
Beyond the Deal
Beyond the Deal is podcast hosted by Michael Wagman. He has created a life of freedom and travel using passive income generated through real estate investing and raising capital. In this podcast Michael interviews guests who have been successful in the world of real estate investing or alternative investments, and they go beyond the deal to discuss the stories and practices that ultimately laid the groundwork to success.
Episodes
33 episodes
From Burnout to 8-Figure Real Estate SaaS: Trevor Mauch’s Journey with Carrot.com
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Trevor Mauch, founder and CEO of Carrot.com, the leading platform powering real estate investor websites across the U.S. and Canada. Trevor shares his raw journey of buildin...
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30:19

From Multifamily to Glamping: How Amy Cooper Scaled RV Parks Nationwide
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman reconnects with Amy Cooper, co-founder of GlampHER, who left the corporate property management world to build a thriving business in RV parks and glamping destinations. Amy shares how she ...
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24:14

Multifamily vs Development: What Investors Need to Know
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with his business partner, Mike Angelo, to break down the differences between multifamily operations and real estate development. From ground-up multifamily projects to retail re...
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22:26

The Numbers Behind Boutique Hotels (And Why They Beat Long-Term Rentals) with Tim Ensmann
What happens when you leave a high-paying tech job, move across the country, and live in a spider-filled hotel just to get your dream off the ground?In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael sits down with real estate invest...
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27:03

Serial Entrepreneur Carson Jones: From Broke Marketing Startup to Real Estate Success (And the Red Flags to Avoid)
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael Wagman sits down with entrepreneur and author Carson Jones to talk about his unconventional journey—from broke and pitching marketing services door-to-door, to running restaurants, investing in oil an...
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22:51

Real Estate Strategies That Actually Work: 6 Entrepreneurs Share Their Best Tips
In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman brings together insights from six real estate entrepreneurs who’ve mastered the art of buying, scaling, and managing real estate across different asset types.Yo...
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27:57

How We Got 50% of Our Deal Subscribed on Day One Under Contract
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael sits down with his former student turned deal partner, Jacobo Hernandez, to share the story behind their newest acquisition, a 59-unit motel in Eureka Springs, Arkansas that they’re converting into a ...
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32:52

We Bought a Dead Commercial Property. Here's What Happened Next.
In this special behind-the-scenes episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman is joined by his business partner Mike Angelo to break down one of their most unique projects to date: transforming a neglected warehouse in Casa Grande, Arizona ...
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21:47

Daily Habits That Keep Successful Entrepreneurs at Peak Performance
In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman brings together six powerful voices sharing the real habits that keep them sharp, steady, and successful.From sleep routines and mindset rituals to so...
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21:12

How These 5 Real Estate Entrepreneurs Got Started (Real Stories, Real Results)
In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, we bring you five powerful origin stories from real estate entrepreneurs who took very different paths, but all ended up building a business in real estate.From gut-wrenc...
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20:29

How Cyndee Harding Stepped Into Asset Management to Safeguard Investor Returns
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Cyndee Harding, a capital raiser who discovered her true calling in asset management. After helping raise over $5 million in her first year, Cyndee realized the real challen...
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28:59

How a Single Mom of Three Built Her Future Through Real Estate with Sylvia Khoury
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Sylvia Khoury, a single mother of three who turned to real estate to support her family—while caring for her terminally ill parents and navigating a demanding pharmacy caree...
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16:23

SEO, Self-Belief, and Scaling Up: A Deep Dive with Brian Dordevic
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Brian Dordevic, an immigrant from Serbia who went from earning $4/hour as a virtual assistant to leading a 20+ person SEO team in the U.S.Brian shares his ...
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28:19

How Tyler Harding Scaled a Multifamily Portfolio with His Family
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Tyler Harding, a multifamily operator who left retail management to build a thriving real estate portfolio alongside his entire family. From a spreadsheet plan to buy single...
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26:02

David Hrizak on Playing the Long Game in Business Acquisitions
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with David Hrizak—a serial operator and acquirer who’s built his career by mastering the fundamentals: great partnerships, operational excellence, and long-term thinking. David s...
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31:54

From Amazon Hustler to Boutique Hotel Mogul: Jacob Hernandez on Scaling with Purpose
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Jacobo Hernandez, the entrepreneur who unknowingly launched Michael’s coaching journey. From building a 7-figure Amazon business and weathering supplier sabotage, to scaling...
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30:18

From Engineer to Empire: How Sid Shamim Built a $500M Real Estate Business
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael Wagman speaks with Sid Shamim—an engineer-turned-entrepreneur who walked away from a high-paying oil and gas job to take control of his first underperforming apartment complex. That decision sparked a...
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28:32

The LP Who Built a Platform to Rate GPs: Pat Zingarella on Transparency in Real Estate
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Pat Zingarella, founder of InvestClearly, a platform that’s changing the way Limited Partners (LPs) evaluate General Partners (GPs) in real estate syndications.
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25:51

How Alice Chen Left Corporate Law to Lead a Real Estate Investment Fund
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Alice Chen, former corporate lawyer turned serial entrepreneur and private equity investor. Alice shares her remarkable journey from working in mergers and acquisitions law ...
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27:31

How Guy Salani Built, Scaled, and Exited Multiple Home Service Businesses
What if you could scale and exit multiple companies—without being the expert in the trade? In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Guy Salani, a serial entrepreneur and mentor who’s built and exited 4+ home improv...
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27:09

How Lauren Brychell Raised $55M and Now Helps Others Master Capital Raising
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Lauren Brychell, a capital raising expert and founder of Equity Elevated, who has personally raised over $55 million in retail capital, primarily in the self-storage space.<...
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27:21

How Kaaren Hall Empowers Investors to Build Wealth with Self-Directed IRAs
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman is joined by Kaaren Hall, founder and CEO of uDirect IRA Services and co-author of The BiggerPockets Guide to Self-Directed IRA Investing.With 15+ years in the industry, ...
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24:57

How Jay Bourgana Built and Sold a $350M Company Before Launching Acquisition Collective
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Jay Bourgana, a serial entrepreneur, investor, and founder of Acquisition Collective, who’s quietly built a business empire through strategic small business acquisitions and...
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31:59

How Brad Blazar Raised $2 Billion and Teaches Entrepreneurs to Find Investors
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman is joined by Brad Blazar, capital-raising expert and founder of Capital School, to explore the proven strategies behind raising over $2 billion in investor capital.Brad s...
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35:58

Why Glamping is the Next Big Investment Opportunity with Zander Kempf
In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Zander Kempf, a former military officer turned RV and glamping resort developer. Zander shares how he went from flipping houses to scaling a multi-million-dollar po...
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