thinking of it in that way. Like in those categories, what do you think is like the thing you need to do first, like the most important thing you need to do first?

Osha Rose 33:05

Well, I think we just did that, was like create some daily affirmation. So as soon as I wake up, I'm just I'm reminding myself that I trust in the divine timing. Like I just I trust. And then it kind of will set me in motion in a way that isn't like I'm late, or what time is it? Or, you know, just trust that

Three Tiny Steps That Build Momentum

Osha Rose 33:25

everything is gonna come together today. Um, so yeah, getting my mindset in a in an open to receive and just be like instead of clenched and contracted, like in an open, flowy space. But then I I truly believe diet and finding ways to to get creative in in the fruits and vegetables that I'm eating, those my body wants the most. I'm still finding the grains that don't feel so heavy in my body. Um like faro. Anyway, there's just there's certain grains that I like, and I'm learning that it's okay that I don't like basmati rice, and my daughter does, um, because that's really quick to cook, like, but that's the long green, like brown rice that I like. So it's important that I prep that. Um anyway, so yeah, I think the diet is the next piece, actually at the same point as exercise, because um what might sound counterintuitive when you think of like the blood pumping through your body, I actually do better with vigorous exercise. I figured this out when I used to teach yoga classes and I would like in person, back to back, and I would do sometimes three to five hours of teaching. Um, and I used to run marathons, and it would take me a while to run the marathons. I could just run for five to six hours and 20 plus miles. And not everybody's constitution requires that, but I know mine does. And so, and my daughter too. So I feel like getting my day to have more outdoor or at the Y where we go, like as part of the flow of the day. Um that's really important. But I love what you said, how not just having it be like diet, exercise, like like because that is the way I think too, and it becomes a little more enjoyable when you just think of how do you want to spend your day. Um because you're right, I intuitively know, but it's sometimes the doubts that throw you astray, and yeah, you just kind of get caught up in what you're not doing.

Dawne Schoep 35:39

Yeah.

Osha Rose 35:40

Um, or what we think you're supposed to be doing. Yeah. And as and if I shared what I shared with you about my blood pressure with certain people, I know because they care for me, they might get really concerned about what I said and they might make recommendations for me immediately that don't feel in alignment. And in those moments, I can my body clinches up and feel like I almost need to defend my intuition. Um, but the fact that I connected with a medical doctor finally does relieve that part of my brain. Like that, like I want to make sure I'm still doing the right things. I have a child to care for. Like, I don't, you know, but I I think part of that thinking is still me fully embracing that I will always know what to do. Um, and if this doctor recommends something that I'm not in totally aligned with, I'll just ask, you know, what other options do I have? And that's new for me too. Is like I think that's why I was afraid to go to the doctor last year, is I just didn't feel strong enough to, you know, speak and ask for what I what I know is gonna be what I feel called to do next. So yeah, I'm so grateful that you're asking in this way. I'm just sharing how it feels and reflecting back to you how the work, the way you work is unique and I appreciate it. So yeah, to all that to say diet and exercise.

Dawne Schoep 37:01

I'm so glad that you said that about going to the doctor because it's actually a really important piece. If you weren't working with your doctor on it and like just being monitored by your doctor on it, I would encourage you to do so.

Osha Rose 37:17

Yeah, me too, as a yoga teacher, it's helpful for to have all the people involved.

Dawne Schoep 37:22

Yeah. I also recognize how sometimes like our medical system is sort of built in a way where, like, this is what my doctor said, and this is what I have to do, right? And we and that thing that you said about asking questions, being comfortable asking your doctor questions if you feel like something's not working, is really hard for people because it's sort of an this might be harsh, but it's sort of like an authoritarian system.

Osha Rose 37:46

Wow.

Dawne Schoep 37:46

This is what the doctor says what you have to do. Um, and we definitely need those recommendations, and we need our labs and we need our doctor to be watching something. But we also have agency to make the the to do the lifestyle medicine. Doctors don't have time or sometimes even training to do that. But we also have we are responsible for ourselves, right? Um, and they might even sometimes be like, oh, food and exercise. Great. Now what? You know, so I heard in listening to you, I like people to leave a session with like one to like three at the most sort of next steps. Really small, but it sounded to me like it's really important to you to have that kind of start your day with a mindset, maybe by reading your information affirmation, not information, reading your writing it, saying it out loud, singing it, dancing it, whatever, like really helps it sink into you. Love that idea. And then two being food and three being exercise. And I wonder in listening to you talk about the food, it sounds like it's really helpful for you to kind of prep ahead of time. Yeah. You brought up a really real like challenge, like if you're eating different food for your daughter than your daughter, that can be it's almost like making two meals at the same time, and it's already a challenge to make one, but like thinking of ways that you can prep ahead of time. Um, do you have any ideas of what I know? One day you said you just did it earlier in the day, so that later it was.

Osha Rose 39:34

Yeah, I think just making it part of my routine. Back when I was still working a corporate job at from home, I had a really good routine where I would, you know, cook food for us around 2 or 3 p.m. Um, and that would kind of be that would carry us through the the lunch and dinner. Um and so yeah, I did that the other day and it felt really good. I was like, okay, this is the time of day that I'm ready to do this. Um like the morning tends to be like more computer stuff, but I like to start my day with without the computer. But yeah, fitting it in before we leave the house, I think is the key. And I tend to leave the house around like three between three and five to get us um out for sunset and maybe to the Y, and like just just to make sure we get like a good outdoor experience and some exercise. So that's something I feel like I can kind of stack with that. Like before I go, what time am I leaving the house? And then I can kind of plan what time to cook from there. Yeah. I love this because it is, it's in me already. I love this coaching.

Dawne Schoep 40:39

Yeah, yeah. So that's your that would be your second one to figure out that schedule. Like, where do I prep? Where does it fit in? How does it feel good? Um, and that is your first step on nutrition. And I like to do little tiny steps. I usually would meet with you like either once a week, if you want that in the beginning, or every other week, like every two weeks, where you have time to kind of try out these first steps. And I I want you to make sure you don't get ahead of yourself, like really try these first steps affirmation in the morning, prepping food, and just paying attention to how what feels good about it, if there are any challenges. If you forget, you know, just your job isn't to create perfection in the next week or two, it's to notice how these first, literally first baby steps are working and how they're not, so that we can come back together and just kind of like tweak them if they need. And and then we find figure out if you're ready for the next tiny step or if you just need to like tweak this one first. Um, because we get really ahead of ourselves sometimes.

Osha Rose 41:54

So this is you are so supportive and this is just so wonderful to experience this. Like I can say for people listening, like the way I feel right now is empowered. I feel um confident, like I got this, like I just, I don't know. I just I this approach that you have is wonderful because I think we all have within us this information that when it's encouraged, when it's supported to come through, it's it's there. And then at some point, after working with you, I can feel empowered to continue this. You know, there isn't this dependency. It's like you're you're bolstering me along the way, it's you're supporting me. It's it's not this. Um, I don't know. I just I feel like there can be some relationships or exchanges where the person leading or guiding or coaching um might not be this supportive, you know. So it's it's important to be supported and know that we can, we can um anyway, I'm going on a tangent, but what I wanted to ask too is this part this piece about personal trainer, um, I feel like that's unique. I don't I don't know that every nutritionist or nutritional person you might work with that can help with the diet. And then also these meta, like the the combination of what you offer is very unique to me. Um, do you find that you can do the personal trainer work virtually, or is that something that you mostly do in person? Okay. I mostly do it virtually. Yeah. Oh, wonderful.

Dawne Schoep 43:23

Virtually. Uh that brings you to number three. So your third step would be like, what is your first? And then I'll like kind of explain to you how I would work with you in exercise. But what would be your very first step as far as exercise?

Osha Rose 43:40

I want to get out running again. Um I love running outside. My daughter's not quite there yet. She's almost five, but to run actually, that's not true. We run on the beach together, and it actually feels really good. And it ends up being sprinting, which I have found is the best way for me to. Get that vigorous exercise.

Dawne Schoep 44:03

So it'd be really fun to watch that aha moment.

Osha Rose 44:06

Yes. Creating like because I just pictured myself on the stroll with her thinking that's always tricky to time that. And she doesn't love being stationary, but then she does once she's in it. So that could be like a once-a-week long run where I get to kind of be in motion consistently for an hour. But the aha moment was me picturing what we do a lot of the time on the beach, where she we create a start and a finish line and we just race back and forth. Love it. Um, or I chase her. She loves being chased in all different games. Like I get to be different.

Dawne Schoep 44:40

And I can imagine the joy in hers. Like that just that makes my heart sing to think of you on the beach running with your daughter. Yeah. And you were so creative in that, like

Running With Kids And Making It Fun

Dawne Schoep 44:52

there are some limitations to maybe the way that you've always run before you were a mom. Um, or the way that you think of like what it would mean to run, and you just like instantly got creative and was like, well, wait a second. So I could do the long run once a week in the stroller, and that's probably not too much for her to do that once a week. And oh my gosh, we both love running on the beach, and how wonderful.

Osha Rose 45:13

And it feels good to even celebrate that I kind of do this already, but it's the consistency, and I think for me, it's just putting it on that list every day. Like, like, um, you know, I have, you know, the to-do things for my business, and I I support some other businesses. So, what I want to get done for them or people that I'm working with, like like there's the work lists, but then the food prep, you know, run on the beach, like just make those like look at the weather, see my energy level. Like, what is it that I want to do today, you know, to get exercise?

Dawne Schoep 45:51

I like how you just said that in the context of thinking about your daily list. Yeah. I love thinking about your list as questions, not like these three steps that we just came up with, not like read my affirmation, prep my food.

Osha Rose 46:09

I love your tone because that's how it feels. It's like I don't want to be like every day, but like one, how do I want to put my affirmation inside of me?

Dawne Schoep 46:18

Right? Anything dancing it in, singing it, writing it, painting it, whatever you want. How do I want to get my food prep in today? Because today it might be different than yesterday or tomorrow. Because today's schedule is different, today's energy is different.

Osha Rose 46:34

Might be prepping for tomorrow, tonight. Yeah. Where I'm like doing something while I'm prepping for tomorrow, yeah.

Dawne Schoep 46:39

And then what exactly what you just said? How am I gonna get my run in today?

Osha Rose 46:44

Be creative and have fun. How am I gonna get my run in today? Oh, that's uh that's something that I haven't until I'm saying it out loud to you. Um I got that from you.

Dawne Schoep 46:56

You said it. And that like that's how that's how I work. Like when you come on to the call with me, I am trained, I have so much training and so many resources. But the most important thing for me to remember every day, no matter how much I know about health, no matter how much I know about food and exercise and mindset and stress relief. In this space, I'm not the expert on your body or your life or your health. You are. And that's the most important thing for me. It's what guides the whole session every time.

Osha Rose 47:34

And it can feel overwhelming. Like what you just said can feel a little overwhelming. It's like, I think that's why we sometimes want like I want to work with you, so you tell me what to do. But now you're telling me I'm gonna tell me what to do. And so it's like, but how do I know? And you know, you go to the doctor and you want them to tell you what to do, and they don't know either. They're gonna tell you based on their past experience with the results they've seen, based on the what you're coming to them with. You know, there's intuition involved too, but we are the experts of ourselves. And even if it feels overwhelming to think that I'm gonna make all these decisions, that's what I'm doing. I'm always making decisions, whether it's to do exactly what you say or not. So just owning that and and being supported by that information, I think is the shift is this like trust that in the moment I'll know what to do. I don't have to make big decisions, my blood pressure is going down. There isn't a need to freak out that I still feel these symptoms. Just continue to notice, continue to care for yourself. Um, yeah, these are these are all very important. So in our time today, I want to make sure I just because it I can feel, unless there's more you want to say, I don't want to transition. Just on that note.

Dawne Schoep 48:48

So today you told me already, just in listening to you, you had your first steps. I just kind of helped you organize it and put it into one, two, three. And that's a big part. Like that could happen every time. And like you said, the piece of overwhelm when you have a coach, the biggest job is to like take all this stuff and put it in actionable steps. There might also be days when you come to a session and you're like, I don't, I don't know. And that's where when I said, like, I have a lot of training, I have a lot of resources, then I can provide you with suggestions. But that's what they'll be. They'll be suggestions. And I might give you three. And I the way that I introduce that is like pretend like you're in a department store. Here are three options. You can look at them, you already know which ones you want to take with you to the dressing room. You know which ones you want to try on. Maybe you don't know, but through chatting, we can figure out which one you want to try on first. And that's the way that I look at like the recommendations that I make. So you don't there are days when you might not have the answers and you're not going to be pressured to have the answers. But I will give you options to just gently try on.

Osha Rose 49:58

And then after we work together each week, is there is there a check-in? Is there anything that we do throughout the week in between sessions?

Dawne Schoep 50:07

Yeah. So usually what I have found when if we do weekly calls, a week is usually a pretty good amount of time where there's people don't tend to need a check-in. But I have of I give clients an option when there's a two-week period um to do a check-in right in the middle. Because what most people have found is they're on it, they're conscious of it, they're working on it for the first week, and then they get to the call two weeks later and they're like, it's weird, I was doing a really good job, but somewhere in the middle, I just left my mind and I completely

Coaching As Options Not Orders

Dawne Schoep 50:38

forgot it until I got here. So um there's a choice of either doing an email check-in where I just send you a couple questions and you respond, or like a 15-minute phone call check-in, whatever feels best. Beautiful.

Osha Rose 50:55

So I feel so grateful for this exchange right now. I'm I'm feeling supported and confident, and I have three things, you know, just to kind of start my day asking myself, how do I want to bring these into my day? I know these are parts of my day that are vital to my thriving and flourishing and just being in joy. But what just happened, I can feel, like I can feel that this is work that is like a deep like soul work for you. Like I feel connected to you in a way that maybe I did, maybe I didn't feel with my nurse practitioner, where I can tell intuitively, I can feel it. Um what I'm what I'm getting at is I'm curious how you came into this work and if you can share any story about maybe there was an aha moment you had where you just knew this other work you were doing, or maybe it was like when my child was born, I can kind of I felt this shift in my energy to create. Um, is there is there a story you can share about how you found this path to this this work? And do you feel like it's your soul's calling?

Dawne Schoep 52:05

It's absolutely my soul's calling. It's 1111 as you asked me that question. Um definitely my soul's calling. It is my purpose. Um I start, I kind of always wanted to help people, like it's just in my nature to help people more be more comfortable physically, emotionally, joyfully in their body. Um, and I started just by being that person to the people around me, but I started as a personal trainer mainly because I had a lot of physical chronic pain. I didn't know at the time that it was from stress, but I just had like all this like physical pain. So I had been like a distance runner as a kid all through my 20s, and uh in my early 30s, I became a personal trainer. And that's the first place where I really started saying I need to listen to what my body's asking for. And it was in response to my pain. So, which exercise, which stretch, which self-massage, which what is my body asking for? And that's how I worked as a personal trainer. Like I worked with a lot of people with chronic

From Chronic Pain To Soul Calling

Dawne Schoep 53:16

pain. I was working with chiropractors, and I got so much more joy working with people when I spoke to them in that way and approached it in that way, just then like, okay, where's the pain? Here's what we're gonna do, and giving them a pro here's what you need to do. Bye. It just was it felt so right to like lead people in that way. Like, what is your body telling you? What is your body asking for? What is your body saying now that you responded? Um, and then I did at some point recognize how much it was about stress and really started working on stress in my own life, and then brought that into my personal training. And somewhere along there, I changed like my diet and everything. So then I became a health coach and really learned more of like the mindset and connection, like how important that is, and each person's agency, how important that is. So, in everything that I do, um, exercise, food, just like practical time management stuff, everything that you do as a coach, I approach it from that angle. What is your body asking for? And then that sort of creates the plan, you know? So now you responded to your body with this action or this thought. How does that feel? How is your body responding to your response? And then that's like the way that you move along in your health journey, but like really listening to your own body. So, how did you discover it was stress?

Osha Rose 54:57

Did you did you notice that there was a feeling? Yeah.

Dawne Schoep 55:00

I was in a wellness group with like some other practitioners and the naturopathic doctor in our group, I learned so much from her, asked me once, like, what do you do? I don't even remember what the context, but what do you do to relax? And I hadn't I had no answer. And she's like, What does your body feel like when you're relaxed? And I was like, I don't know. As soon as I like I was moving so fast. I don't know. As soon as I like stop moving, I just fall asleep. I had no idea. That began my journey of stress and how it was sort of leading my life. It was like this speeding train, and I was just holding on for dear life. Um I started noticing that a lot in clients too, in the personal training realm because I would have some people that would like follow like a really healthy diet. They would show up for all their sessions, they would exercise outside their sessions, and nothing would change for them. Pain wouldn't change, weight wouldn't change, the way that they felt about themselves wouldn't change. And I knew that that was stress, but I didn't quite understand it. And that sort of that was probably around 12 years ago,

Stress And The Tyranny Of Shoulds

Dawne Schoep 56:11

and that that's been, I think that's usually a place that I start people with if they're if stress is really leading their lives. Yeah.

Osha Rose 56:22

Yeah. And I think stress for me comes from it's like rooted in this doubt, right? Everything we're talking about, like connecting in with and trusting that my body is communicating with me, that my heart knows what is best for me. Like getting to that place, I think is is what helps me feel less stress. Like there's more confidence in my decisions, there's more direction in my my energy. Like I just there, I you know, I think stress can come from too when we're telling ourselves that we need to be doing a certain thing, or this person, you know, there's expectations that we are not living up to. And I mean, imagine you find that, yeah.

Dawne Schoep 57:06

Yeah, it's it's kind of the basis of everything that we're talking about. Thank you for saying that. It is there's a lot of shoulds. I mean, people come to me all the time. What's the best exercise to do for this?

Osha Rose 57:16

Yeah. Well, yeah, I don't know. I was gonna ask you that.

Dawne Schoep 57:19

It's different for everyone, right? Like it's really different. Everybody's body has a different story, so it's different for everyone. What's the best food to eat? What's the best diet to follow? I don't know. You know, I but in tuning in with your body, we can figure that out together. And I'm glad you talked about that. Like, I'm not doing these things and tuning into that intuition. So when we ask our body, what's the next step? What do you need? We do feel more energized and more inspired to do those things because, like, our body is open, like, yes, give me that, give me that. This is the way I describe it. Yes. But if we have this list or these expectations, or okay, I have high blood pressure. This is the these are the things that I'm supposed to do. It it makes us shrink a little bit. Just it, I don't know. It's yeah, it's like, how am I gonna fit that in?

Osha Rose 58:11

What is what is this diet?

Dawne Schoep 58:13

What is the, you know, am I doing it right? Am I doing it well enough? Am I it becomes this like will this even help me? This external thing.

Osha Rose 58:22

Yeah.

Dawne Schoep 58:22

Honestly, we could even take, if you had a list from your doctor, we could even take that and turn it into something that's coming from inside of you. So it's not that we ignore that, it's not that some of those things are bad, but we need to approach the steps that we need to take from the inside of us and not externally.

Osha Rose 58:47

And that's when we're when we're leaving this, this um, I call it intuitive or soul led, but there's this wiser self that will know this feels right, like a dash diet feels right, like the Mediterranean. And that was, I got a breadcrumb when I went to the dentist because the the oral surgeon that checked everything was Greek and he had an accent. And I said, you know, oh, he said, Oh, yeah, I'm going to Greek. I said, How often do you go back? And he said he was going. And I just thought to ask about food. And I I just I remember asking, he's like, Well, you know, our diets are very and he just explained to me, I think, everything that I love to eat. Um, just lots of fruits and vegetables and you know, the the olive oils and the seafood and the fit. I was like, This is what I love. And it just kind of like the breadcrumb was there. Um, but I felt something, you know, it's like you feel something when someone says something that, you know, intuitively is is in alignment. But I think the trick, and this might be something where the physical part comes in, is associating sometimes. It can feel constriction. You can feel constriction when you get a list of things to do and integrate that don't necessarily you can't see how you can do all this. So I feel like yeah, that to me is the heart of the work you're doing is helping people navigate what is being presented to them in their lives so that they can embody and create new practices, new lifestyles, you know, just to shift things in their life so that it feels better in their body. Yeah.

Dawne Schoep 1:00:30

Yes, absolutely.

Osha Rose 1:00:33

Oh, so do you love your job?

Dawne Schoep 1:00:35

Like, do you love this work? Speaking of just feeling energized and like pulling into your heart when I meet with someone, that's that's how I feel. It I get excited to do my work every day because I I'm what I I feel like the most important thing that I do is help people connect to themselves. I can't think of anything better to do. Especially because I know how many speaking of external things, how many things out in our world are disconnecting us from ourselves?

Osha Rose 1:01:09

So many things in our external world are disconnecting us from ourselves. Like I just want to be with what you just said because I feel that kind of wrapping it up, but you know, today was a hands-on episode where I was able to work directly with Don Scoop today as a self-care coach. And what's important to remember is what you just said, you know, there's our days are full. There's energy, you know, our energy is being kind of pulled and could be pulled in so many different directions if we let it. But if we can set the intention each day of where we want our energy to go, you know, to this affirmation, to this food, to this exercise, to this connection to my child, it will happen. I see it happen day after day on the days when I, you know, want more for myself and health is the most important part of that creation of my day. Because I feel like when I make my list and I I think about how I want the day to flow, I'm I'm creating it. Um we can do that with, you know, some coaching and with some loving guidance. Like your approach is so loving. And I love that there's the peace about the body though, because I too being so physical, I see the shift in my energy. Even when I just shake my body or do a few yoga poses or um go for a nice like 10-minute walk, like I'm a different person than I was 10 minutes before. Yeah. And sitting on a cushion to meditate is still a challenge for me. I'm I can consistently do five minutes. Like that is something I and so I have to just love and respect that that's something I'll continuously, you know, be building. But to celebrate that, you know, that I got on my cushion today for five minutes, that I I did it last night with my daughter, you know, and and just celebrating what is, but that intention of being in the body, moving the energy, knowing that the seated stuff can be, you know, something I'm working towards, but celebrate what comes easily and feel that shift. Um, oh, but my point was the fact that you can offer, like we could meet again, and I could share with you that I feel stress and tension in my neck and shoulders or my low back, and that it comes and goes with what I think is the inflammation. Um, you know, then there's this awareness of okay, what do you want to do to exercise and what do you want to do to actually, you know, calm the body?

Dawne Schoep 1:03:42

Um that's huge. And that would be like your step by step. So you would notice what it feels like. Your first step was to get your run and how do I get my run in? And then we just keep like, how does that feel? How does that feel? And the next thing presents itself. And I'm glad you mentioned getting on the mat, um, to sit still and meditate. One of the things that I had to go through this myself. Um, but one of the things that's so important is part of your body is your nervous system, and that's why we're meditating, it's why we're doing yoga poses. But if you can even in that moment ask your body what it needs, I have a have had, it's easier now, but have had a terrible time. Like sometimes just trying to sit still and breathe slowly would actually trigger my nervous system more. And then I got to understand, well, I didn't even look at the state that my nervous system was in. So the nervous system is in panic mode or just in like fight or flight. And I try to slow, I take it from that to immediately, okay, now I'm slow and still. And my nervous system doesn't think that's safe. And so it's gonna go even more. And so I've learned to maybe do like shaking, like you said, first before I sit down. So if I sit down to do meditation, I'm like, oh, that's not working, rather than shaming myself or being like, I'm just not good at it. I learned

Nervous System First Then Mindset

Dawne Schoep 1:05:11

to get up and go for a walk or do some shaking or some voo breaths, which we can get to like there's a whole bunch of different things you can do to expel that big like fight or flight energy to bring your nervous system to a place where it is safe to slow down even more. That's such an important piece.

Osha Rose 1:05:34

Do you what is the importance of understanding our nervous system in the work that that you do with your clients?

Dawne Schoep 1:05:42

It is it's it's everything. I'll say everything so b. You know, in the beginning of our session, we got out of our mind and into our body. Because our mind is kind of in charge all the time until we look at our nervous system. Like our nervous system. Is like numb. If we are calm, if we are triggered, if we are just kind of in a chronic, elevated state of nervous system, that's actually the first thing in the at the driver's seat. Um, we can't even think if we're triggered. Um and I think one of the biggest learnings for me was how in our nervous system reacts independently. It doesn't check in with our brain first, check in with our body first. It gets a signal and it gets us into like keep yourself safe at all costs mode. So you can't talk yourself into calming down. Um, thankfully, our body does work with the nervous system, and we can like walking, running. For me, taking a really hot bath with Epsom salts helps me work some of that energy out too. And that's a still way to do it, but um our nervous system is really important to understand.

Osha Rose 1:07:02

And I'm laughing because, and I wrote this in the book Um Yoga for Relaxation, and there's um, I think the first and second ever Super Bloom episodes talk about this too. Those those triggers, those activators you were saying, and I was laughing because it's it doesn't even communicate with the mind. It's like we go on this autopilot when we when our systems detect danger, and we go into this sympathetic side of the nervous system, which sounds like it's a good thing, but it's and it's not a bad thing, but it's it's on, it's alert, it's shutting down all the other systems so that we can run. And I in that episode, I talk about like my when my daughter was young and she would like a year old trying to explore everything and not really being able to walk. Like I could like literally like a gazelle, like leap, like bounce that I didn't know I had in me to save her from hurting herself or falling. And this, like, it does, it takes over. So that's when I was laughing, just thinking of like these moments that I'm like, how did I do that? Am I am I superhuman? Like, how did that just happen? But it's because our our bodies accommodated that um nervous system's alert that I need you to be able to jump and run. So you're gonna breathe, you're gonna pant. Um, so I just said that. Yeah, working with that though, right?

Dawne Schoep 1:08:19

Understanding like understanding it and even honoring it, I think a lot of times we get this like stress is bad, stress is bad. You need to like avoid it, and that's kind of leads us down a different path. But it's actually in understanding our nervous system, the way that our brain works, the way that our body works, and the way that like they all exist in this being together and honoring the part and the role that they play in our safety and in our well-being. And then also learning how to shift, like how to give ourselves the tools to have the possibility and the choice to come out of our nervous system if it's not what would serve us best right now, or to come out of our head if it's not what's serving us best right now. Or even to come into our head or into.

Osha Rose 1:09:12

Yeah, it's like after that happens, or or you know, I share this in Head to the Heart, the course, Head to the Heart, where my daughter is really good at expressing her emotions, but if she gets angry and I I can literally see it bubble up, like she could flail. If I'm too close to her, I might get struck in the face. Um, because she's just it's moving through her. But then once it's over, like a minute later, I'm over here. Like my nervous system is like, okay, am I under attack? No, this is your child. Like, I'm just trying to combat this like desire to protect myself with like the rationality of what's happening. So I'm like breathing and maybe like shaking my body, and she'll just look at me and be like, Mom, are you okay? What's that? Like, I'm like, and then I do my best to, you know, help her understand while I'm still breathing through it. And it's just it's interesting to watch it, like to have this awareness of what's happening, but then also her reflection of what I look, I look like because I'm like, I'm just trying to like get out of fight or flight because there is no longer danger, you know, it's it's gone. How do I cue that to the body? Um, because I do think there's a cycle that we get stuck in. And then that can cause like our adrenal glands being maxed out. And and like I was saying, I drank coffee, but I I used to for the first time in a while, but I used to drink coffee every day. And I didn't notice until I stopped drinking it how high alert, like how much energy it was bringing into my body. Um, but when I'm really tired or I feel like I need the energy, like that can be like the thing I still think of. Like maybe I should just have a quick shot of espresso, but I don't drink coffee anymore and I don't like that it kind of gives me a panic attack now. What else can I do? So it's like getting creative in the moments where um the nervous system is turned on and realizing kind of like with the coffee or something else, like what would help me right now? Is it is this the healthiest, you know? And so I feel like that's a big part of what you must do with coaching too.

Dawne Schoep 1:11:21

And it's different for everybody, like in finding your own way, like, okay, I'm up, I'm up here. How do I bring myself down? Because there's again, like so many resources, so many ways to do it. It's literally in finding the way that works for you. One, learning to recognize maybe when you're there, and then your resource to take you out or to energize yourself when you're dragging.

Osha Rose 1:11:49

This has been an enlightening episode for me and session with you. I I think for me, the biggest takeaway is the importance of valuing how unique we each are and how intrinsically we are guided once we allow ourselves, you know, once we can calm the nervous system, create the space to really start asking and communicating um with our bodies. That to me is like the biggest takeaway. And I I just love this instinct my brain has for the answer that would be the blanket. Like I still want to ask you blanket questions, like, what's the best, you know, this for that? And what's and it's everybody is different, like every human is different. We are unique. And so that to me is this beautiful reminder that why? Like, why do we want to spend time connecting in with ourselves? Why do we want to ask ourselves questions in the morning? Why do we want to remind ourselves that we got this, you know, that we're we're like, and why do we why is empowerment important? Um, and it's so that we can connect in with that inner guidance system and we we can

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Osha Rose 1:13:03

work with people like yourself in a way that there isn't a quick answer, but there is, you know, like like you aren't gonna give me the answer, but it it's already in me. So how quick or slow it happens, it just depends on, you know, maybe how willing I am to listen.

Dawne Schoep 1:13:21

Yeah.

Osha Rose 1:13:22

Yeah.

Dawne Schoep 1:13:22

Already allowing like yourself, like when we can find the ways to allow ourselves.

Osha Rose 1:13:28

Yeah. Yeah. And value ourselves enough to listen, to hear that voice within me that I'm gonna start my day. Like, how am I going to run? And and everybody I think will react differently too. But for me, there's like this feeling, um, like a wave. Like I just I felt that emotion when we were talking about what my affirmation could be. And it's like, I do, I trust in divine timing. Um, oh, yes, this has just been such a nourishing conversation for me. And I just know in my heart that this is going to carry a ripple for people who um who want to work with you or just want to take that first step to just start listening, you know, to start asking. I think you gave some really good ways to just tune it in. People can follow along with this grounding exercise we did in the beginning for themselves. Um, but how can if people do want to connect and work with you? So you are located in North Carolina.

Dawne Schoep 1:14:22

I'm Darren in from North Carolina. If anyone's around here, I can do live sessions. But I like I said, I do mostly work virtually with exercise, with food, with coaching sessions. Um so I have a website you can reach out to me on. I can also number in my email that's a little bit more personal.

Osha Rose 1:14:44

Yeah, we'll share, we'll share the website, and then people can come on to your website and see a little bit more about what you do, and they can sign up um to connect with you. I see you do a free discovery call, so that could be just a wonderful place to start.

Dawne Schoep 1:14:59

Yeah, and I do work with individuals and then I run some group programs sometimes too. And working with a group is healing in its own way. I would love that.

Osha Rose 1:15:08

Yes. So I'm gonna, I would like to find more about that. And is there anything just kind of in closing that that you think could be really important to highlight or or share again um with the audience today?

Dawne Schoep 1:15:26

Yeah, I have two things in mind. One was

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I'm so glad that you said my big takeaway from today was, and then you started talking because that's how we end every session of everything. Did you have any aha moments today? And a lot of times it's when you hear something that you said yourself, but did you have any aha moments today or takeaway? What's the biggest one from today? That's how I like to close out a session because that's really powerful. You also mentioned feeling a big emotion well up in thinking about doing your affirmation in the morning, and you talked about that in the way we connect in and value ourselves. And one of the big things that it ends up being the most important, and in working with a coach or working with someone is noticing all the ways that external things, expectations, other people cause us to abandon ourselves, even we have this really good plan in place. Um and in coaching, you just keep you learn to keep reconnecting, and as you do that, you start feeling the way that you value yourself starts to grow and grow and grow. And the instances where you abandon yourself, come into light, and you start to do that less. And that's magic, that's from connecting with yourself and learning to do that in a daily and moment-by-moment way.

Osha Rose 1:17:01

That's beautiful. Thank you so much for being here, Don. And thank you to everyone. No, it's okay. I'm just doing a little wrap-up. So thank you to you, and thank you to everyone here listening. And if you love this episode, share it with a friend who you think could use that that reminder to listen to what's within. And don't forget to subscribe so you never forget another thing with Super Bloom. And I'm just so happy to have shared this time with you today, Dawn Scoop. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yay. Bye.